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"RANDOM GAMES! #33: The Trilogy of Error" , posted Wed 17 Aug 20:47:post reply

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FINAL FANTASY XV
NIOH
THE LAST GUARDIAN

All three long awaited games, in development for over 10 years, originally scheduled then cancelled on PS3, losing their original director on the way,will be released by the end of this year... Maybe? FF15 was supposed to go first, but you probably heard how well that went. Now it will be released after The Last Guardian. Unless The Last Guardian gets delayed too! And we still don't have a precise date for Nioh, which was supposed to be the last, but might end up coming before FF15, especially if next week's Beta is well received. Or get moved to 2017 because FF15 stole its spot. Who knows. Maybe FF15 won't even make it for November. Anyway. We should be fixed by TGS. I'll miss making fun of these three games once they are out.

It's Gamescom.
Metal Gear Survive Huh!?
52 minutes of FF15 That leak was all truuuuuue
NIOH one week to go!
Harley Quinn in Injustice 2 Suicide Squad Hype! ... Well, maybe not.
Lee in Tekken 7 Wait a minute, why is he pretending to be Violet?
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Biohazard 7 by Namco





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"Re(1):RANDOM GAMES! #33: The Trilogy of Error" , posted Thu 18 Aug 01:18:post reply

I wonder how much Erron Black animation is going to be recycled with Deadshot?

Eh, who cares about that? The big news is that Kid Kazuya is coming to Tekken 7! I hope a variation on the bowling game comes back but it involves tossing little Mishima off a cliff.


EDIT: The magical shiba inu puppy you can summon in Ni-Oh is a game seller.





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"Re(2):RANDOM GAMES! #33: The Trilogy of Error" , posted Fri 19 Aug 13:49post reply

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Maybe FF15 won't even make it for November. Anyway. We should be fixed by TGS. I'll miss making fun of these three games once they are out.

I will be VERY disappointed if FFXV is only one console generation late. I wonder how dumb Square feels about having to sell it on a console with a Japanese install base of 2 million rather than 10 million. Maybe international sales are enough?





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"Chinatown Fair - The Lost Arcade" , posted Fri 19 Aug 13:53post reply

This one is for Prof. and all others who've lived in or remember New York and its legendary Chinatown Fair arcade. There were about five threads where this could go, but I decided that taxidermy wasn't my strong suit and entrust it to the Gods of Random Thread.

MAOUBLOGGING VOL. 3223: LET'S ALL WATCH "THE LOST ARCADE"

I just saw The Lost Arcade, which chronicles the community and final days of the Chinatown Fair arcade. It benefits from the fact that the directors weren't associated with the scene but followed it like anthropologists because they found it interesting. This resulted in a film that I think anyone can enjoy: colorful characters like "Mahvel Baby" Yipes and the famed Marvel 2 scene are there briefly, and while this would have been a fun focus, instead it's really about the sense of community, respect, and play that brought people together...and it's a better film.

It's centered on two employees, one coming from a shattered family background who found his new family there, and the other who recreated the community in the new Brooklyn Next Level arcade when the OG Chinatown Fair closed, plus the kindly old Pakistani-American man who ran the place. He wasn't a gamer himself but fixed all the machines and created a self-regulating community where kids could meet...so much so that I never noticed him in real life. Pretty interesting.

Happily, the directors were able to extend filming not only when the successor Next Level opened but when Chinatown Fair itself did under new family-focused management. Impressively, the directors give the new Chinatown Fair owner a fair shake: he's a gamer himself from a different generation, and he ended up making a brighter place where a different crowd could create their own new community--more welcoming to girls now and a music game focus. There's room for both. I don't think a (disappointed) person from the OG scene could've shown this, and it improves the film.

There's also some amazing archival footage of early Chinatown Fair and the days of the huge early Times Square arcade scene (!?!) and the music is great.

There was a Q&A and I asked if they'd be sharing it outside the US since it's interesting not only as a nostalgia piece but as a record of a certain community and culture. I think Tokyo's Mikado scene or others would dig it. Even if you get to meet certain top players at Evo or Tougeki, you're probably not likely to have the chance to really see someone's "hometown dojo" like this, whether you're from the old Sunnyvale scene, Tokyo, Europe, or elsewhere. Plus, seems extra fitting with arcade-less SFV and Daigo mentioning his worries about not having an arcade scene to train with. Sounds like they'll send it to Asia at least. Bug them to bring it to your town!

Oh, there is a trailer!





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"Re(1):Chinatown Fair - The Lost Arcade" , posted Fri 19 Aug 19:04post reply

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MAOUBLOGGING VOL. 3223: LET'S ALL WATCH "THE LOST ARCADE"

I just saw The Lost Arcade


I want to see this!







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"Re(2):Chinatown Fair - The Lost Arcade" , posted Sat 20 Aug 09:08post reply

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MAOUBLOGGING VOL. 3223: LET'S ALL WATCH "THE LOST ARCADE"

I just saw The Lost Arcade

I want to see this!


As do I. The North American arcade culture has pretty much evaporated so it's good to see this former way of life preserved on film. The fact that a number of people who frequented the arcade found a way to expand their hobby in their adult lives is odd but I'm glad that's viewed as a curiosity rather than the film's focus.





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"Re(1):Chinatown Fair - The Lost Arcade" , posted Sat 20 Aug 11:13:post reply

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This one is for Prof. and all others who've lived in or remember New York and its legendary Chinatown Fair arcade. There were about five threads where this could go, but I decided that taxidermy wasn't my strong suit and entrust it to the Gods of Random Thread.

MAOUBLOGGING VOL. 3223: LET'S ALL WATCH "THE LOST ARCADE"

I just saw The Lost Arcade, which chronicles the community and final days of the Chinatown Fair arcade. It benefits from the fact that the directors weren't associated with the scene but followed it like anthropologists because they found it interesting. This resulted in a film that I think anyone can enjoy: colorful characters like "Mahvel Baby" Yipes and the famed Marvel 2 scene are there briefly, and while this would have been a fun focus, instead it's really about the sense of community, respect, and play that brought people together...and it's a better film.
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AH CHINATOWN FAIR! The dumping ground of our youth!!

I have fond memories of the arcade which makes me facepalm the way that I was spending my days, but it was fun times. The chicken in the tic-tac-toe machine near the doorway, the money exchange guy that looked like a Shoko Asahara... ahh it's all coming back to me. Oddly enough I can't recall any locals during my time there who turned pro, so I guess I'm a generation older or something.

I wonder if the film has some footage of the other arcades that were in NY, namely Playland in Times Square and the other location there which I forgot the name (no, not XS), it was right near an athletics gym. Those were just as good arcades although Chinatown fair was the only one to survive the mayor's cleansing of the city. I played the most Neogeo at Playland... I still recall the 3-in-1 bowling game cabinet right next to it which constantly yelled "POWER STRIKE!". It was annoying, and now it's fond memories. It was Bally Midway Tri-Sports.

This film seems nice! I'd love to check it out when it becomes more accessible.
Thanks for sharing!





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"Das war wirklich sehr interessant" , posted Sun 21 Aug 16:44post reply

After Gamescom and that boring Olympics Soccer final, I wondered if Germany could ever produce anything interesting in 2016 but that's a cool analysis of the music in Breath of the Wild.





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"Re(2):Chinatown Fair - The Lost Arcade" , posted Mon 22 Aug 01:39post reply

quote:
This one is for Prof. and all others who've lived in or remember New York and its legendary Chinatown Fair arcade. There were about five threads where this could go, but I decided that taxidermy wasn't my strong suit and entrust it to the Gods of Random Thread.

MAOUBLOGGING VOL. 3223: LET'S ALL WATCH "THE LOST ARCADE"

I just saw The Lost Arcade, which chronicles the community and final days of the Chinatown Fair arcade. It benefits from the fact that the directors weren't associated with the scene but followed it like anthropologists because they found it interesting. This resulted in a film that I think anyone can enjoy: colorful characters like "Mahvel Baby" Yipes and the famed Marvel 2 scene are there briefly, and while this would have been a fun focus, instead it's really about the sense of community, respect, and play that brought people together...and it's a better film.
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AH CHINATOWN FAIR! The dumping ground of our youth!!

I have fond memories of the arcade which makes me facepalm the way that I was spending my days, but it was fun times. The chicken in the tic-tac-toe machine near the doorway, the money exchange guy that looked like a Shoko Asahara... ahh it's all coming back to me. Oddly enough I can't recall any locals during my time there who turned pro, so I guess I'm a generation older or

-- Message too long, Autoquote has been Snipped --


I always wanted to play at CTF in the early 00's because all of the poorly compressed .avi's of competitions showed then-amazing level of play, at a level which I surely wasn't at but that I admired.

LMAO at a Shoko Asahara lookalike...
... actually I need to get a shave and a haircut soon or else I might start looking like a skinny version of that.........







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"Re(1):Das war wirklich sehr interessant" , posted Mon 22 Aug 02:25post reply

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After Gamescom and that boring Olympics Soccer final, I wondered if Germany could ever produce anything interesting in 2016 but that's a cool analysis of the music in Breath of the Wild.



That was a really interesting video!
I'm going to pass this along to some of my friends who are in music to see what they think.





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"Re: Playstation 4 Neo and Slim, and PS plus" , posted Tue 23 Aug 07:15post reply

Sorry KOF and SRW, I will wait!
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"NIOH! NIOH! NIOH!" , posted Tue 23 Aug 11:20:post reply

I feel bad for the guy who went through the hassle of collecting all the Dragon Balls and asked Shenron to align the Xbox Gold with PS+. Speaking of which, Dragon Ball Fusions is pretty good. The most fun I have with a Dragon Ball game since Idainaru Densetsu twenty years ago.

Nioh's beta is out. Unfortunately stupid distractions like "needing sleep" and "being paid to go to the office" have so far prevented me from joining the fun.

CyGames has announced a bunch of games, including two titles developed by Platinum, one of which is a mobile game directed by Matsuno. Two of the games are headed toward "high end game machines". CyGames had the biggest booth at TGS last year but it was full of nothing, so it'd be cool if they actually brought some interesting line-up this time.





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"Re(1):NIOH! NIOH! NIOH!" , posted Tue 23 Aug 11:37post reply

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I feel bad for the guy who went through the hassle of collecting all the Dragon Balls and asked Shenron to align the Xbox Gold with PS+. Speaking of which, Dragon Ball Fusions is pretty good. The most fun I have with a Dragon Ball game since Idainaru Densetsu twenty years ago.

Nioh's beta is out. Unfortunately stupid distractions like "needing sleep" and "being paid to go to the office" have so far prevented me from joining the fun.

CyGames has announced a bunch of games, including two titles developed by Platinum, one of which is a mobile game directed by Matsuno. Two of the games are headed toward "high end game machines". CyGames had the biggest booth at TGS last year but it was full of nothing, so it'd be cool if they actually brought some interesting line-up this time.



I haven't tried Ni-Oh yet, but I've heard that the latest version makes it even more like Dark Souls and even less like what it was in the first Alpha... which sounds disappointing. I didn't join in on that first alpha, so I'm not yet sure how I'll feel whenever it is I get around to trying this one.







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"Re(2):NIOH! NIOH! NIOH!" , posted Tue 23 Aug 12:53post reply

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I haven't tried Ni-Oh yet, but I've heard that the latest version makes it even more like Dark Souls and even less like what it was in the first Alpha... which sounds disappointing. I didn't join in on that first alpha, so I'm not yet sure how I'll feel whenever it is I get around to trying this one.

I feel like no matter what Ni-Oh ends up being like, it will be a fascinating piece of software just because you will be holding an artifact, a symbol of the passage of time. Just for good measure, it should contain multiple bonus discs that let you play the game as it existed in each of its endless years of development. They could call them Ni-Oh 1-1, Ni-Oh 1-2, Ni-Oh 1-3...





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"Re(2):NIOH! NIOH! NIOH!" , posted Wed 24 Aug 02:34post reply

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I haven't tried Ni-Oh yet, but I've heard that the latest version makes it even more like Dark Souls and even less like what it was in the first Alpha... which sounds disappointing. I didn't join in on that first alpha, so I'm not yet sure how I'll feel whenever it is I get around to trying this one.


The first Ni-Oh demo was in equal parts a great idea, a shameless Souls re-skin and a huge mess. I'm hoping they add more to the first category but anything that subtracts from the third category is fine by me.





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"Re(1):NIOH! NIOH! NIOH!" , posted Wed 24 Aug 04:07post reply

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Nioh's beta is out. Unfortunately stupid distractions like "needing sleep" and "being paid to go to the office" have so far prevented me from joining the fun.



I'm actually downloading this now. I already shared a lot of thoughts on the Alpha, and I'm looking forward to this one. Always fun to check out early versions of games, and it really has some promise.

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CyGames has announced a bunch of games, including two titles developed by Platinum, one of which is a mobile game directed by Matsuno. Two of the games are headed toward "high end game machines". CyGames had the biggest booth at TGS last year but it was full of nothing, so it'd be cool if they actually brought some interesting line-up this time.



A project involving Platinum, Matsuno, and Yoshida... well I can't say I'm not interested..... I hope that development goes well and that it eventually heads west.

Actually, what the hell is happening with Granblue Fantasy? Apparently it's been officially translated/patched to English but isn't yet released outside Japan?





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"Re(2):Das war wirklich sehr interessant" , posted Wed 24 Aug 09:06post reply

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After Gamescom and that boring Olympics Soccer final, I wondered if Germany could ever produce anything interesting in 2016 but that's a cool analysis of the music in Breath of the Wild.


That was a really interesting video!
I'm going to pass this along to some of my friends who are in music to see what they think.



One of the sound/music guys on my team says that the video's analyses check out. Cool!





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"Astro Boy: Edge of Time" , posted Thu 25 Aug 00:21post reply

A bunch of famous people are collaborating for this game on kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1732149603/astro-boy-edge-of-time

Suda51 and Hiroaki are also on this.
Had not time to fully read game mechanics, I hope that besides the visual aspects there is also substance.





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"Re(1):Astro Boy: Edge of Time" , posted Thu 25 Aug 17:39:post reply

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A bunch of famous people are collaborating for this game on kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1732149603/astro-boy-edge-of-time

Suda51 and Hiroaki are also on this.
Had not time to fully read game mechanics, I hope that besides the visual aspects there is also substance.



Whoah crazy! Other than Oku's design I kind of strongly dislike the visuals going on here. It just looks like a generic CCG. It's a far cry from the awesome aesthetics of the early 2000s Astroboy TV show or Rintaro's astonishingly beautiful Metropolis. I feel like other than Pluto, Tezuka's estate isn't really keeping the bar very high for what they're letting people do with Astroboy lately.

Thank you for sharing the link though. I wouldn't have known about this otherwise.

More thoughts:
-With all the big names and properties involved why does this need to be Kickstarted?
-WTF Akira Yamaoka? Actually he's worked on so much different stuff i shouldn't be surprised
-Does anyone else feel like this game looks weirdly western? If I just saw this title image with no context, other than Oku's piece and the third image from the right, I would have assumed these were all by North American artists trying to draw in a manga influenced style instead of Japanese industry veterans (based on the inking, drawing, shading and coloring style). It's not a particularly good fit for Astro Boy, neither is it particularly interesting looking on its own merits.






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"Re(2):Astro Boy: Edge of Time" , posted Thu 25 Aug 22:05post reply

It's a passion project from owner of Playism (i.e. the owner of the Osaka-based translation company AGM) Ibai Ameztoy. He is heavily influenced by Marvel for this project which I assume is why the artworks seemed strangely influenced towards western comics. Maybe there was a clear direction given to the artists, something like "imagine you were drawing an American comics"? Which in itself would be an interesting approach and exercise, I guess, although I struggle to see the connection with Tezuka or Astro, or how all this would organically result in "let's do a collectible card game".

Maybe they had more ambitious plans and had to scale down their goals and wanted to retain all those prestigious names, in which case the only way to feature them all would have been this sort of result?

Well, Hiroaki is involved so we know there is no need to think so much about this project, it's doomed anyway.





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"Re(3):Astro Boy: Edge of Time" , posted Fri 26 Aug 05:54post reply

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Maybe there was a clear direction given to the artists, something like "imagine you were drawing an American comics"? Which in itself would be an interesting approach and exercise, I guess, although I struggle to see the connection with Tezuka or Astro, or how all this would organically result in "let's do a collectible card game".



I wonder how many people are interested in Tezuka creations and western comics.

I personally would have preferred something visually closer to Tezuka aesthetic.

Moreover, the most important question, does Princess Knight will be in the game?







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"Re(4):Ni-Oh Boy: Edge of Time" , posted Fri 26 Aug 06:45post reply

A few quick observations the Ni-Oh 2.0 alpha:

1. Not having item degradation is terrific. Now I can actually spend my time fighting and not sorting through piles of junk or getting stuck because the item I need won't drop.

2. The grunts seem a little weaker. In the first demo some random goon could easily kill you with one hit. Now you can maybe survive two hits if you're lucky.

3. There's an intro that explains the controls. The learn as you go (as all your equipment breaks) from the first demo is now a thing of the past.

So far I like what I see. Has anyone managed to spend some quality time with this current Ni-Oh?





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"Re(5):Ni-Oh Boy: Edge of Time" , posted Fri 26 Aug 08:03post reply

quote:
A few quick observations the Ni-Oh 2.0 alpha:

1. Not having item degradation is terrific. Now I can actually spend my time fighting and not sorting through piles of junk or getting stuck because the item I need won't drop.

2. The grunts seem a little weaker. In the first demo some random goon could easily kill you with one hit. Now you can maybe survive two hits if you're lucky.

3. There's an intro that explains the controls. The learn as you go (as all your equipment breaks) from the first demo is now a thing of the past.

So far I like what I see. Has anyone managed to spend some quality time with this current Ni-Oh?



There's a ton of stuff in here, I'm surprised. The first mission from the old demo, a "run the gauntlet of progressively difficult enemy spawns" side-mission,
a REALLY MASSIVE and very Dark Souls-esque cave filled with some fun secrets... and another sub-mission which I haven't attempted because the suggested level is like a dozen levels higher than my current.

I got the "Mark of the Warrior" for beating the cave mission, and I'd talk about the game more... but I've got a ton of work going on so maybe I'll yap about it later.





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"Re(3):Astro Boy: Edge of Time" , posted Fri 26 Aug 14:00post reply

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It's a passion project from owner of Playism (i.e. the owner of the Osaka-based translation company AGM) Ibai Ameztoy. He is heavily influenced by Marvel for this project which I assume is why the artworks seemed strangely influenced towards western comics. Maybe there was a clear direction given to the artists, something like "imagine you were drawing an American comics"? Which in itself would be an interesting approach and exercise, I guess, although I struggle to see the connection with Tezuka or Astro, or how all this would organically result in "let's do a collectible card game".




Thanks for the clarification! That demystifies a lot of the seemingly arbitrary decisions on this project.

It's kind of scary how well Japanese artists can adapt to other styles now, even picking up on what I would consider the flaws of the source. For instance the FFXV mobile game, Justice Monsters Five, looks so much like the exact kind of American super hero comic book art that made me lose interest in Marvel and DC after the 90s.

The art for this Astroboy CCG also has a lot of those traits, like overly saturated colors, shading to black with no hue variation, superfluous rim lighting, coloring with too much rendering that strips attention away from the linework etc. I'm certain these artists could do better, but they are choosing to make the art look worse in the pursuit of authenticity!






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"Going from Rioleus to Rathalos" , posted Sat 27 Aug 01:55post reply

There are a few MH fans, a lot of Capcom fans and many discussions about localization / cultural adaptations on MMC so maybe some of you will enjoy this GDC2016 keynote by the Translation Head of MH4 Ultimate.





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"Re(1):Going from Yunnan to Yosemite" , posted Sat 27 Aug 02:38post reply

Here's a fun song from China about office life:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFaQwZyPOZQ

The English subtitles have localized a few location names to convey the point of the suburbs, vacation destination, and the place where all the offices are.

Another user posted a literal translation in the comments, which I've pasted here:
I tried to translate this: (试着翻译成英文,没有完全按照字面翻译)

So far, the sofa is so far. aka My body feels hollowed out

Dusk had fallen over Chaoyang Park
As the retired ones are ready for their square dance.
And through the window I see shadow of trees,
can’t help but wonder if this is the best days of my youth
(When the petals left the flower)

Here’s a boss whose name is David,
He appeared right at 6pm, with eyes of a german shepherd
and a pot of steaming hot coffee at hand, said,
“Hey hey hey what about we have a meeting now”

I said that would be fun, but
I need to go to the airport to pick up my elderly dad (my elderly daddy)
Haven’t seen him for thirty years
He came from that distant Siberia. (hmmm?)

You would have all these done in the morning,
but I saw you playing with live stream instead.
Don’t you have a home to go back to?
Please, I beg you, you don’t say that—

“Dear, have an overtime.” --by Leon Lai

My body feels hollowed out,
exhausted, I’m so dog-tired.
(I’m not tired, not tired)
Eighteen days without removing makeup
Two years and a half without changing monthly contact lenses
I lost control of life routine but gained weight instead

I get up to fight through North 5th Ring Road
while I live at Huilongguan*.
A sofa is my harbor to rest

With an empty stomach,
cakes only in my dream,
tell me how could I relax?
KPI everyday, I’d rather like you to
get your “craftsmanship” out of the window

Now hear me:
I love my job, I really like to work,
My work makes me improve.
I love to study, it makes me happy,
(I really need to pick my dad home, let me go home)

[I don’t care about pay, I’m mainly interested in this job]
[This job makes me feel content]
[This is the group effort of everybody]
[Thank boss for giving me this opportunity]
[The company provides a platform for my strength to shine]
[It’s okay, overtime is no big deal]
[No problem, this is part of my job]
[What boss means is actually really meaningful]
[I will do it now, count on me!]
[Yes Boss!]
[Everyday I wake up to embrace my job!]
[Of course, of course, this is what I should do!]
[I can keep on fixing this as you wish]
[Yes, till you’re satisfied]
[No hurry, I can go home after I finish this]
[I’m really healthy, an all-nighter is not a big deal]
[I don’t have anything to do at home anyway, so I’d rather stay]
[Boss has put more effort than all of us!]
[!krow llits nac I !pu em esiaR]

How do you like this, boss? hahahahahaha!
How do you like this, boss? hahahahahaha!
Now you’re satisfied, hahahahahaha!
(I really need to pick my dad home)
After I quit, boss be in my blacklist!!

Who needs to sleep? What a waste of time
Who wants to eat? PPT is my nutrient
How do you like this, boss? Now you’re satisfied?
hahahahaha…..

My body feels hollowed out, (no more overtime)
exhausted, I’m so dog-tired. (no more overtime)
(I’m not tired, not tired) (no more overtime)
Eighteen days without removing makeup
Two years and a half without changing monthly contact lenses
I lost control of life routine but gained weight instead

oh hey ya oh hey ya oh hey~I’m heading to Yunnan
oh hey ya oh hey ya oh hey~Say bye to Huilongguan (No overtime)
oh hey ya oh hey ya oh hey~bring my dad along
oh hey ya oh hey ya oh hey~Enjoy life like a adventurer on horseback

oh hey ya oh hey ya oh hey~I’m heading to Yunnan
oh hey ya oh hey ya oh hey~Say bye to Huilongguan (No overtime)
oh hey ya oh hey ya oh hey~bring my dad along
oh hey ya oh hey ya oh hey
no overtime!
No Overtime!
NO OVERTIME!

[For those who works overtime, with sympathy]

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"Re(6):Ni-Oh Boy: Edge of Time" , posted Sat 27 Aug 10:29post reply

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There's a ton of stuff in here, I'm surprised. The first mission from the old demo, a "run the gauntlet of progressively difficult enemy spawns" side-mission,
a REALLY MASSIVE and very Dark Souls-esque cave filled with some fun secrets... and another sub-mission which I haven't attempted because the suggested level is like a dozen levels higher than my current.

I got the "Mark of the Warrior" for beating the cave mission, and I'd talk about the game more... but I've got a ton of work going on so maybe I'll yap about it later.


The amount of game they are letting people test out is remarkable. Often in demos you very quickly bump up against the edges of what is allowed but this feels like I'm playing the first part of a full game.

In a weird way I almost don't want to finish the demo. Not because it's bad but because I feel that Ni-Oh is on the proper path and I want to wait for the full game. But if they are going to give me this much of the game to test out the least I can do is poke around a bit more. Is there a survey for this beta like there was for the previous test?







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"Re(1):RANDOM GAME!" , posted Tue 30 Aug 05:14post reply

Now I know why I care so little about KOF14: because it's not this game.





