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"Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Thu 23 Sep 19:19post reply

Initial feedback from the MvC3 Fight Club:

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Watched so many fights, Answers are here. Thoughts are in another thread.

Push blocking pushes them anywhere from half to full screen depending on if they were grounded or not.

Double Snapbacks knock both point and assist character off screen.

Assists are juggleable if you kill the point and the assist is still being hit by say an assist.

Skrull's HCB+A is a really fast close command grab. HCB+B is the mid range one. HCB+C is anti air. Cannot combo into any command grabs.

I have yet to see an unsafe special move that isn't Shoryuken.

Doom felt really good. But he isn't at all like his MvC2 counterpart. QCFbuttons for Photon Array. =/

Skrull Tenderizer is ridiculously good. It is safe on block and does so much damage/combo into super.

Doom/Dante's missles are overheads. And they are assists. So overhead assists. Hooray unblockables.

Leading team in the game right now is Trish Skrull Doom in that order.

Thor is god awful. The way push blocking is Thor will never get in.

Doom's level 3 is a hit. He puts you into a cylinder container and gets on his crunk chair and laughs at you as you lose health.

Chun level 3 is SA3 from 3S.

Dante's level 3 is Stinger. Repeatedly.

Trish's level 3 is an autocombo with Sparda. Does around 50 hits.


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You can juggle assists if you can manage to launch them. You cannot OTG them though. I saw a super kill point and hit assist, 2 DHCs killed the assist. (Iron Man Chun Li Ammy methinks)

I don't think it was size related. Everytime I jumped in and got blocked I was fullscreen after 1 move. On all setups. For different characters.

Biggest IM strat of the night was IAD j.B overhead.


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No guard breaking. They come in really low to the ground.

Tri jumps are all overheads.

Iron Man
Trish
Dante
Chun
DOOM (j.MP hits twice)
Thor
Ammy (Kinda)

All could tri jump into godlike overheads. Really fast too. And mix that in with an overhead assist or Ammy's ice shot assist (Takes up like half the screen in ice) and you've got yourself crazy mixup.

Dorm can tri jump but he has no good air to ground attacks.
Same with Skrull.


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Question, if you snap the point out as their assist is coming in, can you kill the assist (like what Amir did to bbhood, when he snapped hood's IM, jumped over Doom's rocks then juggled Doom to death).
If the assist starts the assist animation yes. But when they do their taunt after the assist they are invincible after that.

If the point dies while the assist comes out, they just go straight into their taunt. Nothing to be done.

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Bunch of event pictures and a small writeup on the event. Those monitors they had were indeed pretty neat. No borders around the screen.
http://www.xboxpulse.com/2010/09/mar...own/#more-1912


Name says it all, really.

Simple mode footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=TdSCDo3gr0k


Few vids of people who can actually play a bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=ZvH41trfzsc
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=-b_a2WHcPt8
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=LDBue3cAwg8

Seth Killian opening speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=SjvI...eature=channel

Couple decent matches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=MXpE...eature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=pS2Z...eature=channel

Another decent match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=AAM_XcKgU6Y


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"Re(1):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Fri 24 Sep 05:39post reply

Nice reports!

I hope Chun-Li is a good fighter this time, or at least usable; I'll always love her, but she was very, very lame in Marvel vs. Capcom 2...

I'd also like to have Psylocke as a playable character, but she's probably not popular enough to be remembered this time... unfortunately.





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"Re(2):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Sat 9 Oct 10:08post reply

New characters are Arthur, that bozo from Bionic Commando reboot, Magneto and MODOK. Holy crap, it's MODOK!





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"Re(3):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Sat 9 Oct 11:19post reply

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New characters are Arthur, that bozo from Bionic Commando reboot, Magneto and MODOK. Holy crap, it's MODOK!



The Bionic Commando reboot was a sequel to the original NES game, and the character is the same one from the NES game. I'm not a big fan of the Dreadlock version, though.

Anyway, his gameplay looks awesome.

And yeah...MODOK...






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"Re(3):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Sat 9 Oct 12:52post reply

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Arthur



Now I have a reason to be excited about this.

Oh and MODOK? How much more random can they possibly get? Not that I'm complaining, mind you.





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"Re(4):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Sat 9 Oct 13:20post reply

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How much more random can they possibly get?



Good question. Adding Howard the Duck, perhaps? The Runaways' Leapfrog vehicle as a giant single-team character (like the giant characters in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom)? Squirrel Girl?

And these would be just the random Marvel choices; Capcom has a huge arsenal of randomness for itself... such a shame Phoenix Wright was already denied, but there are still Fiona (Haunting Ground) or Jennifer (Clock Tower) with the sole abilities to run and hide instead of fighting, or maybe that guy from Killer7 (it was a Capcom game, wasn't it?) changing personalities during the fight...





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"Re(4):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Sat 9 Oct 16:30post reply

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The Bionic Commando reboot was a sequel to the original NES game, and the character is the same one from the NES game. I'm not a big fan of the Dreadlock version, though.




Welp, people are hoping that his alt would be the original design.

Maybe they didn't want the original to be confused with Wesker (shades + cropped haircut) ? I dunno.






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"Re(5):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Sat 9 Oct 23:19post reply

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How much more random can they possibly get?


Good question. Adding Howard the Duck, perhaps? The Runaways' Leapfrog vehicle as a giant single-team character (like the giant characters in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom)? Squirrel Girl?

And these would be just the random Marvel choices; Capcom has a huge arsenal of randomness for itself... such a shame Phoenix Wright was already denied, but there are still Fiona (Haunting Ground) or Jennifer (Clock Tower) with the sole abilities to run and hide instead of fighting, or maybe that guy from Killer7 (it was a Capcom game, wasn't it?) changing personalities during the fight...



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"Please let there be Gene" , posted Sun 10 Oct 02:50post reply

Come on, we already have Viewtiful Joe and Amatterasu from Clover, such a shame if Gene from Godhand isn't in.

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"Re(1):Please let there be Gene" , posted Sun 10 Oct 03:16post reply

I haven't been too pumped about the cast in general (does anyone actually like Spencer?), but Arthur turned out really great! I'm impressed at how well they captured all of the weapons... his goofy jumps, too.

And the song...holy crap...that was almost too good to be true!





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"Re(2):Please let there be Gene" , posted Sun 10 Oct 06:58:post reply

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(does anyone actually like Spencer)


I'm such an enormous fan of Bionic Commando that I EVEN LIKE THE DREADLOCKED VERSION OF SPENCER SO SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

*takes medication and breathes deeply*

.... all that aside, the rendition of Arthur is extremely impressive! It really makes me wish that they made a GnG game featuring this version of him!

I also think that Modok is far more entertaining than I expected him to be, while Magneto is far more underwhelming that I expected him to be. Maybe it's the video encoding, but there seems to be really poor... definition? on his torso, etc... like, his suit is portrayed as being skin tight, but in the 2D marvel games his musculature was really apparent, while here it looks like a plastic red smear. I also don't think anybody looks like they're wearing a metal diaper to the extent that Magneto is.





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"Re(3):Please let there be Gene" , posted Sun 10 Oct 23:51post reply

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(does anyone actually like Spencer)

I'm such an enormous fan of Bionic Commando that I EVEN LIKE THE DREADLOCKED VERSION OF SPENCER SO SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP




Yeah, but will you like "Mustachio'd" Spencer? Can you handle the fact that he'll be able to JUMP?

