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|  "Re(3):Saturn USB Controller's Revenge" , posted Mon 16 Jan 07:56:  
Interesting points both, including that there's a difference between the SFIV and SFxT Madcatz controllers. Speaking of differences, thanks for the reminder of the Sega Play version of the Saturn USB pad, which I'd forgotten about. I've generally read that its quality is inferior to the original Sega Logistics Service version, this thread included, but I imagine it's still better than the Chinese Retrolink knock-offs that infest the internet nowadays. (I don't know if you can have a controller "harem," but if you can, this guy has one, and seems to corroborate the above.)
Or maybe I'm being overly cautious on the cross pad on the new Hori. I never found the SFC pad easy to use for fighters, but maybe this is better?
人間はいつも私を驚かせてくれる。不思議なものだな、人間という存在は．．．
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| | "Re(4):Saturn USB Controller's Revenge" , posted Mon 16 Jan 14:41
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Interesting points both, including that there's a difference between the SFIV and SFxT Madcatz controllers. Speaking of differences, thanks for the reminder of the Sega Play version of the Saturn USB pad, which I'd forgotten about. I've generally read that its quality is inferior to the original Sega Logistics Service version, this thread included, but I imagine it's still better than the Chinese Retrolink knock-offs that infest the internet nowadays. (I don't know if you can have a controller "harem," but if you can, this guy has one, and seems to corroborate the above.)
Or maybe I'm being overly cautious on the cross pad on the new Hori. I never found the SFC pad easy to use for fighters, but maybe this is better?
You are driving me insane, man!
I have the old, weird/awesome-shadows model, but get the Hori.
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| "Re(1):Saturn USB Controller's Revenge" , posted Wed 18 Jan 03:36
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There sure are a lot of fighting games out these days! My horrifying Halloween tale of mid-match controller death was truuuue, and I need your help! Assuming you didn't sell your Toxico's soul for the genuine Sega-made USB Saturn pad that went out of print long ago, these are the options I see:
Madcatz SFIV Fightpad : I've used these before but still don't know if I can overcome the aesthetic crimes of SFIV's art.
Madcatz SFV Fightpad Pro: These are blessedly free of SFIV stuff, but I hear the dpad is surprisingly terrible?
Udon PS2 pad: While it seems insane to buy another one of these and to keep using a PS2>USB converter, it served me well until the...incident.
Hori Fighting Commander (2016): This new edition ditched the misshapen design and added a PC switch, but I'm still uneasy about a cross pad as opposed to an 8-way, even though I think Mosquiton or Freeter told me in the other thread to open up my mind.
Decades later, I still suck at joysticks. 
The Udon PS2 pad was the only thing closest to a good fighting pad available since at the time, the DC was dead. It was also the time when most of us had to use a Playstation 2 for fighting games. I think I remember one of the buttons falling or not pressable anymore.
I also had the SFIV pad for the X360 and it was great for my fightng games. However, it was so annoying that the mini piece (adapter?) at the end of the cord connecting to the usb always had a tendency of falling off very easily. So many matches I lost thanks to that piece!
The Hori crosspadd might be as good as the DC controller. I believe that was the only original console controller that worked well with fighting games. At least during my time.
Maou, as much as I wanted to buy and own Arcade Sticks, I was never good with one. I did have one but we were told to clamp it down on a table. We did not do that as it would scratch or dent the Arcade Stick.
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| "Re(7):Hori's Revenge" , posted Wed 18 Jan 09:53:
Thanks, Cafe! In view of the perils of perishing Madcatz pads and the additional Amazon Japan reference, I've trusted Mosquiton as usual and am about to try the new Hori, certain that reprisals will be swift if this advice fails me...I mean, that it will be wonderful! I will report.
Maybe we can start a general controller thread one day. I'd never thought of the DC controller as one of the greats for fighters, though it's a perfect match for Soul Calibur.
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Wow even this place is out of stock.
They may be out, but this is a great resource all the same, Professor! I love that their mission statement involves bringing love, justice, and human prosperity!
人間はいつも私を驚かせてくれる。不思議なものだな、人間という存在は．．．
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| "Re(8):Hori's Revenge" , posted Tue 24 Jan 10:26
THRILLING UPDATES
I've been breaking in the 2016 version of the Hori Fighting Commander, pleasantly devoid of the ghastly malformed design of the previous edition and the Madcatz product. Now I'm passing my results to YOU, the taxpayer:
I have never seen a cross pad that worked this well! Even my sorry ass can pull of 720s, and that's a good enough test for me! I'm impressed by how much resistance/spring-back the d-pad has, almost like a joystick. This will work just fine until Sega gets over their reluctace to making unlimited money on a Saturn pad reissue.