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"The floor is lava" , posted Tue 30 Aug 05:35post reply

Klei took the idea quite literally.





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"Re(2):RANDOM GAME!" , posted Tue 30 Aug 06:21post reply

I don't remember if I had posted that game here at the Cafe, but I did see that tweet some months ago. It's an amazing work of art, the two characters made so far are positively insane, and I wish this genius manages to complete the game someday.





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"Re(3):RANDOM GAME!" , posted Tue 30 Aug 12:15post reply

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I don't remember if I had posted that game here at the Cafe, but I did see that tweet some months ago. It's an amazing work of art, the two characters made so far are positively insane, and I wish this genius manages to complete the game someday.



That game is a true work of art. I'm not even trying to be funny. It's beautiful TT____TT

With the internet's unwavering obsession with Harambe, that game might actually have a much bigger audience than the author ever expected now.






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"Re(4):RANDOM GAME!" , posted Tue 30 Aug 12:47post reply

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I don't remember if I had posted that game here at the Cafe, but I did see that tweet some months ago. It's an amazing work of art, the two characters made so far are positively insane, and I wish this genius manages to complete the game someday.


That game is a true work of art. I'm not even trying to be funny. It's beautiful TT____TT

With the internet's unwavering obsession with Harambe, that game might actually have a much bigger audience than the author ever expected now.



There's actually been more than one English article about this game!

One here

Another here

And the author has an English download page for the game on nico here!

From the download page:
"even so, since you are so geeky enough to be playing indie games
such as this one right here,
i believe youare also skilled enough to overcome your problems."

I wonder if his manga is anywhere near as interesting as the visuals of this game. The severed head character is one of the most gonzo characters I've ever seen in a fighting game.





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"Re(5):RANDOM Yunnan Facts!" , posted Wed 31 Aug 00:25:post reply

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I don't remember if I had posted that game here at the Cafe, but I did see that tweet some months ago. It's an amazing work of art, the two characters made so far are positively insane, and I wish this genius manages to complete the game someday.


That game is a true work of art. I'm not even trying to be funny. It's beautiful TT____TT

With the internet's unwavering obsession with Harambe, that game might actually have a much bigger audience than the author ever expected now.


There's actually been more than one English article about this game!

One here

Another here

And the author has an English download page for the game on nico here!

From the download page:
"even so, since you are so geeky enough to be playing indie games
such as this one right here,
i believe youare also skilled enough to overcome your problems."

I wonder if his manga is anywhere near as interesting as the visuals of this game. The severed head character is one of the most gonzo characters I've ever seen in a fighting game.



Thanks for sharing those links! Glad to see Daromeon is getting an international following! I really hope he eventually completes that game. I'm really tempted to contact him and offer to help with the animations, but I have zero free time!

Also thanks for posting that song! Yunnan is the land of my ancestry! Seems like it's one of the few places in China that most Chinese people unanimously have a pretty positive impression of.

Some fun facts about Yunnan:

-About 1/3 of all known orchid species (530 out of 1600) are found in Yunnan

-Hayao Miyazaki based the look of the Emishi people in Princess Mononoke off of Yunnan cultures (there isn't one, but many) rather than any Japanese cultures

-Reading through his essays, I was really shocked at how much Miyazaki knew about Yunnan. Turns out it's because he subscribes to the “broadleaf evergreen forest culture hypothesis” of ethnobotanist Nakao Sasuke who conjectures that Japanese and other East Asian cultures have common roots in Yunnan. I can confirm that the foods we eat (fluffy rice, fermented soy beans, savory mochi etc) are really really similar.

-China's best animation studio, WolfSmoke are making a super cool looking series of short films set in a fantasy version of Yunnan.

-If you want to see a great Kungfu flick set in Yunnan watch the 2011 Donnie Yen film Wuxia. For me it is a very very authentic representation of Chinese culture and values. A lot of the characters reminded me of people I've known in real life. Absolutely avoid the butchered Miramax release called "Dragon" though. It absolutely excises the life out of the movie. I'm not even kidding. If I sat down and had to choose all my favourite subtle shots that I felt contributed to the Chinese soul of the movie, those are literally all the shots (and a great musical number) they chose to cut out.

-Yunnan has some of the best mushrooms in the world. My favourite is the "ji zhong" which means "chicken mushroom." In english it's sometimes called the "termite mushroom" because it tends to grow in termite mounds. It has an incredibly deep savory umami flavour on par, maybe even better than most meat. It can't be farmed and only grows in the wild. Thankfully it tastes awesome preserved in oil and can be enjoyed year round (and the oil can be used for cooking like truffle oil!)

-Yunnan is also home to some of the finest ham in the world. I've heard from people in the restaurant business that in recent years some of the best Iberico ham is also secretly produced there then shipped overseas.

-Yunnan is also home to rushan, one of the only cheeses in Chinese cuisine.

-How to tie this back into video games? Yunnan culture is super cool, but has never been referenced directly in videogames outside of maybe some Wuxia games. I always thought some of the clothing in Lunar (and many other RPGs) may have been inspired by some of the traditional clothes from Yunnan though.






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"Re(6):RANDOM Yunnan Facts!" , posted Thu 1 Sep 00:52post reply

I take back everything I thought about Daromeon not drawing interesting manga: he's the author of Ketchup Ninja!

I initially read that manga years ago because it was being translated by one of the earliest translators of One Punch Man, and I thought, "this is wacky!"







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"Re(7):RANDOM Yunnan Facts!" , posted Fri 2 Sep 06:33post reply

The site for Namco's GSF series now also exist in English - I'm fascinated by the fact the concept even exists.
I wonder if compiling the material and working out a shared continuity from so many different sci-fi games is the pet project of one superfan who managed to get a job at Namco, and was granted some minuscule budget or space in the company's server to host the material, considering how the concept doesn't come up that overtly in any Namco releases I can think of. I also wonder if this is the individual in question, since he retweeted me when I replied to the UGSF Twitter account about the English translation and his profile makes some mentions of related concepts (but Google Translate returns too much of a mess to make sense of it).





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"RANDOM UGSF, RANDOM MOMOTARO" , posted Fri 2 Sep 12:23:post reply

Haha this is amazing, why the hell would they spend the time and money to translate that page in English? It did always feel like a fan project. I don't know if he got inspired by the insane Zelda timeline discussion but if it's the case, I am glad at least one positive thing came out of it. Thanks for tracking the guy down.

Thanks for the impromptue Yuunan trivia as well. That region has always felt to me as the most interesting Chinese province to visit (alongside maybe Tibet) from a pure visual/design perspective.

The 2DS and a new Momotarō were announced for Japan last night. That TVCM sure is adorable.





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"Re(1):RANDOM UGSF, RANDOM MOMOTARO" , posted Fri 2 Sep 21:49post reply

That UGSF page is amazing! Talk about a passion project.





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"RANDOM Phantom Pain Anniversary" , posted Sun 4 Sep 12:38post reply

To celebrate the one year anniversary of MGSVTPP's release, MGS savant HikariMGS has pulled out from his magnificent ass one of his best superplays ever. Seeing a player master this much the internal logic and possibilities of a given game is a real treat.





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"15 minutes of Sonic Mania" , posted Mon 5 Sep 01:49post reply

The new animations and original visual ideas for Sonic Mania are very convincing.





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"Re(1):15 minutes of Sonic Mania" , posted Mon 5 Sep 03:39post reply

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The new animations and original visual ideas for Sonic Mania are very convincing.

It's true! I didn't really get the pointless (modified) retread of Green Hill, but Studiopolis is cute. I would watch Eggman TV.

Most of all, I enjoy that (Sonic CD port mastermind) Whitehead has such obvious love for Sonic CD and uses its modified Sonic 1 animations accordingly.





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"Re(1):RANDOM Phantom Pain Anniversary" , posted Mon 5 Sep 04:09post reply

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To celebrate the one year anniversary of MGSVTPP's release, MGS savant HikariMGS has pulled out from his magnificent ass one of his best superplays ever. Seeing a player master this much the internal logic and possibilities of a given game is a real treat.



Who's videos do you prefer, HikariMGS' or BIG SARU?

I do think some of BIG SARU's best work was with MGS3, but he's still done some awfully clever things in GZ and TPP.





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"Re(2):15 minutes of Sonic Mania" , posted Mon 5 Sep 05:11post reply

...WOW. Feels so nostalgic, yet so fresh. I see the nth Green Hill rehash may get boring, but there are some tweaks that intrigue me, like...there are way more spikes at the bottom? And what looks like a one-way wall. Nice remix, very conservative but pleasant.

Studiopolis on the other hand is explosive, colorful, loud, without risking to look too loaded. From a gameplay standpoint, I like that ramp gimmick a lot, where you must spindash to fly to the next platform. What about the music? Fantastic. The Stardust Speedway reference is obvious and welcome, but I just can't help but feel a slight Chaotix influence, which is in the graphics of the game as well. It doesn't specifically remind me of any track from Chaotix, but I feel a touch of the general OST atmosphere from that title in the Studiopolis theme. The synth keyboard parts literally give me goosebumps. This theme sets my heart on fire.

Sonic's animation when he's about to fall is so freaking smooth, elastic, and so is the "look above" one. Jaw dropping motions. Last but not least, dancing Eggman is a great touch.

Cutting it short, it's day one purchase for me.





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"Re(2):RANDOM Phantom Pain Anniversary" , posted Mon 5 Sep 12:39post reply

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Who's videos do you prefer, HikariMGS' or BIG SARU?


HikariMGS is my guy (I assume real name Hikaru is a guy). Always impressive but great sense of humour, well-thought videos/editing, and overall insane performances. He really does feel like he "gets" MGS more than anyone: not only is he funny but the comedy of his videos is very "Kojima-like" and actually linked to his insane level of skill; the way he plays and breaks the games seem really in tune with the original motivation of the developers.

I like Big Saru too and I am a subscriber, but he feels more like a plain "excellent gamer" (of MGS among other things) whose sense of humor is more rarely expressed and closer to the typical NicoNico-inspired brand of humor; in my book, he does not represent as well as HikariMGS the "platonic ideal" of what a MGS player should be.

I still have no idea what we are supposed to make of World of FF.
Duke Nukem 3D is back for its 20th anniversary. The comparison with Trump is worryingly adequate.
I enjoy how BanNam combined the show Psi-Nan's weird humor with its own franchise in the 3DS game's PV.
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"Super Mario Apple" , posted Thu 8 Sep 03:13post reply

So an unexpected Shigeru Miyamoto just announced at the Apple event of today the new Super Mario Run for iPhone (later too for Android)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgA_qNvm8Mc

Did Apple covered Nintendo with a mountain of gold to have this (timed) exclusive?

They announced also a version of Pokemon Go for iWatch (for how long the battery of the watch can support that thing?)





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"Re(1):Super Mario Apple" , posted Thu 8 Sep 18:09post reply

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So an unexpected Shigeru Miyamoto just announced at the Apple event of today the new Super Mario Run for iPhone (later too for Android)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgA_qNvm8Mc

Did Apple covered Nintendo with a mountain of gold to have this (timed) exclusive?

They announced also a version of Pokemon Go for iWatch (for how long the battery of the watch can support that thing?)



Mario looks fun! I like how Miyamoto appeared on stage and proposed this revolutionary idea of paying "just once" for a game, and that's it! You get a whole complete, balanced game! CRAZY!

I wonder how this will work out for them. Since it's Mario it's sure to sell several million copies worldwide. It almost certainly won't make the obscene numbers of Clash of Clans or Pokemon Go, but it doesn't have to.

I wonder if it will trickle down into more support for paid games. My gut tells me that unless you're Nintendo or Minecraft, people probably aren't willing to fork over money for your mobile game and freemium will continue to be the way to go.

I recall when Monument Valley came out. A friend of mine was playing it. His coworker asked him "wow what is that? it looks great!" She was really impressed but upon learning it cost $2 she was like "WHAT NO THANK YOU?!" He had to point out that the game was less than a Starbucks coffee and would bring you 6-20 hours of pleasure. Then it finally clicked that maybe it's ok to pay for a game ahead of time, instead of paying to win later.

Anyway, I wish Nintendo the best of luck as they take the real plunge into mobile. I think they'll come up with some game changing, or at least, widely copied stuff, as they do.






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"Re(2):Super Mario Apple" , posted Thu 8 Sep 19:53post reply

I'm a huge Apple fan, so seeing the most iconic video game character ever jumping into the iOS world makes me ecstatic. Best luck Nintendo!!





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"Re(3):Super Mario Apple" , posted Thu 8 Sep 23:00post reply

It was a powerful image seeing Miyamoto promoting a Mario in the conference of another hardware developer company
This games look like the rayman run series, which are really entertaining, and they are not as easy as how they look, so I'm ok with this, since I'm sure that Nintendo will release something good.







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"Re(2):Super Mario Apple" , posted Thu 8 Sep 23:46post reply

My theory is that Mario and Pokémon on Apple are less about doing money selling these products and more about managing to force Apple to do a bit of curation and revoke all the Mario and Pokémon clones using their assets.
It would be weird to have Apple promoting copycats alongside the real thing for a fraction of the price, surely.
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"Re(3):Super Mario Apple" , posted Fri 9 Sep 03:12post reply

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My theory is that Mario and Pokémon on Apple are less about doing money selling these products and more about managing to force Apple to do a bit of curation and revoke all the Mario and Pokémon clones using their assets.
It would be weird to have Apple promoting copycats alongside the real thing for a fraction of the price, surely.
But then, Apple.



I would like to add also that Apple managed to take down in more than one occasion a legit game keeping on the store the chinese reverse-engineered-copy.







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"Re(4):Super Mario Apple" , posted Fri 9 Sep 06:40post reply

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My theory is that Mario and Pokémon on Apple are less about doing money selling these products and more about managing to force Apple to do a bit of curation and revoke all the Mario and Pokémon clones using their assets.
It would be weird to have Apple promoting copycats alongside the real thing for a fraction of the price, surely.
But then, Apple.


I would like to add also that Apple managed to take down in more than one occasion a legit game keeping on the store the chinese reverse-engineered-copy.

New Mario's new jumping animations actually feel fresh. Are half presses canon mechanic now? Well, hops did exist before but free style hops are new and well done.
I wonder when Luigi Run and Peach Run will follow.





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"TGS then, TGS now" , posted Fri 9 Sep 11:16:post reply

First, for a bit of retro news, I dug up and translated the announced lineup for the very first Tokyo Game Show, twenty years ago. Ubisoft already had a booth!

For the first time in a while, I actually feel TGS will be less boring than E3 and Gamescom. D3P has a very unique and strong lineup for the local market, whatever one might think of the good/bad taste they evoke. EDF5 will very likely be announced at Sony's conference, High School Zombie Killer seems like the many stupid Simple Series we used to get, and (unfortunately?) Happy Manager is the game that VR was made for in Japan. (All of them can be seen on sites like Gematsu.)

We'll get an improved PS4 with three iconic PS3 development hell failures coming to term (see first post), the return of SaGa (in video form), I am sure Falcom will tease Sen no Kiseki 3, I have very high hopes for this year's Ryū Ga Gotoku trailer (which is always more fun than the actual game comes out to be), we might have Zettai Zetsumei Toshi news, that other Granzella game with Godzilla and Evangelion might be there too, MH Stories seems to be taking the 3DS as far as it can, Megami Meguri seems at the very least an interesting oddity like Japanese publishers used to try out constantly, The Dark Souls IIII DLC wasn't playable at Gamescom yet, CyGames comes back but brought console games this year, Pokémon Go might help motivate people to actually visit the indie corner this time, Cospa has cool Neo Geo gear on sale... There's genuinely a lot of topics to cover!





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"Re(1):TGS then, TGS now" , posted Fri 9 Sep 12:05post reply

quote:
First, for a bit of retro news, I dug up and translated the announced lineup for the very first Tokyo Game Show, twenty years ago.

For the first time in a while, I actually feel TGS will be less boring than E3 and Gamescom. D3P has a very unique and strong lineup for the local market, whatever one might think of the good/bad taste they evoke. EDF5 will very likely be announced at Sony's conference, High School Zombie Killer seems like the many stupid Simple Series we used to get, and (unfortunately?) Happy Manager is the game that VR was made for in Japan. (All of them can be seen on sites like Gematsu.)

We'll get an improved PS4 with three iconic PS3 development hell failures coming to term (see first post), the return of SaGa (in video form), I am sure Falcom will tease Sen no Kiseki 3, I have very high hopes for this year's Ryū Ga Gotoku trailer (which is always more fun than the actual game comes out to be), we might have Zettai Zetsumei Toshi news, that other Granzella game with Godzilla and Evangelion might be there too, MH Stories seems to be taking the 3DS as far as it can, Megami Megumi seems at the very least an interesting oddity like Japanese publishers used to try out constantly, The Dark Souls IIII DLC wasn't playable at Gamescom yet, CyGames comes back but brought console games this year, Pokémon Go might help motivate pe

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That Sega lineup is beautiful:
Sega
Daytona USA Circuit Edition (SS)
Sega Ages: OutRun (SS)
Sega Ages: AfterBurner II (SS)
Sakura Taisen (SS) <clairement l'autre jeu du salon>
Virtua Cop 2 (SS)
Fighting Vipers (SS)
Riglord Saga 2 (SS)
Victory Goal Worldwide Edition (SS) <version "internationale" de V-Goal '96, alias WorldWide Soccer 97 chez nous, meilleure simu de foot en 1996~1997>
Virtual On (SS)

I'm definitely looking forward to seeing what the two secret items are in D3P's lineup, even if one of them is EDF5. As a frothing EDF fanboy, I will always welcome a new EDF from Sandlot, or any game involving giant things from Sandlot (Robot Alchemic Drive VR would be great....). It's kind of a weird feeling for D3P to be something to be really excited for at TGS, though.







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"Re(2):TGS then, EDF now" , posted Wed 14 Sep 02:45post reply

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There's nothing wrong with more EDF. Persona, Ni-Oh, yadda, yadda, yadda... that's nice but I'm spending 2017 shooting frog soldiers.

Speaking of crowd control, it seems as if Koei-Tecmo has condensed into a single ball of Musou.







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"Re(3):TGS then, EDF now" , posted Wed 14 Sep 17:29post reply

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Speaking of crowd control, it seems as if Koei-Tecmo has condensed into a single ball of Musou.



I'm all for it if it lets us fight an army of Kasumi clones, which isn't really possible in her native series.
And speaking of DoA, it warms my heart and its desire to see a Sega/SNK crossover that the week when Mai's released in DoA5 Last Round, VF's Akira and Pai also happen to be the freely-available characters in the game's F2P version.





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"Re(4):TGS then, EDF now" , posted Fri 16 Sep 04:01post reply

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And speaking of DoA, it warms my heart and its desire to see a Sega/SNK crossover that the week when Mai's released in DoA5 Last Round, VF's Akira and Pai also happen to be the freely-available characters in the game's F2P version.


Wow cool coincidence :D Not to mention some KOF entries feature the SEGA logo or name somewhere -KOFXI promotional poster because the Atomiswave is a Sega Sammy thing, and the KOFXIV U.S. site because of Atlus's current status.

I almost get moved to tears every freaking time I stumble upon "Nintendo Play Station" stuff. The demise of that collaboration is heavy on my heart. I know this machine's specifications are vastly inferior to the Mega CD and the Super CD-ROM -if I understood Ben Heck's comparison chart-, but hey, that prototype may be a tentative model destined to be drastically upgraded during its development cycle. Either that, or they wanted to pull off another GameBoy in the CD add-on market.
Besides, I believe the long term plan was to make a 32 bit, 3D focused Nintendo-Sony console...Play Station 2? after the Play Station, provided that the Nintendo-Sony partnership took off. I can't help but think how the balance in the video game world could be different if stuff like Tekken and Final Fantasy came out on such a system.
But what left me speechless is that I've only discovered the TCRF Super Disc page today and it was created in March, although I'm an avid TCRF fan. (I also like Unseen64, but I find TCRF more comfortable to browse)





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"SEGA ACQUIRES TECHNOSOFT LIBRARY" , posted Mon 19 Sep 04:07post reply

SEGA ACQUIRES TECHNOSOFT LIBRARY

Part of me is scared, because SEGA isn't exactly known for making really good decisions, and it would be awful to see this library of brilliance be squandered.

On the other hand, SEGA now has Relic, Creative Assembly, and Herzog Zwei under its umbrella. That is insane and incredible.





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"Re(1):SEGA ACQUIRES TECHNOSOFT LIBRARY" , posted Mon 19 Sep 12:47post reply

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SEGA ACQUIRES TECHNOSOFT LIBRARY

Part of me is scared, because SEGA isn't exactly known for making really good decisions, and it would be awful to see this library of brilliance be squandered.

On the other hand, SEGA now has Relic, Creative Assembly, and Herzog Zwei under its umbrella. That is insane and incredible.



I think that the acquisition is too random and specific to be worried about, sega will release a cool collection and that's it, I doubt that they will "hudson'd" the library





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"Re(2):SEGA ACQUIRES TECHNOSOFT LIBRARY" , posted Mon 19 Sep 17:05post reply

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SEGA ACQUIRES TECHNOSOFT LIBRARY

Part of me is scared, because SEGA isn't exactly known for making really good decisions, and it would be awful to see this library of brilliance be squandered.

On the other hand, SEGA now has Relic, Creative Assembly, and Herzog Zwei under its umbrella. That is insane and incredible.


I think that the acquisition is too random and specific to be worried about, sega will release a cool collection and that's it, I doubt that they will "hudson'd" the library



The only negative effect this may have is that Thunder Force V might get pulled down from PSN, which is not a huge deal.





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"Re(2):SEGA ACQUIRES TECHNOSOFT LIBRARY" , posted Mon 19 Sep 18:16post reply

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I think that the acquisition is too random and specific to be worried about, sega will release a cool collection and that's it, I doubt that they will "hudson'd" the library

That's my position as well.
And even if Sega were to follow the Konami route... well, it wouldn't be worse than the situation we had until last week.

On a similar note, Darius Burst CS aka "the Smash Bros of shmups" welcomes ships from Cave and 8ing in the latest DLC.
This is all nice and all, but can we also have new levels please? If possible from G-Darius?





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"Re(2):SEGA ACQUIRES TECHNOSOFT LIBRARY" , posted Tue 20 Sep 01:23post reply

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I think that the acquisition is too random and specific to be worried about, sega will release a cool collection and that's it, I doubt that they will "hudson'd" the library


True, "Thunder Force collection" is the first thing that came to my mind as I read the news :D One of the many franchises I still haven't given the attention they deserve...





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"Final AHAHA X" , posted Tue 20 Sep 17:31post reply

A HA HA HA

Tidus Fantasy X, to which he's replying to

Tidus Fantasy X can also be downloaded as a real working mod for the PC, all told it was a project that took more than 2 years to make.





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"Re(1):Final AHAHA X" , posted Tue 20 Sep 19:58post reply

That's insane. As a memetic stuff fan, a whole new world opened before my eyes ears.





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"Re(1):Final AHAHA X" , posted Tue 20 Sep 23:05:post reply

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A HA HA HA

Tidus Fantasy X, to which he's replying to
Ahahahahaha. People might be amazed to recall that Tidus (and even that laughing scene) sounds perfectly normal in the original. Some people thought his reading of his lines was a little wooden, but he was fine.

Mostly, I'm just happy that there is now a worthy follow-up to the highly musical Final Oiyoiyo XII.





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"SPLATBOOBS" , posted Tue 4 Oct 19:41post reply

Marvelous indeed.

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"Re(1):SPLATBOOBS" , posted Wed 5 Oct 04:46post reply

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Marvelous indeed.

I was so busy these last few weeks I missed reporting on most TGS news after all...



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"Re(2):SPLATBOOBS" , posted Wed 5 Oct 11:33post reply

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Marvelous indeed.

I was so busy these last few weeks I missed reporting on most TGS news after all...


Senran Kagura: Of the End (of Summer Vacation)

Thinking back on Japanese PC and even Saturn days, we've reached a fascinating point in human development where companies realize that people are willing to part with hard-earned cash not for hard-core porn, not for soft-corn porn, but for no-core porn.





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"Re(3):SPLATBOOBS" , posted Wed 5 Oct 15:45:post reply

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Marvelous indeed.

I was so busy these last few weeks I missed reporting on most TGS news after all...


Senran Kagura: Of the End (of Summer Vacation)
Thinking back on Japanese PC and even Saturn days, we've reached a fascinating point in human development where companies realize that people are willing to part with hard-earned cash not for hard-core porn, not for soft-corn porn, but for no-core porn.