Anyway, I like how MODOK is turning out. He seems to be a borderline comic-relief character...plus seeing a giant head thrashing on another character is just too cool.

We need more "joke" characters aside from MODOK and Deadpool--DAN!






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"Re(5):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Mon 11 Oct 01:42post reply

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How much more random can they possibly get?


Good question. Adding Howard the Duck, perhaps? The Runaways' Leapfrog vehicle as a giant single-team character (like the giant characters in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom)? Squirrel Girl?

And these would be just the random Marvel choices; Capcom has a huge arsenal of randomness for itself... such a shame Phoenix Wright was already denied, but there are still Fiona (Haunting Ground) or Jennifer (Clock Tower) with the sole abilities to run and hide instead of fighting, or maybe that guy from Killer7 (it was a Capcom game, wasn't it?) changing personalities during the fight...



Now that Arthur is in, I'll start hoping for the second player from Forgotten Worlds!

I think Killer7 was just published by Capcom, but I might be wrong. Harman Smith would be a great fit!

Man, how many characters is that so far? I keep thinking they must have announced the last few when even more pop up.





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"Re(6):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Mon 11 Oct 04:08post reply

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I think Killer7 was just published by Capcom, but I might be wrong. Harman Smith would be a great fit



Killer7 was developed by Grasshopper and published by Capcom. It was to be one of the "Capcom 4" that was supposed to elevate the gamecube to greatness (the other ones being PN03, RE4, and Dead Phoenix... though PN03 got panned, while Dead Phoenix got canned). As weird as Killer7 is, when a game features Amaterasu fighting MODOK, I think anything goes.

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Moustache bionic commando is a tough sell for me, because he has the preposterous challenge of trying to live up to fantabulous Shinkiro rendition of Rad Spencer. The ability to jump in the fully 3D Bionic Commando didn't feel blasphemous at all, but being able to jump in the classic setting will take me a little bit of time to accept. That said, the people that made BC ReArmed have such a fantastic grasp of how to make good levels in Bionic Commando that I'm not too worried.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering if Sentinel is going to be the crack-powered flying machine of MvC2, or if they're going to make him more like a TvC giant just to infuriate all the MvC2 faithful.





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"Re(4):Please let there be Gene" , posted Mon 11 Oct 16:04post reply

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Anyway, I like how MODOK is turning out. He seems to be a borderline comic-relief character...plus seeing a giant head thrashing on another character is just too cool.

We need more "joke" characters aside from MODOK and Deadpool--DAN!



But the whole game is a borderline joke in a good way. It's hard to take such a concept seriously!

I think Namor and Red Arremer would be perfect, but I'm not going to have my hopes up as so many fan favourites are still unannounced.





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"Re(1):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Sun 31 Oct 03:05post reply

The latest guess is that Mike Haggar is going to show up. For some titles the pre-release rumors are as much fun as the game itself.





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"Re(2):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Sun 31 Oct 03:18post reply

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For some titles the pre-release rumors are as much fun as the game itself.


Agreed! Quite often the final product ends up feeling like a let down in a lot of ways, although... first Arthur, now (possibly) Haggar... wow, if he makes it in I will be pretty happy. Who's next, Geki? Actually, how many more characters does that leave to be revealed? Didn't they suggest that there would be 30 or so?

Like I've said before, just like with Tatsunoko vs Capcom, I've been pleasantly surprised by the character choices here.





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"Re(3):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Sun 31 Oct 22:51post reply

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Agreed! Quite often the final product ends up feeling like a let down in a lot of ways, although... first Arthur, now (possibly) Haggar... wow, if he makes it in I will be pretty happy. Who's next, Geki? Actually, how many more characters does that leave to be revealed? Didn't they suggest that there would be 30 or so?



An article at Eventhubs said that some Capcom representatives mentioned that at least two new characters will be announced per month until the game release date (which is supposed to be March 2011). That means around 10 new characters (8 if there isn't any announcement in March) or more.

I'm surprised Hiryu hasn't been announced yet, considering how popular he was in the previous MVC games. I'd like to see him back on Capcom's side; on Marvel's, I hope they bring Psylocke back, although her chances may be very small after X-23's inclusion...





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"Re(2):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Mon 1 Nov 03:20post reply

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The latest guess is that Mike Haggar is going to show up. For some titles the pre-release rumors are as much fun as the game itself.



Wow, glad to see some support for the rumor. I hope they got creative with his move list and included some Slam Masters and Final Fight 3 stuff to make him play differently from Zangief.





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"Re(3):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 16 Nov 04:29post reply

Zero and She-Hulk are in the roster. Although She-Hulk has the most woefully awful name in comic books her inclusion means we will be treated to plenty of hysterical screen shots.





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"Re(4):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 16 Nov 08:40post reply

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Zero and She-Hulk are in the roster. Although She-Hulk has the most woefully awful name in comic books her inclusion means we will be treated to plenty of hysterical screen shots.




She-Hulk looks like an insane combination of R. Mika, El Fuerte and Ramon. AND she can kill you with a car. The game just got that more interesting. I wonder if the She-Hulk Vs Iron Man opening animation will reference the fact they slept together....

Zero...well, he looks nice...






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"Re(5):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 16 Nov 12:34post reply

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I wonder if the She-Hulk Vs Iron Man opening animation will reference the fact they slept together....



I'm going to guess that Tony needed to keep the Iron Man suit on for protection.





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"Re(6):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 16 Nov 15:35post reply

Ho-hum. Not dissapointed per se but not exactly excited by either character. Tweaked TVC Zero is okay. X2 Theme is nice, but would prefer his X1 theme. As far as alts go, we're probably going to get MMZ Zero and Fantastic Four She-Hulk to sidestep that whole FF thing with Super Skrull (if anyone doesn't remember, she replaced the Thing for a while in the 80s - I believe right after Secret War?).





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"Re(7):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 16 Nov 16:28post reply

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Ho-hum. Not dissapointed per se but not exactly excited by either character. Tweaked TVC Zero is okay. X2 Theme is nice, but would prefer his X1 theme. As far as alts go, we're probably going to get MMZ Zero and Fantastic Four She-Hulk to sidestep that whole FF thing with Super Skrull (if anyone doesn't remember, she replaced the Thing for a while in the 80s - I believe right after Secret War?).



Zero has a Megaman X alt color already, too. I suppose if anyone was still looking for deconfirmation evidence for X this would be it. (Which might bump classic MM's chances even higher)

Shulk's face looks... well odd, for some reason. But her moves looks nice enough.






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"Re(7):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 16 Nov 16:33:post reply

And now we have Jill and Shuma-Gorath confirmed as DLC characters.

Shuma looks pretty much the same, Jill is using her RE5 blonde-haired infected w/ chesthugger and kungfu grip persona. Not my favorite version though, hopefully the old STARS uniform is an alt.





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"Re(8):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 16 Nov 19:26post reply

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Shulk's face looks... well odd, for some reason. But her moves looks nice enough.



They sure seem to keep in in projectile-vulnerable states for a long time - things do not bode well for her in this game, unless Haggar does get confirmed, so she does have a chance against someone...





