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"Fighting Game Thread 2023" , posted Mon 23 Jan 00:30post reply

New year, new thread!

Granblue Fantasy: Versus is getting a sequel. I guess the franchise itself is still doing well, since the initial Versus game was so hobbled by the initial outbreak of COVID-19 that it never found a long-term audience as a fighting game. Good to see it getting another chance.

More importantly, the game now features the game within a game, Grand Bruise Legends. Chibi versions of the characters will compete in adorable Fall Guys style battles. This mode will not only help the game sell 10 million copies, but it will become the tournament standard instead of that silly fighting mode.






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"Re(1):Fighting Game Thread 2023" , posted Tue 24 Jan 21:07post reply

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New year, new thread!

Granblue Fantasy: Versus is getting a sequel. I guess the franchise itself is still doing well, since the initial Versus game was so hobbled by the initial outbreak of COVID-19 that it never found a long-term audience as a fighting game. Good to see it getting another chance.

More importantly, the game now features the game within a game, Grand Bruise Legends. Chibi versions of the characters will compete in adorable Fall Guys style battles. This mode will not only help the game sell 10 million copies, but it will become the tournament standard instead of that silly fighting mode.



Whoa, this Grand Bruise Legends mode looks very fun! If the fighting game itself isn't enough incentive for buying the sequel, this mode definitely is!

Arc System Works seems to be establishing itself as the main developer to deliver good fighting games with third-party licenses, isn't it? Granblue Fantasy: Versus, Dragon Ball FighterZ, Persona 4 Arena... hopefully all this extra work won't make them forget to make a new Guilty Gear or BlazBlue game from time to time, though (then again, I think GG Strive still has two DLC characters to be announced and delivered, so it seems they are still taking good care of their own franchises).





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"Re(2):Fighting Game Thread 2023" , posted Wed 25 Jan 04:59post reply

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Arc System Works seems to be establishing itself as the main developer to deliver good fighting games with third-party licenses, isn't it? Granblue Fantasy: Versus, Dragon Ball FighterZ, Persona 4 Arena... hopefully all this extra work won't make them forget to make a new Guilty Gear or BlazBlue game from time to time, though (then again, I think GG Strive still has two DLC characters to be announced and delivered, so it seems they are still taking good care of their own franchises).



One shouldn't forget that Arc System Works also delivered the bare bones DNF Duel and the even more disappointing Kill la Kill IF.







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"Re(3):Fighting Game Thread 2023" , posted Wed 25 Jan 06:23post reply

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One shouldn't forget that Arc System Works also delivered the bare bones DNF Duel and the even more disappointing Kill la Kill IF.

Sadly true! I guess it all comes down to the resources allotted to each invididual title's "fiefdom." The attention and resources eventually given to SFV contrast a lot with...what was it called again? Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite??





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"Re(3):Fighting Game Thread 2023" , posted Wed 25 Jan 07:21post reply

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Arc System Works seems to be establishing itself as the main developer to deliver good fighting games with third-party licenses, isn't it? Granblue Fantasy: Versus, Dragon Ball FighterZ, Persona 4 Arena... hopefully all this extra work won't make them forget to make a new Guilty Gear or BlazBlue game from time to time, though (then again, I think GG Strive still has two DLC characters to be announced and delivered, so it seems they are still taking good care of their own franchises).


One shouldn't forget that Arc System Works also delivered the bare bones DNF Duel and the even more disappointing Kill la Kill IF.



Oh well... then again, it's not as if other notorious fighting game developers hadn't delivered some pretty bad games themselves, sometimes having even more resources for the development (I'm looking at you, Capcom, SNK and Bamco).





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"Re(3):Fighting Game Thread 2023" , posted Wed 25 Jan 23:54post reply

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One shouldn't forget that Arc System Works also delivered the bare bones DNF Duel and the even more disappointing Kill la Kill IF.


I think the worst part about these games is that they were not only undercooked but were rather plain and never reached the heights of Basara X or Hokuto no Ken. Making a bad game is one thing, but don't make a boring game!





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"Re(1):Fighting Game Thread 2023" , posted Thu 26 Jan 09:12post reply

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New year, new thread!

Is it perhaps time for a 2023 inaugural lagfest??!!!?

