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| Spoon 2877th Post
  
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|  "Re(3):Fury Road" , posted Fri 15 May 12:15:  
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Saw it in Thailand. Movies tend to come out in SE Asia first, cos of the time zone difference and also probably to give people more reason to see it before it inevitably gets pirated onto DVD or streaming sites.
I should've guessed that! I remember seeing Pacific Rim a day ahead of everybody else for the same reason!
A while ago when I was watching The Road Warrior with my folks, I thought about how affecting the violence of the movie was.
It occurred to me that though the cast of the movie was relatively small, nobody in the movie was a faceless soldier/suit/whatever. Absolutely everybody in the movie, even if they only ever spoke one or zero lines, had a unique appearance. There are tons of movies where an innocent bystander is endangered and by the audio/camerawork/trope we're supposed to feel all upset about what is happening, but I never really feel much for it aside from "oh, they are trying to pull my heartstrings right now".
In The Road Warrior, they managed to make everybody unique, and in seeing one unique character witnessing another unique character's death, it's affecting. Even the "faceless" characters which are masked are unique. In some movies having a horde of masked soldiers/killers/monsters/otherwise-identical-threats is used to create the feeling of being hounded and overwhelmed by this inhuman and monstrous force, but when the victims are insufficiently distinct and/or too numerous, we get the same effect: we feel the overall plot tragedy ("Oh how terrible, all those people died!"), but not a more personal or even more human tragedy ("Oh my gosh they killed the Amazon woman! And the midget mechanic tried to save her and he was so anguished and in trying to save her he died, too! THEY'RE GONE FOREVER, THERE'S NOBODY ELSE LIKE THEM IN THE WHOLE WORLD!").
In spite of the realism of scenes of mob panics in modern big productions, I do wind up with less sympathy for them because I interpret them as a mob that I don't get to know, a visual metaphor, and a plot device. It's hard for me to feel personal tragedy for a mob, even when it's a mob of innocents.
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| karasu 1495th Post
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| "Re(6):Fatal Fury Road" , posted Mon 18 May 07:14
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I saw this movie at midnight last night, and it was astounding. I don't think I was able to function in any coherent way for a while after seeing it.
Oooof, Spoon, we should take our spoiler filled conversation elsewhere, but I've got quite a bit to say about it.
A non-spoilery snippet: the use of ritual in the first 5 minutes of the movie is nuts. Spoon, you refer to it as religion, but I think it's more basic even than that. And they get it 100% right. It's just nuts.
Speaking of spoilers, anyone reading this who has the physical capability to go see this movie should drop everything and go see it right now. I don't often/ever say such a thing, but this is a completely tranformative film, I'm guessing a first for this kind of action movie. I'll be astounded to ever see it topped, even with the new Star Wars on its way. Forget the Marvel movie garbage, this is where mainstream film need to head toward.
You have to carefully reproduce the world of "Castlevania" in the solemn atmosphere.
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| karasu 1499th Post
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| "Re(10):Fatal Fury Road" , posted Mon 18 May 09:09
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I don't remember when was the last time I was so enthusiastic about a movie.
I feel the same way. I've been chronically jaded, viewing all the dumb Marvel movies as written for the lowest common denominator whole critics hail them as perfect. And along comes this film where Max is a sort of savior with Fusiosa and the movies is a sort of savior to modern film. It's good stuff.
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This is a movie that is not subtle about its themes. That's not a bad thing, especially in a film that never stops to collect its thoughts. When the villains include a mutant businessman and a guy who rolled in from Bullet Town it makes it feel as if the loss of civilization caused everyone to ascend into being pure archetypes. That said, what the hell was up with Immortan Joe? What path did that man's life take that caused him to decide to create a personality cult in which he dressed up as a cybernetic version of Grandpa Munster? If there was ever an argument against predestination it's Joe because I doubt anyone saw that one coming.
This is a film built on momentum. It's not just the cars but every action the characters take is designed to keep them one step ahead of the inexorable machine that is grinding up the world behind them. Stop moving and you're dead. It reminds me of the first Raid movie or the first Terminator film. That this rapid pace is present in the fourth Mad Max movie is remarkable.
It's a well thought out film. Everything presented in the movie has a point. Too many films use outlandishness as a cover for poor structure. In Mad Max 4 every quirk serves a purpose. From Max's twitchy flashbacks to his obsessive need hoard every bit of junk he sees as if he was playing Fallout, it all has an eventual payoff.
