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"Random Thread, with low quality eroge designs" , posted Wed 8 Jun 08:51:post reply

With close to 200 replies, I figured that it was about time to start over.

Magical Drop V... Where the hell is IV? And where's RedFalcon's wrath?

Harmony of Despair might grace the Ps3. In this place Random means Castlevania and Castlevania means Pro Recycle Wakamoto, so it's all good.

Street Fighter III 3rd Online it also includes cover, I can wonder who worked on it.

Aqua Plaza op + article.

Tekken x SF (or was it the other way around?) main site updated Trailer has a new character at the end, judging by the gloves it seems to be Asuka, but there it was no country accent to permanently scar my ears, so it's hard to tell if it was really her.







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"Re(1):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Wed 8 Jun 12:03post reply

Speaking of unappealing eroge, site & trailer for Vanillaware's new game, DRAGON'S CROWN for both VITA & PS3 is up. Check out that hot Amazon chick.

I'm happy to see that finally, FINALLY, I can see those beautiful sprites in HD. The game looks liks an update to the old D&D brawler which I think George Kamitani did work on.





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"Re(2):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Wed 8 Jun 13:23:post reply

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I'm happy to see that finally, FINALLY, I can see those beautiful sprites in HD. The game looks liks an update to the old D&D brawler which I think George Kamitani did work on.


No kidding. This might be the game that sells me on the PSVita. This game looks absolutely amazing. It makes me smile to realize that games that look this good are still being made in the world. That is looks a lot like Capcom's AD&D games in style and gameplay is just icing on the cake.

EDIT: HUH? So the name isn't just a coincidence.

You know, as ridiculous as the Sorceress' huge boobs are, the character designs in general are growing on me. I'll say one thing for Kamitani, he really sticks with his aesthetic.





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"Re(3):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Wed 8 Jun 14:14post reply

I don't even know what to make of those body proportions. The Archer's head seems really small, the Sorceress's boobs are.... floppy, though I can say that nothing in that trailer is quite as arresting as the portrait image of the Amazon.

It still looks pretty great.

But there's one thing about it which I notice that I never felt when playing Capcom's wonderful D&D games: as lovely as the BGs and characters are in this footage, the characters look like cutouts running about. When playing Capcom's beat-em-ups, I never got the feeling that the characters were cutouts flitting about over some BG layer; I always felt that they lived inside that environment, and were just as full and dimensional in there as they could be. Maybe it's just my jaded goggles.





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"Re(3):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Wed 8 Jun 14:22post reply

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It makes me smile to realize that games that look this good are still being made in the world.
I was pretty mesmerized by the whole trailer...I didn't have the cutout problem Spoon had, and ended up feeling more like I was watching an actualization of the way we'd always dreamed 2D action brawlers looked growing up, the way that they looked in our minds when we weren't playing, and the way we layered them with our own imaginations to make them seem prettier somehow.

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You know, as ridiculous as the Sorceress' huge boobs are
to add to the fanastic situation, I just had a dream where Undead Fred reappeared and draw wonderful pictures for us again. I like their gutsiness with the beefy Amazon, too. Brave enough for all aesthetics, I guess.





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"Re(2):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Wed 8 Jun 14:56post reply

RANDOM RECOMMENDATION:

I recently bought a Qanba Q4 joystick. It uses Sanwa parts and works on both PS3 and 360. If you want a joystick, I think you want this one. It costs the same as a Madkatz TE and is every bit as good.

Speaking of joysticks...

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I'll take it! I never had the fortune of playing the previous games on a joystick, and after a point, I felt like my physical dexterity could not keep up with what the game demanded.

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I'm happy to see that finally, FINALLY, I can see those beautiful sprites in HD.



YES. Having another Vanillaware game announced before the next one even comes out makes for a happy world.

Kamitani can squeeze the most massive boobs into the most skimpy outfits and somehow it doesn't strike me as trashy, just AWESOME. Maybe it's because most of his female characters are actually cool.





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"Re(4):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Wed 8 Jun 16:51:post reply

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It makes me smile to realize that games that look this good are still being made in the world. I was pretty mesmerized by the whole trailer...I didn't have the cutout problem Spoon had, and ended up feeling more like I was watching an actualization of the way we'd always dreamed 2D action brawlers looked growing up, the way that they looked in our minds when we weren't playing, and the way we layered them with our own imaginations to make them seem prettier somehow.



What a beautiful description!

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Kamitani can squeeze the most massive boobs into the most skimpy outfits and somehow it doesn't strike me as trashy, just AWESOME. Maybe it's because most of his female characters are actually cool.


Yup! The coolness makes a huge difference! Those women look STRONG.

In fact, a friend o' mine just told me that his coworker (who's a female! :O) was looking over his shoulder and asked him to send her the art for Dragon's Crown cos it "looks cute."






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"Re(5):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Wed 8 Jun 18:57post reply

Have some ridiculously high rez artwork from Dragon's Crown!






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"Re(6):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Wed 8 Jun 22:17post reply

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Have some ridiculously high rez artwork from Dragon's Crown!


Do you have Muramasa artworks. I second what spoon said. It looks beautiful anyway.





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"Re(7):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Thu 9 Jun 02:59post reply

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Have some ridiculously high rez artwork from Dragon's Crown!

Do you have Muramasa artworks. I second what spoon said. It looks beautiful anyway.


Muramasa stuff is floating around out there-- like this. Or better yet here, a favorite of mine.

Yes, I think Kamitani's art somehow manages to avoid being lurid in many ways for some reason, and I agree, the character design has something to do with it. His work just has so much vigor!

His choice to avoid 'standard' poses for the characters in the art is a wonderful one! The amazon design first made me do a double take, but it continues to grow on me. And the sorcerer's animation! Incredible!

Spoon, I see what you mean about them looking a bit cut-out, but I'm honestly at a loss to think of how they would have overcome it. Maybe it will look better in a more finished version?

Anyway, I'm ecstatic that this particular game and its art have received as much comment as they have.





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"Re(1):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Thu 9 Jun 03:04post reply

I do hope that Dragon's Crown plays as well as it looks.

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Tekken x SF (or was it the other way around?) main site updated Trailer has a new character at the end, judging by the gloves it seems to be Asuka, but there it was no country accent to permanently scar my ears, so it's hard to tell if it was really her.


Lili drops by at the 0:05 mark as well. Here's to hoping Sakura and Karin make it in so we can have a four way schoolgirl brawl to end them all.

The SFxT info that has come out of E3 has really sold me on the game. Before the title seemed like an interesting curiosity but now that I see what they are going for with the game engine it looks like a lot of fun. Ridiculous, but fun.





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"Re(8):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Thu 9 Jun 03:23:post reply

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Spoon, I see what you mean about them looking a bit cut-out, but I'm honestly at a loss to think of how they would have overcome it. Maybe it will look better in a more finished version?



The increased frame rate and resolution heighten the sense of rotation and sliding. Lowering the frame rate and adding more motion blurs would make the characters feel more placed.

High frame rates are not always better. In real life a fast object will naturally blur. This doesn't occur when frames are projected at you via a monitor. Fast movements with no motion blur feel very unnatural.






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"Re(2):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Thu 9 Jun 03:53post reply

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I do hope that Dragon's Crown plays as well as it looks.



It's all about the bouncer level hustler dwarf.

Ashura's Wrath new trailer?

My slaves are always praising Meruru no Atelier's looks.
I almost see why.

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"Re(3):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Thu 9 Jun 04:17post reply

quote:

Ashura's Wrath new trailer?





I was going to comment about how charming and beautiful (albeit anatomically compromised) this Dragon's Crown looks, and what a pleasant surprise was to have such a classic-styled brawler popping up out of nowhere. But, you know, then...

... A WILD ASHURA APPEARS!!!

Oh gosh, this game sure has something that drives me absolutely crazy. When we finally get to see some actual gameplay I might have to watch the trailers (let alone playing the game!) with a paramedic by my side.





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"Re(4):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Thu 9 Jun 04:35post reply

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... A WILD ASHURA APPEARS!!!

Oh gosh, this game sure has something that drives me absolutely crazy. When we finally get to see some actual gameplay I might have to watch the trailers (let alone playing the game!) with a paramedic by my side.


It looks fairly similar to the boss portions in CyberConnect's last Naruto Shippuden game. Er...I forgot the name. Even if you aren't a Naruto fan, the game is definitely worth checking out. I feel like they took a lot of their ideas from that and ran with them in Ashura.

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His choice to avoid 'standard' poses for the characters in the art is a wonderful one! The amazon design first made me do a double take, but it continues to grow on me. And the sorcerer's animation! Incredible!

This is one reason why I like Nona and Ishiwatari so much as illustrators. Nona's earlier KOF work was a little on the rough side, but his later stuff showed a side of the characters that players hadn't seen before. That was a breath of fresh air after years and years of relatively bland (if well-rendered) Shinkiro art.

And with Ishiwatari...his illustrations just got crazier and crazier with each GGX addon, but they were wildly interesting every time. He throws out perspective and proportion and just...rocks it. He might not have the technical skill of some of Capcom's best, but I really felt his passion and the energy of his characters in his art.





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"Re(5):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Thu 9 Jun 05:32post reply

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This is one reason why I like Nona and Ishiwatari so much as illustrators. Nona's earlier KOF work was a little on the rough side, but his later stuff showed a side of the characters that players hadn't seen before. That was a breath of fresh air after years and years of relatively bland (if well-rendered) Shinkiro art.

And with Ishiwatari...his illustrations just got crazier and crazier with each GGX addon, but they were wildly interesting every time. He throws out perspective and proportion and just...rocks it. He might not have the technical skill of some of Capcom's best, but I really felt his passion and the energy of his characters in his art.


Whaaa! Two of my favorites! Especially Nona, who I still think is underappreciated. I think the word you used-- energy-- is exactly what I see in both of their work, and in Kamitani's as well.





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"Re(4):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Thu 9 Jun 08:08:post reply

quote:

Ashura's Wrath new trailer?




I was going to comment about how charming and beautiful (albeit anatomically compromised) this Dragon's Crown looks, and what a pleasant surprise was to have such a classic-styled brawler popping up out of nowhere. But, you know, then...

... A WILD ASHURA APPEARS!!!

Oh gosh, this game sure has something that drives me absolutely crazy. When we finally get to see some actual gameplay I might have to watch the trailers (let alone playing the game!) with a paramedic by my side.



Be careful what you wish for...


Edit on Dragon's Crown:

WOW!! No wonder that Kamitani declares himself a "King of Dragons" fan: everything from the main characters' weapons and attack modes to the last design shown (specially the Gildiss-like dragon in his riches-laden throne room) is a blatant, much needed tribute to this CPS-1 classic. Undoubtedly, the first PSVita game worth looking forward to...





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"Re(2):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Thu 9 Jun 09:36post reply

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Lili drops by at the 0:05 mark as well. Here's to hoping Sakura and Karin make it in so we can have a four way schoolgirl brawl to end them all.



Amen.

Good catch, though! Now I can actually play the game. With the current cast, I would pick Abel, then get stuck and have to turn it off.





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"Re(4):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Fri 10 Jun 00:24post reply

quote:

Ashura's Wrath new trailer?

I was going to comment about how charming and beautiful (albeit anatomically compromised) this Dragon's Crown looks, and what a pleasant surprise was to have such a classic-styled brawler popping up out of nowhere. But, you know, then...

... A WILD ASHURA APPEARS!!!

Oh gosh, this game sure has something that drives me absolutely crazy. When we finally get to see some actual gameplay I might have to watch the trailers (let alone playing the game!) with a paramedic by my side.


In all my gushing over Dragon's Crown I totally forgot to comment on Ashura's Wrath! I have to say I really enjoy the character design in this-- it's got a certain weirdness to it that I really like. And... this trailer is a little less QTE-heavy than the last one that we saw, which means I may actually play it!





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"Re(5):Random Thread, with low quality eroge d" , posted Fri 10 Jun 01:24post reply

Ashura's Wrath continues to look lovely in a screaming, head smashing sort of way.
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Edit on Dragon's Crown:

WOW!! No wonder that Kamitani declares himself a "King of Dragons" fan: everything from the main characters' weapons and attack modes to the last design shown (specially the Gildiss-like dragon in his riches-laden throne room) is a blatant, much needed tribute to this CPS-1 classic. Undoubtedly, the first PSVita game worth looking forward to...


Good call! Even more so than the old D&D games, Dragon's Crown really is a callback to King of Dragons.

In keeping with that everything old is new again idea you introduced, I now realize that Dragon's Dogma is the next-gen remake of Magic Sword.





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"Random Thread, with old school eroge" , posted Thu 16 Jun 14:36post reply

Dancing Eyes is back

Just browsing 4gamer and saw that and the nostalgia trip was alarming. I remember playing this game over 10 years ago when I was visiting family in the Philippines.

If you aren't familiar with the game perhaps this vid may be helpful

May want to watch out if at work, school





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"Re(1):Random Thread, with old school eroge" , posted Thu 16 Jun 16:20:post reply

What is this I don't even...Edit: Happened to be a couple of years old. But I didn't know such a thing existsed.

Why is it fan-made games sometimes end up better than the original source they took inspiration from? I mean, this is definitely true with the Touhou-based doujin games.





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"Re(1):Random Thread, with old school eroge" , posted Fri 17 Jun 05:04post reply

quote:
Dancing Eyes is back

Just browsing 4gamer and saw that and the nostalgia trip was alarming. I remember playing this game over 10 years ago when I was visiting family in the Philippines.

If you aren't familiar with the game perhaps this vid may be helpful

May want to watch out if at work, school



Ho ho, incredible! The trailer is hilarious, even if the game itself is eye-rollingly goofy.

I've only played Dancing Eyes itself in MAME-- it's not the kind of thing that would ever have been featured in arcades in the US.

Now while Namco is at it they can update Pang.





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"Re(2):Random Thread, with old school eroge" , posted Mon 20 Jun 07:39post reply

Have we got a mention of Wayforward's current project yet?

http://www.bloodraynebetrayal.com/media.htm

It actually looks quite impressive!

If this game does well, what are the odds that we get another Uwe Boll movie of it? I had never expected anybody to want to revive this license!





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"Re(3):Random Thread, with old school eroge" , posted Tue 21 Jun 12:15post reply

It's hilarious because the level design and bosses are ripped wholesale from the Castlevania DS games, but the combat locks you on the screen like Shank. I like the style and blood but I wish the animation was a bit less slidey (damn that's not a word).





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"Re(3):Random Thread, with old school eroge" , posted Tue 21 Jun 12:18post reply

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Have we got a mention of Wayforward's current project yet?

http://www.bloodraynebetrayal.com/media.htm

It actually looks quite impressive!

If this game does well, what are the odds that we get another Uwe Boll movie of it? I had never expected anybody to want to revive this license!


I was thinking it looked pretty good! Not a big fan of the franchise myself though. Ah well.

Also, interesting interview with details about that other game everyone is talking about. PS3 / PSVita connectivity!





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"Re(4):Random Thread, with old school pixels" , posted Tue 21 Jun 23:18post reply

Where is everybody? Maybe something like this will summon everyone?





