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"EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sat 7 Jul 00:31post reply

EVO 2012 is upon us!
Main streaming site here

Overview of tournaments leading up to EVO and EVO schedule

The single largest fighting game tournament in the world by player count, it'll run from The 6th to the 8th. I highly recommend that you get some friends together and gather around a big TV with some food. The streaming site is terribly professional this year, allowing you to switch between 3 concurrent streams: the two tournament gameplay streams, and a third stream of interview/panels.

I'm also terribly excited for this side event:
ST tournament of legends

I'm really looking forward to a lot of things this year, such as seeing Dakou vs. Kaoru in KOF, whatever crazy stuff the Marvel players have been secretly discovering....
I hope everybody else gets a chance to enjoy this as much as I will!






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"Re(1):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sat 7 Jul 01:07post reply

KOF pools beginning now!

SF4 has still been running. magus1234 and UltraDavid are looking and sounding professional as commentators.





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"Re(2):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sat 7 Jul 01:52post reply

http://www.twitch.tv/xiei

They are running some side events. For the next couple of mornings they will be showing P4A as well as some BB and GG.

twitch.tv/8wayrun

They are showing VF's side tournament.





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"Re(3):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sat 7 Jul 02:43post reply

Here I thought I might actually get something done today. Silly me.





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"Re(4):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sat 7 Jul 06:51post reply

They had a 5v5 Team Mexico vs Cafeid (Korea) FT20 "Crown" setup last night that went on until about 230am eastern time which, naturally, Bala scored most of the wins and led Mexico to victory, but Bala was defeated once by Verna, I think? But he ran that back a couple more times afterward. Then they had a Team Mexico #2 (led by Romance) vs China, but I didn't stay up to watch that and didn't get results.

Kaoru had a match earlier but it was pretty one-sided. BALA looks like he's sandbagging like mad, Mr. KOF was defeated by a player named Zeroblack, TheAnswer also makes it out of pools in winners. And they're not streaming the rest of today's matches, sadly because they had to switch games :/





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"Re(5):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sat 7 Jul 14:00post reply

I didn't manage to watch the friday KoF coverage, but for those who did, was there a reason to worry about "shirt monsters" not actually playing the game to the point that there might be too little matches going on at any given time?





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"Re(6):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sat 7 Jul 14:09post reply

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I didn't manage to watch the friday KoF coverage, but for those who did, was there a reason to worry about "shirt monsters" not actually playing the game to the point that there might be too little matches going on at any given time?

Nope, reportedly, at least a great majority of the people showed up to play their matches, dunno if it was 100%. It was actually the KOF players themselves who ended up wearing the shirt while playing, and nobody could say anything because they were well-known players from the start. The finals will be very intense from the looks of it and Bala finally has a chance of losing a major, not that I have anything against Bala, but it would be boring if he didn't have competition.





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"Re(7):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sat 7 Jul 15:01post reply

Legendary KOF player Xiaohai makes top 8 in SF4AE, eliminating Haitani's Makoto!

Last year's SF4AE champ, Fuudo, is eliminated by the American Guile player Dieminion!

Poongko sent to losers by HK player HumanBomb! But Poongko manages to keep winning and makes it into top 8!

The top 8 is made up of 8 different characters in SF4AE this year!

I totally can't wait to see how UMvC3 will shape up tomorrow!





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"Re(8):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sat 7 Jul 17:09post reply

I didn't get to watch much today, but...

This

is completely bonkers. Daigo with all those poorly placed dragon punches and miracle ultra wins. It's almost like he was taking damage on purpose to make the ultras hit harder, but...no way...that's too scary to think of.





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"Re(7):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sat 7 Jul 18:08:post reply

Quick recap of the KOF13 stuff that's happened at Evo-

Day 0 Mexico vs Korea exhibition matches
http://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby/b/323837934

Day 0 Kaoru vs Mr.KOF money matches
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18278547 - Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18279091 - Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18279161 - Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18279365 - Nico

Day 1 Evening Money Matches
Results are at Orochinagi
http://orochinagi.com/2012/07/evo2012-mm-match-results
Note: Kaoru and the other Jp players apparently decided to money match playing cards amongst themselves rather than KOF. Seemed to make more money that way too.