This is the third time George Miller has remade "Shane." Good for him!
It's... remarkable that a movie can keep track of its pieces so well. When a bolt cutter appears it will be used and kept track of until the end of the movie. When a gun has 3 bullets, it will damn well be used exactly 3 times, no more and no less. The level of design for the enemies is bordering on the ludicrous. Stating that Immortan Joe, the Bullet Farmer, and the People Eater are the ones who killed the world sets them up as the horrible, older generation who did nothing while everything went to shit.
After seeing the film my wife and I watched Road Warrior, the ostensibly best post-apocalyptic movie of the 80's. It didn't hold up well, with such interesting characters as the Humungous being killed off in a boring second just to end the movie. I won't even mention Beyond Thunderdome in any such dicussion. My only thought is that like Megaman, it's an engine propelled solely on nostalgia.
As a result, I'll nominate Fury Road as the best 80's movie ever made. Without question its budget would have been unobtainable circa 1989, so we could never have gotten such a movie absent 30 years of thinking about 'how awesome the Mad Max movies of the 80's were'.
The bottom line is that people will be writing about this film for generations, and will be totally justified in doing so.
You have to carefully reproduce the world of "Castlevania" in the solemn atmosphere.
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| nobinobita 1409th Post
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| "Re(6):Fatal Fury Road" , posted Mon 18 May 14:19:
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I can't wait to see what Miller does next with Happy Feet.
YES. Rituals! Also, Happy Feet is clearly the prequel to Mad Max.
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Forget the Marvel movie garbage, this is where mainstream film need to head toward.
So gratifying to hear that not just from you, someone who is naturally analytical about what you ingest, but from many other people who've actually never given that much thought into how much depth an action movie can have till now! They are awaiten!
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This is the third time George Miller has remade "Shane." Good for him!
A lot of people whose opinions I trust pretty implicitly talk very favorably of Shane. I better see it!
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I had lost hope that Hollywood could produce anything interesting anymore, and suddenly, out of nowhere, Mad Max.
I don't remember when was the last time I was so enthusiastic about a movie.
Thanks for your kind words! I lost all hope for Blockbusters with Prometheus. After that I thought "hope is a mistake." But Fury Road has rekindled this hope. Especially when in all seriousness, I hear people all over saying "wow, I should raise my standards for what I expect from an action movie now."
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After seeing the film my wife and I watched Road Warrior, the ostensibly best post-apocalyptic movie of the 80's. It didn't hold up well, with such interesting characters as the Humungous being killed off in a boring second just to end the movie. I won't even mention Beyond Thunderdome in any such dicussion. My only thought is that like Megaman, it's an engine propelled solely on nostalgia.
I can't think of another example where a respected creator returned to the work that made them famous significantly later in life and actually IMPROVED on something that was already hugely iconic. I'm sure there are other examples but I'm drawing a blank right now.
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| karasu 1501th Post
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| "Re(7):Fatal Fury Road" , posted Tue 19 May 02:34:
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So gratifying to hear that not just from you, someone who is naturally analytical about what you ingest, but from many other people who've actually never given that much thought into how much depth an action movie can have till now! They are awaiten!
Har har, I knew the moment I walked into the theater that this would be a movie you'd appreciate Nobi!
More importantly for me than even the action movie renaissance this represents is how it discards plays at nostalgia without discarding any of the aspects that made the older movies great in the first place. That way the nostalgia is completely on the viewer, not on the director. He gives you tiny bits of it, like the Pursuit Special and Max's jacket, but that's it. I wish that modern games could do this very same thing when dealing with some storied franchise!
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I can't think of another example where a respected creator returned to the work that made them famous significantly later in life and actually IMPROVED on something that was already hugely iconic. I'm sure there are other examples but I'm drawing a blank right now.
I can't think of any off-hand. Most of the time with such a huge gap-- 30 years in this case-- the franchise has been watered down and handed off to a succession of other folks.
EDIT: Oddly enough the only examples I can think of are from the video game world, for example: Toru Iwatani, who created Pacman in 1980, and then in 2007 made Pacman Championship Edition.
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| "Re(3):Re(10):Fatal Fury Road" , posted Mon 25 May 03:37
I finally saw the movie on Friday.