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"Re(5):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 16 Nov 22:31:post reply

I like to see that Capcom is making She-Hulk different from Hulk by emphasizing her funny side! The poses, the onomatopoeias in her attacks... I'd still pick other Marvel women over her, though: Storm, Psylocke, Invisible Woman, Ms. Marvel, Spider-Woman... But I'll forgive that if She-Hulk's level 3 Super involves her putting on her tailleur and suing the opponent, Phoenix Wright-style.

Zero looks okay, I guess. And Jill looks hot (but when did she dye her hair blond?). But Shuma-Gorath as DLC?? Does anyone at Capcom know that he hasn't been relevant to the Marvel universe for over a decade?





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"Re(6):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 16 Nov 22:53post reply

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And Jill looks hot (but when did she dye her hair blond?).



She got brainwashed and got put into a plugsuit and blonde hair in RE5, I think.






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"Re(7):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 16 Nov 23:21:post reply

I'm liking She-Hulk's style, some of the animations could use a bit of cleaning up though.

I am disappointed, but not surprised by DLC announced before the game is released. It sucks to live in an age where the game isn't "complete" when you buy it at the store. But I guess capcom would have found a way to milk this whether it be DLC or Super/Turbo editions, but on the other hand they were good about making just sequels to the Vs. series as opposed to updates.

So I see that UDON has finally gotten themselves attached to this game with that nice Alvin Lee cover.

Apparently a poster on Neogaf has been posting this roster for the last month or so and mentions the DLC characters.


Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Marvel
Galactus (Boss)
Taskmaster (unlock)
Shuma-Gorath (DLC)
She-Hulk
Deadpool
Captain America
X-23
Magneto
Modok
Hulk
Spider-Man
Dr. Doom
Sentinel
Storm
Phoenix/Dark Phoenix
Super Skrull
Dormammu
Wolverine
Iron Man

Capcom
Amaterasu
Ryu
Rad Spencer
Chun Li
C. Viper
Hsien-ko
Jill (DLC)
Chris
Wesker
Dante
Trish
Arthur
Felicia
Morrigan
Viewtiful Joe
Tron Bonne
Mike Haggar
Akuma (unlock)
Zero

Edgeworth and Phoenix Wright make cameos in She-Hulk's ending. I think I might be missing a character, but it's 38 for the roster.


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"Re(8):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Wed 17 Nov 01:45post reply

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Apparently a poster on Neogaf has been posting this roster for the last month or so and mentions the DLC characters.



Pity that

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Psylocke

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isn't in that list...

But I liked some of the choices, if they are true...

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Phoenix/Dark Phoenix would be Jean Grey, right? Or Rachel Summers? Or Hope Summers II, the recent mutant messiah?

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"Re(9):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Wed 17 Nov 02:35post reply

A fun note:

The guy who posted the listed is a friend of mine from back when I was doing my undergrad.





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"Re(8):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Wed 17 Nov 02:42post reply

My brain exploded on Shuma Gorath. OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG.

As for the DLC, of course, it's a pity.... but for the particular MvC3 case, I really think that the current roaster (even before Shulk and Zero were unveiled) would have been enough for a full, enjoyable game, with plenty of intriguing characters and playstyles (I mean, as varied as the Versus Capcon system can allow characters to be). After all, the game already has more character than TvC, who got released twice in Japan.
If on top of that, you can pay to get even MORE characters, well, fine, isn't it? You pay if you want them, and you don't if you don't (though I cannot imagine why anyone would NOT want Shuma<3). It would be the same for Yun/Yand and whoever else added as DLC to SSF4: the game without them is already huge, and for the hungry players who want extra-topping, there is some available.
In the old days, you would have had to buy MvC3Extra for 30 bucks to have them. I call the DLC an improvement, in that aspect.

The real problem would be if half of the game was a DLC. Imagine if SF2 was being remade, but the lower half of the selection screen was DLC. THAT would be unacceptable.

Another problem would be the Civilization 5 scenario : the game is blatantly unfinished, full of bugs, HUGE unbalance issues, crashes randomly anytime you do any kind of action(including when you just launch the game and try to configurate a map to play on). And on top of that, one of the civilization has to be bought separately 5$. There are already 18(now19) free civilizations in the game, so it's not a roster problem, but more of a "try to finish your alpha-version game before milking it for more money, please" situation.

TL;DR: OMG SHUMA SHUMA OMG OMG SHUMA SHUMA OMG.
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"Re(9):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Wed 17 Nov 04:14post reply

If I had the energy I'm certain I could write up some rant about DLC but the methods for unlocking the cast in MvC2 were so absurd that this seems like a natural progression for the series.
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My brain exploded on Shuma Gorath. OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG.

This is a very good point. Rendering a shapless mass of appendages into a 3D model will be a sight to see. Outside of Octodad how often do you get to play cephalopods? Now I'm hoping that Capcom manages to include that talking plant from Battle Circuit as a playable character.





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"Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Wed 17 Nov 06:07post reply

Get ready for more DLC shenanigans. If game publishers can give you DLC for free when you pre-order the game or buy the game the new, then they can charge you for the DLC when you buy the game used. Its how game publishers get around the whole "used game" problem.

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"Re(8):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Wed 17 Nov 10:53post reply

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Apparently a poster on Neogaf has been posting this roster for the last month or so and mentions the DLC characters.




I really hope that list isn't accurate. I really do. This game is supposed to be different than previous Marvel vs. games, and I see two returning characters on that list that just screams "Same ol' shit" from MvC2.






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"Re(9):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Wed 17 Nov 23:12post reply

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Apparently a poster on Neogaf has been posting this roster for the last month or so and mentions the DLC characters.



I really hope that list isn't accurate. I really do. This game is supposed to be different than previous Marvel vs. games, and I see two returning characters on that list that just screams "Same ol' shit" from MvC2.



Don't write it off so fast!

SF4 was the first game in ages where claw vega WASN'T awesome! There's no telling how any of the returning characters will stack up in this new game!





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"Re(9):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Wed 17 Nov 23:21post reply

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I really hope that list isn't accurate. I really do. This game is supposed to be different than previous Marvel vs. games, and I see two returning characters on that list that just screams "Same ol' shit" from MvC2.

Speaking of which, which person in this BBS was responsible for the quote, "That isn't news. Capcom has been fighting evolution for years"? I want to personally thank this person for a quote I use quite often





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"Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Thu 18 Nov 00:17post reply

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SF4 was the first game in ages where claw vega WASN'T awesome! There's no telling how any of the returning characters will stack up in this new game!

Actually, I expected all the top characters of MvC2 to make the cut (since it's the tier-whore game per excellence), but if that list (and several others) have Magneto, Storm and Sentinel, Cable is MIA in almost all of the ones I've seen...
Has he dropped in the tiers since the last time I bothered to check?
I don't see how it could be possible, but then, Anakaris was considered middle-to-strong when I checked, so I'm determined to not be surprised by anything.

quote:
Speaking of which, which person in this BBS was responsible for the quote, "That isn't news. Capcom has been fighting evolution for years"? I want to personally thank this person for a quote I use quite often

I would say... either Ishmael, or Juan, or me...?





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"Re(2):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Thu 18 Nov 02:00post reply

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...Cable is MIA in almost all of the ones I've seen...
Has he dropped in the tiers since the last time I bothered to check?