The grades of porn are like food. Sure fried chicken and chips and sugary sodas are delicious. But you can't eat them all the time. It's unhealthy and furthermore, you might even just get tired of them. Even if you are horribly addicted to them, a salad once in a while is a nice break. Or maybe something reasonable like steamed chicken and rice, very easy to eat every day and not so bad for you.

In this metaphor, Senran Kagura is like Baked Cheetohs. Almost all of the flavor with a lot less fat and a lot more niche and difficult to find. You can eat a lot more of them before you start feeling sick. Also your friends will be all like "why don't you just get the real cheetohs?" and you're like "COS I PREFER THE BAKED ONES KAY? GET OFF MY BACK YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTA"--where was I going with this?

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"Re(4):SPLATBOOBS" , posted Wed 5 Oct 19:22post reply

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Senran Kagura is like Baked Cheetohs. Almost all of the flavor with a lot less fat
The scan tells a rather different story, though.





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"Re(5):SPLATBOOBS" , posted Wed 5 Oct 21:32post reply

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Senran Kagura is like Baked Cheetohs. Almost all of the flavor with a lot less fatThe scan tells a rather different story, though.



I have a phobia of broadway style musicals, but I really enjoyed that show! It was surprisingly good! Also surprisingly progressive for having an Asian American guy as the unattainable white buffalo chased by the viewer insert main character.

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"Re(6):SPLATBOOBS" , posted Wed 5 Oct 23:26post reply

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I have a phobia of broadway style musicals, but I really enjoyed that show! It was surprisingly good! Also surprisingly progressive for having an Asian American guy as the unattainable white buffalo chased by the viewer insert main character.
Yes! I converted half of the office to the show, and now we're painfully waiting for season 2. Only a couple of weeks!





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"Re(1):SPLATBOOBS" , posted Thu 6 Oct 01:55post reply

Ah, yesss...
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"Re(4):SPLATBOOBS" , posted Thu 6 Oct 13:20:post reply

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Anyway, it's important to maintain a healthy balanced diet.
Hahaha. Then again, it could be that we've traded natural sugar for low-grade saccharine.

Uh, the PC-98 through Saturn era is the sugar in this metaphor, I suppose.





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"Re(6):SPLATBOOBS" , posted Thu 6 Oct 19:28post reply

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Senran Kagura is like Baked Cheetohs. Almost all of the flavor with a lot less fatThe scan tells a rather different story, though.


I have a phobia of broadway style musicals, but I really enjoyed that show! It was surprisingly good! Also surprisingly progressive for having an Asian American guy as the unattainable white buffalo chased by the viewer insert main character.

(My god that dance looks painful! They're really giving it their all!)



I should watch that show sometime, some of the musical numbers are amazing on their own and are pretty eloquent about getting some points across in the story.





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"Re(8):The SPLAT Case" , posted Sat 8 Oct 03:12post reply

http://store.steampowered.com/app/476650/

The Silver Case HD remake, completely in English, has been released on Steam. I'm really looking forward to this game, because I remember seeing clips of it ages ago and thinking that it had an incredible visual verve.





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"Re(9):The SPLAT Case" , posted Sat 8 Oct 17:11post reply

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http://store.steampowered.com/app/476650/

The Silver Case HD remake, completely in English, has been released on Steam. I'm really looking forward to this game, because I remember seeing clips of it ages ago and thinking that it had an incredible visual verve.



That's the "prequel" to Flower, Sun & Rain, right?
I played FSR on DS and it was... a really particular experience :D
Would like to try it but I don't play on PC, chances that they will port it on consoles?





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"Re(10):The SPLAT Case" , posted Sat 8 Oct 21:33post reply

That is a pet peeve of mine. Technically a "prequel" (as in "sequel happening previously") was coined for The Phantom Menace, and denotes new releases which are situated chronologically before the event of the previous episode. I wonder why such a neologism suddenly become synonym with "predecessor" / "precursor" / "precedent" / "previous episode" / "preceding episode" / many proper terms already available.

But yes, The Silver Case was Suda51's first game with his new studio Grasshopper Manufacture, after he left Human, on PS1. Many characters and crucial plot elements of the PS2 game Flower, Sun & Rain are connected to The Silver Case, and FSR can be considered a sequel to that game. Which make The Silver Case the preceding episode to FSR. There are also apparently some connections between the plot of The Silver Case and the Syndrome series (on which Suda also worked at Human).

Speaking of popular Japanese adventure games of the 90s, the Saturn version of Policenauts finally received an English patch, as you can see here.





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"Re(2):Re(10):The SPLAT Case" , posted Sat 8 Oct 23:45post reply

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That is a pet peeve of mine. Technically a "prequel" (as in "sequel happening previously") was coined for The Phantom Menace,


While Phantom Menace might have popularized the word for some in the modern era, "prequel" was coined decades earlier. The term's origin is apparently attributed to the 1950's, and had already seen use before any Star Wars film reached theaters.





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"Re(2):Re(10):The SPLAT Case" , posted Sun 9 Oct 00:39post reply

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"Re(2):Re(10):The SPLAT Case" , posted Sun 9 Oct 00:41post reply

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That is a pet peeve of mine. Technically a "prequel" (as in "sequel happening previously") was coined for The Phantom Menace, and denotes new releases which are situated chronologically before the event of the previous episode. I wonder why such a neologism suddenly become synonym with "predecessor" / "precursor" / "precedent" / "previous episode" / "preceding episode" / many proper terms already available.



Sorry, I do know that The Silver Case was made before FSR, but when I was writing my post, as english is not my mother language, "prequel" was the only word that jumped in my mind to describe it.
I agree that it's a bit incorrect to use the term "prequel" in this case.





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• Thanks Baines. Do you know which work it was used for first? I guess a book?

• I am sure most people who have not bought Persona 5's Japanese version yet are waiting for the English version to come out, but just in case, tomorrow Monday 10 October is the last day to download the free costumes DLC (Catherine pack and Swimsuits pack) for the game. You can download them directly from the PS Store. I assume they will turn to paid download around midnight JST.

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"Re(1):Persona 5 free costumes" , posted Sun 9 Oct 12:12post reply

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• Klei's critically acclaimed Invisible, Inc. is now available on iPad.



Invisible Inc. is a game I really like and really don't like. Being a roguelike, the RNG level design can completely screw you, the lethal weapons feel like vestiges from an earlier design of the game that annoy me whenever they show up as loot because the lethal weapons are so awful, arguably one of the big challenges of the game is figuring out just how much to grind the missions for in order to be able to have an adequate crew/gear to handle the final mission.... but the sneaking mechanics are generally very well thought-out, the notion of a sneaking-based roguelike is neat, I like cyberpunk settings, the presentation is generally excellent, and the characters look cool.

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"Re(1):Persona 5 free costumes" , posted Sun 9 Oct 14:53post reply

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• Thanks Baines. Do you know which work it was used for first? I guess a book?


To try to find a specific source, I looked online. Which was...interesting. Mainly because there are two conflicting periods.

The various free online dictionaries seem to all cite some point in the 1970s as the origin of the word, with none giving any source.

The alternative is the Oxford English Dictionary, which I've seen repeatedly seen sourced by others as giving the word a specific origin year of 1958. (Online articles as well as the book English Lexicogenesis give this year, crediting the OED as their source.) The problem with going direct to the source for more details is that the OED's online presence is a paid subscription service.

That leaves Wikipedia, which is always questionable... Interestingly enough, Wikipedia's page for "prequel" does mention the OED, and goes further by claiming that the OED itself cites a 1958 sci-fi magazine article as the first use of the word in print. Specifically, an article by Magazine of Science Fiction & Fantasy editor Anthony Butcher, referring to the 1956 story They Shall Have Stars by James Blish, a prequel to Blish's 1955 story Earthman Come Home. (But since the source link is to a spot behind the OED's subscription wall, I can't confirm that citation.)

Wikipedia goes on to connect the term, via some dubious wording in an old Salon article, to the 1979 film Butch and Sundance: The Early Days.





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"Re(1):Persona 5 free costumes" , posted Mon 10 Oct 12:33post reply

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• I am sure most people who have not bought Persona 5's Japanese version yet are waiting for the English version to come out, but just in case, tomorrow Monday 10 October is the last day to download the free costumes DLC (Catherine pack and Swimsuits pack) for the game. You can download them directly from the PS Store. I assume they will turn to paid download around midnight JST.



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"Re(2):Persona 5 free costumes" , posted Tue 11 Oct 06:42post reply

quote:

I wonder why such a neologism suddenly become synonym with "predecessor" / "precursor" / "precedent" / "previous episode" / "preceding episode" / many proper terms already available.



quote:

The various free online dictionaries seem to all cite some point in the 1970s as the origin of the word, with none giving any source.

The alternative is the Oxford English Dictionary, which I've seen repeatedly seen sourced by others as giving the word a specific origin year of 1958. (Online articles as well as the book English Lexicogenesis give this year, crediting the OED as their source.) The problem with going direct to the source for more details is that the OED's online presence is a paid subscription service.

That leaves Wikipedia, which is always questionable... Interestingly enough, Wikipedia's page for "prequel" does mention the OED, and goes further by claiming that the OED itself cites a 1958 sci-fi magazine article as the first use of the word in print. Specifically, an article by Magazine of Science Fiction & Fantasy editor Anthony Butcher, referring to the 1956 story They Shall Have Stars by James Blish, a prequel to Blish's 1955 story Earthman Come Home. (But since the source link is to a spot behind the OED's subscription wall, I can't confirm that citation.)

Wikipedia goes on to connect the term, via some dubious wording in an old Salon article, to the 1979 film Butch and Sundance: The Early Days.




Well, "prequel" is useful because with one word you can immediately convey three distinct things simultaneously without any room for error.

1. The work in question is related to an existing fiction/body of work.

2. The work in question occurs earlier in the chronology of this existing fiction/body of work.

3. The work in question is not the seminal work in the series; it builds on ideas/characters/concepts that already exist.


If I hear someone talking about a film's predecessor or a previous episode, I'm going to assume that it's older... that this precursor was actually conceived and created by the author/artist first and is an earlier expression of their ideas. I don't have any other info to go on unless you tell me that this episode is "new" or "the latest addition to the series" or something like that. And at that point I may already have a preconceived notion that needs to be corrected, and there's the possibility for some type of misunderstanding.

Prequel may be something that someone pulled out of their ass, but it saves a lot of words.

I'm personally more annoyed by "Episode Zero." Zero is the absence of something, it has no value. It's nothing at all! So why would I want to watch it? You'd better have some good cover art or be Gackt to really pique my curiosity.





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Thumper is out early and you should buy it.

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"Re(1):Thumper! THUMPER! THUMP!" , posted Tue 11 Oct 23:39post reply

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Thumper looks like the scarab from Journey album covers is going up against the arcade game Tempest and the arcade cabinet art for Tempest. I can't imagine what it's like to play since even the YouTube videos are trippy as all hell. Still, the throbbing, oppressive "music" is better than pretty much anything Journey put out.

quote:
The alternative is the Oxford English Dictionary, which I've seen repeatedly seen sourced by others as giving the word a specific origin year of 1958. (Online articles as well as the book English Lexicogenesis give this year, crediting the OED as their source.) The problem with going direct to the source for more details is that the OED's online presence is a paid subscription service.

That leaves Wikipedia, which is always questionable... Interestingly enough, Wikipedia's page for "prequel" does mention the OED, and goes further by claiming that the OED itself cites a 1958 sci-fi magazine article as the first use of the word in print. Specifically, an article by Magazine of Science Fiction & Fantasy editor Anthony Butcher, referring to the 1956 story They Shall Have Stars by James Blish, a prequel to Blish's 1955 story Earthman Come Home. (But since the source link is to a spot behind the OED's subscription wall, I can't confirm that citation.)

For what it's worth, I looked up "prequel" in the OED and can confirm it lists the 1958 article as the first quotation of the word. By 1973 "prequel" was used in a London Times article about The Silmarillon so it looks like it was a word that developed in genre writing and since then has been spreading into common usage.







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"Re(2):Thumper! THUMPER! THUMP!" , posted Wed 12 Oct 10:37post reply

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or what it's worth, I looked up "prequel" in the OED and can confirm it lists the 1958 article as the first quotation of the word.


That's nice to know. I'd run into sources quoting the OED, but had no way of checking myself, and it was weird seeing all those free online dictionaries saying the term only dated back to the 70s.

Funny thing is, there is a slight chance I actually had the 1958 magazine in question at some point. I used to own a ton of such old sci-fi magazines that I'd grabbed for cheap from an old (long closed for decades) book store that had itself gotten them from somewhere.







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"Re(3):Thumper! THUMPER! THUMP!" , posted Wed 12 Oct 11:08post reply

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or what it's worth, I looked up "prequel" in the OED and can confirm it lists the 1958 article as the first quotation of the word.

That's nice to know. I'd run into sources quoting the OED, but had no way of checking myself, and it was weird seeing all those free online dictionaries saying the term only dated back to the 70s.

Funny thing is, there is a slight chance I actually had the 1958 magazine in question at some point. I used to own a ton of such old sci-fi magazines that I'd grabbed for cheap from an old (long closed for decades) book store that had itself gotten them from somewhere.



The Foundation books by Asimov absolutely had a prequel, with original collected stories having been written in the late 40's/early 50's, while the book Prelude to Foundation was published in the 80's. Prelude to Foundation is very much a prequel, detailing events that occurred prior to the first set of the Foundation stories. I'm quite sure that Prelude to Foundation was described even then as a "prequel", but it being a product of the 80s puts it pretty far off of the earliest reported occurrences of the word. Nevertheless, as an influential science fiction story, it certainly predates the Phantom Menace. I would not be surprised if the Phantom Menace represented the entry of the word into the mainstream consciousness and lexicon, though.





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Meanwhile in the west we are still waiting for a localization of Dai Gyakuten Saiban, and still had the last game only as a digital delivery, despite all the (empty) promises of Crapcom.





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"Re(2):Gyakuten 15" , posted Thu 13 Oct 12:54post reply

I agree it's annoying that a Western version of Daigyakuten Saiban never came through, although I assume there must be a good reason, as the digital Western sales seem stable enough to secure profits. The fact they never clearly explained (I believe?) what's problematic lead me to believe there is either a legal or PR issue with the game contents.

On the other hand, what's bothering you with the way they handled GS6? It came through very fast, barely a couple of months after the Japanese version. That was quite the effort on their part compared to GS5 (and light years faster than the previous games). It seems clear the retail/package version was too big of a risk for Capcom so personally I am fine with the digital compromise (especially since they lowered the price from 39$/39€ to a more reasonable 29$/29€) as long as it comes quickly and simultaneously in all Western regions so fans worldwide can enjoy the game and discuss together. But I understand if you really dislike digital purchases in general.

On that note, I am on constant business trips these days and GS6 happens to be my current journey companion. The game started too slowly and I find the cases too long but I am liking the game more and more as I progress into the story. The "fantasy Tibet" set-up is certainly more engaging than I expected.




I wonder what Harada will think of this game.
A pornoparody was inevitable but the character design is literally identical. That is gonna be tough to swallow, as the girl in the video might say herself at some point.





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"Re(3):Gyakuten 15" , posted Thu 13 Oct 14:21post reply

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I find the cases too long


It has almost certainly the longest final case in the history of the series.

I think my final play time for this game, having not yet done the DLC case, is nearly 40 hours. It's substantial!

One of the odd things about this game character-wise for me is that there seems to be a very high proportion of anime-beautiful girls/women in the game. I liked how in the GBA ones, there were certainly beautiful women, but they came alongside a zany cast of characters with all kinds of unusual faces. There were "cute" girls who weren't typical anime moe looking, whether it was Maya/Mayoi or Pearl/Harumi, glamorous women that had creases and wrinkles on their faces, and women that were not at all ugly but weren't being pushed as gorgeous/beautiful/anime-cute like Lotta/Natsumi.

Though I get that the "line of thinking" thing you do at the climax of a case is meant to be more 3D, I don't think it looks as good as the inky one of AA5, whose energy and intensity were fantastic to me.

Even though it feels a little disjointed at times, overall I still think I like it more than AA5, and certainly more than AA4. It's fairly difficult for any game to capture the magic of the first experience of AA1, or the capstone climax of AA3, but I like that the outcome of AA6 has significant implications for the AA universe and its characters.







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"Re(3):Gyakuten 15" , posted Thu 13 Oct 18:41post reply

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I assume there must be a good reason, as the digital Western sales seem stable enough to secure profits. The fact they never clearly explained (I believe?) what's problematic lead me to believe there is either a legal or PR issue with the game contents.
My own assumptions are: either Capcom is afraid too many GS games in the west is going to over-saturate the franchise there, or internal politics.
As in, the franchise is now in the hands of a team whose job is to keep the series going as long as possible in Japan AND the west, hence capitalizing on safe aspects: fanservice, pretty characters and a setting less annoying to localize (fantasy Tibet). On another wing of the Capcom office, Takushu can do his auteur thing the way he wants, without having to bend his writing for the (perceived needs of the) international market. I'm not sure the case centered around the parody of Souseki Natsume would have been greenlit without this arrangement, for example.
Hopefully that means he can lead DGS the way he wants, end it when he wants without having the pressure to keep going because "people want more", and then move to another Ghost-Trick type of jewel.





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"Re(3):Gyakuten 15" , posted Fri 14 Oct 03:29post reply

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On the other hand, what's bothering you with the way they handled GS6? It came through very fast, barely a couple of months after the Japanese version. That was quite the effort on their part compared to GS5 (and light years faster than the previous games). It seems clear the retail/package version was too big of a risk for Capcom so personally I am fine with the digital compromise (especially since they lowered the price from 39$/39€ to a more reasonable 29$/29€) as long as it comes quickly and simultaneously in all Western regions so fans worldwide can enjoy the game and discuss together. But I understand if you really dislike digital purchases in general.



Yeah, I dislike games available only in DD, having a choice between physical and digital make happy everyone, forcing everyone to accept DD it's not a good thing especially when availability of DD games depends on agreements that can expire and so games disappear from digital stores overnight.
For PW probably this will not happen, but I still dislike having a file on a SD card against a box on my shelf.







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"Re(4):Gyakuten 15" , posted Fri 14 Oct 03:50post reply

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and a setting less annoying to localize (fantasy Tibet).



It's interesting to me that in the English localization, they explicitly mention that Wright/Naruhodo's office is in America, which is also where the village that Maya/Mayoi is from. I don't know if they ever clearly stated that the games didn't take place in Japan in the previous localized releases.





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"Re(4):Gyakuten 15" , posted Fri 14 Oct 04:21post reply

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My own assumptions are: either Capcom is afraid too many GS games in the west is going to over-saturate the franchise there, or internal politics.

Ah but of course! Capcom's famed aversion for saturating the market.

I understand where you are coming from but it does not make sense to me that they would stop the release DGS for fear it would not be accepted in the Western market, when it makes prominent use of possibly the most iconic character in the history of Western literature since Jesus. They have been bending over backwards with the "this is happening in LA" charade, almost to the point of self-parody at this stage (the recent translations are clearly tongue-in-cheek on this specific topic), so I really don't think a cameo/reference to a Japanese author would be such a big issue. Are we supposed to believe that most Japanese fans know who are the people on their banknotes?

I am more thinking of something like, there'd be a minor necessary clearance with the use of the Sherlock IP, or something which is specifically copyrighted about his look which they forgot to get clearance from before they released DGS in Japan, and now going through the process would not only endanger the Western release of the game but would also retroactively make DGS wrong in Japan, or something to that effect. From my experience, that's more the kind of typical reason why some games get mysteriously stuck in Japan.

Or it's a conspiracy and nobody wants Takushu to succeed again. Or it's a mighty conspiracy and Takushu requested not to make the game too successful because success only brings him trouble while failure and disappointment is a much calmer sea to calmly drown into.

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That's a good question. I don't think localizing was the main reason for this setting. Playing the game, it seems to me they built the entire thing backwards. I don't necessarily mean that in a negative way, although it would connote priorities which might explain some issues I have with the game.

I join you on the analysis "they are thinking long term". But I rather think it went like this: they first decided what they wanted to have achieved with this new game, and where they wanted the characters to be standing at the end of the game.

I won't go into details of the story and characters development to avoid spoiling someone who wants to play GS6 soon, but I think a good example which doesn't spoil too much is Mayoi(Maya). As touted in the promo of the game, GS6 is her big comeback. So first, they needed a reason to kinda explain where she had been. Then, they needed a reason for her to come back (and/or be in danger again). Also, they needed a way to set up where they wanted her to be at the end of the game.

GS5 was all about erasing the mistakes of GS4: improving the personality of Odoroki(Apollo) and find a new role for him in the series, bring back Naruhodo(Phoenix) as the main character and a more relatable protagonist, etc. GS6 is all about "what people like are the original cast, let's find a way to bring back Mayoi together with Naruhodo while still finding a place for all those new characters to contribute, and conclude some story arcs we had never really resolved".

Meanwhile, juggling with all these considerations, they also need (or at least they assume they need) some new gimmick, like the bracelet in GS4 or the emotion scanner in GS5, to bring a different approach and a fresh experience to the trials. I think this is highly debatable, but whatevs, it seems to be their direction : each new game needs it's new gimmick.

With all these considerations in mind, they had to built a story and a context which could comply with all the targets. Fantasy Tibet ends up doing a pretty good job in that regard. That's where Mayoi went studying, because it's the origin of the Kurain sect. Since it's a brand new setting, a few more loose ends are tied conveniently. And since the gimmick they found is "let's see through the eyes of the victim when they die", they added that magic princess. And since they added the magic princess, they had to put her into the plot. And to put her into the plot, let's consider the royal family. But why would Naruhodo actually act as a lawyer there, in the first place? A-ha, let's say there are literally no other lawyers in that country. But why would there be no lawyers? Well, let's make that the big mystery behind the main plot. Etc.





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"Re(5):Gyakuten 15" , posted Fri 14 Oct 04:55post reply

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Are we supposed to believe that most Japanese fans know who are the people on their banknotes?



This is a point that I have literally no knowledge about!

In the USA, the faces on the banknotes are VERY well known people. George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Ben Franklin, etc. Sure not everybody might know detailed history about them, but everybody recognizes them and can name them. They are, in fact, American icons.

In Canada, it's a bit less so. We known that's Queen Elizabeth, we probably know that's John A McDonald, but I can assure you that nobody in my family would remember Robert Borden off the top of their heads (including myself!).

What's the case in Japan with Japanese currency?







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"Re(6):Gyakuten 15" , posted Fri 14 Oct 07:02post reply

I really doubt any Japanese adult wouldn't know who Sôseki is and what he looks like. It's like asking whether French people know what Mona Lisa is. I doubt 100% knows about the London thing, but anyone who listened during high school probably knows.
I mean, Higuchi Ichiyô (on the 5000 bills) is a minor figure compared to Sôseki, and she's still recognizable enough for this.

I was being ironic with being worried with oversaturation. But the idea of building the scenario in reverse is interesting...
I'd still like to know what Takushu is doing with his life.





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"Re(7):Gyakuten 15" , posted Fri 14 Oct 09:33:post reply

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I doubt 100% knows about the London thing, but anyone who listened during high school probably knows.



That's more specifically what I was was talking about. I know Sōseki is famous enough (although he has been replaced on the 1000 note recently) that any Japanese adult would generally know his identity, but I am not convinced fans of Gyakuten Saiban would know anything substantial about his life and understand the references in the game. The same way that I am sure most French people could recognize a picture of Victor Hugo or Emile Zola, but I am pessimistic enough to assume a reference to a similar episode of their life inside a video game would fly over most French gamers' head. Maybe my opinion on the average player's culture is too grim.

Regarding Takushu, he is still employed and active at Capcom, unless there is some shocking news looming and we learn he is not directly involved in DGS2, so that means he is getting paid to do what he enjoys. And he seems to have foregone any desire to go higher in hierarchy, since he keeps getting new producers above him, which means he does not have to deal with any managerial bullshit or even production/promotional issues. He wasn't even at the DGS2 reveal event for the 15th anniversary stage show at TGS, which... OK, that was a bit weird, but maybe he is happy not to do that anymore? At the very least, that means he can focus on writing stories and developing ideas, which I would assume fits what he really wants to spend time on.





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"Re(8):Gyakuten 15" , posted Fri 14 Oct 18:54post reply

Could it be that GS as a series is more popular amongst people with a slightly higher cultural background than your average mobile game / Danganronpa? Or also that they are older?