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"Re(4):Random Thread, with old school eroge" , posted Tue 21 Jun 23:40post reply

Capcom calendar 2011





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"Re(5):Random Thread, with old school eroge" , posted Wed 22 Jun 02:57post reply

quote:
Capcom calendar 2011



March/April is Bengus, correct? Morrigan keeps things warm in the winter. Can any of you fine gentlemen tell me who the blue skinned, leaf haired lady is in the Nishimura piece?





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"Re(6):Random Thread, with old school eroge" , posted Wed 22 Jun 06:06post reply

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Can any of you fine gentlemen tell me who the blue skinned, leaf haired lady is in the Nishimura piece?


I wish I could. I can't for the life of me place her.

Man though, I've really enjoyed that Nishimura piece-- but then she is one of my favorite Capcom artists. I'm going to have to pick this up at some point.





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"Re(6):Random Thread, with old school eroge" , posted Wed 22 Jun 06:25post reply

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Can any of you fine gentlemen tell me who the blue skinned, leaf haired lady is in the Nishimura piece?



It's Alexia from Biohazard: Code Veronica.

For the record, that's the cover to the 2011 calendar (which I own) and pictures from the 2012 calendars (male and female side).

The 2011 calendar is totally worth it, even if the year is half over. It has a great Nishimura Monster Hunter picture as well as a Chun Li by Akiman and a super cute Darkstalkers by the Katanagatari (?) artist. I don't know a few of the artists off the top of my head...there's a crappy Megaman one, a mediocre Gyakuten Saiban one and a sexy Basara one.





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"Re(7):Random Thread, with old school eroge" , posted Wed 22 Jun 07:46post reply

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a super cute Darkstalkers by the Katanagatari (?) artist



My interest is piqued. Is it the entire cast, or just Morrigan?





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"Re(8):Random Thread, with old school eroge" , posted Wed 22 Jun 08:49post reply

quote:

My interest is piqued. Is it the entire cast, or just Morrigan?



Morrigan, Lillith, Bulleta, Felicia, Lei-Lei and Q-Bee. It's SUPER ADORABLE. Also, shiny. Probably my favorite in the calendar.

Not too pleased about the super asstastic Hyung Tae Kim Holiday in the new calendar. Sexy girls are fine, but his proportions have got to go.





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"Half-Minute Hero: Super Mega Neo Climax" , posted Sun 26 Jun 13:38:post reply

Half-Minute Hero is one of my favourite games of recent times. However, I really don't feel all that enthused about Super Mega Neo Climax. Maybe it's because I played it enough to get my fill of it, and even though this new version boasts a bunch of additional content, I already know the story inside out and I don't feel particularly compelled to play through all those missions I've played through before.

On the other hand, I'm going to be buying EDF Insect Armageddon the moment it comes out, in a routine display of hypocrisy and irrationality.


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"Re(1):Half-Minute Hero: Super Mega Neo Climax" , posted Mon 27 Jun 03:03post reply

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Half-Minute Hero is one of my favourite games of recent times. However, I really don't feel all that enthused about Super Mega Neo Climax. Maybe it's because I played it enough to get my fill of it, and even though this new version boasts a bunch of additional content, I already know the story inside out and I don't feel particularly compelled to play through all those missions I've played through before.


So this Xbl version is just a dressed up PSP version? I did recognize some of the maps in the trailer. If that is the case it's going to take more than a Wind Waker-esque redesign to get me excited again.





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"Re(2):Half-Minute Hero: Super Mega Neo Climax" , posted Mon 27 Jun 05:53post reply

I downloaded the demo of Phantom Breaker on the Japanese Bazar

I really don't understand the game, and doesn't look that good to be honest





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"Random thread, now with insert credit" , posted Mon 27 Jun 12:37:post reply

OH SNAP


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"Re(1):A HUGE SOUNDTRACK IS APPROACHING" , posted Mon 27 Jun 12:47post reply

I thought this might be of interest around these parts.





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"Re(2):A HUGE SOUNDTRACK IS APPROACHING" , posted Mon 27 Jun 14:09post reply

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"Re(2):A HUGE SOUNDTRACK IS APPROACHING" , posted Mon 27 Jun 16:23post reply

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"Re(3):A HUGE SOUNDTRACK IS APPROACHING" , posted Tue 28 Jun 01:13post reply

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"Re(3):A HUGE SOUNDTRACK IS APPROACHING" , posted Tue 28 Jun 01:49post reply

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Yes, like this.





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"Re(1):Random thread, now with insert credit" , posted Tue 28 Jun 03:15post reply

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Good to see IC back up and running.

The new method of reader interaction is an interesting choice. How well does having a comment section on each story in lieu of a dedicated forum go towards creating a sense of community? Unless there is a very large and/or vocal readership there would probably be very little in the way of interesting conversation generated from the postings. Then again, it must be much easier to monitor and keep the discussion on topic. With the MMCafe board I can let my conversation wander to the point that I can post nonsense such as analyses of both the opening to a Female Prisoner Scorpion movie and M.Bison's Ode to Joy but that may not be for the best.





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"Re(2):Random thread, now with insert credit" , posted Tue 28 Jun 04:19post reply

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OH SNAP
Good to see IC back up and running.

The new method of reader interaction is an interesting choice. How well does having a comment section on each story in lieu of a dedicated forum go towards creating a sense of community? Unless there is a very large and/or vocal readership there would probably be very little in the way of interesting conversation generated from the postings. Then again, it must be much easier to monitor and keep the discussion on topic. With the MMCafe board I can let my conversation wander to the point that I can post nonsense such as analyses of both the opening to a Female Prisoner Scorpion movie and M.Bison's Ode to Joy but that may not be for the best.


I personally think the lack of a forum will make me enjoy the new IC more than I ever did the old one.

It's often the wanderings and asides that make me smile while reading here at the MMC-- that and everyone's willingness to enjoy such wanderings and asides, and of course talk about actual, you know, GAMES as a distant third. You could have done the same one the old IC for about 40 seconds before being shouted down by a dozen people.





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"Re(2):Random thread, now with insert credit" , posted Tue 28 Jun 08:06post reply

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How well does having a comment section on each story in lieu of a dedicated forum go towards creating a sense of community? Unless there is a very large and/or vocal readership there would probably be very little in the way of interesting conversation generated from the postings.


Being there for the death of the original IC forums, they quite possibly don't *want* a sense of community to form. Forums tends to develop their own personalities, and they may not be what the owners of the site desire.

That is what happened with the original Insert Credit forums, which became opinionated, argumentative, and an entity unto itself.

But the death knell was when forum posters began to disagree with friends of the IC staff. Brandon outright said he wanted a site that was for him and his friends, and friendly to developers, and didn't want arguments that would discourage such people. In the final days, forum posters were told that they weren't allowed to disagree with select people, even if it was actual fact (and not just opinion) that those select people were wrong about something. And such a situation immediately happened. One of the select people was bullishly obstinate over something that he was wrong about (and everyone on the board knew he was wrong and tried to explain why), and then the board was shut down.





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"Re(3):Random thread, now with insert credit" , posted Tue 28 Jun 22:49post reply

True, just because you create a place for people to interact doesn't mean you're going to get the audience you were hoping for. I knew that IC had gone through its share of troubles but I didn't know that the board had burned out in a flame of cliquishness, self-importance, and scan lines. That's too bad. Remember kids, discussion about video games should be no fun whatsoever!





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"Re(4):Random thread, now with insert credit" , posted Wed 29 Jun 01:15:post reply

Insert Credit is back! That's great news!!

I didn't know there were forum problems. I can understand it though. It's hard to try and moderate things.
Sometimes, it's better not to moderate at all, but that can also make things go haywire as well.


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"Re(5):Random thread, now with insert credit" , posted Wed 29 Jun 01:49post reply

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Insert Credit is back! That's great news!!

I didn't know there were forum problems. I can understand it though. It's hard to try and moderate things.
Sometimes, it's better not to moderate at all, but that can also make things go haywire as well.


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"Re(6):Random thread, now with insert credit" , posted Wed 29 Jun 02:01post reply

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Insert Credit is back! That's great news!!

I didn't know there were forum problems. I can understand it though. It's hard to try and moderate things.
Sometimes, it's better not to moderate at all, but that can also make things go haywire as well.


Randomness saves the day!


Yes, it makes you realize what a strangely stable ecosystem we have here at the cafe. I can't remember a quarrel here, at least not lately.
quote:

The new manifesto/aplogy page is weirdly moving.


Agreed-- and it helped me to realize just how significant IC was and is. It's a good read.

Eh, It just occurred to me that I so often focus on the bad of IC when there is quite a bit of good there as well. I heard about a lot of games there that I might not have known about otherwise, and it helped to draw me back in to playing games at a point where I could have (unthinkably, now) drifted away from them again.

So thanks IC, I guess! Welcome back to life!





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"Re(6):Random thread, now with insert credit" , posted Wed 29 Jun 02:38post reply

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Insert Credit is back! That's great news!!

I didn't know there were forum problems. I can understand it though. It's hard to try and moderate things.
Sometimes, it's better not to moderate at all, but that can also make things go haywire as well.


Randomness saves the day!


The new manifesto/aplogy page is weirdly moving.



There is a prevalent flavor of self-vilification.





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"Re(7):Random thread, now with insert credit" , posted Wed 29 Jun 07:01post reply

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Yes, it makes you realize what a strangely stable ecosystem we have here at the cafe. I can't remember a quarrel here, at least not lately.


Here, there isn't a divide between the main site and the forum that allows the two to grow in opposing directions. There is really just the forum, and any site owner or policy setters are active posters. The Cafe is also a smaller community, and fairly laid back with no "my way or the highway" personalities.





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"Re(8):Random thread, now with insert credit" , posted Wed 29 Jun 11:07post reply

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The Cafe is also a smaller community, and fairly laid back with no "my way or the highway" personalities.
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"Kono Random thread, mamoritai." , posted Wed 29 Jun 18:35post reply

この笑顔、守りたい。

Quick question: does anyone remember which manga, anime, book or movie was the first to feature the sentence above?

I know it became a common quote and even a meme recently, but I can't figure out or remember where and when it appeared first. I found an old J-pop song called 君の笑顔を守りたい but it's not exactly the same and the sentence became common rather recently. Could it be coming from a recent popular anime such as Steins;Gate or Madoka? Thanks for the help.

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"Re(1):Kono Random thread, mamoritai." , posted Thu 30 Jun 02:53post reply

quote:

Quick question: does anyone remember which manga, anime, book or movie was the first to feature the sentence above?



I can't be 100% sure, but I think that I heard something similar on Tiger Mask or something; I could bet that it was a Christmas chapters (I think that's the point where they were the closest to lose the orphanage)(and I remember that being near the end).... But I can tell for sure, no subs and me not being able to understand it that nicely back then.

quote:
Could it be coming from a recent popular anime such as Steins;Gate or Madoka? Thanks for the help.



Considering it's current impact, most likely it "resurfaced" on popular media and probably more than once. I think that a guy from Index uses the line, but I haven't seen him being memed to hell and back.

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(Is there a Japanese equivalent of knowyourmeme.com?)



I hope there isn't an equivalent, as that would mean that it would contain pretty lackluster info something that does a better job would be nice, but I have never stumbled on it.







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"Re(2):Kono ihuku, mamoritai." , posted Fri 1 Jul 03:02post reply

Quin's Gait In game, I suppose that there is nothing like seeing your favorites doing thing "out of character". Dengeki article

Dragon Quest 1, 2, 3 collection for the Wii? I suppose this should make people happy. Does it include a DQ X demo?

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"Re(5):Random thread, now with 1UP?!" , posted Fri 1 Jul 15:05:post reply

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Insert Credit is back! That's great news!!

Good grief, in the same week as Insert Credit's revival, Jeremey Parish, the finest writer in the mainstream American gaming "press" (as opposed to wonderful Game Developer etc.), became editor of 1UP, which previously I had no use for since he had a personal site anyway. In my wild and improbable fantasies, it will transform into another place with actual games criticism in the vein of IC or ABDN.





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"Re(6):Random thread, now with 1UP?!" , posted Fri 1 Jul 21:26:post reply

quote:
Insert Credit is back! That's great news!!
Good grief, in the same week as Insert Credit's revival, Jeremey Parish, the finest writer in the mainstream American gaming "press" (as opposed to wonderful Game Developer etc.), became editor of 1UP, which previously I had no use for since he had a personal site anyway. In my wild and improbable fantasies, it will transform into another place with actual games criticism in the vein of IC or ABDN.

It has been a great week. IC has great potential as I've enjoyed the writings of most of its staff, and they have a story about Yu Suzuki which is always awesome with me. And if Jeremy Parish being the EIC means that I can expect excellent features like this one and ones similar to his personal site then I'm ecstatic.

EDIT: It seems that ARIKA are testing out the 3DS to see if they might make a new Street Fighter EX without the street fighter part. It's good to see that after all the crap that ex-capcom studio GameRepublic went through I'm hoping that ARIKA does end up making a new fighting game, the genre that put them on the map.





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"Kono skullomania, mamoritai." , posted Sat 2 Jul 05:20post reply

Arika is not at all in the same situation as Game Republic. They are a smaller company, never developed any expensive HD project and somehow ended up in the Nintendo pool of small developers, alongside NDcube, Mitchell, Arzest et al. They recently developed 3D Classics Excitebike for Nintendo 3DS. I would not be too worried about them. Regarding ex-Capcom employees, I am more concerned about Funamizu's fate after the difficult start of Earth Seeker.

One thing I have to credit Arika and SFEX for is that they were the best ever at naming new characters. Doctrine Dark, Blair Dame, Pullum Purna, Cracker Jack, Skullomania, Vulcano Rosso, ShadowGeist, Allen Snider, Darun Mister... I love those names. The games, not so much.

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"Re(7):Random thread, now with 1UP?!" , posted Mon 4 Jul 00:00post reply

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EDIT: It seems that ARIKA are testing out the 3DS to see if they might make a new Street Fighter EX without the street fighter part.



Yes, please make this happen. And throw in some of those chars from Fighting Layer while you're at it.





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"Re(8):Random thread, now with 1UP?!" , posted Mon 4 Jul 04:20post reply

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Yes, please make this happen. And throw in some of those chars from Fighting Layer while you're at it.



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"Re(9):Random thread, now with 1UP?!" , posted Mon 4 Jul 10:07post reply

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Yes, please make this happen. And throw in some of those chars from Fighting Layer while you're at it.


Yes please!




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"Re(10):Random thread, now with 1UP?!" , posted Mon 4 Jul 10:27post reply

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"Re(2):Re(10):Random thread, now with 1UP?!" , posted Mon 4 Jul 19:32post reply

On a completely unrelated note, the PSN Store in Japan is FINALLY reopening on the 6th after a grewling two months.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Random thread, now with PSN?!" , posted Tue 5 Jul 05:30post reply

I think, just by saying it, you jinxed it.

I have a "battered wife"-type relationship with Bakuman but I am slightly excited to see what will become of Bakuman DS.