Maybe he's not around because it's not the 90s anymore? LOL
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"Re(7):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Thu 18 Nov 02:50post reply

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And Jill looks hot (but when did she dye her hair blond?).


She got brainwashed and got put into a plugsuit and blonde hair in RE5, I think.



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"Re(2):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Thu 18 Nov 03:00post reply

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Actually, I expected all the top characters of MvC2 to make the cut (since it's the tier-whore game per excellence), but if that list (and several others) have Magneto, Storm and Sentinel, Cable is MIA in almost all of the ones I've seen...
Has he dropped in the tiers since the last time I bothered to check?


Cable is still the 4th member of the big 4, but considering how many projectile-heavy zoning characters there are already, maybe they decided to leave him out for now.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Thu 18 Nov 03:35post reply

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Cable is still the 4th member of the big 4, but considering how many projectile-heavy zoning characters there are already, maybe they decided to leave him out for now.



I would not be surprised if Cable became a DLC character three to six months after the game was released.

I agree with what Spoon said in regards to Cable's exclusion from the game from a gameplay standpoint. I also see this game having a roster composed of Marvel's most classic, iconic and popular characters plus a few offbeat weirdos (Modok, Dormmamu, Shuma-Gorath, She-Hulk). Cable doesn't fit either of those categories and the height of his popularity is long gone (plus he's dead in the comic book universe). X-23 and Deadpool have replaced him as the "cool" and "new" characters of choice. In fact, X-23 replaced Marrow and Deadpool replaced Cable in that regard.

It still amazes me that such a garbage character like Marrow got so much exposure and development through MvC2.



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"Re(4):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Thu 18 Nov 15:16post reply

I wouldn't mind seeing Cable return, if only to reenact the Cable And Deadpool comics. I was very sad to see that series go, and I've never enjoyed either character more than how they were portrayed therein. Hell, just give us Bob, Agent of Hydra too and then we can stop announcing charas and call it a day.

Also, don't know why I didn't think of this before .. anyone else think we'll get an Agent X alt for Deadpool?





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"Re(5):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Thu 18 Nov 18:07post reply

That would be awesome. I had not thought of that until you typed it.

Capcom put this in...the game!

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"Re(6):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 30 Nov 04:37post reply

Not actually news, but I found this interesting:

http://shoryuken.com/content/japan-s-top-55-most-requests-marvel-vs-capcom-3-dlc-characters-2594/

Namely because:

- it mentions Talbain/Gallon, whom I'm used to see being mentioned as unpopular over there

- also mentions Tabasa at a fairly high spot -I've been kinda hoping she makes it, even if it's in Doom's ending or something (makes sense in my head: he's a tech guy who dabbles in the supernatural, she's a sorceror sorcerologist that dabbles in technology, and her ending in Warzard was creepy enough to hint at her maybe becoming a villain in the sequel that never was).

- Ingrid... that one's so divisive I'm wondering if it was a joke vote...





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"Re(7):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 30 Nov 05:10post reply

quote:
Not actually news, but I found this interesting:

http://shoryuken.com/content/japan-s-top-55-most-requests-marvel-vs-capcom-3-dlc-characters-2594/



Of course it is not news if Keits posts it.





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"Re(7):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 30 Nov 05:34:post reply

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Not actually news, but I found this interesting:

http://shoryuken.com/content/japan-s-top-55-most-requests-marvel-vs-capcom-3-dlc-characters-2594/


The thing I find interesting is that some characters that definitely should be, if not in a game, at least in a popularity contest, are nowhere to be seen (namely popular characters from MvC2 and TvC).
Why would Strider and Rockman(original) be out?





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"Re(8):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Tue 30 Nov 21:06post reply

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The thing I find interesting is that some characters that definitely should be, if not in a game, at least in a popularity contest, are nowhere to be seen (namely popular characters from MvC2 and TvC).
Why would Strider and Rockman(original) be out?



That is very interesting, and I wonder what would have happened if a Marvel character poll was held. If the most popular requested characters were from MvC2 (especially the cheap ones, you know who I'm talking about), it would tell me that what people really want is a rehash of MvC2. And I really hope that doesn't happen. This is supposed to be a new MvC experience--and if it has the same characters from the last generation, especially those characters, then what's the point?






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"Re(8):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Wed 1 Dec 02:29:post reply

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The thing I find interesting is that some characters that definitely should be, if not in a game, at least in a popularity contest, are nowhere to be seen (namely popular characters from MvC2 and TvC).
Why would Strider and Rockman(original) be out?


That is pretty strange, but maybe they were groomed from the data because they'll be in the game and just haven't been announced? Nah, that does not make much sense either. Or maybe everyone who voted expected they would be in anyway?

I'm glad to hear that the TvC team (or at least some of it) has been involved with this project. It's by far my favorite 3D rendered fighting game of the past decade or so, so that bodes well for MvC3.

As for the Marvel side, I am so far out of the loop with Marvel comics that I can't even begin to discuss it. My only hope is that whoever they add is fun to play as. Here is my one hope: Dr. Strange, since they already have Dormammu. Hopefully they haven't killed him off or something!

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"Re(9):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Wed 1 Dec 19:30post reply

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Here is my one hope: Dr. Strange, since they already have Dormammu. Hopefully they haven't killed him off or something!



Unfortunately he's no longer Sorcerer Supreme, but just a normal dude (as normal as any other magic practitioner, anyway). The new SS was Brother Voodoo, I think, until he got vaporized in this month's New Avengers (or was it Secret Avengeres? They have 4 !@#$! titles out now and I can never keep them straight. I don't know why either - the only one that's even remotely interesting is the one with Ultron VS Kang and cameos by The Maestro. And for those exact reasons).

In fact, not to derail the thread or anything, but the only things Marvel's done to really keep me excited in the past decade were Exiles and X-Factor (and MAYBE the first 3/4 of Civil War). I try really hard not to give in to the fanboy wishlist disease, but if I had to beg for a character to be included it'd be anyone from those two series (I could see Capcom doing fun things with Morph, Mimic, Madrox, Longshot or Layla Miller).





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"Re(10):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Wed 1 Dec 22:24post reply

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Unfortunately he's no longer Sorcerer Supreme, but just a normal dude (as normal as any other magic practitioner, anyway). The new SS was Brother Voodoo, I think, until he got vaporized in this month's New Avengers (or was it Secret Avengeres? They have 4 !@#$! titles out now and I can never keep them straight. I don't know why either - the only one that's even remotely interesting is the one with Ultron VS Kang and cameos by The Maestro. And for those exact reasons).



It's New Avengers, the Avengers family title. Secret Avengers is the black-ops one, and Avengers (without adjectives) is the important one, it's the book with Ultron VS Kang that you mentioned.

And I agree, Morph would fit perfectly in Marvel vs Capcom 3! Too bad his chances are quite low since the Exiles series was cancelled...





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"Re(9):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Thu 2 Dec 00:22post reply

That would be awesome. I had not thought of that until you typed it.

Iron Fist fighting style would fit into the MvC3; however, which Iron Fist are we talking about? The current one? Or the previous incarnations? In fact, they should just put the previous incarnations as alternate costumes...

Capcom put this in...the game!