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"Here Comes a New JOJO Challenger!" , posted Mon 30 Jan 21:04:post reply

Rudol von Stroheim is the second DLC character.

The trailer seems to indicate that there are two more characters to complete the roster (that is, assuming Bamco doesn't decide to do a Season 2 - but considering this game's age, I doubt they will). Personally, I'd like to see Yasuho and Wonder of U and its user (I won't put the name of the user because I'm not sure if everyone here already knows the identity and that's a major mystery in JoJolion that I don't want to spoil for those that don't know), just so that each Part of JJBA would have its protagonist, deuteragonist and main antagonist in the roster (remembering that no, Joshu is not JoJolion's deuteragonist).

But at the same time, I'm already very satisfied that FF and Risotto were added to the game, so at this point, Bamco can choose the worst possible characters and that's okay for me.

EDIT: another cool possibility would be to add one of DIO's sons from Stone Ocean... with the other two sons acting as his assists (like Pesci to Prosciutto), so that they could meet their father and their fourth brother Giorno in-game. Then again, that wouldn't make much sense, as the three brothers aren't close partners like Prosciutto and Pesci, and if I remember correctly they don't even care about (and barely know) each other.





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"Re(1):Here Comes a New JOJO Challenger!" , posted Thu 2 Feb 03:47post reply

Ah! I had started to forget about the game. You really can't release a game with such netcode in 2022... Even on the Japanese side, things have been quiet since the release of Weather. I've seen some people talking about datamined characters, but they don't seem particularly reliable or consistent (I've seen Fungami Yuya's name from part 4 being thrown around as the second DLC character, which evidently isn't the case).
I also forgot Weather was outside of the season pass! That's strangely nice of Bamco, but welcome if that allows for two more characters. I haven't checked yet if Stroheim comes with a balance pass that would reign in the most powerful characters such as Narancia or F.F., although maybe the game doesn't have a strong enough player base to determine exactly what kind of balance adjustments should be made?

As for Stroheim: good for him! I don't care at all about the character, but he has the potential for some really unique moves, and also the voice actor is having the time of his life and his enthusiasm is contagious.







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"Re(2):Here Comes a New Blonde Challenger!" , posted Mon 6 Feb 23:59post reply

Nina Williams and many, many different auras and hit effects are coming to Tekken 8.

Nina and her awful outfits have never been a favorite of mine so this trailer didn't thrill me too much. At least the fight is taking place in a public restroom that blew up, so I'm glad that perennial fight location is back for another generation.

The new mechanics for Tekken seem really aggressive. I know they haven't revealed anything about defense or movement, but the idea that one of your active attack meters goes up when you are pummeling your opponent makes it feel like this game is all about pushing forward.

But whatever the new defense and neutral are, I just hope the way the characters move around the screen looks better this time out. The wavedashing that Tekken characters do to maximize movement looks terrible and is far too complex a movement just for getting your character around the screen. Hopefully the Tekken producers have been thinking about how the characters move during footsies the way SF6 has so the Tekken cast no longer has to awkwardly shuffle about.





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"Guilty of delaying new releases" , posted Fri 10 Feb 21:33:post reply

It seems there will be a short delay in the release of the next DLC character and stage for Guilty Gear Strive.

That makes me wonder... who could the final two DLC fighters be? I suppose A.B.A. would be a nice choice, due both to her interesting playstyle and to give her story some closure. Then again, there are other possibilities, like Dizzy, Johnny, Slayer (all three of them being fan-favorite characters), Elphelt (so that all the Valentine sisters are together once again) or President Gabriel (he was already shown as a great fighter but was never playable before). Some people are also betting on Delilah; personally, I wouldn't choose her, but Bedman was interesting in Xrd, so maybe she could be interesting, too.

Also, I wonder if, after the final two DLC characters are released (and in the case that Arc System Works decides not to make a Season 3), there will be an extra Story Mode chapter focused on Testament, Bridget and these two DLC fighters, just like they did with Baiken's chapter. Even though, in my opinion, Strive's story (both the main one and the Extra chapter) feels quite underwhelming when compared to Xrd's and its two upgraded re-releases.





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"Re(1):Here Comes a New JOJO Challenger!" , posted Tue 7 Mar 17:02post reply

I seriously can't believe this is real.