Or maybe that DaiGS is aimed towards this particular demographics, while GS6 aimed to a wider audience?
For example, I know the new Sherlock Holmes series is popular in Japan, but it would be interesting to know the average profile of the fans.





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Could it be that GS as a series is more popular amongst people with a slightly higher cultural background than your average mobile game / Danganronpa? Or also that they are older?

Or maybe that DaiGS is aimed towards this particular demographics, while GS6 aimed to a wider audience?
For example, I know the new Sherlock Holmes series is popular in Japan, but it would be interesting to know the average profile of the fans.



Maybe? No idea about the average cultural background of GS players. I do agree they probably skew older overall, and for sure more female than the average 3DS user. If only because I am not sure the series has recruited so many new fans since the GBA/DS era.

I am also quite curious about who makes up the DGS userbase. You have a very optimisitic theory. As you know, I am a rather skeptical person so I rarely vote my confidence for the best possible outcome Humanity could spawn. I'd rather expect the slighty smaller DGS audience to be mostly composed of a subset of GS fans who'd buy anything Gyakuten-relatd, even Gyakuten Tennis or Gyakuten Puyo Puyo. Of course there must be a niche of true Takushu fans like you (or other lapsed GS players who came back for other reasons), and some newcomers.

I think the missed opportunity with DGS is definitely the lack of newcomers and I wonder why more people did not bite for a reboot. It was a great opportunity to jump in, in the same way GS6 is the worst possible opportunity to jump in.

That being said, I would not be surprised if DGS2 improved the situation, especially if they apply the usual long-tail strategy and release the Best hits version of DGS, then the iPhone version, + the usual good sales of the used copies as the promotion of DGS2 ramps up, all those opportunities grabbing more players for DGS and getting more people excited for DGS2. I am sure many regular GS players thought « I'll give DGS a chance later/cheaper » because they were not sure the new setting would work out for them, or they were getting tired of the series at that point.

After all, GS remains the poster child of long-tail sales and word-of-mouth adoption, and this has happened on a worldwide scale. That's precisely why they can't rely on retail in the West anymore: with each episode the potentiel users took way to long to want the game, and then complained they could not find it anymore.

Which brings me back to my initial point: in many ways, Gyakuten's Western fans act the same way as Japanese fans. And they already had to swallow some insane contrivances and blurred references when the original trilogy got adapted, so it's not like a literary reference going over their head was gonna be a huge issue either.

Cap deliberately left money on the table despite the worst subset of Western fans harassing them on social media to release DGS in the West. Occam's Razor says we should not look too far for a valid reason why. It's probably some third party being too greedy or too procedural to let them release the game.





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"Re(6):Gyakuten 15" , posted Sat 15 Oct 00:59post reply

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In the USA, the faces on the banknotes are VERY well known people. George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Ben Franklin, etc. Sure not everybody might know detailed history about them, but everybody recognizes them and can name them. They are, in fact, American icons.


I think you might be over-estimating American knowledge. If you showed an average American a $20 bill and asked them who was pictured on it, I'd bet a fair number couldn't tell you "Andrew Jackson", much less tell you anything about him.

People know George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, because they are hammered into them via the school system. People know Franklin for the same reason, though I wouldn't be entirely surprised if you managed to find a few people who didn't make the connection that $100 bills are called "Benjamins" because they picture Benjamin Franklin.

People might recognize Grant's name, since he was a major Civil War figure. Jackson, they might recognize the name but not know for what (and some will just assume that he is a President because he's on a bill. Just as you can get people who think Franklin was a President if you make that president-bill connection first.) Hamilton? Not very likely at all.

Jefferson, people would have recognized his name, but so few places want to even bother with the $2 bill that you hardly ever see one, and there is a common (incorrect) belief that the bill is no longer in circulation and/or is a collector's item.







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"Re(7):Gyakuten 15" , posted Sat 15 Oct 05:28post reply

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I think you might be over-estimating American knowledge. If you showed an average American a $20 bill and asked them who was pictured on it, I'd bet a fair number couldn't tell you "Andrew Jackson", much less tell you anything about him.

People know George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, because they are hammered into them via the school system. People know Franklin for the same reason, though I wouldn't be entirely surprised if you managed to find a few people who didn't make the connection that $100 bills are called "Benjamins" because they picture Benjamin Franklin.

When we used to have Francs, I think everyone knew who was Delacroix (100F) or later Saint-Exupéry (50F), because there was a big hint on the other side of the bill (boobs, Prince). I don't think anyone would have recognized them if not for the hint. For example I only learnt that was supposed to be Debussy now.
Eiffel and the Curie, from the later generation, were very obvious too.

I grew up with the boring bills (mostly brown and grey, the Early 2000 AAA videogame palette), full of people I didn't, and still don't, really care about (except Debussy, he's cool). The following ones, with the garish red and almost neon blue, were much better but short lived because of the Euro. I regret I didn't get to use those, though. At least no one would have asked who's the guy on this bill.





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"Re(8):Gyakuten 15" , posted Sat 15 Oct 11:51:post reply

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Eiffel and the Curie, from the later generation, were very obvious too.


Man, in retrospect, that final generation of French Francs was pretty cool, both for its visual execution and via the roster of characters. Too bad it got squeezed out so quickly because it came out at the wrong time. It's the Street Fighter III 3rd Strike of French banknotes.

I remember in the mid-Nineties, the Swiss deliberately picked a roster of "Famous Swiss who nobody outside Switzerland realizes they are Swiss" (like Le Corbusier, Giacometti or Honegger) in order to educate foreigners involved with Swiss Francs. I am sure Pablo Escobar would have appreciated the effort if they came quickly enough.



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Thumper gets amazing around Level 4. I love that, instead of being forced to follow one unique proper pattern, you can improve and invent your own combos by diverting the original intended route/actions into a new logical sequence you improvised on the spot. I wholeheartedly recommend this game to any human being or sentient AI.





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"Hunting caribou 2" , posted Fri 21 Oct 01:08post reply

That's a nice ad for Xbox Scorpio.





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That's a nice ad for Xbox Scorpio.


Glad to know RDR2 exists in some form or another. With the lack of information it's hard to get too excited but any game that lets me ride a horse with a six-shooter on my hip automatically has my attention.





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"Re(999):The Silver SuitCase" , posted Tue 25 Oct 03:28post reply

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http://store.steampowered.com/app/476650/

The Silver Case HD remake, completely in English, has been released on Steam. I'm really looking forward to this game, because I remember seeing clips of it ages ago and thinking that it had an incredible visual verve.



The Silver Case will be available next year also on PS4 in Europe (and I think also USA), digital and physical!
NIS America is working on the localization.







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"Re(1):RANDOM GAMES! #33: The Trilogy of Error" , posted Sun 30 Oct 07:55:post reply

Random game I didn't even play but I'm curious: does anyone know a game called Duelyst?
It's a card-gane online with F2P mechanics like Hearthstone but with a tactical phase.
I haven't played it because I discovered it after the release of Civ 6 so sorry no time Teddy Roosevelt needs his butt to be kicked, but this pixel art is very MMC-compliant.
Those will probably remind you of a fighting game or Fire Emblem character or a Pokémon.
Does anyone play it? I wouldn't be surprised it someone here worked on the game or knows someone who did.





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"Re(2):RANDOM GAMES! #33: The Trilogy of Error" , posted Sun 30 Oct 08:43post reply

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Random game I didn't even played but I'm curious: does anyone knows a game called Duelyst?
It's a card-gane online with F2P mechanics like Hearthstone but with a tactical phase.
I haven't played it because I discovered it after the release of Civ 6 so sorry no time Teddy Roosevelt needs his butt to be kicked, but this pixel art is very MMC-compliant.
Those will probably remind you of a fighting game or Fire Emblem character or a Pokémon.
Does anyone play it? I wouldn't be surprised it someone here worked on the game or knows someone who did.



There were people at my old office that loved the game to bits. I didn't want to play it because of its PVP focus, even though it is a nice looking game.





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"Re(3):RANDOM GAMES! #33: The Trilogy of Error" , posted Tue 1 Nov 03:56:post reply

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Random game I didn't even played but I'm curious: does anyone knows a game called Duelyst?
It's a card-gane online with F2P mechanics like Hearthstone but with a tactical phase.
I haven't played it because I discovered it after the release of Civ 6 so sorry no time Teddy Roosevelt needs his butt to be kicked, but this pixel art is very MMC-compliant.
Those will probably remind you of a fighting game or Fire Emblem character or a Pokémon.
Does anyone play it? I wouldn't be surprised it someone here worked on the game or knows someone who did.


There were people at my old office that loved the game to bits. I didn't want to play it because of its PVP focus, even though it is a nice looking game.



I actually tried this game when it was in beta last year. The art is pretty great!

Unfortunately the same free-to-play grind that killed my interest in other games struck here as well. First I play a bit and get used to it. If I'm enjoying it I keep playing, but I start to get tired of using the same cards/units to grind out wins. No matter how well the game is balanced, every once in a while you lose a match to someone you know you outplayed but who has a better deck.

Then I look at the available pool and think of the strategies I want to try out, and then feel bummed out or resentful when I don't get the cards/units I want (the resentment is usually triggered by spending money).

It's happening now with the Gwent beta, actually. In a way it's nice to be able to sample games for free and get out before they consume too much of my time, but I usually do end up spending a number of hours grinding to try and get what I want before I admit that it's not going to happen. Sometimes I have spent a modest amount of money and quit right after.... did I pay out of guilt for playing so long, even if a lot of it was grinding? Or did I pay with the naive hope that I'm going to get all most dynamic, useful, fun and powerful cards in one go?

Well, if you'll excuse me I'm going to go disenchant (they call it mill) a bunch of cards that I may want to use later. My personality draws me to these things, but it also ruins them for me.





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"Wangan Midnight Video Game Series" , posted Fri 4 Nov 22:47:post reply

I would like to ask the café opinions and experiences on the Wangan Midnight series. Post your thoughts similar to the questions asked on the classic fighting game thread. How well did this video game series do in Japan? During my experience, every arcade that had a Wangan Midnight game, there was a huge crowd. Even during my times in various Asian countries. However, I did not come across much information regarding home console releases. No one really spoke about it. I would always hear everyone going to the arcades to play and meet up with groups that drew many people in. It looks like a fun game and I played it a couple of times. I was able to get the soundtracks lately and they sound pretty awesome. I would like to play the latest game and see how much has improved and what’s new. I never knew there was a manga, anime, and films for this series. Any fans out there?





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"Re(1):Wangan Midnight Video Game Series" , posted Sat 5 Nov 12:31post reply

Wangan Midnight! I believe you are in good company at the Cafe, since I remember threads eeeeevery so often where people talk about how perfect the music is, among other things. I've never really played the game (I think?), but I've yet to ever find a tune with as excellent a name as Atheist on the Highway, and the record will show that Fun-Loving Spirit is one of my very favorite racing tracks ever, after the Daytona tracks. Personal experience: I've done some serious speeding to Fun-Loving Spirit, which almost got me a ticket as quickly as zipping around to the Lupin III '89 theme.





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Xanadu Next has been released on Steam in English. Is this the same Xanadu that chaz so often spoke fondly of?







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"High School Reunion Pics" , posted Mon 7 Nov 08:25post reply

Browsing through my twitter feed as I usually do and I came across this wonderful gathering of some of our favorite high school students. Looking closer, I think this Boman might need to say some extra prayers to make up for his transgression.







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"Re(1):Justice High School Reunion Pics" , posted Mon 7 Nov 09:15post reply

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Browsing through my twitter feed as I usually do and I came across this wonderful gathering of some of our favorite high school students. Looking closer, I think this Boman might need to say some extra prayers to make up for his transgression.

Gieflos has proven that his heart burns with ENDLESS JUSTICE

As if to celebrate this splendid Justice High School Reunion (where is the class of '97 now, exactly 19 (!) years later?), the Mikado Super Street Fighter Carnival has a great showcase of Moero Justice Gakuen.

Fast-forward straight to a great match on the Taiyou Gakuen rooftop featuring A: the joyous harmonica Spoon identified in the SF Lore thread, and B: hilarious air-walking glitching I don't remember from the PS1 original at all. Yeah, it's busted, but everyone loves it, listen to the fun they're having!





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"Re(2):Justice High School Reunion Pics" , posted Tue 8 Nov 00:33post reply

That Batsu might actually be cosplaying as Riki Takeuchi.





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"Re(2):Wangan Midnight Video Game Series" , posted Wed 9 Nov 23:22post reply

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Wangan Midnight! I believe you are in good company at the Cafe, since I remember threads eeeeevery so often where people talk about how perfect the music is, among other things. I've never really played the game (I think?), but I've yet to ever find a tune with as excellent a name as Atheist on the Highway, and the record will show that Fun-Loving Spirit is one of my very favorite racing tracks ever, after the Daytona tracks. Personal experience: I've done some serious speeding to Fun-Loving Spirit, which almost got me a ticket as quickly as zipping around to the Lupin III '89 theme.


Oh wow nice. I did not know nor remember those threads. I will go and take a look at them. I know a new WM game called MT5DX is out in arcades now. Thank for the info.





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"The Effects of Mass" , posted Fri 11 Nov 03:03post reply

Instead of posting about contentious real life incidents I thought I should post about contentious games, namely Mass Effect! The new trailer for ME Andromeda dropped recently and news about the game is starting to bubble out. Since there's mostly just talk right now my thoughts on the game could change quite a bit once some videos are released but so far the PR stuff sounds positive. Some early thoughts:

The ability to mix and match skills sounds like it could create some fun styles. While I'm certain I will spend hours tinkering with my character's face it's entirely possible I'll spend hours goofing around with power combinations. Perhaps at some point I'll play the actual game. The introduction of extra melee weapons such as hammers and swords makes me hopeful I can re-create the crazy characters such as those cyber ninja that were in ME3 multiplayer.

It sounds like you will investigating world upon world of waist high walls. Cover based shooting is the true universal language.

The creators are going to keep trying to make a land vehicle until they get it right. Still, I don't think anything is going to beat the cockroach-like Mako with it's indestructible hull and ability to drive vertically up mountains.

It's frustrating that they have yet to show profiles of the characters. BioWare games are just fancy dating sims so I need to start planning on who my future space girl/boyfriend is going to be.





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"Re(1):The Effects of Mass" , posted Fri 11 Nov 06:31:post reply

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Instead of posting about contentious real life incidents I thought I should post about contentious games, namely Mass Effect! The new trailer for ME Andromeda dropped recently and news about the game is starting to bubble out. Since there's mostly just talk right now my thoughts on the game could change quite a bit once some videos are released but so far the PR stuff sounds positive. Some early thoughts:

The ability to mix and match skills sounds like it could create some fun styles. While I'm certain I will spend hours tinkering with my character's face it's entirely possible I'll spend hours goofing around with power combinations. Perhaps at some point I'll play the actual game. The introduction of extra melee weapons such as hammers and swords makes me hopeful I can re-create the crazy characters such as those cyber ninja that were in ME3 multiplayer.

It sounds like you will investigating world upon world of waist high walls. Cover based shooting is the true universal language.

The creators are going to keep trying to make a land vehicle until they get it right. Still, I don't think anything is going to beat the cockroach-like Mako with it's indestructible hull and ability to drive vertically up mountains.

It's frustrating that they have yet to show profiles of the characters. BioWare games are just fancy dating sims so I need to start planning on who my future space girl/boyfriend is going to be.



Mass Effect - now that's good escapism. Probably one of my favorite "mainstream series" (I do think there are many very valid criticisms regarding the awful way they concluded the original trilogy, though).

I hate Dragon Age, so as far as I'm concerned that series exists to work out potential problems that can then be avoided in Mass Effect (like the reputedly shitty content-bloat/hypertrophic quest system from Inquisition).

I'm pretty psyched about the ability mix-and-match myself. I am a true Red Mage at heart; the ends-justify-the-means philosophy of min-maxers is antithetical to my own preferences although I do enjoy finding powerful combinations of various skills/cards/techniques/whatever.

It will be hard for me to resist some sort of space-melee weapon... although I have always wished they would get a bit more creative with their futuristic methods of inflicting harm. ME has previously been all about "space shotgun," "space assault rifle," and so on. Do you mean to tell me that all these different species that evolved independently from humans all arrived at minor variations on the same shit I would see in "Guns & Ammo" magazine circa 1992?

Obviously I need to keep my expectations for weirdness in check, but perhaps they will slip one or two weird ideas in there beyond "space fire bullets" and "space ice bullets".

But honestly, I'm pretty excited. I am not seeing any particularly exciting prospects for space love yet but I'll certainly keep an eye out.





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"Re(2):The Effects of Mass" , posted Fri 11 Nov 06:43post reply

I'm not thrilled with the trailer because early on in the discussion of Andromeda they mentioned it being about the frontier, but the trailer is 100% Inception-noise action as the guys desperately gunfight against some monsters and a sinister humanoid alien. The atmosphere of the trailer is all "ooh sinister danger and desperate struggle for survival". It's utterly humorless.

It's not that any element of it looks bad, but rather that it doesn't communicate any super grand aspirations of exploration, role-playing, deep story/setting, etc. which is what I hope for from Mass Effect.

Admittedly, the trailers for ME2 and ME3 were kind of like that, too, and ME2 had plenty of great story in it.

It might entirely be possible that their long term strategy is to have DA be the largehuge exploration RPG and ME grows ever narrower in roleplaying scope as a more action-focused narrative.





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"Re(3):The Effects of Mass" , posted Fri 11 Nov 06:52post reply

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I'm not thrilled with the trailer because early on in the discussion of Andromeda they mentioned it being about the frontier, but the trailer is 100% Inception-noise action as the guys desperately gunfight against some monsters and a sinister humanoid alien. The atmosphere of the trailer is all "ooh sinister danger and desperate struggle for survival". It's utterly humorless.

It's not that any element of it looks bad, but rather that it doesn't communicate any super grand aspirations of exploration, role-playing, deep story/setting, etc. which is what I hope for from Mass Effect.

Admittedly, the trailers for ME2 and ME3 were kind of like that, too, and ME2 had plenty of great story in it.

It might entirely be possible that their long term strategy is to have DA be the largehuge exploration RPG and ME grows ever narrower in roleplaying scope as a more action-focused narrative.



Well, they have straight-up said that Andromeda is open world. Trailers, you can't trust 'em!





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"Re(4):The Effects of Mass" , posted Fri 11 Nov 06:56post reply

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Well, they have straight-up said that Andromeda is open world. Trailers, you can't trust 'em!



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"Re(5):The Effects of Mass" , posted Sat 12 Nov 01:30post reply

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I hate Dragon Age, so as far as I'm concerned that series exists to work out potential problems that can then be avoided in Mass Effect (like the reputedly shitty content-bloat/hypertrophic quest system from Inquisition).


Good to know I'm not the only one who can't get into the DA games. I've tried again and again to get into DA:I but I keep restarting since I couldn't decide on my character. Finally through some fluke I ended up creating a character who looked like the Trivago Guy so I decided that I wouldn't mind guiding this skeevy dude through 40 hours of fantasy. Or at least I thought I would until I ran into the absurd number of petty tasks on my to-do list. Being the leader of a large group obviously involves a lot of work but everyone I was leading acted as if they were incapable of completing the most minor of tasks. In the end I felt I had to do everything in the camp short of sewing name tags into the underwear of my companions. Maybe someday I'll push though the main storyline missions of DA:I or maybe I won't. Hopefully the new ME keeps things a bit more focused.

quote:
Obviously I need to keep my expectations for weirdness in check, but perhaps they will slip one or two weird ideas in there beyond "space fire bullets" and "space ice bullets".


Wasn't there a rocket launcher in ME2 that could shoot black holes or something equally ridiculous? I don't remember it being useful but I do remember it being entertaining.

I agree, it would be neat to see some weapons that are a bit more imaginative than simply tossing grenades about. Perhaps they could build upon the combat drones and make a RTS style ability? I don't know if that will happen but if the class system is flexible enough maybe something clever can be cobbled together.





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"Family Computer" , posted Mon 14 Nov 02:23post reply

This new Famicom Mini advertisement is awesome 80's goodness

And no I don't have it yet!
The retailers didn't have any units to sell outside of preorders which is really unusual.





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"Re(1):Family Computer" , posted Mon 14 Nov 03:11post reply

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This new Famicom Mini advertisement is awesome 80's goodness

And no I don't have it yet!
The retailers didn't have any units to sell outside of preorders which is really unusual.



BUT at least your region got preorders! I stood in line for an hour and a half each at 2 different stores before I was able to get the NES here in south Florida, and when I nabbed one there were another 30 or so people behind me who missed out.





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"Re(2):Family Computer" , posted Tue 15 Nov 02:54post reply

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I stood in line for an hour and a half each at 2 different stores before I was able to get the NES here in south Florida, and when I nabbed one there were another 30 or so people behind me who missed out.



I would totally buy the Mini-Famicom, not the Mini-Nes though.
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"Re(3):Family Computer" , posted Wed 16 Nov 15:18post reply

Another Matthew survivor ;) I'm about 30-45 minutes north of you in the Boca Raton/Delray Beach area.

I'll agree the game lineup could have been better, and I'm not really in need of another way to play these games between my original console, Virtual Console, collections/re-releases and emulation. But dammit it makes such a great gift for friends/family who are less tech-savvy.





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"Re(4):Family Computer" , posted Thu 17 Nov 01:50:post reply

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Another Matthew survivor ;) I'm about 30-45 minutes north of you in the Boca Raton/Delray Beach area.

I'll agree the game lineup could have been better, and I'm not really in need of another way to play these games between my original console, Virtual Console, collections/re-releases and emulation. But dammit it makes such a great gift for friends/family who are less tech-savvy.


Looks like some one took this new SFC/NES a bit to serious:
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"Re(5):Family Computer" , posted Thu 17 Nov 04:24post reply

Nintendo has not only put up the original instruction manuals for the Famicom Mini but they are available in different languages to boot. The English booklet for FF1 is over eighty pages!





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"The sorrow of PSN and WS-37397-9" , posted Mon 21 Nov 04:17post reply

This weekend I was hit with an IP ban by Sony. It is listed as WS-37397-9 on the PS4 and 80710102 and the PS3.

So I cannot connect to PSN on with device or even access the store.playstation.com website from my own laptop!

It appears this issue has struck many people from my twitter, reddit and google searches into the matter and they say the same thing. PSN points at my ISP and my ISP has no idea what is going on.

One thing I am still waiting out on is IP blacklists. I was told I was on one of them and I contacted them as my placement on the blacklist on Friday lines up with my issue.

So it would appear Sony blindly follows certain blacklists thus screwing over consumers. I have no issue with any other console, but I cannot access ebay.com for what appears to be similar reasons.

I sure wanted to play Overwatch this weekend on my PS4 to see how it was. My online resources in MGSV were locked away and I couldn't do the FOB event stuff so there was no real reason to play that.

I hope I get this resolved as the only other option open to me is to get a new router to get a new IP address, but that is a cost I shouldn't have to bear in this issue.







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Nintendo has not only put up the original instruction manuals for the Famicom Mini but they are available in different languages to boot. The English booklet for FF1 is over eighty pages!

Wow! I'd heard that they were really neverous about getting Americans to like RPGs (didn't they give away Dragon Quest for free or something), and this friendly guide confirms. The trend continues with Final Fantasy VI: have you ever seen the American manual? It's lavish and in color, full of Amano's art, a thousand times more pleasant than the simple Japanese original even if it has the classier box.

This is also a good time to remember that Super Mario USA ("2") kept the "Subcon" world name when moving back to Japan, and that Mario 1 has a weird undercurrent of Mushroom death since everyone is turned into bricks and plants according to the instruction book, which Mario destroys...not that the designers were probably thinking even slightly about it in those terms, of course.





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"Re(1):The sorrow of PSN and WS-37397-9" , posted Mon 21 Nov 06:56post reply

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Geki's PSN IP ban horror story


In an age where access to online modes is getting more and more important to fully enjoy your favorite games, seeing console manufacturers doing such twisted shit is so sad. Hope you work it out one way or another.

quote:
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i briefly browsed it and...WOW. This thing looks like a strategy guide. I really like it.





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"Re(7):Family Computer" , posted Mon 21 Nov 13:08post reply

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Nintendo has not only put up the original instruction manuals for the Famicom Mini but they are available in different languages to boot. The English booklet for FF1 is over eighty pages!
Wow! I'd heard that they were really neverous about getting Americans to like RPGs (didn't they give away Dragon Quest for free or something), and this friendly guide confirms. The trend continues with Final Fantasy VI: have you ever seen the American manual? It's lavish and in color, full of Amano's art, a thousand times more pleasant than the simple Japanese original even if it has the classier box.