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"Re(10):Re(10):Marvel Versus Capcom 3 Stuff" , posted Thu 2 Dec 02:02post reply

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Iron Fist fighting style would fit into the MvC3; however, which Iron Fist are we talking about? The current one? Or the previous incarnations? In fact, they should just put the previous incarnations as alternate costumes...


That shows how out of the loop I am. There is another Iron Fist? I was thinking of the Danny Rand, 1970's one, as in 'Power Man and'.

Speaking of which, Luke Cage would be a good fit as well, but only if his alt costume lets him have that awesome metal headband from back in the day.





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"Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Fri 10 Dec 02:51post reply

Storm retains her moves, loses clothing, Viper retains her focus attack and EX-able specials. And gains D-cups.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-12-09-storm-and-c-viper-confirmed-for-mvc3






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"Re(1):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Fri 10 Dec 03:07post reply

quote:
Storm retains her moves, loses clothing, Viper retains her focus attack and EX-able specials. And gains D-cups.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-12-09-storm-and-c-viper-confirmed-for-mvc3



Ugh, Viper... oh well, I can't like ALL the characters! Funny though, I was thinking the Marvel Viper when I saw the subject!

Storm has her old 70's/80's outfit! Pretty sweet.





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"Re(2):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Fri 10 Dec 03:41post reply

Sure Viper is not among my favourites.
But speaking about marketing it's a stupid choice. I mean, SFIV has its female lead character (Juri) way more powerful and interesting than Viper, that has a lame design, a stupid moveset and the worst attitude to be placed in a VS game (a mother!? come on...)





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"Re(2):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Fri 10 Dec 03:42post reply

Gee, I wonder which of those we'll be seeing over and over again in tournament footage.

Oh well, nice choice of classic outfit, at least.





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"Re(3):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Fri 10 Dec 05:01post reply

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Sure Viper is not among my favourites.
But speaking about marketing it's a stupid choice. I mean, SFIV has its female lead character (Juri) way more powerful and interesting than Viper, that has a lame design, a stupid moveset and the worst attitude to be placed in a VS game (a mother!? come on...)

Can't you tell that Capcom are trying to be "ground-breaking" and not include only popular characters like Ryu, Ken, and Akuma, possibly Cyber Akuma, Evil Ryu, Violent Ken, Dangerous Dan, Sadistic Sean, and Sensual Sakura? Why not give them credit where it is due? I mean, Capcom is not trying to fight evolution here, contrary to what some may believe.





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"Re(4):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Fri 10 Dec 05:45post reply

quote:
Sure Viper is not among my favourites.
But speaking about marketing it's a stupid choice. I mean, SFIV has its female lead character (Juri) way more powerful and interesting than Viper, that has a lame design, a stupid moveset and the worst attitude to be placed in a VS game (a mother!? come on...)
Can't you tell that Capcom are trying to be "ground-breaking" and not include only popular characters like Ryu, Ken, and Akuma, possibly Cyber Akuma, Evil Ryu, Violent Ken, Dangerous Dan, Sadistic Sean, and Sensual Sakura? Why not give them credit where it is due? I mean, Capcom is not trying to fight evolution here, contrary to what some may believe.



You forgot Gorgeous Gouken!

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"Re(4):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Fri 10 Dec 05:47post reply

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I mean, SFIV has its female lead character (Juri) way more powerful and interesting than Viper, that has a lame design, a stupid moveset and an enormous rack.


Fixed.

You're right though, Juri would have been perfect. Maybe she'll still be in it!
quote:

Can't you tell that Capcom are trying to be "ground-breaking" and not include only popular characters like Ryu, Ken, and Akuma, possibly Cyber Akuma, Evil Ryu, Violent Ken, Dangerous Dan, Sadistic Sean, and Sensual Sakura? Why not give them credit where it is due?


Ha, Violent Ken would be okay with me-- I always did love his crazy perm from Nona's SvC illustrations. Too bad it didn't make it into his sprite.

Seriously, I really can't fault Capcom for trying hard with the roster. One of my biggest issues with the whole VS era of 2D games was that they constantly recycled a handful of characters (even though yes, they did always include unique ones as well).

Overall I'm very happy with how this is shaping up-- I just had to poke fun at how they had included the one who is by far my least favorite character from the whole Street Fighter series.





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"Re(5):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Fri 10 Dec 06:33post reply

Ah, C.Viper. Out of all the characters introduced in SF4 she is certainly one of them. For me, Viper isn't a totally broken mess like Hinako or the unredeemable horror that Platnium is shaping up to be. Instead, Viper is a germ of a good idea that is never going to come together to form a character that is as successful as the designers had hoped for. C.Viper is the R.Mika of SF4.

At least C.Viper's Captain Commando play style will shift over well to the vs games.

I don't really have any thoughts one way or another concerning Storm. However, I am certain those who take the vs game much, much more seriously than I have some opinions on her return. I'll leave that to them.





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"Re(6):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Fri 10 Dec 07:36post reply

Ugh.... I missed that Viper was a mother. When did THAT happen? I thought she was a secret agent of some sort who was so secret they didn't need to give her any kind of back story.
quote:
For me, Viper isn't a totally broken mess like Hinako or the unredeemable horror that Platnium is shaping up to be.

I'm surprised. What seems to be the problem with Platinum (keeping in mind I never came close to any BB game or player)?

As for the cast... the game has Shuma Gorath. Any character added on top of him is like icing on the sweet, sweet tentacles.





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"Re(6):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Fri 10 Dec 07:45post reply

Viper, lol. Even in SF4 she felt like a MvC reject, and now she can't even be called that.

Storm's outfit isn't really classic, Marvel ditched those liquid metal pajamas years ago and that's what she looks like now. Wouldn't be surprised if they gave her the "classic" outfit as an alt, though, since it's not too far removed.





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"Re(3):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Fri 10 Dec 11:54post reply

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Gee, I wonder which of those we'll be seeing over and over again in tournament footage.

Oh well, nice choice of classic outfit, at least.



I agree. Combined with Magneto, Capcom has officially brought back one of the worst things from MvC2. Unless they do major tweaks to the characters, I declare FAIL.

Viper, on the other hand, actually looks fun to play. It's like she's finally turning into the Terry Bogard/Roy Bromwell hybrid she always should have been.






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"Re(4):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Fri 10 Dec 12:24post reply

Storm's outfit is now her current, I think.

And wow, so much Viper hate dislike.






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"Re(7):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sat 11 Dec 00:11post reply

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Ugh.... I missed that Viper was a mother. When did THAT happen? I thought she was a secret agent of some sort who was so secret they didn't need to give her any kind of back story.



Her ending of SF4 shows that if I remember correctly.

Hold on....

nah SSF4

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"Re(8):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sat 11 Dec 00:40post reply

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFrmc8C3GjE


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"Re(5):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sat 11 Dec 00:55post reply

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quote:
viper


In terms of how she plays, Viper is definitely an interesting addition! She has a pretend-FRC that allows for all kinds of interesting tricks, she has projectile that can let her get the jump on people without being a traditional zoning tool, she has some interesting air movements, and she was bizarre enough that she fluctuated up and down the rankings in SF4 as no other character really did. But truthfully, there really is nobody else in SF4 that plays like her... heck, there's nobody in the SF2/SF3/SFA series that plays like her. What we may think of her aesthetics is another story.

And doesn't Viper reference her child in some of her win/entry quotes?