Speaking of Jump. I realize the recent Saint Seya and DBZ announcements are also due to the popularity of the series in Southern Europe, but such announcements keep validating the notion that Jump is still breathing thanks to the Eighties and Nineties and has not even had a real hit since Naruto and One Piece. Despite its incredible popularity, One Piece is not a killer in terms of branded products either, especially video games. All this is very weirdly absent from the fantasy world of Bakuman, in which everyone is doing gangbusters with a new wave of popular authors battling each others.





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"Re(4):Re(10):Random thread, now with PSN?!" , posted Tue 5 Jul 22:31post reply

Looking at that Shonen Jump graph, it almost reminds me of the golden years and the fall of fighting games. At least Jump is still doing well-- it's actually hard to find a weekly Sunday or Champion if you miss it by a day. The convenience stores don't stock on them because they know the mags won't sell!





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"Re(5):Re(10):Random thread, now with PSN?!" , posted Fri 8 Jul 22:52post reply

As a matter of public record I wanted to state that I'm really enjoying Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon. The whole guys shooting giant bugs plot plays out like something I would have dreamt up while playing with plastic army men when I was a kid and is as entertaining today as that scenario was back then. I've even been having fun with the online features since it's all about co-op bug killing instead of some stupid capture the flag or deathmatch modes. The only strange thing I've noticed is that I'm running into the same players online. Either the game creates rooms based on strict parameters or hardly anyone is playing this game.





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"Re(6):Re(10):Random thread, now with PSN?!" , posted Sat 9 Jul 01:39post reply

quote:
As a matter of public record I wanted to state that I'm really enjoying Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon. The whole guys shooting giant bugs plot plays out like something I would have dreamt up while playing with plastic army men when I was a kid and is as entertaining today as that scenario was back then. I've even been having fun with the online features since it's all about co-op bug killing instead of some stupid capture the flag or deathmatch modes. The only strange thing I've noticed is that I'm running into the same players online. Either the game creates rooms based on strict parameters or hardly anyone is playing this game.



As an EDF fanboy, there are some things I love about the game and some things that greatly disappoint me.

The fact that the name tags of the AI teammates are Kid and Oldman at the start of the game made me smile. Trooper is basically classic EDF guy/Storm 1, while the flying suit is like Pale Wing from EDF 2. The battle armor is pretty darn cool, and seeing the flying enemies crash down into you as you kill them is great.

However, the sound effects are really weak. None of the weapons at the start of the game have any oopmh to them. Particle effects have all been dialed down. I can't tell if there's less NPC chatter than before, either (which was a huge part of the EDF experience!). Buildings take a fair bit more to destroy (in previous EDFs, a single hit from just about any explosive weapon would knock a building down). I'm only about 1/3 of the way into the game, so there's still a lot I haven't seen, but I've yet to see anything quite as dramatic as giant robots storming a beach at sunset. Unlocking things with earned points rather than random drops has its plusses, though no longer being able to see a screen full of new weapons is unfortunate.

One of the head designers has also been posting on gamefaqs about the game! He has a variety of things to say, and his mention of Splash Grenade Alpha as one of the team's favourite weapons from EDF 2017 was heartening! (for those who don't know: it fires a spray of 20 timed fuse bouncing grenades, each which deal 1000 damage in a blast, so it's quite difficult just to survive accidentally getting hit by a little bit of that spray! To make things more fun, it seems that the grenades bounce with unpredictable energy!)

With the PS3 HD remakes of games, I have to honestly say that I'm hoping for an HD EDF 2. However, I have a feeling that it's more likely that we'll see that effort just poured into EDF 4 instead.





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"Yoga Ono" , posted Sat 9 Jul 04:15post reply

At least I think so.







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"Re(1):Yoga Ono" , posted Sat 9 Jul 07:47post reply

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At least I think so.

The yellow strands of his wraps threw me for a second. When I first saw them I thought they were long, stringy hair like Gill sports.

quote:
However, the sound effects are really weak. None of the weapons at the start of the game have any oopmh to them. Particle effects have all been dialed down. I can't tell if there's less NPC chatter than before, either (which was a huge part of the EDF experience!). Buildings take a fair bit more to destroy (in previous EDFs, a single hit from just about any explosive weapon would knock a building down). I'm only about 1/3 of the way into the game, so there's still a lot I haven't seen, but I've yet to see anything quite as dramatic as giant robots storming a beach at sunset. Unlocking things with earned points rather than random drops has its plusses, though no longer being able to see a screen full of new weapons is unfortunate.


I agree, the sounds and impact of some of the weapons could be better. If you're going to go out and shoot bugs and UFO's you want to feel it. At least the weapons that you unlock or pick up from large enemies often have more heft to them. It's also a nice touch that everyone playing the level gets the weapons. There would be nothing more annoying than doing all the work and having some quick character dart in and steal everything.

Also, thanks for the heads-up about one of the designers posting on GameFAQS. It's always nice to see someone who is happy with the game they made and want to discuss it with the players.





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"Re(2):Yoga Ono" , posted Wed 13 Jul 04:44post reply

Double Post!

It looks like Konami is getting into the shooting giant bugs business.

Is there a name for this "team up and kill big bosses" genre?





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Is there a name for this "team up and kill big bosses" genre?

I vote for calling it "Serious Sam-ing" or "Gunstar Hero-ing."





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"Re(4):Yoga Ono" , posted Wed 13 Jul 06:45post reply

quote:
Is there a name for this "team up and kill big bosses" genre?
I vote for calling it "Serious Sam-ing" or "Gunstar Hero-ing."



I dunno about Serious Sam, because while Serious Sam has huuuuge bosses, hordes of not-gigantic enemies are an even bigger part of the game.

At first I was thinking of EDF, but again, EDF has hordes in addition to megasuperhuge bosses... this one showed a couple of big wasps together, but not hordes.

It kinda makes me think of Monster Hunter.





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"Re(5):Yoga Ono" , posted Wed 13 Jul 06:46post reply

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I dunno about Serious Sam, because while Serious Sam has huuuuge bosses, hordes of not-gigantic enemies are an even bigger part of the game.
True, though the sheer scale of the giant dude in 1 or the Mental Institution (haw) in 2 make all the rest of the small enemies moot. I've never seen anything like it, or had a more exciting coop battle against a huge enemy.





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"Re(3):Yoga Ono" , posted Wed 13 Jul 07:15post reply

quote:

It looks like Konami is getting into the shooting giant bugs business.



Wow, that first song on the trailer sounds a little too close to "Man with the Machine Gun".

I like that you can evidently edit what your "dialogue picture" looks like. I see a lot of minor variations. It's rare that you get to edit something 2D like an illustration in games. The only examples I can think of off the top of my head are the Yu-Gi-Oh games, where, thanks to the artstyle, it's impossible to make a character that doesn't look afflicted.





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"Re(4):Yoga Ono" , posted Wed 13 Jul 19:07post reply

quote:
Is there a name for this "team up and kill big bosses" genre?
I vote for calling it "Serious Sam-ing" or "Gunstar Hero-ing."



"Alien Soldiering"? (I haven't actually played Alien Soldier, but iirc all descriptions of it boil down to "boss rush: the game")





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"Re(3):Yoga Ono" , posted Wed 13 Jul 19:30post reply

quote:
It looks like Konami is getting into the shooting giant bugs business.

Is there a name for this "team up and kill big bosses" genre?



Wow, they just slapped Lost Planet 2 and Border Break together... but it looks so bleh.





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"Alien Soldiering"? (I haven't actually played Alien Soldier, but iirc all descriptions of it boil down to "boss rush: the game")

Alien Soldier is superb, and I thought about calling it that (especially since the name sounds so universal), but alas, the one shortcoming is that there is no co-op.





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"SDCC" , posted Fri 15 Jul 02:00post reply

Dean Earwicker teaser trailer.

Since there seems to be any number of things being unveiled at San Diego Comic Con I figured I should also note that Raphael and the substitute for Seong Mi-Na are also going to be shown. I've heard some rumblings about MvC3 news but that could easily be fans whipping themselves into a lather over nothing.





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Avast, you utter the cursed re-Romanization of our lord(ess) and savior's name? The only good Soul games out there contain Seung Mina. Conversely, the quality of Soul Calibur games can also be traced to the level of ridiculousness of Raphael's look and story (quality is a reverse function of rising ridiculousness).

But doesn't that shadow look more like a Taki successor? And that shadow is wild even for the stupid directions they took Raphael, no?





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"Re(1):Seung vs. Seong" , posted Fri 15 Jul 14:52post reply

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Seong Mi-Na Avast, you utter the cursed re-Romanization of our lord(ess) and savior's name? The only good Soul games out there contain Seung Mina. Conversely, the quality of Soul Calibur games can also be traced to the level of ridiculousness of Raphael's look and story (quality is a reverse function of rising ridiculousness).



I only remember the first Soul Calibur being any good (having played it to death on my Dreamcast), and for the life of me I don't remember Raphael being in it.





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"Re(1):Seung vs. Seong" , posted Fri 15 Jul 22:55:post reply

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Seong Mi-Na Avast, you utter the cursed re-Romanization of our lord(ess) and savior's name? The only good Soul games out there contain Seung Mina. Conversely, the quality of Soul Calibur games can also be traced to the level of ridiculousness of Raphael's look and story (quality is a reverse function of rising ridiculousness).

But doesn't that shadow look more like a Taki successor? And that shadow is wild even for the stupid directions they took Raphael, no?


Yeah, girl shadow probably is Taki mk.2 but I do appreciate that long-standing SC fan xuexueyuehua tried to make the image work with what she was hoping for.

As for Raphael, while I've never been thrilled with any of his more recent designs I always keep in mind he's in the same series that features Siegfried walking around in chintzy looking crystal armor. There's no such thing as too much in SC. I wonder if Raphael now has evil crystals sprouting out of him?

EDIT: Neo-Taki, with hot pants for her outfit and a hot mess for her hair.





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"Re(2):Seung vs. Seong" , posted Sat 16 Jul 01:54post reply

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I only remember the first Soul Calibur being any good (having played it to death on my Dreamcast), and for the life of me I don't remember Raphael being in it.


Might as well say that quality is inversely related to Taki's breast size, as long as you believe the series has only gone downhill.





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"Re(1):SDCC" , posted Sat 16 Jul 03:42post reply

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I've heard some rumblings about MvC3 news but that could easily be fans whipping themselves into a lather over nothing.


This, however, is totally legit and confirmed.





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"Re(2):SDCC" , posted Sat 16 Jul 09:34post reply

Arcsys points out that Continium Shaft is to get an update (hinted to be small by the .05)

Harmony of despair to grace psn. Seriously, the whole reason that I got a hi def expensive output was to see in all of it's glory those Rondo of Blood sprites. I'm not kidding with this.

Quin's Gait at dengeki Cham cham got quite an extensive coverage.

A music Final Fantasy game. Normally I would scorn, laugh and throw sassy comments in the usual way; but considering Uematsu's track record with the series this might be more worthwhile than the actual upcoming numbered games.






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"720 spinning single leg takedown" , posted Mon 18 Jul 13:28post reply

This has nothing to do with nothing. But it's one of the best things ive seen, so here you go:



http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lohr83egWU1qzea6yo1_500.gif

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"Re(1):720 spinning single leg takedown" , posted Mon 18 Jul 13:43:post reply

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This has nothing to do with nothing. But it's one of the best things ive seen, so here you go:



http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lohr83egWU1qzea6yo1_500.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lohrk7Fe0i1qzea6yo1_500.gif



That is actually the Dragon Screw, - I think - a real life move (I'm not good with throws). I think Ramon did something similar in game wise. Tekken King also has it as part of one of his counter variations, I think.

This would have gone better on the non gaming thread (along with the myth of the 7 balls!), but oh well.






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"Re(1):720 spinning single leg takedown" , posted Mon 18 Jul 13:49post reply

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This has nothing to do with nothing. But it's one of the best things ive seen, so here you go:



http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lohr83egWU1qzea6yo1_500.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lohrk7Fe0i1qzea6yo1_500.gif



I remember reading Nichijou once and not being that enthralled with it.

On the other hand, is the anime of it always that amazing?





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"Re(2):720 spinning single leg takedown" , posted Mon 18 Jul 14:53post reply

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This would have gone better on the non gaming thread (along with the myth of the 7 balls!), but oh well.



No problemo. Fixed.






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"g.o.a.t." , posted Tue 19 Jul 01:56post reply

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I remember reading Nichijou once and not being that enthralled with it.

On the other hand, is the anime of it always that amazing?



Since it's being done by the studio behind Suzumiya Haruhi, yes. The reaction faces are godlike.





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"Good/Bad" , posted Wed 20 Jul 01:26post reply

I've got bad news and good(ish) news:

First, here is this sad little note. It sounds as though this was already suspected though. Ah well.

Then the sorta good news: unless like me you already bought the import compilation. I'm just glad as always that they old stuff is getting some love.






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"Re(1):Good/Bad" , posted Wed 20 Jul 10:07post reply

This reminded me how a wasted was the game room for the XBOX

Nothing against konami, activion or Atari, but at this point I wanted to see more companies like capcom, snk or sega, specially the last one from 80's games, I will gladly paid those 3 dollars for those games, but well, lol Microsoft it seems that this project was a fail from day one

btw

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"Lollipop Chainsaw, now in the right thread" , posted Thu 21 Jul 00:28post reply

Lollipop Chainsaw is Grasshopper's new project, which according to Famitsu translations is about a cheerleader dancing and pink-blood spraying zombie action.

So it sounds like GHM is making Oneechanbara.





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"Re(1):Lollipop Chainsaw, now in the right thr" , posted Thu 21 Jul 03:01:post reply

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Lollipop Chainsaw is Grasshopper's new project, which according to Famitsu translations is about a cheerleader dancing and pink-blood spraying zombie action.

So it sounds like GHM is making Oneechanbara.



This contains anything strong marketable in the west:

-zombies
-gore
-boobs

I'm really tired of games that copy most of their formula from others, with the exscuses of marketing. Take it as Dead Rising+Mad World, or good paced Onechanbara.
Also, why westernize the product? They art style and the setting is in the west, a wacky japanese zombie slasher wasn't that good?
Bored AS HELL.





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"Re(2):Lollipop Chainsaw, now in the right thr" , posted Thu 21 Jul 05:45post reply

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Lollipop Chainsaw is Grasshopper's new project, which according to Famitsu translations is about a cheerleader dancing and pink-blood spraying zombie action.

So it sounds like GHM is making Oneechanbara.


This contains anything strong marletable in the west:

-zombies
-gore
-boobs

I'm really tired of games that copy most of their formula from others, with the exscuses of marketing. Take it as Dead Rising+Mad World, or good paced Onechanbara.
Also, why westernize the product? They art style and the setting is in the west, a wacky japanese zombie slasher wasn't that good?
Bored AS HELL.



Actually, the "pink blood" was a mistranslation; unless this is also a mistranslation, the word from Suda is:
"Instead of sprays of blood, we have the zombies emitting bursts of pink light. When it comes to gore, we can certainly go that way if we want, but we wanted to give the game more of a 'pop' feel."