This is also a good time to remember that Super Mario USA ("2") kept the "Subcon" world name when moving back to Japan, and that Mario 1 has a weird undercurrent of Mushroom death since everyone is turned into bricks and plants according to the instruction book, which Mario destroys...not that the designers were probably thinking even slightly about it in those terms, of course.



I own an original NES FF1 with all its packaging and manual materials and it was NUTS. It comes with foldout maps of many of the dungeons, a walkthrough for the early part of the game, charts showing you the different gear/spells in the game and which classes can use them, charts showing the different enemies in the game and their abilities/weaknesses/HP/etc. (not all of which was correct!), and it even named "Chaos", but didn't show his sprite.

Metal Gear 1 on NES came with detailed maps and info about the different bosses and their weaknesses.

On the other hand, Strider on NES came with barely any info at all beyond the regular little manual.

Dragon Quest 1 on NES also came with an early-game walkthrough!





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"Re(8):Family Computer" , posted Mon 21 Nov 20:18post reply

GekigangerV : Holy cripes, that's very unfortunate and a bit scary. I hope you get it sorted out, or perhaps have your ISP assign you a different static IP.



Returning to classic NES/Famicom topics, here's a look at how Akira Toriyama made the Dragon Quest monsters out of concept sketches thrown by the game's creator Yuji Horii.

https://matome.naver.jp/odai/2135436560964776401





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"Re(9):Family Computer" , posted Tue 22 Nov 12:26post reply

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GekigangerV : Holy cripes, that's very unfortunate and a bit scary. I hope you get it sorted out, or perhaps have your ISP assign you a different static IP.




I was able to log on when I got home from work today.

If anyone sees themselves in a similar situation, I think you need to run antivirus/antimalware and contact

http://www.abuseat.org/
https://www.spamhaus.org/

and request your IP be taken off the block list. I am unsure if it helped, but I changed my PSN password at work as someone said they did it and it helped them.

I missed Overwatch weekend, but I am not too upset at that.

I am more upset and Sony's support who apparently tell other people to contact their ISP about the issue as they have been forwarded more information about the issue when that isn't the case at all.

I called my ISP and they had no idea what I was talking about and I could not get a new IP from them, but thankfully it appears the issue resolved by contacting the block list.

I don't know why Sony Support doesn't tell consumers directly about the block list or exact TOS violations.





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"Re(10):Family Computer" , posted Tue 22 Nov 17:11post reply

I'm glad you can log into PSN again, and thank you so much for the blocklist removal services ^^

Looking at Toriyama's art is always heartwarming to me because Dragon Ball is the first anime I've ever discovered on my own. I hope I'll be able to buy the whole DB manga next year.





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"Re(2):Re(10):Family Computer" , posted Wed 23 Nov 19:04post reply

Final Fantasy VI developer interviews.

I wish the concept for Gogo mentioned here would have made it to the final version, it feels pretty consistent with the character's general concept.

Also, neat to see that at least someone involved in creating Sabin/Mash was a Fatal Fury fan.





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"Re(1):Darius 30th Anniversary Limited Edition" , posted Sun 27 Nov 00:24post reply

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Returning to classic NES/Famicom topics, here's a look at how Akira Toriyama made the Dragon Quest monsters out of concept sketches thrown by the game's creator Yuji Horii.


This retrospective shows just how much Toriyama's art contributed to the early success of DQ. Quite a bit of character had to come across in a single image and a different artist might not have been able to make the monsters so memorable.

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"The Nonary Games are back... well, except one" , posted Mon 28 Nov 07:30:post reply

Not really fresh news, but last month Spike Chunsoft announced the Zero Escape: The Nonary Games compilation for PS4, PSVita and PC. It brings both 999 (with high-resolution graphics and voice acting) and Virtue's Last Reward.

The weird thing is, while it's understandable that Zero Time Dilemma isn't present in the PSVita and PC versions of ZE:TNG (as it was already released in these systems), it won't be included in the PS4 version, either. I know it wasn't as praised as its predecessors, but it could be a way to have more people interested in the compilation.





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"Re(1):The Nonary + Code of Princess" , posted Mon 28 Nov 10:13post reply

Hey team, did we talk about how Code of Princess is 40% off on Steam? And how it has Japanese and English interfaces? I know the Cafe verdict before was "not bad," but will it be good enough to make me happy in Kinu-land? Will it train me so that I'm in a Dragon's Crown-y mood when I return home to my PS3 at the end of the year and pursue Toxico like some hapless Tails chasing Sonic?

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"Re(2):The Nonary + Code of Princess" , posted Mon 28 Nov 13:39post reply

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Hey team, did we talk about how Code of Princess is 40% off on Steam? And how it has Japanese and English interfaces? I know the Cafe verdict before was "not bad," but will it be good enough to make me happy in Kinu-land? Will it train me so that I'm in a Dragon's Crown-y mood when I return home to my PS3 at the end of the year and pursue Toxico like some hapless Tails chasing Sonic?

...I mean, nine US dollars is the same price as a waffle.



The gameplay is good and the characters and story are really fun. Definitely worth a play through. My only gripe is that while Kinu's art is AWESOME the actual in game graphics aren't so great. They animate fairly well though!






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"Re(2):The Nonary + Code of Princess" , posted Mon 28 Nov 16:49post reply

Maou, I love that game to death, though I admit it easily gets repetitive, turning into a matter of equipping your character with the most effective bonuses for the level/bonus quest you're about to tackle and do the same one or two moves over and over again. Move sets definitely aren't on par with Guardian Heroes IMO. But you can ease the repetitiveness by completing it with all the characters. Only the first 4 characters are playable in all modes IIRC, but any other character is playable in regular levels without following the story and in the bonus quests, so there's plenty to mess around with. Plus, as Nobi said, the storyline is fun and model animation is good. I love its soundtrack too. Go for that nonary price tag :D

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Not really fresh news, but last month Spike Chunsoft announced the Zero Escape: The Nonary Games compilation for PS4, PSVita and PC. It brings both 999 (with high-resolution graphics and voice acting) and Virtue's Last Reward.

The weird thing is, while it's understandable that Zero Time Dilemma isn't present in the PSVita and PC versions of ZE:TNG (as it was already released in these systems), it won't be included in the PS4 version, either. I know it wasn't as praised as its predecessors, but it could be a way to have more people interested in the compilation.


It's also not a Nonary Game like the other two games are so they'd have to change that clever title to something else.





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"Re(2):The Nonary Games are back... well, exce" , posted Tue 29 Nov 21:20post reply

quote:
Not really fresh news, but last month Spike Chunsoft announced the Zero Escape: The Nonary Games compilation for PS4, PSVita and PC. It brings both 999 (with high-resolution graphics and voice acting) and Virtue's Last Reward.

The weird thing is, while it's understandable that Zero Time Dilemma isn't present in the PSVita and PC versions of ZE:TNG (as it was already released in these systems), it won't be included in the PS4 version, either. I know it wasn't as praised as its predecessors, but it could be a way to have more people interested in the compilation.

It's also not a Nonary Game like the other two games are so they'd have to change that clever title to something else.



That's right, it's a Decision Game... well, nevertheless, it's the final part of the Zero Escape trilogy, and since there are nine participants with their lives on the line, this game is still kinda "nonary"...





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"Re(3):The Nonary Games are back... well, exce" , posted Wed 30 Nov 16:03post reply

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Not really fresh news, but last month Spike Chunsoft announced the Zero Escape: The Nonary Games compilation for PS4, PSVita and PC. It brings both 999 (with high-resolution graphics and voice acting) and Virtue's Last Reward.

The weird thing is, while it's understandable that Zero Time Dilemma isn't present in the PSVita and PC versions of ZE:TNG (as it was already released in these systems), it won't be included in the PS4 version, either. I know it wasn't as praised as its predecessors, but it could be a way to have more people interested in the compilation.

It's also not a Nonary Game like the other two games are so they'd have to change that clever title to something else.


That's right, it's a Decision Game... well, nevertheless, it's the final part of the Zero Escape trilogy, and since there are nine participants with their lives on the line, this game is still kinda "nonary"...


Don't look at this if you haven't actually played Zero Time Dilemma.


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Until you consider there's actually ten players in which case the 'deci' in Decision game takes a whole another meaning

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"Re(4):The Nonary Games are back... well, exce" , posted Wed 30 Nov 23:11post reply

Yeah, I'm familiar with the Zero Time Dilemma story, and well...



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...while there are ten participants, the decision game system only considers the lives of nine of them; Sean living or "dying" is irrelevant as long as six of the other nine participants die.

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Really, ZTD should have been added to the PS4 version of ZE:TNG. D-Team and Mira are some of my favorite characters in the whole ZE franchise (plus Gab, of course; can anyone not love him??).





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"Death Stranding ... Guest Starring ..." , posted Fri 2 Dec 13:59:post reply

Here is the latest trailer for Death Stranding in 1080p:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8pj4eIFABU

I was on the fence about the first trailer. It had impressive visuals and lighting, but the oscar-baity feeling of it turned me off. Also I couldn't feel Yoji Shinkawa's unique hand in it at all since it was mostly just naked Norman Reedus and a baby on the beach.

THIS TRAILER THO.

I'm 100% sold.

The MOOD.
The characters.
Even the actors chosen are perfect (they all have interesting faces that don't feel out of place in a surreal sci-fi fantasy).
And man, the sound design. Good lord. This is some of the best sound design I've heard in a while.

I won't spoil anything, just check it out!

Well, one spoiler won't hurt:



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I wonder if Fatty Toro (中とろ) will make it into the final game or if this is just a special teaser?

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"Code of Maou" , posted Sat 3 Dec 16:20post reply

Hahahah, oh lord Code of Princess may be the dumbest game I've bought in a long time. Note that I didn't say "bad," necessarily. Kinu is the obviously the reason to get it, and they know how to get your attention from the start. There's a lot of uninteresting characters running around, even if the dialogue between characters frequently makes me laugh. I wish the game were more fun, though! Lots of mash. I'm starting to wonder if Dragon's Crown, in addition to being one of the finest games ever made, is also an anomaly as an RPG beat-em-up that's actually fun. Sure, it looks nicer than Code, but what are the other reasons it's so much more fun to brawl? Maybe it's having real stages. Either way, I still wish Kinu and Kamitani would team up for a game. They're friends, after all!





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"Re(1):Code of Maou" , posted Sat 3 Dec 17:25post reply

...I had forgot to tell you don't get to face real stages till very late in the game, sorry. Good to know your somehow enjoying it though :) And Kinu's art sure is fantastic. You capped a "mou...ecchi!!" moment LOL x'D The writer sure had fun with that bit.





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"Re(1):Code of Maou" , posted Sun 4 Dec 00:00post reply

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"Re(1):Death Stranding ... Guest Starring ..." , posted Sun 4 Dec 00:48post reply

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8pj4eIFABU


It certainly is an arresting trailer even if I don't know what's going on or what the heck the actual game will be. Mads Mikkelsen in particular seems to have a face that is well suited to slightly strange, uncanny valley world of motion capture acting. His computer version also vaguely looks like Klaus Kinski so I had to double-check to make certain Klaus was still dead and not involved in this project.





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"Windjammers ???" , posted Sun 4 Dec 04:48post reply

Just announced, Windjammers port for PS4/Vita also with online multiplayer.







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"Re(1):Windjammers ???" , posted Sun 4 Dec 08:19post reply

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Windjammers -the game that broke the buttons on every single Neo Geo multi-cab it which it was installed- is getting a port? Fans of this game are going to burn through controllers!







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"Re(1):Motto hostess" , posted Mon 5 Dec 04:32post reply

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Was anyone else overjoyed that psexp confirmed more Yakuza games coming to west? I personally had already sort of half given up on them due to the poor issue that V's adaptation ended up being.

Let's us remember that the newer Yakuza games are a wonderful example of why stores need to payprotectionmoney


Sega really has no idea what to do with Yakuza outside of Japan but I'm glad that someone, somewhere has not given up on the series.







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"Let It Die is quite the roguelike" , posted Tue 6 Dec 04:43post reply

I honestly don't like the combat, which is what you mostly do in the game, I personally try to stay away from roguelikes because after a dozen plus hours I feel existential dread, but Let It Die has the funniest and most stylish first hour-plus. It's Grasshopper through and through. It's got amazing and bizarre images and characters, a lot of low-fi aesthetics, and a possibly too-gritty/too-edgy punk feel.

It's a F2P game where the microtransactions mostly have to do with character resurrection in the form of insurance.

It being F2P means that you should also all try it out! I think the one downer of it in terms of its intro to the game is the sheer volume of text notes you have to read that you can easily forget, even if they are presented in a way that's amusing. The notebook you have in the game showing achievements/objectives/past notes/etc. looks quite nice, too! Where Ni-Oh has the Dark Souls bloodstains serve as summons for AI-controlled versions of those players, in Let It Die your dead will automatically appear in other people's games, and in your own. Defeating them allows you to reclaim them in your game, which is a cool mechanic.

I don't know how much of it I'll actually play, what with FFXV in my hands and TLG coming up and the fighting of Let It Die not being terrifically great, but it gave me enough goofy grins that I'm tempted to just throw them some money anyway.

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"Re(1):Let It Die is quite the roguelike" , posted Tue 6 Dec 06:06post reply

During the brief time I had to try out Let It Die I found the visual style to be quite striking. In those few moments I also accidentally ate all the mushrooms that I needed to advance and had to restart the tutorial. I suspect that's the way a lot of the game is going to play out.





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"Re(2):Let It Die is quite the roguelike" , posted Tue 6 Dec 06:51post reply

I played up until the first elevator and not had a chance to go back yet. I too have existential dread when it comes to Souls-Like games, mostly because I got real tired of redoing levels in Demon's Souls years ago. I like the overall aesthetic and design. The beating heart to show stamina is pretty neat.

Combat has been okay so far. Lock feels a bit iffy and changing with Up on the D-pad is weird considering R3 is the lock on button. Guns seem a bit weird. Maybe there is a large hit stun invulnerability for enemies, but it feels like you hit them once but try again right after and it misses. I love that enemies can damage each other. Really allows for another level of strategy when dealing with a group and one has a pitch fork or scythe.

Enemies seem to have a large aggro circumference. I had my first fireworks enemy rush me with someone else and it felt like they came from quite a ways.

Anyone know good stats to level up first? Much like the Souls games, I have no idea what will be useful and what is a waste of resources.

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During the brief time I had to try out Let It Die I found the visual style to be quite striking. In those few moments I also accidentally ate all the mushrooms that I needed to advance and had to restart the tutorial. I suspect that's the way a lot of the game is going to play out.



Are you talking about helping the person under the gate? the mushroom there respawned since I accidentally ate that and went back. If not, I see there is more to the tutorial than I thought.





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"Re(3):Let It Die is quite the roguelike" , posted Tue 6 Dec 20:54:post reply

Believe it or not, I hadn't heard of Let It Die before the PSX trailer. Man is it a fine example of Grasshopper's mastery of that over the top style. Don't know when I'll feel like devoting some serious time to it -having some basic KOF14 training and keeping up with the "daily" SFV missions feel like a chore for a number of personal reasons-, but I'll download today so that I have it handy. I'm a bit worried about the combat system -Spoon doesn't look fond of it and locking on with R3 definitely sounds a little uncomfortable-, but I feel it's worth a thorough trial session at the very least. Was it set to be F2P from the beginning?

EDIT: are Japanese Amazon customers too demanding? Or are we the ones who get excited too easily? Besides, it's funny how the difference get way smaller in SFV's case.





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"Random Shantae" , posted Mon 12 Dec 02:24post reply

Shantae: Half-Genie Hero FINALLY came out two years after the initial release date listed on their Kickstarter page.

I was a $15 donation tier which gave me the base game, but I kinda wish I went up a bit higher for digital artbook and soundtrack.

I have only done the first two bosses and a sidequest, but I LOVE the game so far. I had actually never played a Shantae game before the Kickstarter, but I think I was on a Kickstarter binge thanks to Mighty No 9 and gave to a couple of "old-school" like games.

The aesthetic is very pleasing and animation is gorgeous. It is your fairly basic side-scrolling platformer where you whip Shantae's hair to attack enemies and gain transformations to maneuver through the levels in different ways. The boss fights are a real highlight for me. They are very unique encounters that have you moving all around the screen.

If it comes out for $15 I would definitely recommend getting it.

To be honest, I was not too mad about the long delay since I think the Mighty no 9 Kickstarter was more on my mind at the time and they didn't try to do anything dirty like Inafune by trying to do a second Kickstarter before announcing a delay on their first.

They were able to match the concept art almost exactly, too.

Almost all my crowd funding stuff I backed years ago has come out. Only waiting on Shenmue III and a game called Stonehearth(not to be confused with the more popular game Hearthstone) made by the Shoryuken.com guys to be finished(it has been in alpha for a LONG time).







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"Re(1):Random Shantae" , posted Mon 12 Dec 06:57post reply

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Shantae: Half-Genie Hero FINALLY came out two years after the initial release date listed on their Kickstarter page.

I was a $15 donation tier which gave me the base game, but I kinda wish I went up a bit higher for digital artbook and soundtrack.

I have only done the first two bosses and a sidequest, but I LOVE the game so far. I had actually never played a Shantae game before the Kickstarter, but I think I was on a Kickstarter binge thanks to Mighty No 9 and gave to a couple of "old-school" like games.

The aesthetic is very pleasing and animation is gorgeous. It is your fairly basic side-scrolling platformer where you whip Shantae's hair to attack enemies and gain transformations to maneuver through the levels in different ways. The boss fights are a real highlight for me. They are very unique encounters that have you moving all around the screen.

If it comes out for $15 I would definitely recommend getting it.

To be honest, I was not too mad about the long delay since I think the Mighty no 9 Kickstarter was more on my mind at the time and they didn't try to do anything dirty like Inafune by trying to do a second Kickstarter before announcing a delay on their first.

They were able to match the concept art almost exactly, too.

Almost all my crowd funding stuff I backed years ago has come out. Only waiting on Shenmue III and a game called Stonehearth(not to be confused with the more popular game Hearthstone) made by the Shoryuken.com guys to be finished

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"Re(1):Random Shantae" , posted Mon 12 Dec 12:55:post reply

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Shantae: Half-Genie Hero FINALLY came out two years after the initial release date listed on their Kickstarter page.



Game looks really nice! I could tell right away they were using SPINE to animate as that's what I've been using for the last 3 years. It's the best 2.5D program I've ever worked with (even better than Flash!)

I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to make some Vanillaware style animations. It's relatively cheap too, compared to Adobe and Autodesk products!






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"Re(1):Random Shantae" , posted Mon 12 Dec 17:46:post reply

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Shantae: Half-Genie Hero FINALLY came out two years after the initial release date listed on their Kickstarter page.

I was a $15 donation tier which gave me the base game, but I kinda wish I went up a bit higher for digital artbook and soundtrack.

I have only done the first two bosses and a sidequest, but I LOVE the game so far. I had actually never played a Shantae game before the Kickstarter, but I think I was on a Kickstarter binge thanks to Mighty No 9 and gave to a couple of "old-school" like games.


Being one of the Kickstarter backers myself (you...might recognize my artwork in Door 8 of the Gallery... :2ch_syoboon: ), I got to play the Early Access a substantial amount, and it seems the pacing is spot on. It did make me want to revisit Pirates Curse on my (new)3DS, and I ended up getting hooked on my playthrough.





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"Maldita Castilla EX" , posted Tue 20 Dec 02:14post reply

I am certain there are folks here who will appreciate that the already excellent Maldita Castilla for PC has been updated and released on PS4 (and on XBONE too but ick, how am I to find the link to THAT) as 'Cursed Castilla'.

For those who don't know it (and for whom the screens don't make it instantly obvious), it's a Makaimura tribute game that somehow manages to get just about everything right, so at $11.99US it's quite a bargain.

Granted, I said it gets just about everything right... I can't say it quite has the character and humor present in Makaimura, but it avoids a bunch of the pitfalls that tribute games often fall into-- namely the sameness with the source material that so many Metroidvanias suffer from.

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"Re(1):Maldita Castilla EX" , posted Tue 20 Dec 11:19post reply

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I am certain there are folks here who will appreciate that the already excellent Maldita Castilla for PC has been updated and released on PS4 (and on XBONE too but ick, how am I to find the link to THAT) as 'Cursed Castilla'.

For those who don't know it (and for whom the screens don't make it instantly obvious), it's a Makaimura tribute game that somehow manages to get just about everything right, so at $11.99US it's quite a bargain.

Granted, I said it gets just about everything right... I can't say it quite has the character and humor present in Makaimura, but it avoids a bunch of the pitfalls that tribute games often fall into-- namely the sameness with the source material that so many Metroidvanias suffer from.

Anyway, consider picking it up if you're a Makaimura fan like me!



Glad to see some Maldita Castilla love around here! As expected, Karasu is a man of exquisite taste.

The game is actually the work of one very dedicated Spanish guy (hence the "Castilla" reference on the title) and it's much more than a mere clone homage to Makaimura. You should have a look at its gorgeous instruction booklet, done in the style of a medieval codex. I wish big developers would put a similar amount love and care into their creations!






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"Re(2):Maldita Castilla EX" , posted Wed 21 Dec 04:32post reply

Uhmmm...I can't believe I didn't know anything about this gem till reading Karasu's thoughts. I saw the first level in a longplay. The visual and music style is so amazingly faithful to the late 80s action platformers aesthetic, you would mistake it for a (great) game actually developed in those years if the screen resolution and -in the case of the longplay I glanced at- the borders didn't warn you. No plagiarism, no soulless imitation, it's all about vibrant, heartfelt faithfulness to that memorable style.

Also, I read in the game site that the developer took inspiration from Spanish and European myths. Me having had this latent fascination with Spanish and Portuguese speaking cultures since forever, this element of the game will definitely resonate with my heart once I buy and play it.





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"KILLER ROBOT BEARS SENTAI SQUAD!!" , posted Thu 22 Dec 07:10post reply

I don't know if anyone here likes the Danganronpa series, but in case someone does, the third game (not counting the spin-off) will be released next year.

I wasn't following the news about it, but this month I found out Monokuma (who's already brilliant by itself) will have a MONOKUMA SENTAI SQUAD!! This alone caught my interest much more than anything the previous two games had!

Interestingly, while Danganronpa V3 is supposed to be a brand new story and ignore the Hope's Peak School events from the previous games, the school (and its former students) will still be visitable in the "bonus modes". However this works, it seems the bonus modes will be much more elaborate than DR1's and SDR2's were...





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"Nierly (not) Automatic demo" , posted Fri 23 Dec 15:28post reply

The Demo for Nier Automata is out on PSNStore (at least for JP region).

It's full of Yoshida Akihiko's art style (and fetishes) so if you're a fan of the artist, it should be good to pick up. This game is probably one of the better examples of 3D done right. The black velvet looks really natural.


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"Re(1):Nierly (not) Automatic demo" , posted Fri 23 Dec 22:04:post reply

JaP, you'll be happy to see some Kilgore goodness if you haven't already. Also, it looks like 2 other characters are on the way.

Does anybody know if there are plans for a Japanese physical release of Wild Guns Reloaded? I put some money into my PSN account to buy UMvC3 and get ready in advance to buy a 1 year Plus next March (when my European Plus year expires), and Play-Asia is accepting preorders for an US physical version, so I'd like to know if a disc version is planned for Japan too before buying the digital version.

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"Re(2):Nierly (not) Automatic demo" , posted Fri 23 Dec 23:50post reply

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Does anybody know if there are plans for a Japanese physical release of Wild Guns Reloaded? I put some money into my PSN account to buy UMvC3 and get ready in advance to buy a 1 year Plus next March (when my European Plus year expires), and Play-Asia is accepting preorders for an US physical version, so I'd like to know if a disc version is planned for Japan too before buying the digital version.



I don't think there'll be a physical release of Wild Guns Reloaded in Japan. The digital release is already out and the publisher didn't make any announcement on a disc release-- by tradition JP publishers release them simultaneously.







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"Re(1):Nierly (not) Automatic demo" , posted Sat 24 Dec 00:29post reply

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The Demo for Nier Automata is out on PSNStore (at least for JP region).



It's all regions now, on the NA store though you have to actually search for it since Sony is ignoring it like Gravity Rush.

It's surprisingly import friendly with all the language options available from the outset.





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"Re(3):Nierly (not) Automatic demo" , posted Sat 24 Dec 02:13post reply

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I don't think there'll be a physical release of Wild Guns Reloaded in Japan. The digital release is already out and the publisher didn't make any announcement on a disc release-- by tradition JP publishers release them simultaneously.