Day 1 Tournament Results Summary
A more comprehensive results list than that on SRK is available here - http://kofkoucha.wordpress.com/

USA: Of the top 4 players, BALA, Reynald, Romance qualified. Mr.KOF qualified in losers. Other qualified players include The Answer, Combofiend, ChrisKOF, Kane317, Choysauce, David Kong, Dirty Sanchez, Metaphysics, Juicebox Abel, RealKim, TC Pepe, The Beast.

Mexico & Chile: Kane9999, Ricardo “Matharazo” Saavedra and Kenshintl qualified. Cubo qualifies in losers.

Japan: Kaoru, Kubo, Mago, Sange Tencho, Kyabetsu qualified. Kazunoko, Umezono qualifies in losers. Results for Haitani unknown.

Korea: MadKOF, Poogko, Verna, Lacid, and GUTS qualified. Pikachu and CafeID's translator qualifies in losers.

China: Dakou qualified. Xiaohai qualifies in losers (sent by MadKOF).

Taiwan: Ah Ren (Yang Yao Ren) qualified.





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"Re(9):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sun 8 Jul 00:38post reply

quote:
I didn't get to watch much today, but...

This

is completely bonkers. Daigo with all those poorly placed dragon punches and miracle ultra wins. It's almost like he was taking damage on purpose to make the ultras hit harder, but...no way...that's too scary to think of.



He gave Gamerbee that one round for free. Dude straight rope-a-dope'd him the entire time.





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"Re(9):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sun 8 Jul 01:39post reply

quote:
I didn't get to watch much today, but...

This

is completely bonkers. Daigo with all those poorly placed dragon punches and miracle ultra wins. It's almost like he was taking damage on purpose to make the ultras hit harder, but...no way...that's too scary to think of.



I watched that match live, but my internet connection was poor, so it was quite an experience; I'd see Gamerbee get up a nice lead, then my stream would cut out, and suddenly I'd see a super KO screen with Ryu winning the round.

HumanBomb trading perfects with Poongko was crazy, as well.

The SF4AE top 8 includes:
Winners Bracket
Korea - WW.MCZ|Infiltration (Akuma, Gouken)
Japan - MCZ|Daigo Umehara (Ryu)
Hong Kong - HumanBomb (Sakura)
Puerto Rico/USA - CVPR|PR Balrog (Balrog)

Losers Bracket
Taiwan - AVerMedia|Gamerbee (Adon)
USA - BT|Dieminion (Guile)
China - eLivePro.Qanba|XiaoHai (Cammy)
Korea - TH|Poongko (Seth)

Latif, whose Viper was so impressive last year, failed to make top 8. He lost to top JP Yun player Kazunoko, and then was eliminated by Daigo. Daigo avenges his defeat last year by beating Latif.

No Yang players made it to top 32.
The fantastic JP Sakura/Viper player Uryo was eliminated by Mike Ross, who in turn was eliminated by the JP Bison player Dogura. Meanwhile, John Choi and Alex Valle made top 32 for the billionth time in their careers. Tokido surprisingly failed to make top 32, getting sent to losers by Eric Hai and then getting eliminated by Mago.

I really don't know who to cheer for in top 8. HumanBomb and Dieminion are the dark horses, but I just feel compelled to cheer for an HK rep. Daigo's ability to pull magical wins out of the most preposterous situations is wonderful. Poongko's Seth is a thrill to watch, especially when he gambles command throw after command throw and lands them because his opponent is terrified of his devastating combos and resets. If Xiaohai wins this and KOF, he'll definitely be one of the greatest EVO champions. And what if Infiltration wins it with Gouken? Goodness.





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"Re(8):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sun 8 Jul 02:38post reply

quote:
Quick recap of the KOF13 stuff that's happened at Evo-

Day 0 Mexico vs Korea exhibition matches
http://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby/b/323837934

Day 0 Kaoru vs Mr.KOF money matches
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18278547 - Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18279091 - Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18279161 - Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18279365 - Nico

Day 1 Evening Money Matches
Results are at Orochinagi
http://orochinagi.com/2012/07/evo2012-mm-match-results
Note: Kaoru and the other Jp players apparently decided to money match playing cards amongst themselves rather than KOF. Seemed to make more money that way too.