When I dropped this as my obscure pick for the game like a year ago, I figured it had absolutely no chance of coming true. I mean, I was sincere but... is there anyone, anywhere, in the entire Jojo fandom that even thought to ask for this character besides me?

I feel like I'm in a dream here. This is freaking wild.







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"Re(2):Here Comes a New JOJO Challenger!" , posted Tue 7 Mar 19:48post reply

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I seriously can't believe this is real.

When I dropped this as my obscure pick for the game like a year ago, I figured it had absolutely no chance of coming true. I mean, I was sincere but... is there anyone, anywhere, in the entire Jojo fandom that even thought to ask for this character besides me?

I feel like I'm in a dream here. This is freaking wild.


Oh wow! That's a great addition!
I always wanted to see what they could do with him, since they managed to do Shigecchi and I'd expect them to face the same design issues.
Also, more new characters while there are still people to port from EOH means the chances for a season 2 are still there somewhere.

And also, yeah, if Keichô is on the table, the wish lists can REALLY expand to even more obscure picks! Bring in Erina Joestar and that weird stone-dog that appears for 2 panels in part 8!





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"Re(3):Here Comes a New JOJO Challenger!" , posted Wed 8 Mar 04:51post reply

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I seriously can't believe this is real.

When I dropped this as my obscure pick for the game like a year ago, I figured it had absolutely no chance of coming true. I mean, I was sincere but... is there anyone, anywhere, in the entire Jojo fandom that even thought to ask for this character besides me?

I feel like I'm in a dream here. This is freaking wild.

Oh wow! That's a great addition!
I always wanted to see what they could do with him, since they managed to do Shigecchi and I'd expect them to face the same design issues.
Also, more new characters while there are still people to port from EOH means the chances for a season 2 are still there somewhere.

And also, yeah, if Keichô is on the table, the wish lists can REALLY expand to even more obscure picks! Bring in Erina Joestar and that weird stone-dog that appears for 2 panels in part 8!



He had a cool power, but died quite early (and it's odd how Okuyasu pretty much forgets him afterwards, only remembering him when Akira reveals himself).

Personally, I wouldn't choose Keichô, as Part 4 already has a large number of characters in the game in comparison to Parts 1-2 and 6-8. But he looks cool, so I'm not going to complain about his inclusion, either.

As for obscure characters that could/should be included... I guess I'd choose Part 3's Midler with that design she had in the Capcom game (yes, I know I'm being a hypocrite for saying that I wouldn't choose Keichô because Part 4 already has many characters when Part 3 also has lots of characters in this game). Part 2's Santana would be nice, too. Or that duo of deceased heroes that Dio resurrected as his slaves in Part 1 (fighting as a single character, like Prosciutto & Pesci).





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"Re(4):Here Comes a New JOJO Challenger!" , posted Wed 8 Mar 20:17post reply

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As for obscure characters that could/should be included... I guess I'd choose Part 3's Midler with that design she had in the Capcom game
I'd be cool with bringing back everyone from the Capcom game with their cool movesets to be honest. But then the people clamoring for more part 6/7/8 would go ballistic I guess.

Honestly the game is still fun to mess around offline and the new characters have been fun and well realized (except Ghiacco, I really don't get what you're supposed to do with him), so they could add anyone and I'd gladly boot the game again for a week.





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"Re(5):Here Comes a New JOJO Challenger!" , posted Thu 9 Mar 21:47post reply

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As for obscure characters that could/should be included... I guess I'd choose Part 3's Midler with that design she had in the Capcom game I'd be cool with bringing back everyone from the Capcom game with their cool movesets to be honest. But then the people clamoring for more part 6/7/8 would go ballistic I guess.

Honestly the game is still fun to mess around offline and the new characters have been fun and well realized (except Ghiacco, I really don't get what you're supposed to do with him), so they could add anyone and I'd gladly boot the game again for a week.



Aren't most of them already included in ASBR, anyway?

In Midler's case, it would be a way to solidify her Capcom version as her "canon" appearance (it's still shocking that the anime developers didn't use that design for her, considering that Araki himself designed it).

Anyway, pretty much all my favorite JJBA characters are already in this game; after Risotto's inclusion, the final DLC character could even be Joshu or Part 6's Jotaro (or Gappy's sister who looks pretty much like a female Jotaro) that I wouldn't mind.