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Hinako is a mess


Never expected anybody at mmcafe to say this. I thought she was one of the oddballs that this place loves! Then again, I was also surprised that there are people here that don't like R.Mika.

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Let's not cast our judgement too early. For all we know, by the time we get to play the game, she'll have been pre-emptively over-nerfed.





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"Re(8):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sat 11 Dec 01:43post reply

quote:
Ugh.... I missed that Viper was a mother. When did THAT happen? I thought she was a secret agent of some sort who was so secret they didn't need to give her any kind of back story.


Her ending of SF4 shows that if I remember correctly.

Hold on....

nah SSF4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFrmc8C3GjE



She also calls her daughter in one of her win quotes. I suppose the lack of mention of her husband is the clue we have (besides the official statements) that she's a single mom.

Anyway, it's interesting how she managed to keep her EX moves and focus attack from SF4. AND she gained an eight way air-dash. Kinda cool.






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"Re(6):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sat 11 Dec 04:06post reply

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Never expected anybody at mmcafe to say this. I thought she was one of the oddballs that this place loves! Then again, I was also surprised that there are people here that don't like R.Mika.


I think the problem is that I like girls and I like grapplers. So when a female character breaks out of the fast gameplay style and goes into tank mode I expect something amazing. Sadly, except for the characters named Ryoko I have always been disappointed.

As an aside, I thought about it and realized the main thing that makes me lukewarm to C.Viper is that I can't play her for crap.

quote:
I'm surprised. What seems to be the problem with Platinum (keeping in mind I never came close to any BB game or player)?

I think it was when I saw Platinum -an obnoxious collection of magical girl tropes- shooting kitty cat missles at Detective Boy Conan. The whole thing looked like some sort of terrible doujin fighter that had landed a decent budget. It was at that point that I realized that I had no idea what path BB was heading down and I had no interest in finding out.

I hate posting nothing but pointless naysaying so I will say that the reveal that Viper has a pre-fight line with MODOK makes me very happy. All roads should lead to MODOK.





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"Re(9):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sat 11 Dec 04:20post reply

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFrmc8C3GjE

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT CAR!?
Someone, please, send a copy of GT5 to Ono right now.
I mean. COME ON.



I guess its some kind of VW Beetle...Now pay attention at the cars displayed on the USA Stage in SFIV and throw up.





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"Re(3):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sat 11 Dec 12:13post reply

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Sure Viper is not among my favourites.
But speaking about marketing it's a stupid choice. I mean, SFIV has its female lead character (Juri) way more powerful and interesting than Viper, that has a lame design, a stupid moveset and the worst attitude to be placed in a VS game (a mother!? come on...)



That's certainly a wrong opinion you have there! Well that's not fair of me to say, you're entitled to your opinion, but if you can't respect the cobra vs mongoose matchup of Viper vs Ryu in high-level play, you're not qualified to speak on power levels.

As for atiitude and playstyle, Viper vastly better than Juri for versus, anyway. Does Mahvel really need a flat-chested, oversexed, dive-kicking pixie spamming pinwheels and talking like goddamn Angelica from Rugrats (not a bad cartoon though, and did you know Peter CHung was involved?)? I rest my invincible case.

I'm surprised at the Viper dislike here in the cafe as well. Et tu Ishmael? Anyway a lot of people have a hard time using her effectively in SF4... but IMO she will be much easier to use in the versus series in the absence of highly technical gameplay that revolves around links and cancels. Why not give her a shot?





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"Re(4):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sat 11 Dec 18:55post reply

quote:
Sure Viper is not among my favourites.
But speaking about marketing it's a stupid choice. I mean, SFIV has its female lead character (Juri) way more powerful and interesting than Viper, that has a lame design, a stupid moveset and the worst attitude to be placed in a VS game (a mother!? come on...)


That's certainly a wrong opinion you have there! Well that's not fair of me to say, you're entitled to your opinion, but if you can't respect the cobra vs mongoose matchup of Viper vs Ryu in high-level play, you're not qualified to speak on power levels.

As for atiitude and playstyle, Viper vastly better than Juri for versus, anyway. Does Mahvel really need a flat-chested, oversexed, dive-kicking pixie spamming pinwheels and talking like goddamn Angelica from Rugrats (not a bad cartoon though, and did you know Peter CHung was involved?)? I rest my invincible case.

I'm surprised at the Viper dislike here in the cafe as well. Et tu Ishmael? Anyway a lot of people have a hard time using her effectively in SF4... but IMO she will be much easier to use in the versus series in the absence of highly technical gameplay that revolves around links and cancels. Why not give her a shot?




Mmmhhh, your last sentence is THE point. The effectiveness of Viper not average among SFIV players, but she can do certain pretty stuff at high leves. I admit I was never interested in the char so I didn't check any match video or guide, simply disliked her since the beginning.
But MvsC is about USA characters vs Japanese characters, it's a clash between two worlds and two different art styles, Viper is certainly "anime", but not as Juri, for sure. I don' find her a right choice in a roster plenty of many main favourites and fan requested characters. Sure Viper is more praised than Strider? Than Jedah? I seriously doubt.

Side note about Platinum: in the story mode of Continuum Shift I enjoyed the character and the design, but the whole moe crappyness that came with the actual playable character is keeping me from buy her from PSN....sure, her match with Detective Conan is something....creepy. I hope next installement of BB reserve us more surprises in the serious way and not more moe/doujin like designs.
Come on, we got a Kaka with brain and one of six heroes is a moe majocco child? °_°





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"Re(5):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sat 11 Dec 19:30post reply

It's not like Platinum is a big surprise. We've known about her since the game came out on consoles in Japan, which is half a year ago. Anyone who didn't know this hadn't been paying attention in the first place. We most likely aren't getting any characters beyond her until the next official sequel, which then you can have your Kokonoe with mecha thingamajig, but unfortunately, there's no expecting Torakaka.

Viper and storm really weren't surprises, either, as they were on the supposed leaked/rumor list.





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"Re(3):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sun 12 Dec 01:45post reply

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I mean, SFIV has its female lead character (Juri) way more powerful and interesting than Viper, that has a lame design, a stupid moveset and the worst attitude to be placed in a VS game (a mother!? come on...)



I don't agree with Juri as the leading lady of SSF4. The leading lady of any Street Fighter game is and always will be Chun-Li (When she's in it). After that fact, it only becomes an issue of whether an SSF4 character is added. Personally, I would have wanted Abel or, for vs MODOK hilarity, Rufus.

There's also the issue of SF3 representation in the game. I really hope that Alex has a chance to make it into the game, but I think the Capcom grappler slot will probably just go to Zangief.

Also, wasn't Vanessa in KOF a mom?






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"Re(4):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sun 12 Dec 01:59post reply

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I mean, SFIV has its female lead character (Juri) way more powerful and interesting than Viper, that has a lame design, a stupid moveset and the worst attitude to be placed in a VS game (a mother!? come on...)


I don't agree with Juri as the leading lady of SSF4. The leading lady of any Street Fighter game is and always will be Chun-Li (When she's in it). After that fact, it only becomes an issue of whether an SSF4 character is added. Personally, I would have wanted Abel or, for vs MODOK hilarity, Rufus.