Day 1 Tournament Results Summary
A more comprehensive results list than that on SRK is available here - http://kofkoucha.wordpress.com/

USA: Of the top 4 players, BALA, Reynald, Romance qualified. Mr.KOF qualified in losers. Other qualified players include The Answer, Combofiend, ChrisKOF, Kane317, Choysauce, David Kong, Dirty Sanchez, Metaphysics, Juicebox Abel

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To add for the chilean crew (since all off the named in the list are mexican), Zeroblack advanced for winners, toblipa and kaneblueriver for losers





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"Re(9):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sun 8 Jul 04:07post reply

Dakou defeated in KOF13 by Fox 2-0, and it isn't even close. My goodness.





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"Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sun 8 Jul 10:08:post reply

KOF13 finals matchup-

Winners:
Bala vs Romance
CAFEID Verna v sCAFEID Guts

Losers:
CAFEID Lacid vs Yang Yao Ren
AS Reynald vs CAFEID MadKOF


Kaoru after being sent to losers by Romance(congrats!), was taken out of the tournament by Kyabetsu who only had a week of practice in the game.

Two nights ago, Kaoru's close friend Umezono reportedly forced Kyabetsu to play 10 matches against Kaoru, humiliating him with a 1-9 result. Kyabetsu apparently downloaded Kaoru during those losses and had his revenge. He wasn't good enough to advance to top 8 though.





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"Re(2):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sun 8 Jul 10:24:post reply

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Two nights ago, Kaoru's close friend Umezono reportedly forced Kyabetsu to play 10 matches against Kaoru, humiliating him with a 1-9 result. Kyabetsu apparently downloaded Kaoru during those losses and had his revenge. He wasn't good enough to advance to top 8 though.



I wasn't even aware that Kaoru played, but eventually I realized that he was out when he left some depressive messages on his tweeter. I haven't realized that the japanese call the strong US players Shitennou.

Let's hope that Kaoru stops playing cards in the casino and gets to fight some people tonight, it might be a good experience for him.

edit : Tokido just had an embarrassing match in VF5 with a tons of perfect and stuff. I think that it was a prize fight or something, based on performance I would say that he hasn't played VF5 for more than 15 minutes.






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"Re(3):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Sun 8 Jul 14:09:post reply

ChrisG vs Scrubex was probably one of the single most amazing UMvC3 matches I've ever seen. Scrubex's team of Skrull/Spencer/Modok is designed to counter ChrisG's team of Akuma/Morrigan/Doom (in whatever order), in sometimes hilarious fashion: in Modok vs. Morrigan with no assists, Modok literally flys to the top of the screen and runs the clock, as well as running out her mirror image meter.

With Skrull and Spencer having anti-air grabs combined with Modok's balloon bomb assist, his opponent doesn't get to jump around for free; Doom doesn't even get to foot dive freely for fear of hitting a balloon bomb.

Just a brilliant match.

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Yipes vs. Justin Wong featured a moment in the end where Justin just showed how well he knew his opponent and the match: twice Yipes tried to active Spiral Swords, and each time Justin instantly countered him with a super from Storm.

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Mame Spider's Spiderman is otherworldly.


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Frutsy' extreme underdog team with Modok, Captain America, and Taskmaster has taken him far. Impressive!

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Mexican modok player in top 8! mexidok?





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"Re(4):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Mon 9 Jul 08:51post reply

KOF13 top 8 is on right now!

A lot of uncharacteristic combo drops making for unexpected excitement through the matches.





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"Re(5):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Mon 9 Jul 09:56:post reply

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KOF13 top 8 is on right now!

A lot of uncharacteristic combo drops making for unexpected excitement through the matches.



Finals right now and Bala loses the first match, but his opponent needs to reset the bracket.

*edit*

GRAND Finals have started. Bala chose Ralf and Clark in those last two matches which seemed weird since he was doing so well with Billy.

Its insane that this is truly on another level.





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"Re(6):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Mon 9 Jul 10:23post reply

Mad KOF's Duo Lon is truly on another level. Mad KOF is coming back strong, and is up 2-0 in the final set!

BALA has tried a bunch of interesting picks just to try to solve Duo Lon, from Billy to Ralf to Clark to Iori. It seemed like Ralf was a good pick, but Mad KOF adapted.