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"Re(6):Here Comes a New JOJO Challenger!" , posted Fri 10 Mar 00:43post reply

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Aren't most of them already included in ASBR, anyway?

Well, Debo, Midler, Alesy and all 3 versions of Anubis had different and interesting move sets.
Yellow Temperance wasn't particularly interesting, but I guess there's a way to make it interesting? Maybe?

Midler, Debo, Chaka-Anubis and Polnaref-Anubis at least would be cool additions. But many people would be very upset if we had a season 2 that was full-part 3 (adding N'dour for good measure!).

More reasonnably, if you count Weather in the first season pass, and the last character is from part 1/3/7/8, it would be a good and varied package after Risotto (5), Weather (6), Stroheim (2) and Keichô (4).
Season 2 could be a similar wide spread with characters from 3, 5, 7 and 9 for example.





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"Re(7):Here Comes a New JOJO Challenger!" , posted Fri 10 Mar 01:38post reply

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Aren't most of them already included in ASBR, anyway?
Well, Debo, Midler, Alesy and all 3 versions of Anubis had different and interesting move sets.
Yellow Temperance wasn't particularly interesting, but I guess there's a way to make it interesting? Maybe?

Midler, Debo, Chaka-Anubis and Polnaref-Anubis at least would be cool additions. But many people would be very upset if we had a season 2 that was full-part 3 (adding N'dour for good measure!).

More reasonnably, if you count Weather in the first season pass, and the last character is from part 1/3/7/8, it would be a good and varied package after Risotto (5), Weather (6), Stroheim (2) and Keichô (4).
Season 2 could be a similar wide spread with characters from 3, 5, 7 and 9 for example.



That would be great. But is there any chance for this game to get a Season 2?





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"GG Strive news" , posted Mon 13 Mar 07:12post reply

Okay, so the next DLC character is... Bedman?

Other than that, there are indications that "That Man" will be the final DLC character... of Season 2. Because yes, there will be a Season 3. That means, more chances for A.B.A. to be rejected in favor of other characters.

While I'm not very well-versed in the Guilty Gear series, it's nice to see Arc System Works is still supporting it. Once Strive is over (which fortunately won't be happening until 2024 - or even later, in case it gets a Season 4), I wonder what the next step will be... Guilty Gear vs. BlazBlue, perhaps?

(...nah, their mechanics probably wouldn't mesh well together)





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"Re(1):GG Strive news" , posted Mon 13 Mar 09:13post reply

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While I'm not very well-versed in the Guilty Gear series, it's nice to see Arc System Works is still supporting it. Once Strive is over (which fortunately won't be happening until 2024 - or even later, in case it gets a Season 4), I wonder what the next step will be... Guilty Gear vs. BlazBlue, perhaps?



I'm wondering where a new Guilty Gear would go, as the Strive has continued to write characters to "happy" endings. Even though characters' stories can of course be continued and expanded, Strive would honestly be a pretty natural end to the series.







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"Re(2):GG Strive news" , posted Mon 13 Mar 12:10post reply

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I'm wondering where a new Guilty Gear would go, as the Strive has continued to write characters to "happy" endings. Even though characters' stories can of course be continued and expanded, Strive would honestly be a pretty natural end to the series.

“Heihachi Mishima…IS DEAD.”

Or barring the perpetual undoings/redoings, I guess there’s always the SF route of crowding in multiple sequels before the “finale” entry’s story! Although Strive probably actually has an interesting story to serve as its series’ bookend, unlikely the haplessly irrelevant and boring SFIII finale scenario that Capcom finally figured out how to ignore, two decades later!





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"Re(2):GG Strive news" , posted Mon 13 Mar 20:43post reply

First, I adore the name. It's not "Delilah", it's not "Bedman Mk2", it's "Bedman?" and I'm here for the GG insanity.
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I'm wondering where a new Guilty Gear would go, as the Strive has continued to write characters to "happy" endings. Even though characters' stories can of course be continued and expanded, Strive would honestly be a pretty natural end to the series.


I feel that there is a real possibility Strive was supposed to be the last of the series, or the last of the era at least, with a major change in cast both as characters and as developers for the next one. As you say, the fact most long-standing narrative arcs get resolved all in one go feels pretty definitive.
But again, as Maou says, nothing prevents them from creating a new threat coming out of nowhere and characters are forced out of retirement.