Thanks a lot Prof ^^ I asked it because I saw it available in the PSN store while going for UMvC3 indeed :P I'm almost sure I'll buy WGR in the next few days. Any fellow Cafe patrons already playing it?





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"Re(2):Nierly (not) Automatic demo" , posted Sat 24 Dec 21:19post reply

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JaP, you'll be happy to see some Kilgore goodness if you haven't already. Also, it looks like 2 other characters are on the way.



Thanks, Micky! It seems that the KI's Definitive Edition that I bought some months ago is no longer definitive... *sigh*

Kilgore looks... exactly how a KI3 fighter would be if the game was developed in the 1990s. Kinda cheesy, but not bad. And it's great that he has his own theme (so far, only Omen and Shadow Jago share the same theme, and that's possibly because it fits both of them), which I like better than Fulgore's.

I'm curious to see the other two fighters. I doubt they will get their own stages, but hopefully they will get good, individual music themes (unless they're more guest characters; if that's the case, I couldn't care less about them). The djinn and magic archer concepts in the poll conducted before Eyedol's reveal could be very interesting...





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"Re(3):Nierly (not) Automatic demo" , posted Sun 25 Dec 00:23post reply

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It's full of Yoshida Akihiko's art style (and fetishes) so if you're a fan of the artist, it should be good to pick up. This game is probably one of the better examples of 3D done right. The black velvet looks really natural.


I'm not certain what I think of the Nier demo but it felt like there was a complex combat engine in there that the game had no intention of explaining so I guess it's very much a Platinum game. However, the fabric and shiny, shiny, shiny boots of leather looked great on the characters. The game comes across like a fabulous cosplay session being photographed in a drab warehouse.

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Kilgore looks... exactly how a KI3 fighter would be if the game was developed in the 1990s. Kinda cheesy, but not bad. And it's great that he has his own theme (so far, only Omen and Shadow Jago share the same theme, and that's possibly because it fits both of them), which I like better than Fulgore's.

I haven't had much of a chance to check out the latest on KI lately but I did want to note that "Kilgore" is such an appropriately cheesy 1990's sort of name that I'm surprised the robot wasn't designed by Todd McFarlane.





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"Re(4):Nierly (not) Automatic demo" , posted Sun 25 Dec 00:33post reply

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I haven't had much of a chance to check out the latest on KI lately but I did want to note that "Kilgore" is such an appropriately cheesy 1990's sort of name that I'm surprised the robot wasn't designed by Todd McFarlane.



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"A Dogmatic Dragon" , posted Mon 26 Dec 03:16post reply

Among the far-too-many games I bought myself for Christmas because according to myself, and I'm a very reliable source on the subject, I've been a very good boy this year, I finally bought Dragon's Dogma (it's on Steam for not too much).

I remember several people were really into it a few years ago, is there anything I should know before starting? Some things I should absolutely do or avoid?







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"Re(1):A Dogmatic Dragon" , posted Mon 26 Dec 08:11post reply

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Among the far-too-many games I bought myself for Christmas because according to myself, and I'm a very reliable source on the subject, I've been a very good boy this year, I finally bought Dragon's Dogma (it's on Steam for not too much).

I remember several people were really into it a few years ago, is there anything I should know before starting? Some things I should absolutely do or avoid?


Dragon's Dogma, the game I love an irrational amount!

My main advice is to study up on pawn inclination. Not only do you want to train your pawn up right but you want to recruit pawns that aren't completely stupid. Having a pawn who constantly drains their stamina by running ahead or who scrounges around for items on the floor of the horse stable without an ounce of self-respect is not a pawn you need in your party.

Speaking of pawns, it's not a bad idea to have a pawn's class compliment or mirror your own. Having a ranger pawn is nice if you are going in for melee attacks or if you're both sorcerers your pawn will mirror your major spells for double the damage.

As for classes, pick whatever you like and don't be worried about switching whenever the mood strikes. Not only are all the classes more or less viable they are fun to play. Even the fighter, who in another game would be just some starting class that you play until you unlock something good, is really entertaining. "They're masterworks all, you can't go wrong," as one of the NPC's will tell you again and again and...







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"Re(1):A Dogmatic Dragon" , posted Mon 26 Dec 08:29post reply

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I remember several people were really into it a few years ago, is there anything I should know before starting? Some things I should absolutely do or avoid?



If you are playing a physical attack character with magic support pawns, then call their attention *before* jumping into battle against something potentially dangerous. Why? Because they'll cast a weapon enchant on you before you ever attack, rather than after you've already started fighting.

I had a devil of a time fighting those gators in the well until I learned that simple lesson.







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"Re(2):A Dogmatic Dragon" , posted Mon 26 Dec 09:47post reply

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I remember several people were really into it a few years ago, is there anything I should know before starting? Some things I should absolutely do or avoid?


If you are playing a physical attack character with magic support pawns, then call their attention *before* jumping into battle against something potentially dangerous. Why? Because they'll cast a weapon enchant on you before you ever attack, rather than after you've already started fighting.

I had a devil of a time fighting those gators in the well until I learned that simple lesson.



A spellcasting pawn is really useful just for them automatically casting healing and weapon enchantment spells on you.







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"Re(3):A Dogmatic Dragon" , posted Mon 26 Dec 11:30post reply

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A spellcasting pawn is really useful just for them automatically casting healing and weapon enchantment spells on you.


Another bit of pawn advice is to check for good pawns among your friend list and use them for free labor. Juan has a mega-buff mage that became the unofficial third member of my party during my Dark Arisen replay of the game.





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"Re(4):A Dogmatic Dragon" , posted Mon 26 Dec 17:32:post reply

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A spellcasting pawn is really useful just for them automatically casting healing and weapon enchantment spells on you.

Another bit of pawn advice is to check for good pawns among your friend list and use them for free labor. Juan has a mega-buff mage that became the unofficial third member of my party during my Dark Arisen replay of the game.



Dragon's Dogma's working title was "BBS RPG" on account of its pawn system, which might sound prosaic to most, but gives you a good idea of just how perfectly tailored it is for the weirdo members of this board. It really does feel like you're asynchronously playing with your friends since they pick up the play style of their masters.


It's fun to see how your friends are reflected through their pawns. Some might hang back and provide support. Some might charge into battle gung ho. Some might rush into every room and start smashing pots like a maniac with absolutely no regard for decorum. Some might be really really weirdly uncomfortably aggressive specifically towards those scantily clad female bandits. Who knows?

It's a great game. There's many years of adventure in there, not cos there's been a ton of expansions, but rather because the basic mechanics are so damn strong and dynamic and allow for an incredibly variety of outcomes. Dragon's Dogma is the action RPG that all future action RPGs should mine ideas from for the next decade.






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"Re(5):A Dogmatic Dragon" , posted Mon 26 Dec 18:23:post reply

I tried the Dragon's Dogma demo as soon as it was published, I played it a couple hours but I couldn't bring myself to like it enough to get my hands on the full game. Now with all this pawn system talk, I'm surprised that I overlooked this masterpiece so badly, and I'd give it another chance if I wasn't so busy juggling KOF14, UMvC3 -I'm actually taking a liking to it now that I'm playing the PS4 port, I absolutely didn't expect it-, WGR and SFV ^^;

Just discovered Hikari Shinwa isn't in the Japanese NES mini console. Wait, what?? Is Hikari Shinwa that unpopular in Japan? I'd rather have only one Kunio-kun title in order to get Hikari Shinwa in the Famicom Mini.





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"Quadruple Dragon" , posted Mon 26 Dec 20:03post reply

The fact that the lee brothers don't look like Hokuto no Ken characters is telling me that the team working for this is definitely not going for the ambiance of the arcade releases.

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"Lumines Puzzle & Music" , posted Sat 31 Dec 02:55post reply

Hey, why was this not a major announcement about Lumines Puzzle & Music ? I thought Lumines was popular? Or is it not? I believe this is one of the last best puzzle games we were offered. I am not a fan of most mobile puzzle games like cocaine induced Candy Crush. However, I do love puzzle games like this. But have there been any better puzzle games since the last Lumines back in 2011 that I may have missed?

Aside from that, I am glad we finally got a new Lumines game. I love it and will download this.





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"Anyone want a PS4 Paladins alpha code(US)?" , posted Mon 2 Jan 23:43:post reply

I signed up for the Paladins alpha a couple of months ago and got a code last week. They gave me an extra one to give away.

Anyone interested? Taken

It is a team based, objective taking, character class first person shooter like Overwatch. You need 4 GB of free space.

First come first serve, I will message the code via PSN.

I only played a couple of games and have to say it has potential, but needs quite a bit more polish. But it is still in alpha of course.





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"Re(1):Anyone want a PS4 Paladins alpha code(U" , posted Tue 3 Jan 00:52post reply

Could you please give me the code? I'm sending you a PSN friend request with my main account, but I also have an US account so I'll be able to redeem the Paladins alpha.





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"Re(2):Anyone want a PS4 Paladins alpha code(U" , posted Tue 3 Jan 01:19post reply

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Could you please give me the code? I'm sending you a PSN friend request with my main account, but I also have an US account so I'll be able to redeem the Paladins alpha.



I just sent it. Let me know if you have any problems. Maybe I will see you online sometime.





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"Re(3):Anyone want a PS4 Paladins alpha code(U" , posted Tue 3 Jan 01:49post reply

I'm downloading it, thank you ^^ I was curious about this game but my computer is an Intel HD 3000 equipped plagued laptop, so PC gaming is a no-no xD I'm glad I have a chance to try it out now.





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"XBO game Scalebound Cancelled" , posted Tue 10 Jan 06:10:post reply

Link Here

Word got out early this morning, but Microsoft finally confirmed it.

I am disappointed, but not surprised considering how lackluster that boss fight footage we got last time we saw the game. I was holding out for this game to get an Xbox One.

I might still get one if the price goes down some more or maybe settle for a certified refurbished one on Amazon.

One thing is for sure though, Kamiya's twitter is going to blow up.





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"Re(1):XBO game Scalebound Cancelled" , posted Tue 10 Jan 07:20post reply

A metal birdie told me about some of the hardships placed upon the team. MS put the team between a rock and a hard place. It's too bad that we wont get to see what Scalebound could have been.

Every time I put my headphones on I will pay my respects to the Japanese dragons that Microsoft has destroyed.







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"Re(2):XBO game Scalebound Cancelled" , posted Tue 10 Jan 12:01:post reply

Word is Kamiya suffered some mental health issues and is on sick leave. Hope he gets better and doesn't let this dampen his spirits.

At least the positive reception for Nier Automata should keep the Platinum torch burning.

EDIT: Kamiya's response:

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As you may have already heard, Scalebound has unfortunately been canceled. I'm very sorry to everyone who was looking forward to this game.

Sorry to bring you such bad news at the start of the year. All I can do for you is to promise to keep delivering fun games.

I'll work extra hard to never have to let you down like this again, so I hope you will keep watching over us in the future too.

Thanx for your lots of messages!!

And...I took time off for my mental health? ...Me!?

No way.

I thought I would get lots of savage messages, but in reality I'm getting lots of warm messages. Thank you.


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Regarding the Cancellation of Scalebound
2017.01.11
We’re sorry to say that on January 9, 2017, Microsoft Studios announced the cancellation of Scalebound. We are very disappointed things ended up this way, especially since we know many of our fans were looking forward to this game as much as we were.

Going forward, we will strive to continue delivering high-quality games to you, starting with NieR:Automata in March, and including products like GRANBLUE FANTASY Project Re:Link and LOST ORDER in the future.

We will keep working hard to meet your expectations and we look forward to your continued support!

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"Re(3):XBO game Scalebound Cancelled" , posted Tue 10 Jan 15:31post reply

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Word is Kamiya suffered some mental health issues and is on sick leave. Hope he gets better and doesn't let this dampen his spirits.

At least the positive reception for Nier Automata should keep the Platinum torch burning.



I did not know Kamiya was having mental health issues. Or that game companies (much less a Japanese one!) even recognise them! I hope he gets proper treatment (even if he did block me last year!)

I'm sad for the folks working on the game that Scalebound got cancelled. It sucks to spend on that time on something only to have it canned. Honestly it wasn't looking that great though.

On the other hand Nier is looking (and playing) pretty awesome. I think that'll be their biggest game yet!






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"Re(4):XBO game Scalebound Cancelled" , posted Tue 10 Jan 23:11post reply

That's too bad if Scalebound was lost due to health issues and corporate meddling. Still, I do wonder if the game would have gelled properly even under the best of circumstances. When I looked at what had been presented so far my thoughts had been less "I can't wait to see the final game" and more "how the heck is all that going to work?"





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"Re(5):XBO game Scalebound Cancelled" , posted Mon 16 Jan 22:53post reply

Not big news, but Danganronpa V3 (by the way, I'm never sure if the correct name is Danganronpa or Dangan Ronpa...) is already out... in Japan.

Probably the version for USA and Europe will take some months so that all the text is translated and the voice actors for the version in English get to record their lines. Unfortunately, I couldn't hold myself from reading the spoilers... *sigh*

Maybe it's a good thing that the only characters I can already recognize are the pianist chick and Monokuma and his Super Sentai children/lackeys/whatever they are, so hopefully by the time I get to play it, I'll have already forgotten the spoilers. It looks great, by the way.





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"Re(1):Xaaaanaaaaduuuuu" , posted Mon 23 Jan 22:09:post reply

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Xanadu Next has been released on Steam in English. Is this the same Xanadu that chaz so often spoke fondly of?



Yes! I am very sorry for the late answer. That is the game I frequently mentioned (when I was not talking about the original Xanadu), and that is the game I am disappointed Tokyo Xanadu (Vita/PS4/PC, coming to the West later this year) is not taking any inspiration from.

I have to admit, I am not sure how well Xanadu Next has aged and I would not recommend it as blindly as as I would have done five to ten years ago. When Tokyo Xanadu came out, action adventure games with such a focussed premise had all but dwindled among publishers. Nowadays, besides the revival of old-school action adventure ignoring narrative-heavy sequences, notably thanks to the Souls series, we've had plenty of great indie games scratching this kind of 90's SFC "action-RPG" itch. I bought the Steam version last Christmas out of respect for Xseed's insane decision to release an English version (and to celebrate the recent purchase of a proper gaming laptop), but I have not launched it yet. When I do, I'll try to give you a proper assessment of the game's objective contemporary value once the crumbs of the nostalgic pie are swept under the rug.





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"IGI ARI ! (OBJECTION!!)" , posted Tue 24 Jan 02:19post reply

POKE OUT YOUR ENEMIES







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"Re(1):IGI ARI ! (OBJECTION!!)" , posted Tue 24 Jan 06:16post reply

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Monhan is still never without a shortage of silly crossovers, is it. Maybe one of these days I'll actually play one of them.

Of course, the whole reason for the crossover is probably the formal announcement of Daigyakuten 2. For 3DS of course. Because if it was on Switch we'd actually have a chance to play it without a JP 3DS.





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"Re(2):IGI ARI ! (OBJECTION!!)" , posted Tue 24 Jan 09:29post reply

Well, I do not know if it is directly related to the announcement of DGS2, but last Sunday there was a live concert event for the 15th anniversary of the series in Tokyo, so they probably announced both this Monster Hunter Explore collaboration and the new trailer of DGS2 at the event (I had a ticket to go but I fell asleep in front of my work e-mails...).





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"Re(1):IGI ARI ! (OBJECTION!!)" , posted Wed 25 Jan 00:11post reply

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That's quite weird looking. It's good to know I can still run across sights in games that will stop me in my tracks. Either I'm not as jaded as I feared or developers are finding new ways to be odd.

I know very little about the company Funko other than that they want to cover the world in plastic junk. To continue with that charge they are producing mini retro game figures. While I'm certain there is a big market for Pooka and Centipede I have no idea what that white thing is on the right side of the image.





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"Re(2):IGI ARI ! (OBJECTION!!)" , posted Wed 25 Jan 04:05:post reply

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I have no idea what that white thing is on the right side of the image.



They don't mention the IP in the list but that looks like the ship from Galaga.
Speaking of Capcom and objections, I certainly don't remember Mega Man as an arcade classic...





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"Neo Yorker" , posted Wed 25 Jan 06:17post reply

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They don't mention the IP in the list but that looks like the ship from Galaga.
Speaking of Capcom and objections, I certainly don't remember Mega Man as an arcade classic...


Huh, I think you're right. I've only seen the Galaga ship from one angle so my brain could not identify that shape.

A discussion about Neo Geo collecting popped up in, of all places, The New Yorker.







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"Re(1):Neo Yorker" , posted Wed 25 Jan 13:31post reply

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A discussion about Neo Geo collecting popped up in, of all places, The New Yorker.

I love reading the New Yorker with a bit of cheese when I'm in literarti mode, but I had no idea I would love reading a gaming article from them!

I get that physicality is attractive to these collectors of Neo-Geo carts at extreme prices, but it's an interesting direction to go rather than, say, collecting the actual arcade cabinets, which ironically may be less expensive given that they've likely been produced in higher numbers in some cases. While I guess space could be an issue compared with making a complete Neo-Geo library, the money saved by not spending $200,000 on video game carts might be enough to enable you to build a special wing of your house just to house your arcade cabinets intead...





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"Re(2):Xaaaanaaaaduuuuu" , posted Thu 26 Jan 00:09post reply

quote:
Xanadu Next has been released on Steam in English. Is this the same Xanadu that chaz so often spoke fondly of?


Yes! I am very sorry for the late answer. That is the game I frequently mentioned (when I was not talking about the original Xanadu), and that is the game I am disappointed Tokyo Xanadu (Vita/PS4/PC, coming to the West later this year) is not taking any inspiration from.

I have to admit, I am not sure how well Xanadu Next has aged and I would not recommend it as blindly as as I would have done five to ten years ago. When Tokyo Xanadu came out, action adventure games with such a focussed premise had all but dwindled among publishers. Nowadays, besides the revival of old-school action adventure ignoring narrative-heavy sequences, notably thanks to the Souls series, we've had plenty of great indie games scratching this kind of 90's SFC "action-RPG" itch. I bought the Steam version last Christmas out of respect for Xseed's insane decision to release an English version (and to celebrate the recent purchase of a proper gaming laptop), but I have not launched it yet. When I do, I'll try to give you a proper assessment of the game's objective contemporary value once the crumbs of the nostalgic pie are swept under the rug.



I'll be looking forward to reading your impressions of the game in this modern age!

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"Danganronpa Question" , posted Fri 27 Jan 23:43:post reply

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Not big news, but Danganronpa V3 (by the way, I'm never sure if the correct name is Danganronpa or Dangan Ronpa...) is already out... in Japan.

Probably the version for USA and Europe will take some months so that all the text is translated and the voice actors for the version in English get to record their lines. Unfortunately, I couldn't hold myself from reading the spoilers... *sigh*

Maybe it's a good thing that the only characters I can already recognize are the pianist chick and Monokuma and his Super Sentai children/lackeys/whatever they are, so hopefully by the time I get to play it, I'll have already forgotten the spoilers. It looks great, by the way.



Just started watching the animation for Danganronpa and was pretty amazed how it turned out. I didnt expect much but was surpised. Did not know it was originally a video game. Just A Person, how is the game played? Is it something like a crime investigating game like Ace Attorney? Well, never played that either so curious to know. Also which game in the series would be a good start to try out for newcomers?





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"Re(1):Danganronpa Question" , posted Sat 28 Jan 01:48post reply

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Just started watching the animation for Danganronpa and was pretty amazed how it turned out. I didnt expect much but was surpised. Did not know it was originally a video game. Just A Person, how is the game played? Is it something like a crime investigating game like Ace Attorney? Well, never played that either so curious to know. Also which game in the series would be a good start to try out for newcomers?



Yes, it is very similar to Ace Attorney in terms of gameplay (but VERY different in terms of setting), but between one murder and other, Danganronpa also has Free Time, where you can interact with the other students and try to become closer to them by giving them gifts, talking to them and so on. It doesn't affect the main plot, but allows you to unlock special skills for investigations or trials, and to learn more about their backgrounds.

I guess the first game, Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc would be the best one for newcomers, as it features less mechanics (there are a lot of them, yes, but each sequel brings even more of them, so...) - not to mention that some twists from DR2 can only be understood if you played DR1 first (DRV3 is supposed to be an independent chapter of the franchise, but I wouldn't doubt that it is connected to the previous games in some way or other). There is the Another Episode spin-off, but it is an action game, quite different from the other ones.

Fortunately, Spike Chunsoft has already released a collection of the first two games for PS Vita and will release it this year for PS4, so it should be easier (and cheaper) to get them.





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"There's A New Double Dragon Game Out Today" , posted Wed 1 Feb 01:42post reply

Looks like Arc Systems picked up the rights. Good stuff.

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On a side note: Thanks Just A Person for info regarding Danganronpa.





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"Re(1):There's A New Double Dragon Game Out To" , posted Wed 1 Feb 04:50post reply

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Looks like Arc Systems picked up the rights. Good stuff.

Double Dragon IV

On a side note: Thanks Just A Person for info regarding Danganronpa.


Has there been a stated reason why they went with NES graphics? There's nostalgia and all that but they just released a game that looks worse than the 1987 arcade game.







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"Re(2):There's A New Double Dragon Game Out To" , posted Wed 1 Feb 07:14post reply

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Has there been a stated reason why they went with NES graphics? There's nostalgia and all that but they just released a game that looks worse than the 1987 arcade game.



No idea, but if they had to go with NES sprites I'm glad they went with the Double Dragon 2 ones rather than either 1 or 3. I have fond memories of sending multiple enemies flying off ledges with Billy's grossly overpowered knee attack.

Apparently the Japanese PS4 release for DD4 was delayed to an unannounced date for some reason. I wonder why? I know the game was delayed from its original release already.





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"Re(3):There's A New Double Dragon Game Out To" , posted Wed 1 Feb 17:43post reply

The heck? I love DD as much as the next guy, but why does this exist? I'm no art-eater so I'm struggling to put this thought to pen, but here's what I managed to mind-vomit out on my drive home.

ASW is between a rock and a hard place. Billy and Jimmy are so rooted in the 80s-denim-leather-tattoos-vests gritty Streets of Fire dynamic that (IMO) it would be difficult to create a 'real' new game that would be relevant to consumers today AND commercially viable. Each attempt to update or reinvent their world has failed - from reimagining them as Saturday-morning superheroes (TV series / The Shadow Falls), Surf Ninjas (live movie), or trope-laden self-parodies (Neon). I think Rage of the Dragons had its heart in the right place, but, y'know....

So the easy solution is, just make it look and play like the one you remember, right? After all the kids who grew up on it eat up the Megaman 9s, Shovel Knights, River City Ransom SPs and their ilk. And after all, our generation is about to drop 50 bucks on Street Fighter 2! Why go through the effort of creating something really new at all?

I think the reason NES graphics work so well for the new Kunio games is that their goofy, lighthearted style makes them kind of timeless, like Peanuts. Wait, wrong audience - I meant like Lupin. But using and (barely) tweaking the DD2 assets here doesn't feel like tribute, it just seems lazy. When it comes down to it, the retreaux games I listed above massively outstrip the capabilities of the consoles whose personalities they emulate, but manage to hide that in an 8-bit shell. From what (admittedly little) I've seen here though, this just looks like a romhack of DD2 with widescreen - stiff, unforgiving, and dare I say boring.

Now that all said, I'm not the type of person to knock a game on visual impressions alone, I firmly believe that if it plays good, that's all that matters. But as I continue to get older I'm finding it harder and harder to give things a chance. Money isn't as disposable as it used to be. I have to worry about health insurance, gasoline, providing for my family - if a game (or other avenue of entertainment) gives me any reason to believe it's not worth the time and trouble, I skip it. So that underwhelming trailer sure didn't do it any favors. (I mean, come on! "The mysterious enemies were called......The Renegades"?!)

My love for Double Dragon runs deep. I hope that I'm wrong and overreacting and maybe if a friend pulls the trigger and I get to try it I'll come back here and eat these words. And in all fairness, I don't have a better idea of how to save Double Dragon.

But does it really need saving at all? It was fine the way it was.

Sorry for the incoherent rant. Now I'm going to go remind myself that this is not in fact rock bottom for the Dragons by watching the episode of the Kunio TV drama they appear in.