The zombies in the screenshots, however, still look like typical zombies.


I wonder if having the dismembered talking head companion is going to be a recurring Grasshopper game... first Shadows of the Damned, and now this!





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"Re(1):Lollipop Chainsaw, now in the right thr" , posted Thu 21 Jul 07:04post reply

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Lollipop Chainsaw is Grasshopper's new project, which according to Famitsu translations is about a cheerleader dancing and pink-blood spraying zombie action.

So it sounds like GHM is making Oneechanbara.



Bad Girl should be an additional playable character. She could bring her theme song.





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"Re(3):Lollipop Chainsaw, now in the right thr" , posted Thu 21 Jul 11:26post reply

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I wonder if having the dismembered talking head companion is going to be a recurring Grasshopper game... first Shadows of the Damned, and now this!

Don't forget Susie from Killer 7!





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"Re(4):Lollipop Chainsaw, now in the right thr" , posted Thu 21 Jul 11:47post reply

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I wonder if having the dismembered talking head companion is going to be a recurring Grasshopper game... first Shadows of the Damned, and now this!
Don't forget Susie from Killer 7!



Very true, and she was certainly around often enough!

GHM should license Talking Heads in their next game.





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"Re(5):Lollipop Chainsaw, now in the right thr" , posted Fri 22 Jul 04:33post reply

Sengoku Basara 3 Utage screens

Playable Muneshige yay~

Matsunaga yay~

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"Re(6):Lollipop Chainsaw, now in the right thr" , posted Thu 28 Jul 05:42post reply

And here's a remake I never thought I'd see: Double Dragon II

I don't mind them keeping Marion alive in this version of DDII, much less making her a playable character, or even turning Jeff into one of the good guys. But this game looks like they licensed the Fighting Force engine and slapped on some generic PS2 graphics. I hate to criticize a company that's willing to give the DD franchise another chance, but it looks like they mailed this one in. Hopefully the finished product proves me wrong.





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"Nintendo axes 3DS" , posted Thu 28 Jul 19:41:post reply

3DS price almost slashed to half from 25000 yen to 15000 yen effective August 11, a 40% drop!

People who bought it must be pissed, considering the handheld has been out for less than six months (released Feb 26).

Those people can cry off their tears with free downloadable virtual console NES(10 titles) & GBA games(10 titles). The GBA virtual console titles will be exclusive to this event.

Super Mario 1, Donkey Kong Jr, Balloon Fight, Ice Climber, Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Advance 3, Mario Kart Advance, Metroid Fusion, Made in Wario,Mario vs Donkey Kong

How do you feel?
I have a 3DS and I'm fine, 20 games sounds like a good compensation.
I have a 3DS and I'm pissed, 20 Nintendo games aren't good compensations.
I have a 3DS and I'm not sure, I'll have to wait until the rest of the compensation titles get unveiled.
I don't have a 3DS, but I might purchase it after the price slash.
I don't have a 3DS, but I might purchase it before the price slash to get the free 20 games.
I don't have a 3DS, and I'm still not sure if I want one.
All I want is a PSVita.
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"Re(1):Nintendo axes 3DS" , posted Thu 28 Jul 20:27post reply

My precious Virtual Boy 2... I knew they wouldn't understand you like I do. History repeats itself!





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"Re(2):Nintendo axes 3DS" , posted Fri 29 Jul 00:51post reply

Wow, what a drop. I'm glad I waited, but I was expecting only a $50 drop. The thing is now, there are still very few games I want to pick up on the 3DS.

Since Legends 3 has been canceled, Kid Icarus is still not out yet, Layton X Ace Attorney is still quite a bit away I think I may wait a bit more and see if the price drops $10-20 when the Vita comes out.





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"Re(3):Nintendo axes 3DS" , posted Fri 29 Jul 01:58post reply

Has a game company ever declared such a dramatic do-over on a new console? Most every console changes its focus over time but I can't recall such an abrupt, apologetic shift before.

Still, I do wonder if the era of dedicated handheld game devices has already past. Will the Vita suffer the same level of consumer indifference?

quote:
And here's a remake I never thought I'd see: Double Dragon II

I don't mind them keeping Marion alive in this version of DDII, much less making her a playable character, or even turning Jeff into one of the good guys. But this game looks like they licensed the Fighting Force engine and slapped on some generic PS2 graphics. I hate to criticize a company that's willing to give the DD franchise another chance, but it looks like they mailed this one in. Hopefully the finished product proves me wrong.


While it is easy to go overboard in updating the look of a character there are things that are simply old instead of classic. Seriously, it's 2011 and these guys are still running around in matching denim vests and wallet chains? Maybe it's just the art style that's bothering me. Those massive arms make it look like they should walk on their knuckles in the manner of apes. I'm hoping this is good because I love beat 'em ups but this is reminding me a bit too much of that recent, terrible TMNT remake.





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"Re(4):Nintendo axes 3DS" , posted Fri 29 Jul 07:37post reply

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Has a game company ever declared such a dramatic do-over on a new console? Most every console changes its focus over time but I can't recall such an abrupt, apologetic shift before.



Apologetic. I like that word. I think I described Nintendo's strategies as "You'll lick my boots and love it" before.

3DS makes me unhappy. I'd be glad to buy one whenever that "must have" game comes out on it (whatever it may be), but I'm worried about it's region lock. When I think about how many DS games I imported, it seems like I'd be making a mistake buying a 3DS before someone finds a work-around.

On a related note, I'm glad to not see a lot of consumer rage about the price drop (yet). This kind of thing happens all the time. It's the "just announce a new model after you buy the old one" that's really bad.





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"Re(5):Nintendo axes 3DS" , posted Fri 29 Jul 09:09post reply

quote:
On a related note, I'm glad to not see a lot of consumer rage about the price drop (yet). This kind of thing happens all the time. It's the "just announce a new model after you buy the old one" that's really bad.


I want to be optimistic and say that consumers are finally learning how tech works - be happy with what you buy and don't buy it just because it's the best right now, because it's going to be obsolete tomorrow. Or sooner. My job is primarily selling used phones and other gadgets, and I have a lot of ignorant, rude and angry people trying to get cash from me every day. Some people get extremely angry that I won't give them $300 for their Palm Treo from a million years ago... however, the vast majority of them understand how fast tech is moving right now, ESPECIALLY phones. And they know that a $500 phone yesterday is a $300 phone today. You better like your gadget cuz it's not gonna be worth what you paid for it for long at all. And I say this as a man who bought a Droid Incredible 2 today, so...!

Price drops, updated versions, we really should know by now. HOWEVER, the 20 games that Nintendo is dropping on early adopters... That part I didn't see coming! Makes me wanna slap them on the back and call them my friend. Kinda.





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"Re(3):You can save Mega Man Legends 3!" , posted Fri 29 Jul 09:59:post reply

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Since Legends 3 has been canceled...

IT'S NOT COMPLETELY CANCELLED! Go to Capcom-Unity, join devroom, and click on the bar that says "Become a Servbot". Many people joined the Dev Room group but didn't sign up to become a servbot, and the low participation number is what is said to have been the reason of the cancellation. They kept the NA Dev Room open hoping they would see some sort of movement from the 100,000 Strong For Bringing Back Mega Man Legends 3 group.
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3DS makes me unhappy. I'd be glad to buy one whenever that "must have" game comes out on it (whatever it may be), but I'm worried about it's region lock. When I think about how many DS games I imported, it seems like I'd be making a mistake buying a 3DS before someone finds a work-around.

Just how many of your DS games are DSi games? Regular DS import titles still work on a 3DS/DSi. Some of the newer DSi enhanced ones, however, take advantage of the added RAM and the WPA WiFi connection protocol of the DSi. (Solatorobo, Pokemon B&W) Luckily regular DS titles are still more popular.
quote:
Price drops, updated versions, we really should know by now. HOWEVER, the 20 games that Nintendo is dropping on early adopters... That part I didn't see coming! Makes me wanna slap them on the back and call them my friend. Kinda.

I'm all for Yoshi's Island GBA and Metroid Fusion, but if they throw Rhythm Heaven GBA in there localized I would love them.





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"Re(4):You can save Mega Man Legends 3!" , posted Fri 29 Jul 11:07post reply

That would be incredible! So we can safely say that it's not going to happen. Still, for someone who doesn't feel burned in the slightest about buying a 3DS day one, this is amazing news. I'm really excited about all the great free games!





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"Re(4):You can save Mega Man Legends 3!" , posted Fri 29 Jul 11:23post reply

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Makes me wanna slap them on the back and call them my friend. Kinda.


I flip-flop a lot on which company I think is my friend (in truth, probably none of them are), but this is a rare time when I think Nintendo is doing something cool. Obviously, the 3DS isn't selling how they want it to, so I'm excited to see them fight for it in a way that's nice for consumers, too.

Actually, I forgot that I owe Nintendo on some level for Xenoblade and Last Story, too. I never cared much for my Wii, but those are 2 out of the maybe 3 or 4 truly excellent RPGs this generation.

quote:
Since Legends 3 has been canceled...
IT'S NOT COMPLETELY CANCELLED!


I hardly even like Megaman, I don't own a 3DS and I might not buy the game anyway, but I'm so irritated in principle for its cancellation that I'm all for anything that can turn it around.

I don't know if I totally buy their explanation, but drumming up a bunch of support for the title certainly can't hurt!

quote:
Just how many of your DS games are DSi games? Regular DS import titles still work on a 3DS/DSi. Some of the newer DSi enhanced ones, however, take advantage of the added RAM and the WPA WiFi connection protocol of the DSi.


I'm not worried about playing DS games on it, I'm worried about playing 3DS games, though I can see where you might've made that conclusion from the way I said it.

On a semi-related note, I'm playing UnchainBlades RexX on PSP right now, and since it's on 3DS, I would recommend it for 3DS owners looking for an RPG...but...yeah...region lock. Still, it's a nice game if you like Etrian Odyssey/SMT style dungeon crawlers.





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"Re:You probably can't save Mega Man Legends" , posted Fri 29 Jul 14:33:post reply

quote:
Since Legends 3 has been canceled...
IT'S NOT COMPLETELY CANCELLED! Go to Capcom-Unity, join devroom, and click on the bar that says "Become a Servbot".
Relatedly, in FF VII, if you talk to a guy called "the general" who lives in the pipe in Sector 7 and then return later on, he'll teach you how to get the underwater materia so you can revive Aerith and the game's ironic ending will be replaced with a much happier one, with Vincent and Yuffie appearing even.
quote:
Still, I do wonder if the era of dedicated handheld game devices has already past.
I think it's more that Nintendo made the spectacularly unfortunate move of gambling on a (hopefully passing) technological trend/gimmick, one which makes a lot of people sick to their stomach or headachey. Like, the stylus and Wiimote are odd "gimmick" contraptions too, but they are Nintendo's, rather than a potentially passing fad. The fact that game cameras make half of the people in Asia sick probably should've been a hint that 3D eye tricks might be a risky endeavor/hard sell.





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"Re(1):Re:You probably can't save Mega Man Leg" , posted Wed 3 Aug 09:47post reply

quote:
I think it's more that Nintendo made the spectacularly unfortunate move of gambling on a (hopefully passing) technological trend/gimmick, one which makes a lot of people sick to their stomach or headachey.


See, I don't get people that say "Oh, 3D makes me sick!" when, if you still have vision, you're looking at 3D every day. The actual problem is you're used to (and are conditioned to) looking at 2D motion pictures.

The fact that we're seeing phones with 3D features on them tells me that it's not going away anytime soon.





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"Re(2):Re:You probably can't save Mega Man Leg" , posted Wed 3 Aug 15:18post reply

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See, I don't get people that say "Oh, 3D makes me sick!" when, if you still have vision, you're looking at 3D every day. The actual problem is you're used to (and are conditioned to) looking at 2D motion pictures.
But see, "3D" isn't actually anything like real life, it's just a bunch of layered/parallaxed 2D scenes on top of each other...it doesn't even look particularly realistic so much as it looks like one of those plastic viewfinder toys from the 80's. And you have to semi-squint or cross your eyes to "see" this effect, so I'm not too surprised a lot of people are bothered by it.





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"Re(3):Re:You probably can't save Mega Man Leg" , posted Wed 3 Aug 17:36:post reply

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See, I don't get people that say "Oh, 3D makes me sick!" when, if you still have vision, you're looking at 3D every day. The actual problem is you're used to (and are conditioned to) looking at 2D motion pictures. But see, "3D" isn't actually anything like real life, it's just a bunch of layered/parallaxed 2D scenes on top of each other...it doesn't even look particularly realistic so much as it looks like one of those plastic viewfinder toys from the 80's. And you have to semi-squint or cross your eyes to "see" this effect, so I'm not too surprised a lot of people are bothered by it.



No, it really is 3-dimensional. The only time it has that "layered" effect is when it's a bunch of images put together (like a menu), because flat 2D images can't establish depth with a 3D graphics pipeline.

I think what people are actually bothered by is the fact you have to look directly into the screen. You can't angle it even slightly or the image gets distorted. Your eyes will try to refocus on it but they can't, which is where the headaches come from.





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"Re(4):Re:You probably can't save Mega Man Leg" , posted Wed 3 Aug 23:33post reply

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I think what people are actually bothered by is the fact you have to look directly into the screen. You can't angle it even slightly or the image gets distorted. Your eyes will try to refocus on it but they can't, which is where the headaches come from.



I know what you mean. When I tried out the 3DS, my eyes felt incredibly sore after 5 minutes. That's when I decided that I'll stick with my DSi and pass on the 3DS. If I can't play a game for more than a few minutes on the 3DS, then there's no point in me buying it. I was really surpised that my eyes had become sore because it's never happened to me before, even after playing hours of FPS' or watching 3D movies like Avatar.

But I still have to give Nintendo some respect for trying something bold. And giving their early adopters all those free games was a very smart thing to do.





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"Heroes Fantasia" , posted Thu 4 Aug 00:47post reply

New crossover RPG for the PSP featuring characters from Slayers, Keroro Gunso and Blood+, along with a few others I'm even less familiar with.

I'm a bit worried about the current description for the controls though - if each button seems to activate a different character's attack (you only have 4 available in your party), how do you toss in some variety in their moves? Maybe more action points automatically make you use stronger attacks?
It would otherwise remind me of Cross Edge, where the shoulder buttons switched between characters and you got to pick between 4 different attacks, which actually created a nice pace, and made the timing more interesting for combos if you know how to pull them off.

If SRW Z2-2 doesn't get announced before this is released, I might consider having it ordered along with Queen's Gate - I'm still too appreensive about that game to order it by itself...





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"Re(3):" , posted Thu 4 Aug 10:16:post reply

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But see, "3D" isn't actually anything like real life, it's just a bunch of layered/parallaxed 2D scenes on top of each other...it doesn't even look particularly realistic so much as it looks like one of those plastic viewfinder toys from the 80's. And you have to semi-squint or cross your eyes to "see" this effect, so I'm not too surprised a lot of people are bothered by it.