There's also the issue of SF3 representation in the game. I really hope that Alex has a chance to make it into the game, but I think the Capcom grappler slot will probably just go to Zangief.

Also, wasn't Vanessa in KOF a mom?



A wife for sure, but mom I don't remember it.

As for SF3 chars: Ibuki was hinted in a previuos list for TvC, if Zangief will be added sure not Alex for us and we'll got Ibuki instead.





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"Re(4):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sun 12 Dec 02:25post reply

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There's also the issue of SF3 representation in the game. I really hope that Alex has a chance to make it into the game, but I think the Capcom grappler slot will probably just go to Zangief.


As much as I liked Alex in TvC, I'm more than glad that that role is going to be held by Haggar. Enough Street Fighters already, they'll have SSF4 and Tekken vs to show up again. And who knows, maybe Alex will fail to show up there as well?

I'm surprised by the hate Storm is getting sometimes. Were people angry at Chunli for showing up, because she was so strong in 3rd strike she would probably break the balance? No matter if this is a totally different game, different engine, different rules, and 10 years after the game (out of the 3 Capcom she's been in) where Storm was over dominant? Some people really can't let things go.
Plus, she looks good, which is not something you can say of Magneto from the current videos.
And besides, everybody knows M.O.D.O.K. will be the real balance breaker this time.

It would only make sense that the 4 main characters of MvC2, that have been played non-stop for 10 years by all the people who supported the game and made this sequel possible, would at least be considered to come back.
Cable's popularity is, if I understood correctly, totally gone, so he would be the weakest link out of the 4. But the others? You need to get the MAHVEL BABY! generation to abandon their game and get the new one. These people have played the same game for 10 years, I'm pretty sure they could go on for 10 more years.





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"Re(5):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sun 12 Dec 03:18post reply

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I'm surprised by the hate Storm is getting sometimes. Were people angry at Chunli for showing up, because she was so strong in 3rd strike she would probably break the balance? No matter if this is a totally different game, different engine, different rules, and 10 years after the game (out of the 3 Capcom she's been in) where Storm was over dominant? Some people really can't let things go.



I remember people whining when it was revealed that MvC2 would have two Wolverines. They actually assumed that everyone would end up using Wolverine/Wolverine/Strider because of how they were in MvC1. It was hilarious.





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"Re(5):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sun 12 Dec 06:52post reply

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As much as I liked Alex in TvC, I'm more than glad that that role is going to be held by Haggar. Enough Street Fighters already, they'll have SSF4 and Tekken vs to show up again. And who knows, maybe Alex will fail to show up there as well?



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I don't think bringing back Storm or Magneto would do this. MvC is a solid franchise, and I think even without those characters, enthusiasts would play MvC3 just because it's Marvel vs Capcom.

As for Storm: my opinion has changed. From what I've read, her capabilities have changed to prevent MvC2 style gameplay. And even if they hadn't made those changes, I figure Capcom wouldn't let MvC3 become a rehash of 2.






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"Re(5):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Sun 12 Dec 07:59post reply

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Storm's outfit is now her current, I think.



It is. Except she's wearing a jewel with a red gem in her cleavage, instead of the "X" badge all X-Men have in their uniforms (...well, except Psylocke).

Storm looks cool, still powerful but apparently not unbeatable. As for C.Viper, from the first time Capcom showed her gameplay in SFIV, I thought she would fit perfectly with the MvC series, with the hyper jumps and flashy moves. I like these additions to the roster.

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"Re(5):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Mon 13 Dec 19:17post reply

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Also, wasn't Vanessa in KOF a mom?


A wife for sure, but mom I don't remember it.



Actually a widow, iirc.





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"Re(6):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Wed 15 Dec 03:46post reply

Preorder MvC3 and get a shirt with Shuma Gorath and Servbots on it. No, I'm not making that description up.





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"Re(7):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Wed 15 Dec 04:07post reply

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Preorder MvC3 and get a shirt with Shuma Gorath and Servbots on it. No, I'm not making that description up.



Oho, Iggy will love it based on Shuma's presence, I would imagine.

That is a nice-looking shirt. Nicer looking than I expected when I clicked the link.





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"Re(8):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Wed 15 Dec 07:07post reply

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Oho, Iggy will love it based on Shuma's presence, I would imagine.

IGGY WILL HATE IT BECAUSE IT'S ONLY OR THE US.
Fortunately, Iggy has a strong mind-control device that allows him to erase his memory of anything related to that shirt so that he can go to sleep without weeping like a little girl who didn't get a pony for her birthday.





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"Re(9):Storm and Viper reveals" , posted Wed 15 Dec 08:14post reply

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Oho, Iggy will love it based on Shuma's presence, I would imagine.
IGGY WILL HATE IT BECAUSE IT'S ONLY OR THE US.
Fortunately, Iggy has a strong mind-control device that allows him to erase his memory of anything related to that shirt so that he can go to sleep without weeping like a little girl who didn't get a pony for her birthday.



I'm sure someone can help Iggy get the shirt. The internets are powerful.

Regardless, that is a very bizarre shirt. I like it because its weird. I'm amazed it got made although Capcom does have a history of making wacky promo materials. Eh.





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"final roster leaks" , posted Thu 16 Dec 18:37post reply

Someone fills our curiosity about the remaining characters. Via his twitter account (details on srk and major fighters resources) the guy claims to leak informations about them and other info regarding the game.
So we have Jean/Phoenix (Dark mode activates is she dies at LV5 super), Taskmaster and Sentinel for Marvel and Haggar, LeiLei and Gouki for Capcom.
More content (costumes for certain chars and new faces) will be announced as DLC during 2011. After Shuma and Jill there will be new characters but not so many (I bet 10 total: 5 per side).

The roster seems overall promising, altough they keep ignoring Street Fighter 3!





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"Re(1):final roster leaks" , posted Thu 16 Dec 23:55post reply

quote:
Someone fills our curiosity about the remaining characters. Via his twitter account (details on srk and major fighters resources) the guy claims to leak informations about them and other info regarding the game.
So we have Jean/Phoenix (Dark mode activates is she dies at LV5 super), Taskmaster and Sentinel for Marvel and Haggar, LeiLei and Gouki for Capcom.
More content (costumes for certain chars and new faces) will be announced as DLC during 2011. After Shuma and Jill there will be new characters but not so many (I bet 10 total: 5 per side).

The roster seems overall promising, altough they keep ignoring Street Fighter 3!



Well, Alex has been in both versions of Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, so it's not as if SFIII was completely ignored from crossovers.

But I'm quite surprised with these choices, if they're true. Lei-Lei (who I love, BTW) over MegaMan (whichever version Capcom might have used)?? Taskmaster over Cyclops (I dislike Cyke, but let's face it: he's the actual top dog in X-Men and one of the best known Marvel heroes)?? Sentinel nowadays is irrelevant, although I can understand that many players would want their number 1 god-tiered character back again.

And didn't Niitsuma say that the game still had TEN characters to be announced some weeks before the reveal of Storm and C.Viper? That means this leak list should still have one more character from each side.





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"Re(2):final roster leaks" , posted Fri 17 Dec 01:32post reply

Lei Lei?? Really???
Damn it, now I have to pay attention to this game.





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"Re(1):final roster leaks" , posted Fri 17 Dec 02:55post reply

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The roster seems overall promising, altough they keep ignoring Street Fighter 3!