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"Mega Man 2.5D Game Launches After 8 years." , posted Wed 1 Feb 23:25post reply

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"Sunless Skies" , posted Thu 2 Feb 03:48post reply

I am unreasonably hyped for this, and so should you!
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"Re(1):Sunless Skies of Rockman" , posted Thu 2 Feb 14:15post reply

Woah! A fan game of a dead series that adds some real visual flair and creativity! Rockman 2.5D is pretty neat. Leaves a more lasting impression than the Sonic fan games created by an equally forlorn fanbase awaiting Godot/the second coming.
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"Re(2):Sunless Skies of Rockman" , posted Thu 2 Feb 18:09post reply

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Woah! A fan game of a dead series that adds some real visual flair and creativity! Rockman 2.5D is pretty neat. Leaves a more lasting impression than the Sonic fan games created by an equally forlorn fanbase awaiting Godot/the second coming. I am unreasonably hyped for this, and so should you!
Well, maybe not you over there.
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I am too scared to play Sunless Skies/Seas, despite their astounding Londonian classiness. What should I do?

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You can play the somewhat inscrutable Fallen London webgame that V started the setting and IP! Its entire claim to fame is reams of quaintly written text, which should suit you nicely.







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"Re(3):Sunless Skies of Rockman" , posted Fri 3 Feb 14:05post reply

I have been trying to elbow people all afternoon on Double Dragon IV. The game indeed feels quite lackluster compared to most of the other retro re-fits that we have had so far; I think the game is basically 1/4 the price of Wild Guns Reloaded, and that's actually quite a fitting description poduction wise.

Someone asked why they fell back on the NES visuals on this thread, right? Well, I can offer two good guesses, 1 is a rumor that I haven't confirmed that the staff for this game hasn't worked on the arcade versions at all, but has done work on the console versions thus their nostalgia is on this direction; 2 is that the inhouse dev team probably already has tools to develop NES style graphics because that stuff is all over the place and this isn't the only retro NES project this company handles.

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- No Schwarzenegger in any form (no disco bouncer from arcade nor seasoned soldier from the NES). Profound sadness.
- No Kunio & Riki (c'mon! we have the Dragon Twins in that universe, you know? and they even use the title theme!)
- No means to regenerate life other than stage clear, this was acceptable on the NES games due to how easy they were, but things are harder now. A DD1 method of "full life on spawn" might even have been acceptable since there are not that many room to room per stage. Additionally, there is no "0" life, after dying on "1" you need to continue, this confuses my little brain
- Every unique AI mechanic from the series is actually gone (the one that hurts the more being gone is the no hint about the enemy's remaining Hp). Between that and having the Lee brothers not look like Kenshiro lifelong admirers is damn sure a strange way of "keeping in touch with the soul of the series". Due to no mechanics for the AI, the mooks are basically quite improved since they are now equal to the characters resistances & attack wise; and they even have special moves to boot. This causes problems quite a few times, since enemy danger range is completely different to what the series has ironed in you during those thousands of runs of old.
- No difficulty selection nor the chance of gradually improve the game's length and ending via cimbing through them.
- The best thing most of us expected from this game could have been, was a mugen with almost everything of the NES trilogy + some new stuff..... and that failed completely to be delivered since this title masturbates too obscenly on 2, sometimes kisses 1 and tries to move on from a troubled past relationship with that crazy hot chick called 3. To sum this point better, for example you can actually fight in game and unlock to play the boss from DD1 (Jimmy), from 2 (that Souther clone), from 4 (obviously), but not the boss from 3 (Cleopatra). Can you imagine the large hole of emptines such void creates in our hot rod wild gang fighting afternoons??. ----- Also, Linda is the only one who can use both DD1 & DD2 "skins", they should have done that for everybody who could.

The last point is more evident since every Double Dragon game changed everything more or less (graphics & 'key of success' tactics), so what we really were hoping for in this game was a harder, better, faster, stronger game that has shade of all that sexual insecurity and awareness change process from those teenage years, all in one package.



------- Now, the reason why I'm playing this, and I might even play for a long time till I platinum it, is because unlike the afternoon nap easy that the NES game were; this game actually can offer the danger of being killed and quite some oftenly (you'll always hate it when Abobo spawns along another character that has decent attack range). When the AI decides to have the initiative on attacking you, it's very hard to hit them without getting hit (the old Konami fighting method of using the Y axis to lure enemies into your punch string hardly works, and most enemies out do you heavily on the X axis range); so you sometimes have to be quite radical when boarding that fighting, you also need to open your eyes and see the AI behaviour and observe who is being more aggressive---- a first for the saga, perhaps?. The only thing from a non NES port that was inherited here is the ability to juggling from the GBA game; and considering that the game is hard, you really want to make the most of it when it counts.

The tower can actually be intense, and rooms are randomized except for character unlock rooms, I think?

Billy and Jimmy are actually different (some combos are impossible to construct with Jimmy, but his 1 shot special moves seem to be "bigger" than outoto's); additionally Jimmy (boss) and Sonny are also different from the other dragons. At least, that wasn't a waste.

Now we'll resume our friday drinking. Abobo for president! Better yet, Abobo for Sunless Skies captain!!!

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"Re(1):There's A New Double Dragon Game Out To" , posted Sat 4 Feb 03:33post reply

Has anyone played Double Dragon IV yet?

Maybe it is fun, I don't know. But considering that Arc Systems is behind it, I was hoping for something more polished. You know, some sprites with better definition, gameplay innovations... maybe even using the Rage of the Dragons designs for Billy and Jimmy (but keeping the game as a beat-em-up).

Then again, sometimes a game can be surprisingly fun without all these things, so I'll keep it on my list of games to check.

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"Re(2):There's A New Double Dragon Game Out To" , posted Sat 4 Feb 06:16post reply

The posts by Ungenesis and Toxico were very informative even if they didn't contain any good news. I enjoy this style of game but there are very few modern examples and, judging from what has been written about DD4, even fewer titles that are worth playing. Why is it so hard in this day and age to make a game where you go somewhere and punch a bunch of people? At least we will always have the Yakuza games.





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"Re(3):There's A New Double Dragon Game Out To" , posted Mon 6 Feb 21:44post reply

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The posts by Ungenesis and Toxico were very informative even if they didn't contain any good news. I enjoy this style of game but there are very few modern examples and, judging from what has been written about DD4, even fewer titles that are worth playing. Why is it so hard in this day and age to make a game where you go somewhere and punch a bunch of people? At least we will always have the Yakuza games.



Well, there's a Power Rangers beat-em-up game (based on the Mighty Morphin' team, including a pre-order bonus with the White Ranger and the second Red, Black, Yellow and Pink Rangers) released in January. I don't know how good it is, and the animations often resemble Flash games judging from YouTube videos, but it allows to play with three other people (unfortunately everyone needs to be playing at the same place, because there isn't online multiplayer so far) and it seems to have some elements from the old (but GOLD) SNES games, so it may be fun.

With the MMPR film coming up this year, I wonder if there will be a future DLC pack to play as the rebooted and armored Rangers and/or fight rebooted and hot Rita (even though Machiko Soga's Rita will always be the iconic one).





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"Re(4):There's A New Double Dragon Game Out To" , posted Tue 7 Feb 08:18post reply

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Well, there's a Power Rangers beat-em-up game (based on the Mighty Morphin' team, including a pre-order bonus with the White Ranger and the second Red, Black, Yellow and Pink Rangers) released in January.


It amazes me they are charging good money for that Power Rangers game since it looks for all the world like a free app. Between that and the videos Toxico captured showcasing the "virtues" of DD4 it's dark times for beat 'em ups.





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"Re(5):There's A New Double Dragon Game Out To" , posted Tue 7 Feb 22:45post reply

Yeah, even though I think it looks fun, it's also much, much more expensive than it should be...





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"Re(5):There's A New Double Dragon Game Out To" , posted Tue 7 Feb 23:07:post reply

Being reminded that beat'em ups aren't a thing anymore makes me sad...Toxico's DDIV review and the Flash-tastic visuals in Power Rangers Mega Battle don't help me at all, of course. Seeing footage of Power Rangers disappointed me because, as far as video game graphics go, the only style that makes me turn down a commercial game is the "free browser game in Flash" one (Castle Crashers is great though, at least judjing from the demo when I tried it ages ago).

Too bad, because I had great expectations for the future of this genre when I first tried a demo of Fighting Force. I played that demo a lot, but never had a chance to play the full game. Fighting Force could have served as a template of sorts for the mainstream kind of beat'em up -didn't play Dynamite Deka at all, but being the Sega fanboy I am, I'll love it for sure when I'll be able to get my hands on it- and Guardian Heroes could have been the prime example of a more niche approach to the genre, in an age where 3d graphics had set a new standard for video game visuals.

EDIT: totally unrelated but I really feel like sharing this one with you guys. The reason I disappeared from the Cafe for a couple days is that I got too absorbed in Castlevania Akatsuki No Enbukyoku. What a sick game. I got informed about its major plot twist as soon as the game came out, but seeing it taking place when you are playing is something else entirely. Ah, and the Clock Tower theme is my favorite, just like Tragic Prince is my favorite track in Gekka No Yasokyoku. Just found a guitar cover of it :D My favorite moment from the game is the battle against

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"Re(6):There's A New Double Dragon Game Out To" , posted Wed 8 Feb 06:46:post reply

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Being reminded that beat'em ups aren't a thing anymore makes me sad...Toxico's DDIV review and the Flash-tastic visuals in Power Rangers Mega Battle don't help me at all, of course. Seeing footage of Power Rangers disappointed me because, as far as video game graphics go, the only style that makes me turn down a commercial game is the "free browser game in Flash" one (Castle Crashers is great though, at least judjing from the demo when I tried it ages ago).

Too bad, because I had great expectations for the future of this genre when I first tried a demo of Fighting Force. I played that demo a lot, but never had a chance to play the full game. Fighting Force could have served as a template of sorts for the mainstream kind of beat'em up -didn't play Dynamite Deka at all, but being the Sega fanboy I am, I'll love it for sure when I'll be able to get my hands on it- and Guardian Heroes could have been the prime example of a more niche approach to the genre, in an age where 3d graphics had set a new standard for video game visuals.

EDIT: totally unrelated but I really feel like sharing this one with you guys. The reason I disappeared from the Cafe for a couple days is that I got too absorbed in Castlevania Akatsuki No Enbukyoku. What a sick game. I got informed about its major plot twist as soon as the game came out, but seeing it taking place when you are playing is something else entirely. Ah, and the Clock Tower theme is my favorite, just like Tragic Prince is my favorite t

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"Re(7):There's A New Bomberman Arcade Game" , posted Sat 11 Feb 17:23:post reply

Konami just announced BomberGirl a 4v4 arcade co-op Bomberman starring ample breasted loli moe blobs whose clothes get blown off when they lose.

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/02/10/bombergirl-announced-4v4-co-op-arcade-game-jaepo-2017/

Of all the franchises that never needed a sexy makeover, I'd say Bomber Man is at the very top of that list.

The gameplay itself actually sounds pretty fun. The objective is to blow up the other team's base and each character has unique skills such as the ability to lay down blocks.

Just ... wtf, seriously. I have a high tolerance for exploitative BS. But my god. Is it not enough to just have a fun Bomberman game? Was this makeover absolutely necessary? #ImOld






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"There's a bug-themed metroidvania" , posted Sun 12 Feb 06:28post reply

Pfff, Nobi, wash your eyes from this Konami-themed erotic violence and gaze upon the glory of one of my most anticipated games of 2017 (I backed the kickstarter as soon as it was opened!).
Feature list
* 2D art
* Symphony-of-the-night-like (since "metroidvania" means everything and its opposite, it's better to clarify)
* More monsters than SotN
* MANY MORE ARTHROPODS than SotN

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"Re(1):There's a bug-themed metroidvania" , posted Sun 12 Feb 14:16post reply

Hollow Knight sounds awesome, the initial presentation for it is way more charming that Bloodstained; though the plataforms for it make it sure hard for me to touch it.....

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"Re(2):There's a bug-themed metroidvania" , posted Sun 12 Feb 21:16post reply

...I've always considered the bunny girl showing up in some PC Engine Bomberman -I tried to find pictures but I can't seem to find any, but I'm sure you guys remember her- a nice, playful touch, but this stuff...WTF?? xD

Hollow Knight looks fantastic, and so is Iggy's perplexity about the word "metroidvania", which I wholeheartedly share. Do you think Igavania is any better as a definition?





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"Re(1):There's a bug-themed metroidvania" , posted Sun 12 Feb 22:19post reply

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Pfff, Nobi, wash your eyes from this Konami-themed erotic violence and gaze upon the glory of one of my most anticipated games of 2017 (I backed the kickstarter as soon as it was opened!).
Feature list
* 2D art
* Symphony-of-the-night-like (since "metroidvania" means everything and its opposite, it's better to clarify)
* More monsters than SotN
* MANY MORE ARTHROPODS than SotN

Could it be the perfect game for you and me?



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"Re(3):There's a bug-themed metroidvania" , posted Mon 13 Feb 04:11post reply

The highlight of the video is when the player calls up the map screen the little Hollow Knight pulls out his own map to study. If the game only had sexy bug girls throwing bombs it would be perfect.







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"Re(1):There's a bug-themed Iggyvania" , posted Mon 13 Feb 14:26post reply

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Pfff, Nobi, wash your eyes from this Konami-themed erotic violence and gaze upon the glory of one of my most anticipated games of 2017 clarify)

I...

Let me try that again.

I, I think it's great that you have hobbies, dear. Now why don't you go show those bugs to your younger brother Nobi outside of the house and tell mom how it was a little later?
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"Re(2):There's a bug-themed Iggyvania" , posted Tue 14 Feb 01:57post reply

I was interested in For Honor due to it looking like a high budget Musou game. After playing the beta I suspect it's actually a high budget version of those Deadliest Warriors tie-in games.





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"Re(1):There's a bug-themed metroidvania" , posted Tue 14 Feb 17:51post reply

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Pfff, Nobi, wash your eyes from this Konami-themed erotic violence and gaze upon the glory of one of my most anticipated games of 2017 (I backed the kickstarter as soon as it was opened!).
Feature list
* 2D art
* Symphony-of-the-night-like (since "metroidvania" means everything and its opposite, it's better to clarify)
* More monsters than SotN
* MANY MORE ARTHROPODS than SotN

Could it be the perfect game for you and me?



WHHHHHAAAAAa this game looks great! Of all the Symphony-of-the-night-likes this is by far the most interesting I've ever seen! I mean, obviously I love the bug theme! But the gameplay actually looks FUN too! And the graphics actually look polished. They're surprisingly cohesive for a hand drawn non pixel art 2d indie game. None of the assets scream "look-at-me-I-was-drawn-in-photoshop!" Everything meshes together well and conveys a coherent world. The animations are very good too! They look very responsive and it's very clear what is an attack and when and how something might hurt you (this isn't always clear when you have a game made by people who are not used to animating for games!). I feel like a pretentious jerk saying this, but there's so many things that this game DOESNT do that really stands out! They really know their stuff. I can't wait to play it!

Also kudos to them for going through with a limited color palette. I think that's a brilliant way to cut down on development time, and they figured out a good palette that doesn't seem lacking at all.

I'm really impressed through and through.

Where do you keep up with indie games Iggy? (and everyone else).

Are there good sites or forums? Or do you just follow a few individual creators?

For me I just follow folks on Twitter here and there. But it seems like there are many interesting projects that fly under my radar for YEARS.

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"Re(2):Legend of Zelda: DLC of the Wild" , posted Tue 14 Feb 23:02post reply

[I-I'm a bit nervous here. On one hand Nintendo's DLC has usually been substantial but on the other hand, Hard Mode being a DLC just seemed a bit iffy. That said, I'm all up for a brand new story campaign and dungeon. I'm just hoping they do a good job with that, though.







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"Re(2):There's a bug-themed metroidvania" , posted Tue 14 Feb 23:39post reply

Yeah, there is quite a difference between Super Metroid and SotN, and mixing them into a "Metroidvania" blender erases the nuances. It's like calling Nioh a Dark Souls clone: it takes a lot of inspirations from it, sure, but it erases the Ninja Gaiden elements along with it.
Anyway, Hollow Knight seems to have picked its side and resolutely goes with SotN over Super Metroid, and I think it allowed them to have clearer development goals.

There has been several betas that I skipped because playing unfinished games often spoils the fun of the final release (especially when it is an exploration game such as this one), but I read they adjusted the gameplay, the jumps, the inertia and the sword slashes quite a bit since the first beta, so I have high hopes for the final product.
I was quite concerned that the "almost monochrome" palette qould make projectiles and attacks difficult to read, but so far they really seem to have paid a lot of attention to the legibility. As you said, it's an area that could have been overlooked, and seeing they paid attention to it gives me a lot of faith in the project.
The main character integrates well with all the backgrounds, yet pops up nicely without being jarring. Also, among the stretch goals they reached, there's another character, Hornet, with her own moves and nemesis, so that's quite exciting as well.
Plus, we have seen so many ugly 2D games with big pixels because "people dig the 8-bit days" that it's nice to have some beautiful looking hand-drawn art for once. And next year we'll get Indivisible, who also looks impressive!

As for keeping up with indies, I have the same issue as you do. Keeping track of everything seems impossible.
Kickstarter and Indiegogo are quite useful to hear about new projects once you're familiar with the interface of the sites. But then, you need to get a feel of what has a reasonable chance of being finished VS a project thrown together by hacks with no knowledge of the amount of work necessary to reach their goals. Concept art and no prototype is generally a good indication that you shouldn't trust these guys.
Also, anything with "retro" "Dark Souls" "Metroidvania" "8bit" and "rogue-like" raises a red flag, raise 3 and you're out.

NeoGAF has some very good all-indies thread, but even those tend to be cluttered.
Then... friends, early access, word-to-mouth, etc.

The problem with the kickstarter approach is that you need to be there when the funding happens. While a released game can still be played and enjoyed several years down the line, a failed kickstarter is failed forever.
For example, I keep hearing good stuff about Banner's Saga 3. I'd like to give them money, but I have yet to play the first one to know whether I like the series or not... but I know I won't in the foreseeable future, and the KS of the 3rd episode will probably be finished by then...







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"Re(3):Legend of Zelda: DLC of the Wild" , posted Wed 15 Feb 01:56post reply

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What makes this plan great for Nintendo -and bad for everyone else- is that any of the early buyers of the Switch are going to buy Zelda. Since they are already forking out money for a new console a bit extra for some DLC isn't going to mean much so this DLC set is probably going to sell quite well.







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"Re(4):Legend of Zelda: DLC of the Wild" , posted Wed 15 Feb 02:18post reply

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What makes this plan great for Nintendo -and bad for everyone else- is that any of the early buyers of the Switch are going to buy Zelda. Since they are already forking out money for a new console a bit extra for some DLC isn't going to mean much so this DLC set is probably going to sell quite well.



It's also Zelda, which means the bar for sales is even lower.

That's not a dig at the quality of Zelda games, it's just an observation that most of the Zelda fans I know (practically all of whom identify as 'hardcore') would buy nearly anything in the franchise, sight unseen.





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"Re(5):Legend of Zelda: DLC of the Wild" , posted Wed 15 Feb 08:33post reply

My favourite thing is that the bundle is identical on Switch and WiiU.
Meaning that not only can you wear a glaringly out of place Switch t-shirt in your game, you can also pay and chose to be advertised a Switch even if you keep playing it on WiiU.





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"Narita Boy!" , posted Fri 17 Feb 19:35post reply

I just got wind of an AMAZING new indie game called Narita Boy. Here's the initial trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SUos6MgTjA


It's made by a team called Studio Koba, who are originally from Spain, but lived in Japan and picked up some team members there. The game is a beautiful homage to old point and click adventures like Another World, but with a very modern, very unique sensibility. It's definitely not just a nostalgia play, there's stuff in here that I've never seen before.

This is one of the most visually interesting indie games, or just games in general that I've seen in a while! And for once, that's not a knock on the current state of games, I'm just really impressed with what they've accomplished so far in Narita Boy! The art direction, animation, quality of sprite art, the environments, the FX, it's all really well done!

Here's the website:
http://www.studiokoba.com/

And you can follow the team on Twitter here:
https://twitter.com/studiokobaGAME

The Kickstarter starts on Feb 21, 2017! Mark your calenders! (And don't forget that also happens to be Kofoguz's birthday too!)






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"Re(1):Narita Boy!" , posted Sat 18 Feb 08:23post reply

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Narita Boy

I'm speechless. This looks so good I had to stop people from doing whatever boring work they were doing to watch that.
The funny thing is that I don't have a clear idea of what kind of game it wants to be, but with visuals like these I almost don't care.
After all these years, yes, graphics are more important than gameplay sometimes!

Much less amazing but still intriguing:

Secret Legend, made by one guy on his own (plus another one for the music), end of 2017. Cute.

Night in the Woods, available on the 21st.







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"Re(1):Narita Boy!" , posted Sat 18 Feb 10:31:post reply

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old point and click adventures like Another World,



I don't know what Another World you played, but it was definitely not a point and click adventure for most of the rest of the world! That game was hard!

The weird spindly leg walking animations and body proportions makes me think of somewhat recent games like "Sword and Sworcery" and "Gods Will Be Watching", except a lot lot better than "Gods Will Be Watching". Actually, how people walked in that game really bugged me.

I'm with Iggy in that I don't know what this game actually is about and it may as well be a music video, albeit a cool one. I get a lot of FLCL vibes from it, actually.

That said, I find myself... not that hyped for the beetlevania, or even this, because I don't feel hype for how it plays. I'm sure the Arthropoda Dracula is going to be very mechanically competent and with hard hitting combat, but I think I just want to play action games that play substantially differently from ones I've played so many of before.





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"Re(2):Kamurocho Boy!" , posted Sat 18 Feb 13:18:post reply

One person's take on Yakuza 0

Kojima in the past has said that the reason why there's so much humor in the Metal Gear games comes from his belief that the games would be unbearable in their seriousness and tension if they didn't contain farce.

I think that the unique flavour of MG humor isn't just on Kojima's inherent weirdness, but partly due to a very strong grasp of the characters, universe, and mechanics of MG. As such, they're able to compose genuinely absurd scenarios for them that feel absurd because of how they run counter to the characters/universe/mechanics/etc. I feel like the EDF games have a similar grasp on the spirit of EDF, which is what allows such a consistent sense of humor even when you are presented a new joke you have never heard before in an EDF game. Part of Insect Armageddon's failure as an EDF game was that it was just completely straightfaced serious. EDF has terrific opportunities for entirely earnest humor, jokes about itself, deadpan humor, and so on, and it plays to them. It has like 5 different ways to make your character shout "EDF!!!", and an entire set of chat commands where you can make "Vague Responses".

In the case of Yakuza, where you take on all these goofy sidequests, the notion of taking your solidly established heroes and throwing them into absurd scenarios that they somehow just go along but without breaking character is just fun. They feel like omakes at the end of a manga chapter. That it is Kiryu contemplating a chicken makes it 10 times funnier than it being a random user created character contemplating a chicken, because we have experience with his typically serious and stoic character. I think really at the heart of it is taking the characters and the world seriously, such that scenarios can be crafted that are entertaining in that context. It's like getting a comedy feature about Kiryu double-billed with an earnestly serious drama feature about Kiryu.

That's my take, anyway. Iggy in the past said to me that Japanese Solid Snake is a very different character from the English one, conveying a different tone to all the proceedings in spite of having approximately the same lines. So in terms of Japanese (popular) literature and cinema, is there a structural/stylistic aspect that Western observers aren't familiar with? For instance, the presence of farce in tragedies is a longstanding tradition in classical Western literature, but it tends to come at particular and sometimes predictable moments, in addition to employing farcical characters written for that purpose. Ruben talking with me about the play in 4 acts in the Japanese tradition when I talked with him about a Korean movie whose cinematic cues kept making me think that the movie was about to end made me reflect on this with regard to the integration of comedic scenes in Asian works.





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"Re(2):Narita Boy!" , posted Sat 18 Feb 15:16post reply

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old point and click adventures like Another World,


I don't know what Another World you played, but it was definitely not a point and click adventure for most of the rest of the world! That game was hard!




Sorry wrong term, I was just thinking "lushly animated adventure game" in general. Narita Boy looks to be cut from the same cloth as Another World, Prince of Persia, Flashback, Abes Odyssey, Heart of Darkness etc. In my mind I tend to lump those games together with Kings Quest, Monkey Island, Grim Fandango etc, but yeah they're actually super different!

I'm not usually a huge fan of the square body spindly limb look. It makes everyone look dopey, whether that was the intention or not. Even on Narita Boy I kind of dislike his sword animations. The posture is very goofy. But I think that was a conscious decision at least. And I love everything else about the game.