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"Re(7):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Mon 9 Jul 10:44post reply

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Mad KOF's Duo Lon is truly on another level. Mad KOF is coming back strong, and is up 2-0 in the final set!

BALA has tried a bunch of interesting picks just to try to solve Duo Lon, from Billy to Ralf to Clark to Iori. It seemed like Ralf was a good pick, but Mad KOF adapted.


Oh god, they can't NOT have KOF next year, even if it doesn't receive an update. That was just too good. As many people realize, Bala IS human and can be beat and it wasn't just a "Bala fund drive" as joked often, when people say they get bored of Bala always winning things. I was waiting for MadKOF to pull out that mad tech he's been saving up with Duolon.





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"Re(8):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Mon 9 Jul 15:11post reply

Xiaohai eliminates Daigo in SF4!
I don't even know what's happening anymore





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"Re(9):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Mon 9 Jul 15:53post reply

Very dominant performance by Infiltration this year and by Korea it would seem in general. I am sure we may see more of them next year for KOF and SFIV, but I have the feeling that SFxT will be dumped due to it not being popular unless a major balance patch is released or they do something drastic like allow gems.

SFIV finals almost seemed to go by too fast like the players just wanted to get it over with since it started so late. They really need to try to get some tighter scheduling. Those impromptu VF5FS finals, the TTT2 and Injustice demos probably added an hour to the schedule.

UMvC3 was great. That Ifrit guy almost had it a couple of times and for being on of the "unknowns" he did pretty damn well.

KOFXIII was probably the best grand finals of them all. It was a bit shocking to see BALA taken out of his element, but MAD KOF really had to scrap for it.

MK9 is the only game to have a repeat champion in Perfect Legend, but it was the only game that didn't get a major balance overhaul from what I know of. Just allowed the use of DLC characters this year.

VF5FS was great, but as expected the Japanese won and Fuudo no less. I hope it is picked up as a main game next year over SFxT.

SCV was great, it really made me want to pick up the game, but I am already so invested in KOF and MvC3. I hope to see it next year too and it is not kicked off in favor of TTT2.





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"Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Mon 9 Jul 23:01post reply

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SFIV finals almost seemed to go by too fast like the players just wanted to get it over with since it started so late. They really need to try to get some tighter scheduling. Those impromptu VF5FS finals, the TTT2 and Injustice demos probably added an hour to the schedule.

I agree, the finals felt surprisingly flabby especially considering how quickly the first two days flew by. While I would have liked to watch everything live I dropped out partway through UMVC3. Although the show could certainly go on without me it's not as much fun to read the results the next day. Oh well, I'll be catching up on the matches I missed for the next month anyway so I might as well a re-run of the finales as well.

It's funny, while the KoFXIII grand finale had a lot of great things going on it also had a sense of inevitability to me. When Bala sat for the longest time and stared at the character select screen I sensed the poor guy didn't have a game plan and was probably doomed. Too bad I wasn't in Vegas or I could have bet against him.





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"Re(2):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Tue 10 Jul 04:36post reply

Since I know most about SC5 I'll start there.

SC5 was a pleasant surprise, pretty much defying all expectations and showcasing characters that people had barely even considered. Surprisingly nobody from Europe made top 8, meanwhile Asia was all over it. Shining Decopon winning it all with Tira (who many consider to be low tier) in such decisive fashion against many of the supposed "top tiers" just proved how little anyone really knows about this game. I really hope this isn't the last we see of SC5 at Evo, because it's apparent that the surface has barely been scratched there.

Didn't watch MK9 or VF5. I guess Marvel did its thing again even though I don't follow it. Seems weird that this game can generate such a steady stream of hype in spite of how everyone bitched about it coming out too early after MvC3. Don't people like to hold grudges these days?

Speaking of grudges, SFxT was a mess, but it's hard to say how much was caused by the game itself and how much was caused by the general half-assed treatment it got. Some people think it deserves it; personally, even though I haven't played the game much I think this attitude is largely misguided. But that's how things go sometimes.

SSF4 could have been more hype than it was. I really got the feeling that they just wanted to get the finals over with.