I don't need to squint or cross my eyes to see the 3D effect. If something seems off I just tone it down with the slider, or readjust my angle a bit to fix it. I never felt dizzy even after playing long hours of OoT3D.

I think that Unchainblades Rexx game is out, although I feel more preoccupied by this new Rhythm Tengoku game more than anything.





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"Re(4):" , posted Thu 4 Aug 11:06post reply

The Ballad of Mike Haggar.

It reminds me of the time Michael Jackson had to stop Zangief from body splashing the Earth.





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The Ballad of Mike Haggar.

It reminds me of the time Michael Jackson had to stop Zangief from body splashing the Earth.

this is the most heroic thing I have seen all week

My breath stopped for a moment when one of the El Gado (?) goons (from Rolento's later winposes) almost got him in the back.





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"Re(5):Re:You probably can't save Mega Man Leg" , posted Thu 4 Aug 11:52post reply

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I know what you mean. When I tried out the 3DS, my eyes felt incredibly sore after 5 minutes. That's when I decided that I'll stick with my DSi and pass on the 3DS. If I can't play a game for more than a few minutes on the 3DS, then there's no point in me buying it. I was really surpised that my eyes had become sore because it's never happened to me before, even after playing hours of FPS' or watching 3D movies like Avatar.

It bugged me a little the first day because I wasn't used to it - not much after that. The only time it bothers me now is if I spend waaay too long playing on a very high setting that requires me to focus for a long time - this has happened a couple times with OoT! People seem so eager to hate 3D for som reason. Never understood that at all.





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"Re(5):" , posted Thu 4 Aug 12:08post reply

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I think that Unchainblades Rexx game is out



I'm used to people overlooking my posts, but I mentioned this in response to you.

That's okay, I make rambling blog posts without any regard to people actually caring, so I'll do that now about Unchainblades Rexx, but I'll use bold words, so maybe someone will notice.

So, I got this game called Unchainblades Rexx which is a good game to get if you're interested in what the Lunar and Grandia people (who aren't dead) are doing now. It even has a character designed by the Lunar character designer. But actually, it might be better for people who like Etrian Odyssey or SMT , since it's a cruel dungeon crawler.

The story is cute. It reminds of the Wizard of Oz, since it's about a bunch of ragtag idiots trying to get a wish from a goddess. For example, there's a sexy gorgon who is afraid of men (and turns them to stone) that wants help with her love life. Or a giant golem prince who has a cowards heart and wants to be a boy instead of a giant killing machine that needs to find a bride. Then there's a phoenix that wants to be reborn as a dragon. Etc. Etc. Some wishes you don't know yet and some actually get granted along the way.

The main character is kind of a jerk. All he cares about is strength, so it's kind of fun to see how things work out for him. He's not a bad guy, but he's certainly not motivated by kindness. Actually, most of the characters have severe character flaws that would prevent them from getting anything done if they were alone.

There's a monster recruit system, but you don't use them as a characters. Instead they're your "followers". Once you recruit them, you equip them (up to 4) to a character. They assist you when you attack, take hits for you (if their loyalty is high enough) and determine which combination moves you are able to do. For example, each follower has a certain elemental affiliation and a certain spell will require say, 3 "fires" or 2 "fires" and a "wind". So you have to be careful about what followers you equip to what master.


The dungeons are long and grueling, but the systems in the game are cleverly assembled, so when it makes me jump through hoops, I enjoy trying to meet the challenge.

The following is something interesting about the game, but even without mentioning names, it's still a spoiler. I'll be a little vague, but I'll mark it anyway.



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After you finish the first major dungeon, which is almost 10 hours into the game, it switches characters. You suddenly have a new party that's level 1 and has no money or any of the awesome stuff you had before. That took a little getting used to. I had to take a day off from the game, but once I got rolling again, I was very happy with it.

Then...it happens again. Only this time you only have ONE GUY. He can't heal. He can't do magic. He has no money. His dungeon is completely covered in poison fields that you have no choice but to walk through. Walk through 4 in a row and you lose half your life. It is a desperate, desperate battle. When I was so fed up with it that I said "if something doesn't happen NOW, I quit.", something awesome happened. It was a great surprise that played in very well with the overwhelming sense of futility I was feeling.


End of Spoiler



There are other things to mention. The soundtrack has some good tracks, there's an annoying follower-only battle minigame that sometimes brings the game to a screeching halt. The art and voice acting is kind of shoddy sometimes, but the world is very unique. There aren't NEARLY enough bosses. It's consistently funny, and like an older RPG, the characters never talk too much. The story is sparse, but strangely enjoyable.

I like it, but I'm not super crazy about it. If you like dungeon crawlers and it looks interesting to you, you'll probably enjoy it...whoever you are.





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"Re(6):" , posted Thu 4 Aug 15:06:post reply

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I'm used to people overlooking my posts... That's okay, I make rambling blog posts without any regard to people actually caring, so I'll do that now about Unchainblades Rexx, but I'll use bold words, so maybe someone will notice....

The story is cute. It reminds of the Wizard of Oz... The main character is kind of a jerk. All he cares about is strength, so it's kind of fun to see how things work out for him.


Oh Polly, I actually care. You're adorable.

I looked up this game and was disappointed that the sexy Gorgon was not actually half-snake. I always kind of had the hots for Deis/Blue in Breath of Fire. Or the top half, anyway.

Sounds interesting, though. The spoilers strike me as cool rather than annoying. I think I could deal with it. I'll definitely at least glance in this game's direction if it happens to be localized.





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"Re(6):" , posted Fri 5 Aug 03:46post reply

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It bugged me a little the first day because I wasn't used to it - not much after that. The only time it bothers me now is if I spend waaay too long playing on a very high setting that requires me to focus for a long time - this has happened a couple times with OoT! People seem so eager to hate 3D for som reason. Never understood that at all.



Good to know, I'll give the 3DS another chance then.





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"Re(3):Re:You probably can't save Mega Man Leg" , posted Fri 5 Aug 11:03post reply

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And you have to semi-squint or cross your eyes to "see" this effect, so I'm not too surprised a lot of people are bothered by it.



I've been told I'm blind, but I see it fine. You're supposed to look directly at it. That's why when I show my 3D pictures to other people I hand it to them; turning it around and showing it to them will never work.

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"Re(6):" , posted Sat 6 Aug 00:43post reply

quote:

I think that Unchainblades Rexx game is out


I'm used to people overlooking my posts, but I mentioned this in response to you.



I thought women were used to men not listening (well, reading, in this case) to what they say. But wait, you're actually not a...!

...Hrm, nevermind.

Anyway, this idea of scattering bold cased words on our posts is really amazing and I can totally see it becoming a trend from now on. I feel as I'm reading an old Marvel comic book!





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"Catherine, now that I've beaten it once" , posted Sun 7 Aug 02:26post reply

I remember one of the older threads had impressions of the game from the JP release, but now that I've had a chance to play through the NA release I want to drop some change about it.

Spoilers, I guess.



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If there's one thing about the game that makes the entire business of choosing between Catherine/Katherine an issue, it's that you are dropped into the middle of Vincent's life with virtually no understanding of his relationship with Katherine. Some things are obvious right away, like how your friends perceive your relationship, but for a character who ought to know Katherine well (Vincent) you (the player) don't know Katherine well at all. Her controlling and cool demeanour definitely serve that feeling of loss of freedom that comes with committment, though. Maybe Katherine and Vincent have been together long enough that things are just very normal on a day-to-day basis between the two, but by the time you get towards the end and Vincent is gushing about how much he loves Katherine (the lines could also be for Catherine, but let's just go with the K route for now) and how important Katherine is to his life, it sounds unbelievable just based on what you've seen of their relationship in the game.

The boss fights felt mostly annoying rather than fun. I think hearing the same screeching lines death after death is what really made it grating. It also seems that the undo command in boss fights does not completely reset the position of the boss to where it was at that step you have gone back to, so it is quite possible to get yourself into situations where you just die while trying to figure it out.

At one point in the game I think I had 90 retries in stock, such that the number of retries I had remaining wasn't important at all anymore, and I was just annoyed at how far back the checkpoint was.

The entire motivation of the nightmares makes at least one character seem a strange fit for it: the policeman. His wife is already dead, and he's not engaged in any relationship. If Mutton's stated plan was to end any relationship that looks to be unfruitful, it doesn't make sense to include the policeman.

While Vincent might be on slightly better terms with the Boss in the good endings, I'm surprised he can be that friendly with a person who is a serial killer that has made attempts on the lives of Vincent and all of Vincent's male friends. Maybe it's just something you learn to live with.



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"Re(1):Catherine, now that I've beaten it once" , posted Sun 7 Aug 11:35post reply

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I remember one of the older threads had impressions of the game from the JP release, but now that I've had a chance to play through the NA release I want to drop some change about it.

Spoilers, I guess.





You know, I only recently found out about this game. I have no idea about how the gameplay is, but the plot seems to be incredibly interesting (two sexy girls for one single guy, sheep-men, insane dreams and horrible deaths? What's there not to love about it??).

I heard that there are eight different endings; have you managed to see all of them?





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"Re(2):Catherine, now that I've beaten it once" , posted Sun 7 Aug 11:48post reply

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I remember one of the older threads had impressions of the game from the JP release, but now that I've had a chance to play through the NA release I want to drop some change about it.

Spoilers, I guess.




You know, I only recently found out about this game. I have no idea about how the gameplay is, but the plot seems to be incredibly interesting (two sexy girls for one single guy, sheep-men, insane dreams and horrible deaths? What's there not to love about it??).

I heard that there are eight different endings; have you managed to see all of them?



The gameplay is on the whole quite solid, though sometimes the camera gets in the way when I am trying for (what I think is!) a clever play around the back of the wall. The puzzles can be genuinely difficult at times, checkpoints in some stages sometimes feel too far apart, and some of the death stuff actually gets annoying after a bit.

I youtube'd the remaining endings after I had beaten it once. I just didn't have the motivation to play through it again.

I do think that relatively few mystery games, especially ones with heavy supernatural/surreal elements, make me satisfied once they reveal what's behind the mystery. In some ways it's a credit to how well they've managed to build up the sense of mystery, but I can only be so happy when I see the big reveal and my reaction is, "Oh, that's what it was?" rather than "OH WOW!!!!". I'd say on the whole the reveal for Catherine was more on the side of "Oh, that's what it was?", sadly.





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"Re(3):Catherine, now that I've beaten it once" , posted Mon 8 Aug 02:22post reply

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I youtube'd the remaining endings after I had beaten it once. I just didn't have the motivation to play through it again.


How long a game is Catherine? While it's kind of neat that you have that many different ways to make a mess out of Vincent's life I'm not certain how many people are going to try for all the endings unless they are really into puzzle games.

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I do think that relatively few mystery games, especially ones with heavy supernatural/surreal elements, make me satisfied once they reveal what's behind the mystery. In some ways it's a credit to how well they've managed to build up the sense of mystery, but I can only be so happy when I see the big reveal and my reaction is, "Oh, that's what it was?" rather than "OH WOW!!!!". I'd say on the whole the reveal for Catherine was more on the side of "Oh, that's what it was?", sadly.

Now that I think about it, I'm not sure I like the idea that there is any sense of resolution in Catherine, much less eight choices. One of the themes that the advertising is playing up is that can be bizarre, constant works in progress. How do you move from that into any "___ ever after" sort of ending?

Recently I've spent some time plowing through demos. Nothing beats taking a free swing at a game.

Warhammer 40,000: Kill Team: I know nothing about the franchise this is based on but I did enjoy making my little dude run around and shoot space pigs. Has anyone tried out the full game?

Galaga Legions DX: I don't claim to know what makes shmup fans tick but I do wonder if they are thrilled with games designed for a 16 x 9 aspect ratio. Do they really like having a bunch of junk fly in from the sides?

No More Heroes: Heroes Paradise: Since I missed out on the Wii version this was my first go-around with Travis. When playing the game with a standard controller I couldn't help but think this was a game designed for the Wii controller, PS3 Move or other nontraditional controllers where creativity is more important than precision.

Deadliest Warrior: Legends: They've made two of these games?!? The demo wasn't any good but, boy oh boy, was it funny.





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"Re(4):Catherine, now that I've beaten it once" , posted Mon 8 Aug 03:51post reply

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I youtube'd the remaining endings after I had beaten it once. I just didn't have the motivation to play through it again.

How long a game is Catherine? While it's kind of neat that you have that many different ways to make a mess out of Vincent's life I'm not certain how many people are going to try for all the endings unless they are really into puzzle games.



Just playing through the single player Story mode, my save file has about 11 hours on it. The game has lots of bonus missions and a versus mode, and if you Gold rank Story missions, you can skip playing them when going through the Story mode again. So if you spend time doing well on the missions, getting to see all the endings won't actually take 100 hours.

It's not a bad game by any means.

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Warhammer 40k is quite literally the grandfather of the "hulking power armored space marines" aesthetic that you just can't get away from these days, as well as being the major inspiration for a lot of Starcraft. It's worth knowing about simply because of how influential it has been, even if it is the weirdest melange of fantasy, world war 1, sci-fi, gothic, and who knows what else. It's actually kind of remarkable that for all the stuff that it has mixed into it, it manages to have such a strong sense of identity!





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"Re(5):Catherine, now that I've beaten it once" , posted Mon 8 Aug 09:40post reply

I cant' be the only one who isn't a big fan of multiple endings on some kind of games.

For example, I had read that FF XIII-2 will had multiple endings, in those kind of games isn't really encouraging to play the game lots of times, at least for me

Anyway, I want to play catherine, the game is very different and the western demo was amazing, I wanted to bbuy the limited edition, but the price here was 150 dollars, so I will just wait until a friend just finish the game.

Talking about FF XIII, I'm trying to get all the missions and the achievements, I finished the game, and the task will be tedious, but overall my opinion of the game is

Story: Nothing to write home about, except the ending which was amazing, I suppose that you had to get a decent story to had a good ending

Gameplay: Must be my favorite FF or RPG in this aspect, after some gameplay the game gets realy hard, you had to know how to build the paradigms and teams, I'm more hyped for xiii-2, even though the characters look even worse than the original ones





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http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/07/kim-jong-il-has-hackers-farming-mmos-for-in-game-coin-and-we-a/

I don't know, for one I don't believe half of the crap that I had read about north korea, but I could totally buy this piece of news





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"Rexxxx" , posted Wed 10 Aug 03:21post reply

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Unchainblades Rexx which is a good game to get if you're interested in what the Lunar and Grandia people (who aren't dead) are doing now. it's a cruel dungeon crawler.

Why hello! Polly, this is news for the Lunar-Fuurai-disciple in me to care about, boldfaced or not. Granted, I've arguably been interested in finding out what the Lunar/Grandia people have been doing since about 1994 (Lunar 2) or 1996 (Lunar 1 remake). Or maybe 2000 (though Grandia 2 is technically Lunar 2 lite with a fun battle engine). So I guess I've been waiting for another good game for about 11/15 years!