Also, I wonder how much the unexpected success of the game (compared to previous GGs) changed their plans. For a long time, GG was more or less their company card to get some contractor job with other people's properties, and even though they finally made it big with DBF, Strive's success on their 100% owned IP must have given them more to think about, if only to consider supporting Strive longer than initially planned.
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"Re(3):GG Strive news" , posted Mon 13 Mar 23:00:post reply

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I'm wondering where a new Guilty Gear would go, as the Strive has continued to write characters to "happy" endings. Even though characters' stories can of course be continued and expanded, Strive would honestly be a pretty natural end to the series.
“Heihachi Mishima…IS DEAD.”

Or barring the perpetual undoings/redoings, I guess there’s always the SF route of crowding in multiple sequels before the “finale” entry’s story! Although Strive probably actually has an interesting story to serve as its series’ bookend, unlikely the haplessly irrelevant and boring SFIII finale scenario that Capcom finally figured out how to ignore, two decades later!



Or ASW can make a dream-match GG game.

It wouldn't be the first time; BlazBlue's story was pretty much concluded in Central Fiction (if I remember correctly, only the Clover family storyline was left unresolved), but that didn't stop them from making Cross Tag Battle.





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"Re(4):GG Strive news" , posted Tue 14 Mar 22:19post reply

Normally I'm fine with non-humanoid characters, but I've always found Bedman to be an eyesore. Whenever I watch Bedman in a match - or, worse, try to fight it - I find the thing to be a jumble of pieces that don't look like anything and don't flow together. So while I'm happy for the fans of the character this upgraded Bedman? didn't make me want to run out and buy the DLC.

I'm curious to see what Asuka is like as a playable character. When the face of "That Man" was finally revealed he looked really dopey, so hopefully his moves will make him more interesting.





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"Re(5):GG Strive news" , posted Thu 16 Mar 17:29post reply

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"MultiVersus" , posted Tue 28 Mar 03:07post reply

MultiVersus leaves beta, goes straight into grave.

They say they are coming back at some undetermined point in the future but odds are they are going to ghost everyone and eventually disappear.





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"Black Dahlia joins Skullgirls 2nd Encore" , posted Fri 31 Mar 22:13post reply

And she looks quite good!

It's sad that the story cutscenes for the new characters aren't voiced like the ones for the old ones, and while I like Dahlia, there were other characters that I'd prefer to see added to the game over her and Umbrella (like Brain Drain, Prof. Isaac and the three goddesses worshipped by Double) - but, considering all the issues and fights involving the creator and developers of Skullgirls, I guess we should be glad that it's even getting new content at all.





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"Re(1):Black Dahlia joins Skullgirls 2nd Encor" , posted Fri 31 Mar 23:36:post reply

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And she looks quite good!
considering all the issues and fights involving the creator and developers of Skullgirls, I guess we should be glad that it's even getting new content at all.

That is very cool! Here from my seat in the New Meridian branch of the Madman's Cafe, I admire how spunky Skullgirls and its wonderful animators have soldiered on over the years. Like with the baffling split of farm sim Bokujou Monogatari abroad into two competing sims, Harvest Moon and Story of Seasons, I have no idea who owns it and how as an artistic production it is still continuing, but would sure be interested to learn more! Either way, it is lovely to look at and has the unique honor of being the only American-made fighting game to ever make it to Japan in any serious way (the nearly-forgotten mini-release of 16-bit MK does not count).





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"Re(1):Black Dahlia joins Skullgirls 2nd Encor" , posted Sat 1 Apr 22:43post reply

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considering all the issues and fights involving the creator and developers of Skullgirls, I guess we should be glad that it's even getting new content at all.



I do wonder if there is a future for the franchise.

While they call it Season 1 Pass, with the obvious implication being that there is at least the idea of the possibility of a Season 2. It's had "Encore" and "2nd Encore" releases, but the base game will be 11 years old this month. That is a long time for a series to go without a legitimate sequel. At the same time, is there a combination of an IP owner, designers, and coders that both desire and have the ability to create a sequel that wouldn't ultimately be considered a disappointment in some fashion or another?