All in all though, the most important part was that KoF was THE big hit of Evo this year. It feels so weird to write that. At first. Then it feels pretty good.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Tue 10 Jul 06:06post reply

SCV was pretty nice, and having a "low tier" win just made me want to hindsight bias remark about Kusoru and how people should have learned by now not to fall back on tiership so much...yet, right now, I'm sure people are now going "Tira top tier!! Cheap!!!!! Nerf her" instead of saying "Oh, there's some undiscovered potential in her, maybe we're being too jaded and idiotic about tiers." Remember what I said before about KOFXIII and Japan's clinging to tiers? Maybe you don't, but I did mention that was actually a big vice, no pun intended.

Didn't watch UMvC3 or SFxT, heard UMvC3 was ok but people still griped about something that I didn't pay attention to, and SFxT...heh, nevermind. I don't think SFxT particularly deserves to be lambasted, but the way Capcom treats its potential customers and its products is just really disrespectful and taking the general consumer for granted, and it's a disgusting business approach that SHOULD be criticized. The game itself is just boring and fell short of the expectations.

quote:
SSF4 could have been more hype than it was. I really got the feeling that they just wanted to get the finals over with.
It probably costs a lot of money by the day just to rent that space so they didn't want to hold it off until the next day. But it does seem sloppy that they kept everyone doddling around on a Saturday.

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All in all though, the most important part was that KoF was THE big hit of Evo this year. It feels so weird to write that. At first. Then it feels pretty good.

I'm still pinching myself over this.





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"Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Tue 10 Jul 07:31:post reply

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Very dominant performance by Infiltration this year and by Korea it would seem in general. I am sure we may see more of them next year for KOF and SFIV, but I have the feeling that SFxT will be dumped due to it not being popular unless a major balance patch is released or they do something drastic like allow gems.

SFIV finals almost seemed to go by too fast like the players just wanted to get it over with since it started so late. They really need to try to get some tighter scheduling. Those impromptu VF5FS finals, the TTT2 and Injustice demos probably added an hour to the schedule.

UMvC3 was great. That Ifrit guy almost had it a couple of times and for being on of the "unknowns" he did pretty damn well.

KOFXIII was probably the best grand finals of them all. It was a bit shocking to see BALA taken out of his element, but MAD KOF really had to scrap for it.

MK9 is the only game to have a repeat champion in Perfect Legend, but it was the only game that didn't get a major balance overhaul from what I know of. Just allowed the use of DLC characters this year.

VF5FS was great, but as expected the Japanese won and Fuudo no less. I hope it is picked up as a main game next year over SFxT.

SCV was great, it really made me want to pick up the game, but I am already so invested in KOF and MvC3. I hope to see it next year too and it is not kicked off in favor of TTT2.



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Is there any place that has an archive of profiles of notable players? Kind of like www.sherdog.com's fight finder?

I think that would make these tournaments much more cohesive and exciting to follow for someone not totally in the loop.






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"Re(4):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Tue 10 Jul 10:11post reply

MvC3 was incredible, I couldn't believe how excited I was watching it at the venue.

I watched the entirety of KOF too, it was amazing seeing Clark and Ralf in there, amazing Mexico vs Korea battle.

It was nice to see VF sneak in there too. Great year for EVO... it was absolutely packed.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Tue 10 Jul 11:11post reply

So what exactly is Cafe ID BTW? Is it a group like Evil Geniuses or Complexity that somehow gets the scratch together to send players to various tournaments?





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"Re(6):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Tue 10 Jul 11:55post reply

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So what exactly is Cafe ID BTW? Is it a group like Evil Geniuses or Complexity that somehow gets the scratch together to send players to various tournaments?



It's a place in Korea where you can sleep and play videogames for about $10 bucks(?) per night. They have various consoles with sticks and arcade set ups and coffee etc. Sounds like an awesome place.





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"Re(7):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Tue 10 Jul 12:00post reply

Yeah, it's kind of like... a tiny manga kissa, except replace the word manga with game.

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Evidently the entire Cafe ID KOF crew was at Evo.





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"Re(4):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Tue 10 Jul 17:43post reply

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SCV was pretty nice, and having a "low tier" win just made me want to hindsight bias remark about Kusoru and how people should have learned by now not to fall back on tiership so much...yet, right now, I'm sure people are now going "Tira top tier!! Cheap!!!!! Nerf her" instead of saying "Oh, there's some undiscovered potential in her, maybe we're being too jaded and idiotic about tiers." Remember what I said before about KOFXIII and Japan's clinging to tiers? Maybe you don't, but I did mention that was actually a big vice, no pun intended.