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"Re(1):Rexxxx" , posted Wed 10 Aug 04:04post reply

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Unchainblades Rexx which is a good game to get if you're interested in what the Lunar and Grandia people (who aren't dead) are doing now. it's a cruel dungeon crawler.
Why hello! Polly, this is news for the Lunar-Fuurai-disciple in me to care about, boldfaced or not. Granted, I've arguably been interested in finding out what the Lunar/Grandia people have been doing since about 1994 (Lunar 2) or 1996 (Lunar 1 remake). Or maybe 2000 (though Grandia 2 is technically Lunar 2 lite with a fun battle engine). So I guess I've been waiting for another good game for about 11/15 years!



Well, there was Grandia 3, which was generally excellent except when the characters had anything to say.





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Well, there was Grandia 3, which was generally excellent except when the characters had anything to say.
Back in the 90's, characters knew what to say! Alas! I bought Grandia III for about 1000 yen because I liked the idea of the Fighting Mother character, though I hear she leaves the party after about an hour, which ironically was more time than it took for me to leave the game.





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We made a commercial break from Grandia 3 to announce you that Disgaea 3 has been confirmed for the Vita. This notice is nothing but appropriated for a random eroge designs thread.

We now resume our regular broadcast.






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"Re(4):Eroge designs in general" , posted Thu 11 Aug 12:17:post reply

How did this trend of using eroge artist rise? Is it because they started of as doujin artists then later had their works adopted for mass consumption (as in the case of Takeshi Takeuchi)?

I wondering if more ciche/illustration-like/weird designs will arise too. Lately I've been eyeing Kou Takeuchi and the work he did with WW/RT. Reminds me a lot of Murakami's superflat design, but perhaps less "otaku". I wish companies hired more odd artists and graphic/character designers out there, not that I have anything against eroge artists (I do like Toru Nakayama's work on RMZ/RMZX), but I feel now would be a great opportunity to get more diversity out there (remember when Amano did most of the character art before Nomura? It was very destinct).

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"Re(5):Eroge designs in general" , posted Thu 11 Aug 16:59post reply

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How did this trend of using eroge artist rise? Is it because they started of as doujin artists then later had their works adopted for mass consumption (as in the case of Takeshi Takeuchi)?


I figure the ero field is really competitive and has lots of talented people who'd accept being payed at lower prices to see their work associated with more legit stuff?...





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"Re(6):Eroge designs in general" , posted Sat 13 Aug 03:44post reply

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I figure the ero field is really competitive and has lots of talented people who'd accept being payed at lower prices to see their work associated with more legit stuff?...



I remember reading back in the day that using super deformed / childish designs where simpler to create and work on (specially considering that the other alternative was ripping of HnK level of detail); I never got around to check if that's was one of the reasons for it's boom.

If you look at "history" they have been around from the start (Kimba and earlier?), so it's more like that "animation tried to change into something else, but failed to", or something?

Speaking of, Disgaea gets a Neptunia DLC, or something?






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"Re(7):Eroge designs in general" , posted Mon 15 Aug 07:56post reply

That Styleos Fighter got updated, has more features such as selectable commentary (comment provided by actual players famous on the scene, such as Tokido and others).

Dunno what to expect later of this game, right now the game seems split between taking itself seriously (booh) or being fun for all the wrong reasons ( ).






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"Re(8):Eroge designs in general" , posted Mon 15 Aug 22:13post reply

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That Styleos Fighter got updated, has more features such as selectable commentary (comment provided by actual players famous on the scene, such as Tokido and others).

Dunno what to expect later of this game, right now the game seems split between taking itself seriously (booh) or being fun for all the wrong reasons ( ).

Is there any news on when this game might get released? I don't expect a solid street date to meet a quarterly corporate deadline but it would be nice to know roughly how far along the game is in development.

Elevator Action is coming back. Will it feature the blockheaded characters from the original? Will it have that late 80's/early 90's anime aesthetic that EA Returns had? I don't know, but I hope the game still brings out the thrill that can only be found from watching your character ride in an elevator.





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"Re(9):Eroge designs in general" , posted Mon 15 Aug 22:17post reply

There was an Elevator Action gun game that was released about a year or two ago in Japan. It's surprisingly long, and the thrill of slamming the elevator doors shut in the face of the enemies is surprisingly excellent.





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"Re(10):Eroge designs in general" , posted Mon 15 Aug 22:49post reply

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There was an Elevator Action gun game that was released about a year or two ago in Japan. It's surprisingly long, and the thrill of slamming the elevator doors shut in the face of the enemies is surprisingly excellent.

I did not know that! First person elevator riding sounds like a crazy gimmick.





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"Re(2):Re(10):Eroge designs in general" , posted Tue 16 Aug 23:22post reply

I though that this board having the interests that it does, this might provide a few laughs. Although for all I know someone here has one of these.






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"Gamescom announcements" , posted Wed 17 Aug 00:10post reply

Most surprising: Steel Battalion returns. It no longer comes with the enormous, amazing controller, but it now uses Kinect.

Lollipop Chainsaw gets a trailer.

Kojima teases Zone of the Enders 3DS. I loved ZOE2, so while I'm slightly disappointed that this game isn't going to have the shiniest HD graphics, I'm happy just to get any new ZOE.

And the game I've had a hand in for the past few months has been announced:
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"Re(1):Gamescom announcements" , posted Wed 17 Aug 05:00:post reply

Obligatory dosis of Ashura's Wrath awesomeness:

Gameplay
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I hate to repeat myself, but I think I'm in love <3





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"Re(2):Gamescom announcements" , posted Thu 18 Aug 01:27post reply

quote:
Obligatory dosis of Ashura's Wrath awesomeness:

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I hate to repeat myself, but I think I'm in love <3


When will this game let me punch people through the heavens? I've wanted to play this sucker ever since the first trailer came out so the vague "2012" release date is frustrating.

quote:
Lollipop Chainsaw gets a trailer.


While I want Lollipop Chainsaw to be good something is holding me back from getting excited about the title. But why?

Do I not trust Suda 51 to make a good action game? While I have enjoyed a number of games he's worked on I don't remember any of them being satisfying, white-knuckle action games. Will Lollipop Chainsaw be more like Samurai Champloo: Sidetracked instead of Bayonetta?

Is the fact this is an international project being published by Warner Bros. bothering me? It's hard to say anything good about the gameplay, taste or any other aspect of the Oneechanbara series. Nevertheless, I'm a fan of the games because they are honest about what they are. With it's glossy finish Lollipop Chainsaw feels like middlebrow sleaze. Can a game wallow in sleazy genre trappings and still aim for mainstream acceptance?

Or maybe I'm simply not fond of the design of the main character. That, and the song used in the trailer puts me in mind of how well it was used in Stubbs the Zombie.





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"Re(2):Gamescom announcements" , posted Thu 18 Aug 02:09post reply

quote:
Obligatory dosis of Ashura's Wrath awesomeness:

Gameplay
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I hate to repeat myself, but I think I'm in love <3



I love it!
In fact, I'm currently in the middle of the longest blog post ever regarding all the direct references to Buddhist art in the game. Been working on this baby for 5 months! Going to the LIBRARY yo! SO GOOOD.

Hey does anyone know the name of the classical piece they're playing during that fight on the moon? It's real famous, I just don't know a lick about classical music.

I wanna say it's from Holst's Planets Suite cos it takes place in Space and also cos it's the only classical Suite I can name :P






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"Re(3):Gamescom announcements" , posted Thu 18 Aug 02:16:post reply

quote:


I love it!
In fact, I'm currently in the middle of the longest blog post ever regarding all the direct references to Buddhist art in the game. Been working on this baby for 5 months! Going to the LIBRARY yo! SO GOOOD.

Hey does anyone know the name of the classical piece they're playing during that fight on the moon? It's real famous, I just don't know a lick about classical music.

I wanna say it's from Holst's Planets Suite cos it takes place in Space and also cos it's the only classical Suite I can name :P


No clue myself on the music, but as I've said before, this game is exciting to me in all the ways that so many other games lately aren't. Maybe it's because it's Capcom? I don't know-- I've been burned by them as much as by any other company. I think it's just that it LOOKS incredible, as shallow as that may sound.


EDIT: Also...
quote:
Do I not trust Suda 51 to make a good action game? While I have enjoyed a number of games he's worked on I don't remember any of them being satisfying, white-knuckle action games. Will Lollipop Chainsaw be more like Samurai Champloo: Sidetracked instead of Bayonetta?

I'm a little wary of Suda51 after not really liking Shadows of the Damned, but... Lollipop Chainsaw looks pretty awesome, but... so did SotD when I first saw it, but... LC has a much less conventional conceit, but... it's one more game about killing zombies, even if the character killing them is a little less ordinary, but... I might be curious about Suda's take on zombies? Eh, who knows.






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"Re(3):Gamescom announcements" , posted Thu 18 Aug 02:42:post reply

quote:


Hey does anyone know the name of the classical piece they're playing during that fight on the moon? It's real famous, I just don't know a lick about classical music.

I wanna say it's from Holst's Planets Suite cos it takes place in Space and also cos it's the only classical Suite I can name :P



As far as I can tell, it's Dvorak's New World Symphony.

Ah... Somehow I kind of hope the game does end up having a classic-music based soundtrack. Not even the words of a thousand poets would be enough to describe the awesomeness!





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"Re(4):Gamescom announcements" , posted Thu 18 Aug 23:26post reply

I'm glad that the relatively few 2d games these days are at least really beautiful.






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"Re(5):Gamescom announcements" , posted Fri 19 Aug 01:06post reply

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I'm glad that the relatively few 2d games these days are at least really beautiful.

The presentation on that game is amazing! That's one to keep an eye on.

The page for the latest Elevator Action has opened. I didn't know what they were going to do with the game but I didn't expect them to go with the original arcade game with an added bit of Monkey Punch vibe to the art. I wonder how much, if any, use the multiplayer option is going to get if it's offline only.





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"Re(3):Gamescom announcements" , posted Fri 19 Aug 19:39:post reply

quote:
Obligatory dosis of Ashura's Wrath awesomeness:

Gameplay
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This is the grayer palette I have seen in a CC2 game. That fabulous graphic engine is wasted when they use the please-western-audience mode developing a game.

Suda51 work is fine, both the Knight thing and that Shump inspired by Prehystoric Isle seem good. Too bad they're not so crazy and original in terms of art, inspiration and design.

Ninja Gaiden 3 had some flaws... that qte thing for deathblows and the lower speed aren't convincing.

DMC is strange. The redesigned Dante looks less emo and a bit postpunk (wich I consider both bad because can't stand nor emo or goth people) and that makes him more "adult" in appearence. But the whole thing "I have mixed blood of demon and angel" is the lamest exscuse for an action game. It is good for a shump (Ikaruga) or a platformer (Outlands) but absolutely stupid in DMC case because this only change your weapons.... demon axe and seraph scyte (what? Now a falx is cool for angels to wield...another stupid gothic-metal stereotype). This game gonna bomb, seriously.

Silent Hill was.... a bitter surprise. The new dub on HD rendition is not good and moving as the original and Downpour is Alan Wake with some elements of Homecoming (to me is crap, but I know that horror style is used to be liked in America). Also big disappointment since HD Zoe has no attention at all and in forums etc. they're only talking about MGS, a game so overexposed I am sick of it.

BTW, replugged my MD, Snes and PCE: gaming paradise.

To sum up things, Japan is no Japan anymore, they want to imitate western styled games so be it: every franchise is nearly-gone. Not because western teams develops it, but because they're no longer loyal to their roots.





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"Re(4):Gamescom announcements" , posted Sat 20 Aug 19:23post reply

quote:
To sum up things, Japan is no Japan anymore, they want to imitate western styled games so be it: every franchise is nearly-gone. Not because western teams develops it, but because they're no longer loyal to their roots.

A better way to say it would be that several of the really good Japanese games stay in Japan and are not localized anymore (ah, that crazy era when even U : Saga was released worldwide).
And if you don't like that, as you look like you don't, I think you live in Europe? Then you should go and play Xenoblade.
And also buy it, because that's the only way to ensure more of its kind would be coming (Along with these other games they announced at GamesCom that I can't remember the name of.





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"Re(5):Gamescom announcements" , posted Sat 20 Aug 22:04post reply

quote:
To sum up things, Japan is no Japan anymore, they want to imitate western styled games so be it: every franchise is nearly-gone. Not because western teams develops it, but because they're no longer loyal to their roots.
A better way to say it would be that several of the really good Japanese games stay in Japan and are not localized anymore (ah, that crazy era when even U : Saga was released worldwide).
And if you don't like that, as you look like you don't, I think you live in Europe? Then you should go and play Xenoblade.
And also buy it, because that's the only way to ensure more of its kind would be coming (Along with these other games they announced at GamesCom that I can't remember the name of.



Yes, Xenoblade, Last Story and Pandora's Tower are all three headed to Europe (I'm Italian btw). Day one for XB to me.

The fact is I'm not so glad about Japanese games anymore, except for a bunch of portable ones.
I don't like how they improve the graphic elements (3D-2D hybrid with sticky physics) and the moe style for character designs (atrocious how most of the games received the moe aestetics like the new .hack).





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"Re(6):Gamescom announcements" , posted Sun 21 Aug 05:35post reply

So, Yuusha 30 Second (Half Minute Hero: Second?) has some radical music that I want to share with you.

My personal favorite.

That one, I believe is from Yoshitaka Hirota, the Shadowhearts Composer.


This is the main theme.

If you don't know who composed that one, you probably don't care.

There's a really nice song by Mitsuda that I haven't been able to find online yet, but the point is, if you don't want the game, you might want the soundtrack.

The list of artists is~
Kenji Ito, Yoko Shimomura, Yasunori Mitsuda, Masashi Hamauzu, Kumi Tanioka, Manabu Namiki, Masaharu Iwata, Yoshitaka Hirota, Michiko Naruke, Noriyuki Iwadare, Haruka Shimotsuki, Hiroyuki Iwatsuki, Motoi Sakuraba, Toshikazu Tanaka, Yoshino Aoki, Maiko Iuchi, Hideki Asanaka and YAMAPY_1

There are some great illustrators involved as well, with some really creepy boss designs. Check out the Grimoire here:
Yay. Monsters.

The game is great, too. I was so satisfied with the first game that I was not convinced that it needed a sequel until I played this one. It's unexpectedly plot intensive, with multiple heroes and really creative level objectives. I thought they had done it all, but I've been pleasantly surprised by their ingenuity. The last mission of the first scenario is one of my favorite game moments ever...


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The main character unwittingly activates the Curse of Destruction HIMSELF and has 30 seconds to find something strong enough to kill him. He makes his way to a crystal in a cave and.....


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"Re(7):Gamescom announcements" , posted Sun 21 Aug 12:54post reply

quote:
So, Yuusha 30 Second (Half Minute Hero: Second?) has some radical music that I want to share with you.

My personal favorite.

That one, I believe is from Yoshitaka Hirota, the Shadowhearts Composer.


This is the main theme.

If you don't know who composed that one, you probably don't care.

There's a really nice song by Mitsuda that I haven't been able to find online yet, but the point is, if you don't want the game, you might want the soundtrack.