Holy damn... there were neat big things I was expecting, like Doof Warrior the best war bard ever, but then the movie's also full of smaller but eloquent details, like the the fact that one of the items the thirsty masses use to get what little water they can get their hands on is a bedpan, the ways and places characters hide their weapons in, and that not only the villain chase party includes that flawethrower guitar bard, it also uses a field accountant/tallyman to keep track of of the fuel, ammo and vehicles lost in the chase, because clearly the grunts aren't expected to be able to report on that sort of info, or survive the process - the fact that that guy in particular is known as People Eater probably says a thing or two about the sacrifices his calculations must have implied in the past.
Also, my girlfriend was reluctant to go with me to see such an action movie, but left in tears over the developments with one of the secondary characters, which was quite the surprise.
I read that Miller might have plans for a sequel, but I wonder if he can do justice to the planning behind this without as much time to really think all of its details through...
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| chazumaru 1494th Post
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| "Re(4):Re(10):Fatal Fury Road" , posted Sat 30 May 20:42:
I saw the movie Tuesday. I enjoyed it. I am not as ecstatic as others but it's rare that I feel I can confidently recommend an action movie to my mother who is more of an intellectual moviegoer and would never bother with Marvel movies. In that sense, I am also glad it's not as gore as Mad Max 2 (for instance).
I am not a big fan of the last third of the movie and its Devil May Cry-inspired level design, but I liked the simple overall concept of the fugitive caravan and a chase through memorable landscapes. More importantly, the action scenes highlight some issues with the recent director choices for Marvel and DC movies; those guys are better for filming banter than brawls. It was nice to see Mad Max in a theater whereas I don't mind waiting to catch up with Avengers 2 on a plane.
It is possible I have shared this idea here before, so I apologize if I am repeating myself, but I am convinced (even more so after watching Mad Max) they should remake Magnum, P.I. with Charlize Theron as the titular Magnum, P.I..
She could be banging the same chicks, drive the same Ferrari, be helped by the same crew (just replace "Vietnam war buddies" with Irak or Afghanistan), have the same investigations in Honolulu, and the same Mike Post opening soundtrack (but remixed by Justice). They could have Higgins replaced by a cool granny like Betty White or Vanessa Redgrave, or John Cleese if he needs money for his next divorce.
Charlize could be John Magnum's niece, visiting Honolulu because he disappeared, taking up his old job, and Tom Selleck would pop up in the season finale as a special cameo explaining he is undercover or running away from a crime he did not commit (or did commit... I believe the original Magnum series ended pretty darkly for the main character).
Let's consider we now live in times where breakthrough mainstream lesbian scenes have even heterosexual viewers feeling all nostalgic now. Who would not watch Lesbian Bad-Ass Magnum in 2015? Which actor would refuse a few months shooting a show with Charlize in Hawaii? I am sure someone at FOX, NBC, ABC or CBS is reading the MadMan's Café looking for clues on how to save their network from Youtube and Netflix. My gift to you.
FX Guide has a good article on the special effects of Mad Max: Fury Road. And "the blond girl" has an instructive Instagram post on how she got that body.
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| nobinobita 1414th Post
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| "Re(5):Re(10):Fatal Fury Road" , posted Mon 1 Jun 16:40
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I saw the movie Tuesday. I enjoyed it. I am not as ecstatic as others but it's rare that I feel I can confidently recommend an action movie to my mother who is more of an intellectual moviegoer and would never bother with Marvel movies. In that sense, I am also glad it's not as gore as Mad Max 2 (for instance).
I am not a big fan of the last third of the movie and its Devil May Cry-inspired level design, but I liked the simple overall concept of the fugitive caravan and a chase through memorable landscapes. More importantly, the action scenes highlight some issues with the recent director choices for Marvel and DC movies; those guys are better for filming banter than brawls. It was nice to see Mad Max in a theater whereas I don't mind waiting to catch up with Avengers 2 on a plane.
It is possible I have shared this idea here before, so I apologize if I am repeating myself, but I am convinced (even more so after watching Mad Max) they should remake Magnum, P.I. with Charlize Theron as the titular Magnum, P.I..
She could be banging the same chicks, drive the same Ferrari, be helped by the same crew (just replace "Vietnam war buddies" with Irak or Afghanistan), have the same investigations in Honolulu, and the same Mike Post opening soundtrack (but remixed by Justice). They could have Higgins replaced by a cool granny like Betty White or Vanessa Redgrave, or John Cleese if he needs money for his next divorce.
Charliz
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I would definitely watch this movie. Not many action movies starring leading ladies with swagger. I think this would be a big hit!
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