I get the slight impression that encouraging the notion of top tiers, at least sometimes, is something of a metagame practice - if you get potential opponents to stick to certain characters, you don't have to learn as many matchups with a considerable level of detail and can stick to a few.

Speaking of SC5, did anyone actually use Ezio? Tira's been around for 3 games and some people were using Viola at MLG, but I wonder if anyone bothers with a character that might not return in sequels...

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All in all though, the most important part was that KoF was THE big hit of Evo this year. It feels so weird to write that



I like that this weekend helped to write an important chapter in KoF history, it feels like the sort of long struggle through hardship that people respect - that one game that's been snubbed for years (CvS doesn't count, especially when abusing badly-coded rolls is encouraged) getting its name chanted in the very middle of THE Capcom fighting game event after some of the most exciting grand finals to be witnessed there.

And in the process, the myth/stereotype of the supremacy of Mexico and general and Bala in particular being taken down also re-humanizes the game for everyone else when the usual champion stops feeling like such an iron wall to everyone else - and that the victory went to fans that paid they way there instead of being sponsored halps, as does the fact that the finishing blow was delivered through a character that represents their own country like no other.

I love me some SNK game lore, but this has the making of a nice real-life story asking for a follow-up, and the EVO organization would do well to make sure that happens next year.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Tue 10 Jul 20:29post reply

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I get the slight impression that encouraging the notion of top tiers, at least sometimes, is something of a metagame practice - if you get potential opponents to stick to certain characters, you don't have to learn as many matchups with a considerable level of detail and can stick to a few.
That's abhorrently lazy. If you have that kind of attitude, you don't even really deserve to place in any tournaments.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Wed 11 Jul 07:34post reply

I'm not nuts about Infiltration winning SF4, especially after winning SFxT with the lamest team possible. Still, that was Capcom's fault, not his, and he certainly made a fantastic showing in SF4. He had a confidence and a wildness that many of the other players seemed to lack.

I was also disappointed that the winning team in MvC3 was such a "typical" one when we saw so many interesting characters leading up to the finals.

I'm still catching up with all the KOF matches (I watched the finals). I was watching them muted, when I was thinking "I wonder what the commentary is like? They're probably just like WHOAAA WHOAAAA!" and as I un-muted it, that's exactly what I got. Still, I have a sinking feeling we won't be seeing it next year.

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Shining Decopon winning it all with Tira (who many consider to be low tier) in such decisive fashion against many of the supposed "top tiers" just proved how little anyone really knows about this game. I really hope this isn't the last we see of SC5 at Evo, because it's apparent that the surface has barely been scratch


SC5 is a sad story for me. I wish the development team had a little more time to finish everything they had planned for it, so it would've (hopefully) gotten a better reputation. Maybe people didn't really want a new SC and it wouldn't have done well anyway, but who knows. I think if the game had just a little more or didn't leave a bitter taste in so many people's mouths, it could be an enduring classic.

With the relatively low turn out this year and so many new fighters coming before next year, it'd be pretty unlikely to see it at EVO 2013, unless they bust out some unexpected update.

Speaking of unexpected updates, I'd like to see Capcom turn things around with SFxT, since there are a lot of things I like about the game, but with the tirade of new fighters coming out, even I find it hard to care about the upcoming characters or anything else. I don't have a lot of faith in Capcom improving its business practices or learning anything from this, even if I like the developers themselves. I feel like all they're going to take from this is "fighting games aren't as profitable as we thought" and "we need to rob people more secretly."





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"Re(4):Re(10):Re(10):EVO 2012 thread" , posted Wed 11 Jul 07:49:post reply

SFvTekken is unfortunately, mostly boring to watch. The clock runs out very quickly, so there are a lot of time outs, and in general it's just tick poke into big combo (not unlike Tekken itself!).

Also the finals didn't have very many interesting characters nor combos. The team thing that Tokido and Fuudo did was cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HQCEMDkuBs

But it felt so overpowered. Basically just a tick into death (if you have meter).

I really wonder what they could do to fix it... it would take a lot of revamping.





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