The list of artists is~
Kenji Ito, Yoko Shimomura, Yasunori Mitsuda, Masashi Hamauzu, Kumi Tanioka, Manabu Namiki, Masaharu Iwata, Yoshitaka Hirota, Michiko Naruke, Noriyuki Iwadare, Haruka Shimotsuki, Hiroyuki Iwatsuki, Motoi Sakuraba, Toshikazu Tanaka, Yoshino Aoki, Maiko Iuchi, Hideki Asanaka and YAMAPY_1

There are some great illustrators involved as well, with some really creepy boss designs. Check out the Grimoire here:
Yay. Monsters.

The game is great, too. I was so satisfied with the first game that I was not convinced that it needed a sequel until I played this one. It's unexpectedly plot intensive, with multiple heroes and really creative level objectives. I thought they had done it all, but I've been pleasantly surprised by their ingenuity. The last mission of the first scenario is one of my favorite game moments ever...



I've been super excited about this game, having loved all of them going back to the free Flash (?) original. There's a lot of self-consciousness of games that are of this genre present, but not so much that it comes across as ironic or anything.

Glad to hear that Second is good, and THANK YOU for sharing the music selections! I don't remember the OST for the first game being nearly as good, or am I just forgetting? In any event I should be buying this game right now rather than talking about it.






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"Re(7):Gamescom announcements" , posted Sun 21 Aug 14:28:post reply

quote:
if you don't want the game, you might want the soundtrack. The list of artists is~
Kenji Ito, Yoko Shimomura, Yasunori Mitsuda, Masashi Hamauzu, Kumi Tanioka, Manabu Namiki, Masaharu Iwata, Yoshitaka Hirota, Michiko Naruke, Noriyuki Iwadare, Haruka Shimotsuki, Hiroyuki Iwatsuki, Motoi Sakuraba, Toshikazu Tanaka, Yoshino Aoki, Maiko Iuchi, Hideki Asanaka and YAMAPY_1
I, I do! What a pantheon of heroes! The only RPG favorite I'm missing is Nakano Junya (FFX).

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"Re(7):Gamescom announcements" , posted Sun 21 Aug 17:52:post reply

Maou: maybe you should read the list again

quote:

The list of artists is~
Kenji Ito, Yoko Shimomura, Yasunori Mitsuda, Masashi Hamauzu, Kumi Tanioka, Manabu Namiki, Masaharu Iwata, Yoshitaka Hirota, Michiko Naruke, Noriyuki Iwadare, Haruka Shimotsuki, Hiroyuki Iwatsuki, Motoi Sakuraba, Toshikazu Tanaka, Yoshino Aoki, Maiko Iuchi, Hideki Asanaka and YAMAPY_1



That's an incredible collaboration of nostalgic names right there.





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"Re(8):Gamescom announcements" , posted Sun 21 Aug 17:54:post reply

On a random note, the mode select screen from Yuusha 30 Second is so awesome, it made me want to start a topic about awesome UI/title screens in games. Every mode has its own logo and the music is totally rocking.

quote:
What a pantheon of heroes! The only RPG favorites I'm missing are Iwadare Noriyuki (Lunar, Grandia) and Nakano Junya (FFX).



If you read the list again, one of those names might magically appear on it.

EDIT: Gojira beat me to it! Hahaha...

quote:

Glad to hear that Second is good, and THANK YOU for sharing the music selections! I don't remember the OST for the first game being nearly as good, or am I just forgetting? In any event I should be buying this game right now rather than talking about it.


In my opinion, the first soundtrack had some really amazing songs, but it was spotty overall. There are about 10 tracks I could listen to over and over again (the title screen, the last battle theme, Maou's theme, Knight's theme, etc.) but the rest of the soundtrack just didn't stack up in comparison. Second's soundtrack on the other hand, is consistently impressive. Maybe 1 out of every 3 songs doesn't light my fire, but that's nothing to complain about.

I doubt you'll be disappointed in the game if you liked the first one. It has a tremendous amount of fanservice for players of the original (including a number of special items you get from having a save file). It doesn't have the different game types, but it makes up for it with ingenuity in its level design. I wouldn't call them "mini games" but there are a lot more varied things you have to do to complete the scenarios.

My only complaint (off the top of my head) is that sometimes the characters talk too much. I've really enjoyed the plot overall (it's much in depth than the original), but sometimes the characters take twice as long to say something as they need to. The Goddess, as expected, has a lot of useless things to say, as well. Sometimes she's funny, but other times, it just feels like having an annoying, kind of stupid girl friend around making unnecessary commentary about things.

I'm on... I think the end of the 4th scenario? Which might be close to the end of the game? I'm expecting a super badass final scenario to wrap things up.





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"Re(9):Gamescom announcements" , posted Mon 22 Aug 03:36post reply

quote:
If you read the list again, one of those names might magically appear on it.EDIT: Gojira beat me to it! Hahaha...
Dear Polly & Gojira: Thank you for travelling back in time to fix the list so that my boy Iwadare made it on. You have righted the past in a Frog-fighting-Maou-like manner. Either that, or I couldn't see the trees for the forest.





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"Re(10):Gamescom announcements" , posted Mon 22 Aug 07:09post reply

I haven't been up to all the news from Gamescom but one title I noticed is the generically named "Black Knight Sword":

http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2011/08/black_knight_sword_grasshopper.php

I like how it's like a mix of Castlevania and Dynamite Heady, and just like Castlevania 2 Hearts are used as currency.. Given Grasshopper's tendency to underwhelm on the "gameplay" side, it could be a good idea that they are cooperating with another developer (veteran PC developer, Digital Reality, same ones who they are doing Sine Mora with) while they focus on the aesthetic side of things. And it seems that Yamaoka is composing the soundtrack.





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"Re(7):Gamescom announcements" , posted Mon 22 Aug 22:29post reply

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YAMAPY_1


Quite ignorant here, but he's not the Johnny's one, right?





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"Re(8):Something else" , posted Tue 23 Aug 01:21post reply

Hey, has anyone else here tried Bastion yet? It's really beautiful and fills a somewhat Landstalkery need that I hadn't realized I had. Really, the only thing I don't care for is the constant narration, even though I find it somewhat novel. For me it just gets in the way. Plus, for all the gushing I've heard over the OST, I'm not really loving it so far, but maybe it will grow on me.

Still, if you're looking at dropping a few bucks on a great game, this one should be on your list.






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"Re(8):Gamescom announcements" , posted Tue 23 Aug 06:25post reply

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YAMAPY_1

Quite ignorant here, but he's not the Johnny's one, right?



I have no idea who that is. This YAMAPY is an SNK composer. He worked on early Fatal Fury, Art of Fighting and Samurai Spirits titles, I think?

quote:
Hey, has anyone else here tried Bastion yet?


I tried the demo and liked it. I would probably buy it if I didn't have a bunch of other games to play. The narration was a bit invasive and the characters proportions look really silly, but other than that I was pretty impressed. It played very nicely...very smooth.

It kind of reminded me of a Falcom game, partially because the character renders looked similar.





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"Re(9):Something else" , posted Tue 23 Aug 15:54:post reply

quote:
Hey, has anyone else here tried Bastion yet? It's really beautiful and fills a somewhat Landstalkery need that I hadn't realized I had. Really, the only thing I don't care for is the constant narration, even though I find it somewhat novel. For me it just gets in the way. Plus, for all the gushing I've heard over the OST, I'm not really loving it so far, but maybe it will grow on me.

Still, if you're looking at dropping a few bucks on a great game, this one should be on your list.



If you don't own a 360 of PS3 (like me--but not for long) you can still get the game on Steam:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/107100

It's all 2d so it's pretty low spec. Should run super smooth on any computer made in the last 5 years.

I agree that the character's proportions are pretty awkward (though they work out for the animations in the game) and that the music is just ok, but considering that it's a teeny tiny indie game, I think it's very impressive and worth supporting.






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"Re(10):Something else" , posted Wed 24 Aug 01:17post reply

quote:

If you don't own a 360 of PS3 (like me--but not for long)

Hur, I thought that with SFIII Online coming it might not be long.
quote:

It's all 2d so it's pretty low spec. Should run super smooth on any computer made in the last 5 years.

I agree that the character's proportions are pretty awkward (though they work out for the animations in the game) and that the music is just ok, but considering that it's a teeny tiny indie game, I think it's very impressive and worth supporting.


The music just isn't to my taste but I wouldn't say it's especially bad. The narration continues to irritate me, but it's nothing that mute won't solve.

Still, the game continues to impress me-- the level design is good, the number of customizations is high but not prohibitively so and it's the kind of thing that appeals to me.

As for the designs, I don't love the proportions of the main character, but the style and the character and environment design is pretty nice. On some level I wish there were a few more enemy designs. Maybe later there are and I'm just being impatient!






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"Re(2):Re(10):Something else" , posted Wed 24 Aug 19:18post reply

Has anyone else tried out the Type-0 demo? You can get it on the Japanese PS Store, or on the official page. It has four missions and hidden costumes (for the actual game, not the demo) for all the characters.

It's insanely good. I highly recommend checking it out. The only downside is that the controls might be a little confusing if your Japanese is poor.

I have played so many action RPGs that are too boring to be fun as action games and shallow to be gratifying as RPGS. Very few games get it right, but when they do, it's amazing. I'd be thrilled if this was the future for Final Fantasy.

Also...

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Bastion soundtrack


I actually think it's a good soundtrack, but it's been ridiculously overhyped. I want to say "it's not THAT great" whereas without the hype, I would probably say it was at least moderately awesome.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Something else" , posted Wed 24 Aug 19:49post reply

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Has anyone else tried out the Type-0 demo? You can get it on the Japanese PS Store, or on the official page. It has four missions and hidden costumes (for the actual game, not the demo) for all the characters.

It's insanely good. I highly recommend checking it out. The only downside is that the controls might be a little confusing if your Japanese is poor.

I have played so many action RPGs that are too boring to be fun as action games and shallow to be gratifying as RPGS. Very few games get it right, but when they do, it's amazing. I'd be thrilled if this was the future for Final Fantasy.



What if I have no idea of Japanese at all? It's still enjoyable in terms of gameplay or a complete mess if you are not reading the text? It sounds silly applied to an rpg but the overall gameplay is linked to text comprehension?

Also, glad to find good opinions on Bastion, will get this after a price drop, imho is still a bit overpriced (but the cost worth better this experience than others).
Btw, any impression on Bloodrayne Betrayal (also, overpriced 2D game)?





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"Re(4):Re(10):Something else" , posted Wed 24 Aug 19:56post reply

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What if I have no idea of Japanese at all? It's still enjoyable in terms of gameplay or a complete mess if you are not reading the text? It sounds silly applied to an rpg but the overall gameplay is linked to text comprehension?



It's an okay action game, even with no Japanese comprehension. It's just less awesome than it would be normally. I mean, it's free, so I'd still recommend it.

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"Re(5):Re(10):Something else" , posted Thu 25 Aug 00:29:post reply

Sega announces a Rhythm+Layton-ish game: "Rhythm Phantom Thief R: Inheritance of the Emperor Napoleon". Its starting to look like the successor to Space Channel 5.

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If you don't own a 360 of PS3 (like me--but not for long) you can still get the game on Steam:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/107100


Thanks. I'm one of those people with a not-very high spec PC, which is why services like OnLive are a big help playing newer titles.

Edit: On the topick of Bloodrayne Betrayal, Wayforward is also working on Aliens: Infestation (comes out September), which is essentially Aliens franchise + Metroidvania with permadeath.

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"Re(3):Re(10):Something else" , posted Thu 25 Aug 02:12post reply

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Has anyone else tried out the Type-0 demo? You can get it on the Japanese PS Store, or on the official page. It has four missions and hidden costumes (for the actual game, not the demo) for all the characters.

It's insanely good. I highly recommend checking it out. The only downside is that the controls might be a little confusing if your Japanese is poor.

I have played so many action RPGs that are too boring to be fun as action games and shallow to be gratifying as RPGS. Very few games get it right, but when they do, it's amazing. I'd be thrilled if this was the future for Final Fantasy.

Also...

Bastion soundtrack

I actually think it's a good soundtrack, but it's been ridiculously overhyped. I want to say "it's not THAT great" whereas without the hype, I would probably say it was at least moderately awesome.



I wonder how it compares in feel to Crisis Core or Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep.

I actually think that the best action RPG I have played in the past while is League of Legends.





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"Re(4):Re(10):Something else" , posted Thu 25 Aug 06:51post reply

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I wonder how it compares in feel to Crisis Core or Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep.



I didn't play Birth By Sleep, but it is roughly comparable to Kingdom Hearts. To put it in Crisis Core terms...well, it's been a while since I've played, but it's like a faster CC with 10 characters on teams of 3 and they all play differently? The environments are a lot better, too...so if you liked Crisis Core, I wouldn't miss this one.

Oh, and it's mission based like CC, but it also has an overhead map with dungeons. The missions in the demo were really impressive, varied and cinematic. It's wishful thinking to hope that every mission in the actual game will be that good, but I have high hopes all the same.





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Hou. I'll believe it when I see a something official though.






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Hou. I'll believe it when I see a something official though.


According to Mikami, Kamiya was just trolling.
But there's still a week or two until TGS... I'm just hoping it's not "And we added fan-favourite Bayonnetta to Max Anarchy !".





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According to Mikami, Kamiya was just trolling.
But there's still a week or two until TGS... I'm just hoping it's not "And we added fan-favourite Bayonnetta to Max Anarchy !".

As frightening as that sounds I could almost see that happening.

Speaking of sequels, Oneechanbara returns with a new game and a somewhat NSFW page. Many Japanese games of late have been skittish when it comes to sex and violence, and have tried to tone things down to match whatever the current socially accepted norms appear to be. Oneechanbara, however, ain't havin' none of that crap and is as sleazy and violent as it has ever been. I respect that the series is honest and comfortable with what it is.

This is also the second game to feature a girl who fights zombies with a chainsaw. People complain about there being too many FPS games on the market but are there now going to be a glut of zombie fighting chainsaw girl games? When did that become a popular fetish?





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"Re(3):Hmmn!" , posted Fri 2 Sep 09:01post reply

So, what had been rumored over the past few days is official: One Piece Kaizoku Musou is coming. I'm almost certain to buy it, even if it never makes it to the US, since I have a congenital condition that causes me to buy Musou games.






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"Re(4):Hmmn!" , posted Fri 2 Sep 09:19post reply

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So, what had been rumored over the past few days is official: One Piece Kaizoku Musou is coming. I'm almost certain to buy it, even if it never makes it to the US, since I have a congenital condition that causes me to buy Musou games.



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"Re(4):Hmmn!" , posted Fri 2 Sep 10:54post reply

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So, what had been rumored over the past few days is official: One Piece Kaizoku Musou is coming. I'm almost certain to buy it, even if it never makes it to the US, since I have a congenital condition that causes me to buy Musou games.



Sorry, can't miss an opportunity to hate on Koei.

Before this was announced, I thought "we have this ridiculous conglomeration of 4 companies, but somehow I have a feeling the one that I hate (Koei) is going to be the only one actually involved in the game."