Okay, Virtua Fighter 5 is approaching its 17th anniversary, but that arguably is an example of the issue at hand. VF5 has seen long periods of no visible support by Sega, while occasionally getting recycled and re-released because Sega wants to keep making money from fans but seemingly have no interest in actually continuing the series.







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"Re(2):Black Dahlia joins Skullgirls 2nd Encor" , posted Mon 3 Apr 01:31post reply

She looks pretty good but as long as it has been since her reveal, I honestly thought Black Dahlia was already in the game. That's not a criticism of Skullgirls, since the game is unique in how it is being produced. As an indie fighter it's certainly doing better than Divekick or that bizarre game that featured combat cows.





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"Re(2):New Goketsuji/Power Instinct in the mak" , posted Wed 12 Apr 12:29post reply

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Let’s hope so!!

I bet it will just be a collection.





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"Re(3):New Goketsuji/Power Instinct in the mak" , posted Wed 12 Apr 21:52post reply

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Let’s hope so!!
I bet it will just be a collection.



Hey, as long as it includes Groove on Fight (hopefully translated), that works for me!





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"Re(4):New Goketsuji/Power Instinct in the mak" , posted Fri 14 Apr 03:39:post reply

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Let’s hope so!!
I bet it will just be a collection.


Hey, as long as it includes Groove on Fight (hopefully translated), that works for me!



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"Re(5):New Goketsuji/Power Instinct in the mak" , posted Sat 15 Apr 16:17post reply

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FINALLY a suitable game for true evil-heads to play after football practice!
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Looks like we need to get a paranormal investigator in here. Was the football camp cursed…? That would explain a lot.







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"Re(1):New Goketsuji/Power Instinct in the mak" , posted Thu 11 May 03:39post reply

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Now this is much more my kind of fighting game than SFVI! Too bad it's all unconfirmed info for the time being!

(secret information that I'll impart only to the Cafe: my FAQ for Power Instinct 2 is still out there on gamefaqs, last updated in 1999 >>cringe<<)

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"Re(2):New Goketsuji/Power Instinct in the mak" , posted Thu 11 May 23:30post reply

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(secret information that I'll impart only to the Cafe: my FAQ for Power Instinct 2 is still out there on gamefaqs, last updated in 1999 >>cringe<<)


For which I'm eternally grateful! Finding information about even slightly older games is difficult in the always changing world of the internet. Too much fighting game knowledge is either buried in some obscure members-only Discord or is being incinerated as Twitter burns up in a blaze of fascist stupidity. FAQs filled with ASCII art or formatted to be printed out on dot matrix printers are the best method we have for passing on this information to future generations.







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"R# Kombat" , posted Thu 18 May 23:45post reply

Asuka coming to GG:Strive. I guess that silly little pinwheel thing on his face is for meter management.

Mortal Kombat is coming later this year. As expected, everyone explodes in CGI. What was not expected is there's something called kameo fighters. Will this be a striker system or something like Noob/Smoke? Either way, it should be a mess so I'm looking forward to it.

Also of note, a surprisingly robust 30th anniversary MK page has also opened. Having a playthrough for every character of every game they are in is impressive. Hopefully someone was paid well to play through MK4 again and again.







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"Re(1):R# Kombat" , posted Fri 19 May 00:45post reply

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Having a playthrough for every character of every game they are in is impressive. Hopefully someone was paid well to play through MK4 again and again.

Ha! But wait, wait, who will be responsible for playing through Mortal Kombat…Mythologies…? An action RPG featuring Sub-Zero?? I’m pretty sure I didn’t just see this in a strange dream but actually saw a preview in a US magazine as a kid?





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"Re(2):R# Kombat" , posted Fri 19 May 09:11post reply

So, Mortal Kombat is being rebooted... again. Let's see how many games Boon's team will release until the next reboot.

Considering the choice at the end of MK11's Aftermath story, I'm disappointed that NRS went with the easier solution of following Liu Kang's ending instead of Shang Tsung's. Or, considering how MKX and MK11 were so focused on each kombatant having different "variations", they could even have both endings being canon, with the timeline being split in two during their battle and leading to different worlds fighting for supremacy over the other. Oh well.

And the gore is as graphic as ever, it seems. Lovely; I guess I may skip this one.