Not that they matter that much, but the shoulder buttons feel crappy and flimsy. Why?
Like other pads which are not the Udon pad, the face buttons unhelpfully include R1 and R2 rather than R1 and L1, leaving you with unhelpful duplicate R1 and R2 buttons on the right shoulder that you will never ever use, rather than being able to rebind them as a different button/function (grab, etc.) along with the left shoulder buttons. Too bad!
In conclusion, I look forward to continuing to be a B- player of fighting games with you all online, courtesy of this helpful advice. Thanks, Cafe!
人間はいつも私を驚かせてくれる。不思議なものだな、人間という存在は．．．
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| "Re(4):Saturn pad festival" , posted Sat 13 Apr 12:21:
I'm looking forward to neoorochiaku's Retrobit report! They had better not suck!
Meanwhile, to ensure that MMCafe remains the source of record for 32-bit AND 16-bit controller designs in USB, I'm reporting that 8bitdo's SF30 take on a SFC controller is good so far. Maybe my Buffalo SFC controller was just a dud, but this 8bitdo actually has a working d-pad. As some reviews noted, the d-pad and buttons have a bit more of an arcade-like "punch" or "clicking" feeling than the original. I like the flat, thin cord (the style used for some phone jacks), which is easier to fold. Some UK review told me somewhere these controllers were physically smaller, but I don't know what the hell they were talking about.
It's kind of dumb that this particular one only works wirelessly with the SFC mini, with PCs on USB cords, but I see there's a different model that gets to PCs by bluetooth with varying degrees of success. It's sloppy that the connection pairing LED has to turn off by going to sleep rather than you doing it, but if you hide it in the closet after playing Fuurai No Shiren till 3am like any normal person, the light won't bother you as you attempt to sleep.
人間はいつも私を驚かせてくれる。不思議なものだな、人間という存在は．．．
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| "Re(5):Saturn pad festival" , posted Tue 16 Apr 09:13
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I'm looking forward to neoorochiaku's Retrobit report! They had better not suck!
Meanwhile, to ensure that MMCafe remains the source of record for 32-bit AND 16-bit controller designs in USB, I'm reporting that 8bitdo's SF30 take on a SFC controller is good so far. Maybe my Buffalo SFC controller was just a dud, but this 8bitdo actually has a working d-pad. As some reviews noted, the d-pad and buttons have a bit more of an arcade-like "punch" or "clicking" feeling than the original. I like the flat, thin cord (the style used for some phone jacks), which is easier to fold. Some UK review told me somewhere these controllers were physically smaller, but I don't know what the hell they were talking about.
It's kind of dumb that this particular one only works wirelessly with the SFC mini, with PCs on USB cords, but I see there's a different model that gets to PCs by bluetooth with varying degrees of success. It's sloppy that the connection pairing LED has to turn off by going to sleep rather than you doing it, but if you hide it in the closet after playing Fuurai No Shiren till 3am like any normal person, the light won't bother you as you attempt to sleep.
Got an update from Castlemania that they should be receiving them later this week and shipping them out by Saturday. Will see.
I can tell you that if I can use the controller on the Ps4, there are some games to truly test the pad. Like with KOF98, I knew there was a huge difference when using the Hori FC pad compared to my kinder years in the 90s. That's one game and others, I can compare with the the Saturn controller to see if it's the same smoothness like before.
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Rare Customer   | "Re(8):Saturn pad festival" , posted Tue 24 Dec 04:40:
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Sweet! Next, you must join Orochiaku in reporting on how it goes. I still like my 8bitdo SFC controller pretty well, meanwhile.
ehi! I thought about this thread the other day. Sadly for reasons I haven't had the serenity to play fighting games for a long time, but I have been captivated by the recent SFV update. I was looking forward to post my impressions of the pad at long last, but the reality is that it broke after 3 days of SFV training mode, maybe 5 hours. The directional pad has a little plastic cross inside and one wing broke, and I mean that doesn't really look solid enough for fighters anyway.
I dunno, I do have scary strangler hands but really? Alternatively, Retro-Bit saved me the heartache of another brief flirt with SFV online, in which case many thanks good sirs.
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