I love Koei's business strategy. They will do anything to make the same game over and over again. It isn't "how can we innovate" or "what new games can we make?" but rather "how can we get away with making the same Musou game yet again?". The answer is obvious. Keep getting licenses that are so strong that the game will sell whether it's good or not.

See, I'm being fair here. I'm saying "whether it's good or not" instead of "no matter how bad it sucks." On another positive note, I love the DLC costumes for the latest Sangoku Musou.


ALSO ALSO!

If you like One Piece, Gigant Battle is quite good. It's a hugely addictive, sufficiently improved Jump Super/Ultimate Stars. I didn't mind raving about it, because I didn't know how many One Piece fans the board had. Even if the game stunk, it'd still be a blast just to see all the sprite animations. I don't know if I'll bother with the sequel, though. I put a lot of time into the original, which had a massive amount of content. Since the sequel seems more like an add-on to a game that already had it all, I'm not sure if it's worth the time investment.





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"Re(5):Hmmn!" , posted Fri 2 Sep 12:06post reply

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Sorry, can't miss an opportunity to hate on Koei.

Before this was announced, I thought "we have this ridiculous conglomeration of 4 companies, but somehow I have a feeling the one that I hate (Koei) is going to be the only one actually involved in the game."

I love Koei's business strategy. They will do anything to make the same game over and over again. It isn't "how can we innovate" or "what new games can we make?" but rather "how can we get away with making the same Musou game yet again?". The answer is obvious. Keep getting licenses that are so strong that the game will sell whether it's good or not.


No, I completely agree! Musou games are the ultimate in no-substance, ultra-repetetive gaming. Yet for some reason I can play them over and over. They're a huge guilty pleasure for me! Which is strange because otherwise I'm pretty selective in my gaming choices. They're... like comfort food for me in a weird kind of way. I'm completely at a loss to explain it.


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If you like One Piece, Gigant Battle is quite good. It's a hugely addictive, sufficiently improved Jump Super/Ultimate Stars. I didn't mind raving about it, because I didn't know how many One Piece fans the board had. Even if the game stunk, it'd still be a blast just to see all the sprite animations. I don't know if I'll bother with the sequel, though. I put a lot of time into the original, which had a massive amount of content. Since the sequel seems more like an add-on to a game that already had it all, I'm not sure if it's worth the time investment.


Hum, you had me at the "Jump Super/Ultimate Stars" part. I should also note that I love One Piece, so in the future mention away! This one I will have to pick up I think! I'd also love to hear any other details about it you would like to provide. I'm going to go look up the cast list now to make sure my favorites are all in!

After really enjoying the Jump games I had avoided a lot of the resulting clones over the past few years after getting burned on a really bad (and expensive!) Naruto one a few years back.






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"Re(6):Hmmn!" , posted Fri 2 Sep 12:42post reply

I don't think any particular Musou game is bad, I'm just disgusted at the handling of the series as a whole. I'm a 3 Kingdoms fan, so I used to play the series quite excitedly.

Ramble ramble ramble...

RRGH! That reminds me! I hope Sega does a port of their new Sengoku Taisen game. Sangokushi Taisen was one of my favorite DS games. I remembered one of the fantastic artists that worked on it because he did some designs for Yuusha 30: Second.

I really like this one.

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Hum, you had me at the "Jump Super/Ultimate Stars" part. I should also note that I love One Piece, so in the future mention away! This one I will have to pick up I think! I'd also love to hear any other details about it you would like to provide. I'm going to go look up the cast list now to make sure my favorites are all in!



It's the same team that made Jump Superstars, so it's like a "One Piece only" sequel almost. If you liked those games and you like One Piece, I can't recommend it enough. Or maybe you should wait for the sequel?

Anyway, it uses the same "mission based" unlocking system with a super huge set of things to do. I really enjoyed seeing which characters would pop up next.

Although the playable cast is only so big, I found them to be a little better balanced and well-thought out than the Jump Superstars characters. It was fun trying to figure out what each move was good for, as some of them seem pretty far out and hard to utilize at first (especially with someone like Usopp). The addition of super moves was nice as well.

I probably put 60 hours into the game, unlocking every last thing. I can't speak for the multiplayer, though, since my friends are lame and we're interested.





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"Re(7):Hmmn!" , posted Fri 2 Sep 16:10post reply

I'm just really hoping it will be comparably fun. I've seen so many One Piece licensed games that deserved to go straight to the shitter. Even if it's just another "boring" Musou game I really want it to be at least enjoyable on the shallowest level where Musou games can be appreciated.

I'd heard that Gigant Battle didn't have all of the core cast playable. Is that true? I mean yeah I know most of them weren't even involved in the events that the game is based on but even so, that's kind of a deal-breaker for me.





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I'm just really hoping it will be comparably fun. I've seen so many One Piece licensed games that deserved to go straight to the shitter. Even if it's just another "boring" Musou game I really want it to be at least enjoyable on the shallowest level where Musou games can be appreciated.

I'd heard that Gigant Battle didn't have all of the core cast playable. Is that true? I mean yeah I know most of them weren't even involved in the events that the game is based on but even so, that's kind of a deal-breaker for me.



Oh yeah, I think compared to other One Piece games, Kaizoku Musou is probably going to be pretty great. Compared to licensed games in general, I imagine it'll stack up nicely. There have been a handful of good Jump games, but a massive massive pile of stinkers.

I'm biased against most One Piece stuff right off the bat because I hate the anime designs, and the games never look like the manga. Gigant Battle looks good enough though, I think.

But yes, you can't use Franky, Brook or Robin (except as assists). I think they wanted to include a lot of oddball characters, so they didn't make the cut. Wait for the sequel, maybe? Actually, now that I'm building up a list of characters I want to play as, I might go for the new one after all. They captured the characters very well in Gigant Battle. Magellan was a surprise favorite.

Speaking of limited casts, I wonder if Kaizoku Musou will only cover early parts of the story. I'm sure they're thinking in terms of sequels, so it may be 3 games down the line before all my favorites are included.

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"Re(9):Hmmn!" , posted Fri 2 Sep 19:19post reply

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Oh yeah, I think compared to other One Piece games, Kaizoku Musou is probably going to be pretty great.

I remember having fun on the first Wii game in 2007, despite very limited knowledge of the series. The two-parts sequel seems to fit the same mold, the 3DS game is an improved compilation of those two parts, and the Wonderswan Color fighting game is the origin of the whole JSS/Gigant design philosophy.

(All those games are made by Ganbarion, a company which I think has a much more reliable track record than Omega Force, by the way.)

Even the GBA baseball game is actually quite entertaining. That leaves only... A few PS2 games released a long time ago? Maybe some GBA/GC titles I don't remember? Where does the image that One Piece gets bad games come from? Or are those games a poor effort in terms of fan service / fidelity to the original material (I can't judge since I never got into the series)? And how do the recent Musou games, especially the universally panned Hokuto Musou, give this game a huge benefit of the doubt?





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"Re(10):Hmmn!" , posted Fri 2 Sep 21:25post reply

Is the latest Sangoku Musou any good? Keeping in mind that the last 2 I played (excluding Hokuto Musou) were Gundam Musou 2 and Sengoku Musou 3, both of which I hated.

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I remember having fun on the first Wii game in 2007, despite very limited knowledge of the series. The two-parts sequel seems to fit the same mold, the 3DS game is an improved compilation of those two parts, and the Wonderswan Color fighting game is the origin of the whole JSS/Gigant design philosophy.

(All those games are made by Ganbarion, a company which I think has a much more reliable track record than Omega Force, by the way.)

Even the GBA baseball game is actually quite entertaining. That leaves only... A few PS2 games released a long time ago? Maybe some GBA/GC titles I don't remember? Where does the image that One Piece gets bad games come from? Or are those games a poor effort in terms of fan service / fidelity to the original material (I can't judge since I never got into the series)? And how do the recent Musou games, especially the universally panned Hokuto Musou, give this game a huge benefit of the doubt?



I should've said "compared to MOST OP games"?

The Wonderswan game was part of the Grand Battle line, none of which I cared for. They were a bit like Gigant Battle, if Gigant Battle was aggressively mediocre.

There were 2 Grand Battles and 2 RPGs on PS, A Grand Battle, an action game on PS2 and Gamecube, a Gamecube exclusive party game, a couple gameboy color games, like 4 GBA games, the Wonderswan games, a 3D/2D fighter for DS, Gigant Battle and the Wii games.

At least 20 games, maybe 25?

I haven't played all of them, of course (I don't even own a Wonderswan). I've looked into many of them and was immediately turned away. There may have been a hidden gem in there (you said the baseball game was good), but you can usually tell a stinker license game just by looking at it.

I thought the GC party game (Treasure Battle) was a good idea with poor execution. It played a little like Powerstone, but with treasure grabbing being the goal. There were climbing/platforming stages as well. If you got 4 One Piece fans together, you could have some fun with it, but I wouldn't say it was actually a good game.

I didn't play the Wii games, but they looked good for license games.

So I wouldn't say One Piece doesn't have any good games, but I think, like many series, it has a vast array of decidedly mediocre ones. But you know...that's my opinion. Lots of people like those Bleach PSP games and I think they're irredeemably awful. Also, I'm biased against non-manga One Piece anything, as I said, because I don't like the anime. Rather, I dislike it.

I think Kaizoku Musou stands a great chance of being much better than everything but the recent Ganbarion games...even if it's only as good as a mediocre Musou game.

I didn't realize that Hokuto Musou was disliked. I know some people (like myself) were turned off by its similarity to other Musou games and its kind of sluggish combat, but for the people who bought it, I think it was considered a good Hokuto game? I seem to hear a lot of "Yeah, it's a Musou game, but somehow I had a lot of fun with it" sort of things. Like "it's not really good, but it's good enough." That's the sort of thing I'm expecting from Kaizoku Musou. I'm hoping it'll be less stiff than a lot of Musou games by virtue of the source material.





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"Re(9):Hmmn!" , posted Sat 3 Sep 00:47post reply

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But yes, you can't use Franky, Brook or Robin (except as assists). I think they wanted to include a lot of oddball characters, so they didn't make the cut. Wait for the sequel, maybe? Actually, now that I'm building up a list of characters I want to play as, I might go for the new one after all. They captured the characters very well in Gigant Battle. Magellan was a surprise favorite.

Speaking of limited casts, I wonder if Kaizoku Musou will only cover early parts of the story.

After reading up a bit on Gigant Battle, I think I'll wait for the sequel-- it's only a few months off, and I'm swamped with games to begin with. But I'll definitely pick it up since allegedly there will be 40 playable characters!

Also, I suspect Kaizoku Musou will be from more recent arcs, at least based on the art for Luffy that's been shown. But who knows!






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"Re(2):Re(10):Hmmn!" , posted Sat 3 Sep 04:40post reply

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I didn't realize that Hokuto Musou was disliked. I know some people (like myself) were turned off by its similarity to other Musou games and its kind of sluggish combat, but for the people who bought it, I think it was considered a good Hokuto game? I seem to hear a lot of "Yeah, it's a Musou game, but somehow I had a lot of fun with it" sort of things. Like "it's not really good, but it's good enough." That's the sort of thing I'm expecting from Kaizoku Musou. I'm hoping it'll be less stiff than a lot of Musou games by virtue of the source material.

I love the Hokuto game but "good enough" is probably the best description of the title. The game had moments that were great fun flanked by aspects that were tedious and not very well put together. That's also a fair summary of the HnK franchise so the game was a far better representation of the license than the detractors were willing to admit.

The news of this One Piece game has reminded me that I'm about ten years behind in my reading of the manga. Are there any specific arcs I should read or should I simply flip through whatever volumes are avaliable at my local library?





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"Re(3):Re(10):Hmmn!" , posted Sat 3 Sep 04:57post reply

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The news of this One Piece game has reminded me that I'm about ten years behind in my reading of the manga. Are there any specific arcs I should read or should I simply flip through whatever volumes are avaliable at my local library?


I had to go look through my old volumes to see what the chapters are where it starts to get really good-- I'd start with volume 34 (Water 7 arc) of the tankōbon releases, but that's just because I'm a big fan of a certain character that was introduced thereabouts, and the CP9 arc that starts shortly after that has (in my opinion) some of the best blocked fight scenes EVER in manga. You could also start at 50 if you don't want to go that far back (US version tankōbon are EXPENSIVE!) but if you don't want to be confused, I would not skip forward much further than that since... ah, I guess it's a spoiler, so just trust me on that. Or if you want it spoiled...

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
there is a time skip that takes place starting in volume 61.

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Okay, go to it. I hate to rant so, but One Piece is a personal favorite, and like the best manga, it's only gotten better over time.






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"Re(4):Re(10):Hmmn!" , posted Sat 3 Sep 09:17post reply

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I had to go look through my old volumes to see what the chapters are where it starts to get really good-- I'd start with volume 34 (Water 7 arc) of the tankōbon releases, but that's just because I'm a big fan of a certain character that was introduced thereabouts, and the CP9 arc that starts shortly after that has (in my opinion) some of the best blocked fight scenes EVER in manga.


I don't know where you (meaning Ishmael) left off, but I would agree that the start of the Water 7 arc is where it gets super good. volume 34 is a good place to start, but volume 33 is actually one of my favorites in the whole series. It's a one volume fight with a completely irrelevant character, but it's tons of fun. (I still wonder if Oda got Foxy's design from Count Chocula, or if it's just a coincidence.)

I would NOT recommend skipping hugely ahead. Missing out on any material 34+ would just be robbing yourself. You'd be better off starting there, and not finishing than giving up the best parts of the series. "Getting caught up" is meaningless if it comes at that cost.

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Okay, go to it. I hate to rant so, but One Piece is a personal favorite, and like the best manga, it's only gotten better over time.


It certainly does get better and better, but think it's just about reached maximum capacity...hahaha. There was a particular chapter in the Impel Down arc, where I felt like Oda blew the roof off manga in general and said "You've been aiming for the ceiling when you should've been aiming for the stars." That sounds like gross hyperbole, but that's exactly how I felt when I read it.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Hmmn!" , posted Sat 3 Sep 12:31post reply

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I don't know where you (meaning Ishmael) left off, but I would agree that the start of the Water 7 arc is where it gets super good. volume 34 is a good place to start, but volume 33 is actually one of my favorites in the whole series. It's a one volume fight with a completely irrelevant character, but it's tons of fun. (I still wonder if Oda got Foxy's design from Count Chocula, or if it's just a coincidence.)


Ah, that's true-- the Davy Back Fight mini-arc is excellent! I had forgotten it! Hopefully someday Oda will bring back Foxy for a cameo.

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t certainly does get better and better, but think it's just about reached maximum capacity...hahaha. There was a particular chapter in the Impel Down arc, where I felt like Oda blew the roof off manga in general and said "You've been aiming for the ceiling when you should've been aiming for the stars." That sounds like gross hyperbole, but that's exactly how I felt when I read it.

You've got me curious-- what chapter are you referring to? That was a great arc, I'll agree!






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