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Ha! But wait, wait, who will be responsible for playing through Mortal Kombat…Mythologies…? An action RPG featuring Sub-Zero?? I’m pretty sure I didn’t just see this in a strange dream but actually saw a preview in a US magazine as a kid?



The sad thing is, Mythologies isn't even the worst MK game. That distinction goes to PS1's Mortal Kombat Special Forces. Jax is one of my favorite MK kombatants, but even he couldn't save that awful excuse for a video game.





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"Re(3):R# Kombat" , posted Fri 19 May 18:29:post reply

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Considering the choice at the end of MK11's Aftermath story, I'm disappointed that NRS went with the easier solution of following Liu Kang's ending instead of Shang Tsung's. Or, considering how MKX and MK11 were so focused on each kombatant having different "variations", they could even have both endings being canon, with the timeline being split in two during their battle and leading to different worlds fighting for supremacy over the other. Oh well.
My understanding is that it's exactly that: both endings happened, so both universes exist and it's going to be one universe against the other.
I'm curious about their concept of "Kameo". I understand it's a way of adding more obscure characters without making a full-fleged one (like Smash's assist trophies) and also of course adding more DLC. Will they be unplayable strikers like MvC1/KOF2000? It's a strange decision to take the series towards. Maybe also a way to add more guest characters where the rights owners don't want to see their character evicerated? So you could have Batman or Sarah Michelle Gellar in the game doing brutal stuff, but no violent murder and not being brutally murdered?

Anyway, back to ArcSys: I'm glad someone heard all the complaints about the game being too normal and the characters being too simplistic by ArcSys standards, because Asuka is totally insane. I barely have enough brain cells to play Leo, but I look forward for the craziness in tournaments.





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"Re(4):R# Kombat" , posted Fri 19 May 21:59post reply

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My understanding is that it's exactly that: both endings happened, so both universes exist and it's going to be one universe against the other.


I hope you're right.

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I'm curious about their concept of "Kameo". I understand it's a way of adding more obscure characters without making a full-fleged one (like Smash's assist trophies) and also of course adding more DLC. Will they be unplayable strikers like MvC1/KOF2000? It's a strange decision to take the series towards. Maybe also a way to add more guest characters where the rights owners don't want to see their character evicerated? So you could have Batman or Sarah Michelle Gellar in the game doing brutal stuff, but no violent murder and not being brutally murdered?


Honestly, this system is the part that least interested me. I'm not saying that it's going to be bad or anything, but I don't see it really fitting with MK's identity, nor sticking for more than one game (just like MK9's tag battles; they were actually decent, but the MK audience quickly grew bored with them and then MKX dropped the tag system).

The only advantage I can see for "Kameo", at least for now, is the possibility of bringing obscure MK characters like Moloch, Nitara or Havik and thus pleasing the (few) people who like them, without having to dedicate time and effort to develop them as full-fledged kombatants.

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Anyway, back to ArcSys: I'm glad someone heard all the complaints about the game being too normal and the characters being too simplistic by ArcSys standards, because [url=Considering the choice at the end of MK11's Aftermath story, I'm disappointed that NRS went with the easier solution of following Liu Kang's ending instead of Shang Tsung's. Or, considering how MKX and MK11 were so focused on each kombatant having different "variations", they could even have both endings being canon, with the timeline being split in two during their battle and leading to different worlds fighting for supremacy over the other. Oh well.]Asuka is totally insane. I barely have enough brain cells to play Leo, but I look forward for the craziness in tournaments.


Yes, while I'm not a GG fan, Asuka looks very interesting. It seems that all the years people waited for him to become a playable fighter were worth it, after all.





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"Re(5):R# Kombat" , posted Mon 22 May 23:25post reply

Apparently Amazon Italy accidentally (or not) leaked the characters (or "kombatants" and "kameos") for the Kombat Pack 1 DLC.

I'm not very interested in the guest fighters (despite being a huge fan of the TV live-action series that one of them comes from), nor in most of the characters announced. That said, there are two things that caught my attention in the list of DLC Kameos:



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The first one is the fact that MKX's Ferra is listed as one of the DLC Kameos. Not "Ferra/Torr", just "Ferra". That makes me wonder if Torr will be present in MK1 either as a playable character (which I don't think would be the best choice) or as a sub-boss (a role that I think suits him much better).