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"Re(3):Kamurocho Boy!" , posted Sat 18 Feb 15:39post reply

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Kojima in the past has said that the reason why there's so much humor in the Metal Gear games comes from his belief that the games would be unbearable in their seriousness and tension if they didn't contain farce.


Tezuka's narratives also strongly embody this value. This was actually a difficult pill to swallow for a lot of readers when Vertical and Viz started to release his serious works in English (side note: my friends at Viz told me that they always knew that the Phoenix books wouldn't be profitable in North America, but it was a matter of principle. Those books HAD to be released for the good of humanity!)

Berserk and well, COUNTLESS MANGA in general, took this cue from Tezuka.

But I think it definitely goes further back into a general sensibility in East Asian storytelling. Old Chinese and Japanese stories are often full of slapstick humour alongside serious drama. I've seen so many Chinese movies that flip between drama, then comedy, then romance, then potty humour then "oh my god I can't believe they just killed that little kid on screen!" I remember seeing a Tarantino interview where he talks about how Chinese movies tend to hit every note, often unpredictably. He called it a "peasant" sensibility, in the way that even Victorian plays would have bawdy jokes for the peanut gallery.

From my own experiences, I don't think it's necessarily that East Asian culture has a different storytelling sensibility so much as Hollywood and North America are the odd ones out. The Hollywood system has created the most refined, predictable, formulaic way to tell stories the world has ever seen. I've been to movie studios where they have spread sheets charting the exact emotions each scene is supposed to hit. They have precise metrics on feelings! This has lead to people expecting very specific emotional arcs out of movies/games/tv/etc.

I've been a huge advocate of Ghibli with my friends throughout my life. I remember one friend, a fellow animator who loved Disney said that she likes Miyazaki, but is kind of stressed out by how "you can't tell where the story is going to go." For me that's a huge positive though! And I think a lot of people who grew up on Hollywood stuff, but want something different will feel similarly. I hope Yakuza does super well in the west!

I'm really glad that American culture is finally getting over the whole "OMG WTF ASIANS ARE SO WEIRD" thing and just trying to enjoy things for what they are.

One thing that I find that a lot of Americans still get, if not "wrong", then "interpret difefrently from me" is I think they ascribe more irony or sardonicism
to things than are actually intended. Like when Yakuza or Metal Gear undermines it's own seriousness, it's not saying "YEAH SERIOUS STORIES SUCK HAHA, WERE TOO GOOD FOR THEM" they're just, like you said, taking an opportunity to tell some jokes in ways that are actually very peculiar to those specific settings and characters.

Another example is One Punch Man. I love ONE's storytelling because he's able to poke fun at stuff while also championing it. One Punch Man is as much a parody of Shonen Tropes as it is a VERY EXCELLENT shonen fighting comic itself. A lot of fans see it as "yeah it makes fun of all that STUPID SHIT" but actually it's a celebration of all that stuff, distilled into a form that recognises that there is much to be cynical about in the world yes, but hey comics can be pretty awesome still!

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"Re(4):Kamurocho Boy!" , posted Mon 20 Feb 11:44post reply

I love where this thread is going, and I love you guys so much. This is exactly the type of debate you can only have on MMCafe, and that's *exactly* what makes this place so special. You guys have raised so many interesting points I'd like to comment that I don't even know where to begin!

Let's just say that Nobi hast pretty much nailed what makes One Punch Man so great:


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Another example is One Punch Man. I love ONE's storytelling because he's able to poke fun at stuff while also championing it. One Punch Man is as much a parody of Shonen Tropes as it is a VERY EXCELLENT shonen fighting comic itself. A lot of fans see it as "yeah it makes fun of all that STUPID SHIT" but actually it's a celebration of all that stuff, distilled into a form that recognises that there is much to be cynical about in the world yes, but hey comics can be pretty awesome still!


It's so nice to be acquainted with people that actually "gets" what the good stuff is about!

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"Re(5):Kamurocho Boy!" , posted Mon 20 Feb 15:41post reply

I really hope Iggy replies to this, being a person who has formally studied Japanese literature!

Personally for me OPM isn't wholly a shonen manga, it's a lot of seinen manga. The hallmark of shonen sports manga and shonen fighting manga is that if you work really really hard and have a burning spirit and a bunch of good friends, you can accomplish anything. Maybe that wasn't true for Jojo's Bizarre Adventure part 3 where it was about stupendous badasses who were stupendously badass from the get-go, but it's absolutely true for the bulk of the successful ones of the past few decades: One Piece, Naruto, Hajime no Ippo, and on and on and on.

OPM expresses a lot more of the seinen sensibilities you'd find expressed in things like I Am A Hero ("Even if I can't be the hero of my own story, can't I at least be the main character?"), where the realization is that most people aren't Kenshiro, they're going to either be the villagers or the random thugs, and no matter how hard they try, they're going not going to be Kenshiro. Fukumoto's endless mangas about crazy games and gaming have a bleakness to them constantly expressed about the limits and disposability of ordinary people. His "Legend of the Strongest Man Kurosawa" is incredibly depressing, showing a middle-aged man who has lived a boring life and can't find any meaningful joy in it. It's the kind of sentiment that a person who has graduated university and has had to go on the job hunt during a recession and can't find work would sympathize with, or the person who was good in school but is now in a menial position at a boring job faces. It's the existential challenge shown when you are confronted with the world and an endless, upward trajectory suddenly isn't there anymore.

OPM tackles a lot of things interestingly. Like, a ton of the monsters look and are named like really lame takes on tokusatsu type monsters, but occasionally they take on incredible menace (see: Sea King), which is a remarkable feat. A lot of the heroes honestly seem really lame, but Murata's rendition of them manages to make them cool, which throws you for a loop. But then when these heroes get slain by really lame monsters, you're again stuck between the monster being really lame but really menacing, or the heroes being deeply humiliated to be defeated by such lame monsters (rather than being defeated heroically by awesome monsters), etc. Saitama himself runs counter to the whole "work really hard, burning spirit, good friends" troika of themes in shonen because he no longer works hard at all, seldom has any spirit, and barely has any friends. Existential angst in OPM is much deeper and more pervasive than in shonen works, where it can often be dismissed with a simple "I don't know, but does it really matter? Just keep fighting/working hard/talking with your friends, because that's what matters!"

Mumen Rider is one of the ultimate heroes of OPM because he's worthless as a superhero. In wrestling parlance, He jobs magnificently to Sea King, a fight he never had a chance in: Mumen Rider, who did nothing of real worth towards the defeat of Sea King, manages to elicit powerful emotion from the audience towards him and Sea King. Sea King's stature as a villain is stupendously improved by Mumen Rider, in spite of Mumen Rider's lack of impact on him.

OPM walks this line between parody and earnestness really well, even when it chooses to dip heavily in one direction or another.







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"Re(3):Kamurocho Boy!" , posted Mon 20 Feb 20:11post reply

I've been playing thorugh Yakuza 0 as well, and it's been quite a ride. Actually, my girlfriend's been the one actually playing most of it recently - the whole thing clicked with her in a similar way to how Jojo's has, possibly due to the particular charm of tough and tough-looking guys frequently finding themselves in really silly circumstances while never really using the imposing aura, between the brutal fight scenes and the quiet tension of the primary narratives.

It was interesting to see the video mentioned above mentioning Takeshi Kitano, since his career does feel like a reminder of a principle that seems pervasive both in his work and stuff like the Yakuza series, that of action and comedy being mediums where timing and intensity play a big role (something that also may apply a lot of some mixes of comedy and horror, it seems, but I'm not that much into horror to assess that properly). In Yakuza 0, in an almost paradoxical way the most intense scenes seem to be the ones where the major yakuza bosses are simply talking in an almost affable tone about deals with implicit threats to upend or end someone or a city's life, which makes for quite the visual contrast of something like Kiryu dramatically picking up a phone of kicking someone in the head, which in that setting are kind of commonplace events.

The talk of Ghibli work reminds me of a notion on how there's a lot of talk in Hollywood screenwriting about the importance of a story being driven by a protagonist really wanting something, or of having a really good villain/antagonist, and how Ghibli seems to eschew that. In Totoro, for example, the titular character seems entirely irrelevant to the actual story, which is mostly about dealing with an illness in the family and the possibility of loss - the concept isn't likely to bring people to watch, so Totoro and the imaginative stuff like the cat bus are bait for the audience to get them to come watch the core theme, that of preparing for loss. Other Ghibli movies that I can think of seem to follow a similar pattern (Look at the wonderful moving castle! And by the way, here's what it may feel like to see your youth gone, which you will experience if you live long enough), but it's not like I've watched all of them, but it's been interesting to see that any antagonistic forces tend to be either indifferent forces of nature or people with perfectly reasonable motivation which could have easily been the protagonists in a slightly different retelling of the same events.

In a way, perhaps Yakuza's brutal action and silly moments work as bait to get people acquainted with the peculiar economic dynamics that the game introduces, at least in 0? You set you to fight some people in the streets, and a few chapters in the game has you dealing with real estate speculation and managing a business (heck, Majima's introduction in the game is practically a masterclass at this on its own).

I'm yet to even see the 2nd half of the game, so maybe I'm pretty misguided on what the game's actually about, especially not having played the previous ones, but it's certainly worthwhile so far, and I'm looking forward t what lies ahead.





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"Re(6):Kamurocho Boy!" , posted Mon 20 Feb 21:09post reply

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I really hope Iggy replies to this, being a person who has formally studied Japanese literature!
I actually wrote a lengthy answer to that about Kabuki, Nô, ancient roman theater and that asshole named Aristotle, but as I proofread my post I thought "what kind of pompous prick wrote that shit?" and I erased everything.

I'll try to make a shorter, less obnoxious version at some point when I'm done slapping some common sense into myself.







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"Re(7):Kamurocho Boy!" , posted Tue 21 Feb 07:52post reply

One thing to keep in mind here is that longer form narratives such as manga or video games have the space to add enough content to create a richer tone. As an example, if a film such as Moana -which is about as mainstream Hollywood as you can get- wants to have action, comedy, emotion and a few musical numbers inside of less than two hours it has to be jumping. Or to put it another way, the recent Dredd movie had to keep a very tight focus in order to be successful while the comic is free to veer from serious to parody thanks to it running for years and years.

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That's my take, anyway. Iggy in the past said to me that Japanese Solid Snake is a very different character from the English one, conveying a different tone to all the proceedings in spite of having approximately the same lines.

I never really considered that part of my problem with the MGS games could be due to the translation. Using the examples in this thread, I've never had a problem with any of the situations in the Yakuza series. Whether it's manly action or some absurd circumstance it always works because Kazuma is the same character no matter what the circumstance. But when MGS goes from something ugly like the discussion of child soldiers to people chasing after girlie magazines it just feels like tonal whiplash to me. Perhaps Kojima has a more deft touch in Japanese?







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"Re(7):Kamurocho Boy!" , posted Tue 21 Feb 12:49post reply

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I really hope Iggy replies to this, being a person who has formally studied Japanese literature! I actually wrote a lengthy answer to that about Kabuki, Nô, ancient roman theater and that asshole named Aristotle, but as I proofread my post I thought "what kind of pompous prick wrote that shit?" and I erased everything.

I'll try to make a shorter, less obnoxious version at some point when I'm done slapping some common sense into myself.



Well with a preamble like that, my hype levels are super-high! Looking forward to reading it!

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One thing that was a definite problem is that the more open the structure of the game is, the less control there is over when things get encountered. So like you said, you could go straight from deadly serious child-soldier drama to silly smut mag hijinks, as opposed to a smoother transition of dramatic tension and subject material.

That doesn't excuse the times when things are perfectly linear and are just poorly directed, though.







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"Re(8):Kamurocho Boy!" , posted Tue 21 Feb 12:58post reply

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That doesn't excuse the times when things are perfectly linear and are just poorly directed, though.
I mean, it's possible to explain Kojima direction as a thoughtful pastiche where the lack of sneering American-style irony enables playful joking and deadly seriousness to coexist in a Japanese-language setting...or it's also possible that his stuff is dilettante pop-culture hodge-podge as per the inane opening to MGS5, which forced me to watch a horrible hospital slasher film and then play Gears of War and then outrun the headless horseman, all of which I hated, but then at least I got to launch goons off to my base by attaching them to balloons.

As with Xenogears, there's often enough good stuff at the core that you have something to enjoy despite the glaring lack of an editor. So which of these two is Kojima? You decide. (Or wait for Iggy.)





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"Re(7):Kamurocho Boy!" , posted Thu 23 Feb 03:25post reply

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I really hope Iggy replies to this, being a person who has formally studied Japanese literature! I actually wrote a lengthy answer to that about Kabuki, Nô, ancient roman theater and that asshole named Aristotle, but as I proofread my post I thought "what kind of pompous prick wrote that shit?" and I erased everything.

I'll try to make a shorter, less obnoxious version at some point when I'm done slapping some common sense into myself.



I'm super looking forward to this. No pressure! Seriously, don't hold back!






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"Re(3):There's a bug-themed metroidvania" , posted Sun 26 Feb 19:16post reply

Going back to the last topic: Hollow Knight is surpassing my most optimistic expectations.

Graphically, the trailer made the areas look a bit same-y, but once you play they are actually very unique, and full of little details that allow you to know where you are. Now I understand why the game is so humongous (9 Go!): no tile-set, unique environments and fantastic 2D animation don't come cheap. The "setting-that-tell-a-story-just-with-the-background" is working very well.

The music is fantastic, but even better, the sound effects are perfect. Some of the hit sound effects have just that chitinous "crunch" effect that is exactly what it should have been. I'm happy the attention to details went all the way there.

Controls are perfect as well: very low-key and down-to-earth movements and attacks that respond to the frame. The main moveset is very simple and easy to understand, which is the best foundation to build upon. Most of the powers I've gotten on top of that so far remain on the modest side. No strange gravity shenanigans or overpowered nonsense: if you want that wall jump, you'll have to work to get it. The only thing that's a bit unsettling is that the recoil when you hit is a bit extreme, and you sometimes end up jumping to a platform, hitting the thing there, and being pushed back down the platform by your own hit, so caution is advised. If the intent was to underline how light and frail you are, it works. The game starts up quite easy, but slowly ramp up the difficulty; the last place I've explored was really tough. Fortunately, it seems it was made on purpose, because after dying a lot I met an NPC (all the NPCs are charming!) that told me "have you explored in the other direction? there may be something that could help you" and indeed, there was a better weapon. I like that I could have received the weapon first but ended up there by virtue of exploration, and could have overcome it by being super awesome, but they added the NPC for scrubs like me and that's a really nice touch.
The magic system is interesting: either you use it to attack, or you stand motionless for a while to recover HP, and you only regain MP by hitting enemies, so the balance during bossfights is an interesting one. It also solves the issue of health in-game: you can die in very few hits, which makes the exploration tense, but you always have that handy tool if you need it, without any inventory management annoyance or relying on random enemy drops. Another very simple and elegant piece of design in a game that's full of those.

My favourite thing by far is the exploration (which is the most important in a game like this). The map is a bit peculiar: you don't have any at the beginning, and you'll use the money you get during the first hour of game to buy and upgrade it to something usable. But even once you've bought all the map-related things, it's still less overpowered than in most Igavanias: you can only have the map of an zone if you found the hidden cartographer in that section, which means most places are explored blindly the first time. The maps you buy have only the biggest areas of the zone and are very incomplete, but any area you discover isn't automatically updated: you need to find a save spot (a bench where your character rests) so that he can draw on the map the places he's discovered. Finally, the GPS system is not totally free: it has an opportunity cost, an equipment slot that in some instances you may prefer to forfeit for something that will allow you to live longer or alleviate some of the risks (the game has the Diablo/Souls thing of losing your money if you die and have you recover them there, but fortunately it also has several optional systems to mitigate the loss).
All this together solves another issue of metroidvanias: here, the map is a useful tool, but it's not an absolute substitute to exploration. You still need to be active on your end to recognise patterns, specific marks or enemies. You're thrown in the dark as soon as you enter a new place, and need to pay attention to your surroundings (which forces to admire the surroundings, and the fantastic parallax scrolling!). This only strengthen the ambiance, between urbex (some abandoned Victorian metro station, for example) and speleology (with some truly alien places that will give you pause).

Scarlet Grace was the de-facto GOTY for 2014, 2015 and 2016, but it has a strong contender for 2017 (I mean, aside for the fact that Scarlet Grace wasn't released in 2017).





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"Re(4):There's a bug-themed metroidvania" , posted Mon 27 Feb 01:24post reply

I noticed this topic went way beyond 100-150 posts but I am not sure when to start a new topic since there are so many open discussions; I assumed we should get a new one up when the Switch and Zelda have arrived. Even without work and trips getting in the way, it'd would have been hard to keep up with the insane amount of interesting games we got in Q1 and this post above me on Hollow Knight is not helping.





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"Re(5):There's a bug-themed metroidvania" , posted Mon 27 Feb 05:32post reply

The developer of Ori and the blind forest explains why he doesn't like Hollow Knight, and also explains why Ori bored me to death. At least Guacamelee had fun combat mechanics and atmosphere to keep me awake when I was not following the arrow to the next objective marker. How dares an exploration game be structured like a maze!

It sounds like the guy who made last year's most critically acclaimed metroidvania didn't even play Super Metroid (or maybe he watched it in AGDQ every year, which is almost the same?)

Sigh, modern gaming.





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"Re(6):There's a bug-themed metroidvania" , posted Mon 27 Feb 08:53post reply

He(?) has clearly nothing to win in doing that, so at least it's rare and interesting to get an honest and detailed opinion from a fellow developer towards a rather similar product with an explanation of their own approach and focus in game design. I hope the Ori guy won't get lambasted for being open about his criticism of the game.





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"Re(7):There's a bug-themed metroidvania" , posted Mon 27 Feb 22:37post reply

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He(?) has clearly nothing to win in doing that, so at least it's rare and interesting to get an honest and detailed opinion from a fellow developer towards a rather similar product with an explanation of their own approach and focus in game design. I hope the Ori guy won't get lambasted for being open about his criticism of the game.

True, I never stopped to think about why I disliked both games and probably a couple of other forgettable self-styled "metroidvanias", so that's a good conversation starter (and ender).

I am so happy to have delayed my Switch order, I really couldn't have copped with Zelda on top of the rest. Poor people who have Horizon on top of that...





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"There's a hell-themed backlogvania" , posted Tue 28 Feb 00:48:post reply

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I am so happy to have delayed my Switch order, I really couldn't have copped with Zelda on top of the rest. Poor people who have Horizon on top of that...



I am pretending that the Switch (and Zelda) doesn't exist for a while.

Honestly I have never really worried about having a backlog before. I am pretty selective about how and where I spend my time. But these days I no longer play games as a crucial component of my job, and making a big move at the beginning of the year has kind of screwed me (I won't actually own another HDTV for at least another week or two).

So right before I moved, I made it to maybe Chapter 10 in Final Fantasy XV... I am telling myself I will go back and finish it when they roll out that patch that will supposedly "fix" what I hear is a really shitty chapter 13.

Last Guardian has been shoved way back in the queue, but I waited for that game for so long that there's no way I'm going to skip it entirely (and I've had a physical copy since release day). So I might start playing Nioh, which likewise has not been touched... but Nier is coming out soon. And unfortunately my wife preordered Horizon: Zero Dawn, which sounds like it's actually really good.

Nioh kind of worries me. I consider myself to be fairly skilled in all ways of contending at Souls-esque games, and I did complete all the content for the first two betas, including the crazy optional bosses... but I'm not sure if I'll be able to play another game alongside it without splitting my focus/possibly getting stuck and neglecting the game for a week and letting my skills dull, making the game even tougher to come back to and continue pushing forward.

Part of me just wants to chill out until Nier comes out and enjoy that (probably playing on Normal difficulty for a nice, breezy playthrough). I hope that the game will not be ultra-unsatisfying after achieving just one ending.

Maybe I should wait on Horizon: Zero Dawn until I can get a switch and Zelda, so I can compare/contrast the two. Besides, it's usually safe to wait a couple of years to buy a Nintendo console... there's only so much backlog fuel they can throw on the fire without actual third-party support (hahah).

FUDGE. I forgot about Mass Effect! So after that, then, I can pick up a copy of Yakuza 0. But... what about Persona 5? I'm starting to think that I'm too old for it... can I really go back to highschool again?

UGH. So the truth is that if these games don't really grab me, I am probably going to have the waiter take them away after picking at them. Or at the very least, skip a whole bunch of optional content.

I think the last game I finished was Assault Suit Leynos. Maybe I should just go full retro, look forward to in-English Romancing SaGa 2 on Vita which still has no firm release date, and throw off these shackles of gaming modernity. But there's no fucking way I will not be all over Culdcept Revolt.





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"Re(1):There's a hell-themed backlogvania" , posted Tue 28 Feb 03:12post reply

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I am so happy to have delayed my Switch order, I really couldn't have copped with Zelda on top of the rest. Poor people who have Horizon on top of that...


I am pretending that the Switch (and Zelda) doesn't exist for a while.

Honestly I have never really worried about having a backlog before. I am pretty selective about how and where I spend my time. But these days I no longer play games as a crucial component of my job, and making a big move at the beginning of the year has kind of screwed me (I won't actually own another HDTV for at least another week or two).

So right before I moved, I made it to maybe Chapter 10 in Final Fantasy XV... I am telling myself I will go back and finish it when they roll out that patch that will supposedly "fix" what I hear is a really shitty chapter 13.

Last Guardian has been shoved way back in the queue, but I waited for that game for so long that there's no way I'm going to skip it entirely (and I've had a physical copy since release day). So I might start playing Nioh, which likewise has not been touched... but Nier is coming out soon. And unfortunately my wife preordered Horizon: Zero Dawn, which sounds like it's actually really good.

Nioh kind of worries me. I consider myself to be fairly skilled in all ways of contending at Souls-esque games, and I did complete all the content for the first two betas, including the crazy optional bosses... but I'm not sure if I'll be able to play another game alongside i

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The only thing I have to add to this is that one of my most anticipated game localizations, Suda51's "The Silver Case", is getting new scenarios, and I still haven't gotten around to playing through that game. There are far too many top-shelf games I want to play that I don't have time to!







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"Re(2):There's a hell-themed backlogvania" , posted Tue 28 Feb 06:46post reply

I was going to say that there's a chance either RomaSa.Ga2 or Scarlet Grace would be ported to Switch and localized then, so hope exists... until I remembered SQEX decided their first HD port of a PS2 game outside of FF would be Star Ocean 3, and not... if not Minstrel's Song, at least literally anything else.
Even an HD port of Vagrant Story, even with low-res texture, would have been better than revisiting the game that killed Star Ocean.

So, yeah, who knows.

As for Persona 5: if you missed the train the first time, wait a bit longer, I'm pretty sure they'll announce a P5G++ before the end of the year. Patience is virtue!







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"Re(3):There's a hell-themed backlogvania" , posted Tue 28 Feb 12:00post reply

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the game that killed Star Ocean.

That might've been Star Ocean 2. Or wasn't the fourth one really skeezy? Either way, RomaSaGa 2 on Switch would be an instant system-seller for you, me, and at least twelve other people. Why am I not in charge of Square's business strategy?
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There are far too many top-shelf games I want to play that I don't have time to!
Tell me about it!


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dudes, dudes, I think I might buy a Switch if they add Virtual Console and it doesn't suck this time (and maybe even if it does)

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"Re(4):There's a hell-themed backlogvania" , posted Tue 28 Feb 23:57post reply

I'm also stuck with the problem that there are suddenly too many games and not enough me. In the end I picked one at random and decided to start with the latest Mass Effect. The multiplayer in ME3 was surprisingly fun so I'll be happy to get in on that once again. That, and I'm really looking forward to meeting my new space boyfriend. (Sorry about adding that URL to your search history.)





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"Re(5):There's a hell-themed backlogvania" , posted Thu 2 Mar 04:50post reply

Sorry for being so ridiculously random, but I've only seen this today, retweeted by an SNK developer (Watanabe if I remember well), and it hit me like a truck.

Maybe the most beautiful figure from a Japanese work of fiction I've ever seen.

Not only that, it also make me aware of the existence of a Rockman X manga, and I read a scanlation of the first chapter. While I admit Iwamoto took advantage of the "X can get emotional" gimmick too much and I find those eyes inappropriate on X and Zero, I really liked the chapter



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and it's interesting how the manga rightly portrays the X-Buster as a limited ammo weapon, which obviously can't be conveyed in the games for the sake of balance

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I may read the manga until the end (I only have the Rockman X 1 manga handy right now).





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