The second thing is that Johnny Cage is listed as a DLC Kameo - but he's already confirmed as a playable kombatant. His "Kameo" version could be just a joke, like him appearing dressed in his MKX Mime outfit, but it could also mean that the "Kameo Johnny Cage" is a different character altogether and that Iggy's prediction of MK1 involving a war between two timelines could be right on the mark, with "Kameo Cage" being the Johnny Cage from Shang Tsung's timeline (who may be dead in the story but still appearing in the other game modes, like Dick Grayson in Injustice 1 or The Joker in Injustice 2). I really hope that's the case.


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"Re(6):R# Kombat" , posted Tue 23 May 19:23post reply

I guess we'll know for sure when they show the actual game this week, but my feeling is that they're trying to be very clear that the kameo situation is different from the assist trophy situation from Smash, i.e. a character being chosen doesn't "deconfirms" it from being made playable later. If a popular character is only a kameo in the base game, it's going to be a tease "make some noise so we add him as a DLC later" rather than "this character won't be playable". With how reactive some part of the MK community are, it's probably a good choice (plus it can drive engagement and create free marketing).







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"Re(7):R# Kombat" , posted Wed 24 May 01:08post reply

This reminds me: Iggy, how is MK perceived in Europe? ...is it...even sold in Europe? Obviously it's a very "American" game which is totally unknown and unsellable in Japan today, but I'm curious about its global reach, in between the extreme violence and the "confused American view of Asia" aesthetic, that could either be fun (as it was to the vanishingly small number of Japanese players during the series' verrrry brief history there) or too strange to appeal.





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"Re(8):R# Kombat" , posted Thu 25 May 04:06post reply

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This reminds me: Iggy, how is MK perceived in Europe? ...is it...even sold in Europe? Obviously it's a very "American" game which is totally unknown and unsellable in Japan today, but I'm curious about its global reach, in between the extreme violence and the "confused American view of Asia" aesthetic, that could either be fun (as it was to the vanishingly small number of Japanese players during the series' verrrry brief history there) or too strange to appeal.


I can't talk for all of Europe, but I can say that at least in Western Europe it's sold and is fairly well known. MK1 on Megadrive and MK2 on SFC were very successful, some fringe parents association probably cluched their pearls but no one really cared, and I remember seing it in arcades up to MK4.

So, it exists, but from what I remember from recent sales number, the overwhelming majority of modern MK sales are in North America, so I can't vouch on the overall popularity with modern European people. Tekken dwarfs it for sure, and Street Fighter or DBF sell more also.
There's also the issue that the other half of their production is Injustice, and DC comics, while known, really doesn't have the same appeal in Europe as the MCU, and I think I remember it selling far less than MK here [citation needed].





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"And the final JJBA:ASBR DLC character is..." , posted Thu 1 Jun 09:48:post reply

...Part 7's Alternate World Diego Brando.

As weird as it may sound, considering that this is basically Diego with a different Stand, I actually liked this choice.

Now the question is whether there will be more content added to the game after Alt. Diego, or if there will be another JoJo game (not necessarily a fighting game) more focused on the new universe (Parts 7-9, although Part 9 has just started), or if this is the last news involving JoJo's Bizarre Adventure in video games for a long time.





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"Re(1):And the final JJBA:ASBR DLC character i" , posted Thu 1 Jun 18:19post reply

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...Part 7's Alternate World Diego Brando.

As weird as it may sound, considering that this is basically Diego with a different Stand, I actually liked this choice.

Now the question is whether there will be more content added to the game after Alt. Diego, or if there will be another JoJo game (not necessarily a fighting game) more focused on the new universe (Parts 7-9, although Part 9 has just started), or if this is the last news involving JoJo's Bizarre Adventure in video games for a long time.


It's a weak last character after a very strong DLC pack (I mean, anything with Risotto would be strong, but Keichô was such a nice surprise!). 2 new characters, 2 recycled EOH characters is not bad, all things considered!

They're already teasing some news for next week, so I guess the chances of a season 2 are high? N'dour and Joshu are still recyclable, and Abbacchio and Yotsuyu had 3D models but were unused so there's definitely material to start with. And as Keichô showed, anything is possible really.

All in all, Jojo is an evergreen franchise, so as long as Araki is working, we'll have games to come! Good or bad, it's all in Bamco's hands.