How can you say that about Capcom when they put out all the stops to bring you Yun and Yang for SSF4AE? That should be more than enough SF3 for anybody!





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"Re(1):final roster leaks" , posted Fri 17 Dec 03:01post reply

quote:
Someone fills our curiosity about the remaining characters. Via his twitter account (details on srk and major fighters resources) the guy claims to leak informations about them and other info regarding the game.
So we have Jean/Phoenix (Dark mode activates is she dies at LV5 super), Taskmaster and Sentinel for Marvel and Haggar, LeiLei and Gouki for Capcom.
More content (costumes for certain chars and new faces) will be announced as DLC during 2011. After Shuma and Jill there will be new characters but not so many (I bet 10 total: 5 per side).

The roster seems overall promising, altough they keep ignoring Street Fighter 3!



While Phoenix would be an awesome final boss on the Marvel side, I'm not getting my hopes up too much about this list (although... HAGGAR! Would he have his FF3 ponytail?) since we've had several of these lists floated lately. Argh, but Gouki? Capcom seems to always feel like Gouki is a great boss counter point for someone on the other side of these VS games, so I wouldn't be shocked if he was included. Guh, why not include Ken and Gouken too?

Wasn't there also supposed to be a new character info release on... December 18?





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"New episode video" , posted Fri 17 Dec 04:28post reply

Or: the reason why you shouldn't send a man in heavy armor and a girl with adamantium in her bones to fight the master of magnetism.

C.Viper's appearance in the end is kinda mysterious... could she be aligned with the villains in MvC3?

Characters who still haven't appeared in any episode videos: Felicia, Thor, Storm, Spencer, She-Hulk, Spider-Man and Zero. Spidey's announcement had a small CG of him crawling in a roof, so maybe Capcom already has an episode 4 video coming soon...





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"Re(1):New episode video" , posted Fri 17 Dec 05:23post reply

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Preorder MvC3 and get a shirt with Shuma Gorath and Servbots on it. No, I'm not making that description up.

That t-shirt is amazing. Too bad it's not going to be out for awhile since it would make a wonderful Christmas present.

quote:
C.Viper's appearance in the end is kinda mysterious... could she be aligned with the villains in MvC3?

I just realized that C.Viper is now the Street Fighter character who is most known for making telephone calls. This title used to belong to Guile after his marathon phone sessions in the animated movie but Viper's constant calls of both a personal and professional nature have left him in the dust. It's a good thing Guile can now fiddle with his sunglasses since the poor guy needs something to supplement his personality with.





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"Re(2):New episode video" , posted Fri 17 Dec 10:39post reply

Fiddling with sunglasses is a character flaw I can get behind. Although the combing the hair bit is pretty awesome too.





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"Re(2):New episode video" , posted Fri 17 Dec 11:09post reply

quote:

C.Viper's appearance in the end is kinda mysterious... could she be aligned with the villains in MvC3?
I just realized that C.Viper is now the Street Fighter character who is most known for making telephone calls.



As what has been said somewhere in the internet, "It's only 100 minutes a month! She's not made out of money!"

Looks like Viper and Mags are neutral here. Speaking of Viper, I never did get if she's a double agent, a triple agent, or a double double babouble agent in SF4.






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"Re(3):New episode video" , posted Fri 17 Dec 16:27post reply

quote:
Looks like Viper and Mags are neutral here. Speaking of Viper, I never did get if she's a double agent, a triple agent, or a double double babouble agent in SF4.


In current comics, I think Magneto's been a good guy again for a while, though there are hints that he may be up to something, or it is simply his arrogance and ego that makes him look evil even when he's trying to be good. Since Marvel has a say in the game, they might not want Magneto portrayed in a straight villain role.

As for Viper, I always thought she was supposed to be a double agent. Though kind of like the Magneto situation, once you've got a double agent who's being portrayed as mysterious, you start wondering if she's up to even more.





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"Re(4):New episode video" , posted Sun 19 Dec 05:04post reply

quote:
Looks like Viper and Mags are neutral here. Speaking of Viper, I never did get if she's a double agent, a triple agent, or a double double babouble agent in SF4.

In current comics, I think Magneto's been a good guy again for a while, though there are hints that he may be up to something, or it is simply his arrogance and ego that makes him look evil even when he's trying to be good. Since Marvel has a say in the game, they might not want Magneto portrayed in a straight villain role.



I expect a Xorn skin/costume!





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"Re(5):New episode video" , posted Mon 20 Dec 05:57post reply

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I expect a Xorn skin/costume!



Quote for justice!





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Featuring Mag-FUCKING-neto. And color schemes of Wolverine, Spidey, Iron Man, and Shulkie.

And, the list of achievements for the game (XBox):
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Passed the Field Test 20
Clear 160 missions in Mission mode.
A New Avenger 40
Clear 320 missions in Mission mode.
Welcome to Avengers Academy! 10
Clear 80 missions in Mission mode.
Leading the Charge 30
Surpass the rank of Fighter.
Combat Specialist 30
In Ranked Match, surpass the "1st" class rank, or fight someone who has.
Comic Collector 50
Unlock all items in the Gallery.
Back at 'Cha! 10
Perform 10 successful Crossover Counters. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Excelsior! 10
Perform 10 Team Aerial Combos. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Be Gone! 10
Perform 10 Snap Backs. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Mega Buster 20
Use 1,000 Hyper Combo Gauge bars. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Ultimate Nullifier 10
Perform 30 successful Advancing Guards. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Playtime Is Over 10
Surpass the rank of Amateur.
Herculean Task 30
Beat Arcade mode on the hardest difficulty.
Saving My Quarters 20
Beat Arcade mode without using any continues.
Waiting for the Trade 50
View all endings in Arcade mode.
Master of Fate 50
Unlock all achievements.
I Buy the Issues 10
View one ending in Arcade mode.
World Warrior 10
Earn 5,000 Player Points (PP).
Brusin' Bruce 20
Land an Incredible Combo. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Charles in Charge 30
Land an Uncanny Combo. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Average Joe 10
Land a Viewtiful Combo. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Champion Edition Hero 30
Earn 30,000 Player Points (PP).
Super Turbo Brawler 50
Earn 100,000 Player Points (PP).
Big Bang Theory 30
Perform 30 Hyper Combo Finishes. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Brave New World 10
Participate in any mode on Xbox LIVE.
Steel Battalion 20
Block 100 times. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Fate of the Satsui no Hadou 20
Decide who is the true master of the fist in a Xbox LIVE match.
Copy This! 20
Put an end to this game of spider and fly in a Xbox LIVE match.
Raccoon City Incident 20
Settle things between former S.T.A.R.S. members in a Xbox LIVE match.
Passport to Beatdown Country 10
Fight in all of the stages.
Need a Healing Factor 10
Win a match without blocking. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
School for the Gifted 15
Get a 5 game win streak in Ranked Match.
A Hero Stands Alone 10
Win a match without calling your partners or switching out. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Full Roster 40
Battle against all characters in a Xbox LIVE match.
Who Will Answer the Call? 10
Participate in an 8 player Lobby on Xbox LIVE.
Duty and Deus Ex Machina 20
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One Step Ahead 30
Land 50 First Attacks in a match. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Avengers Assemble! 15
Make a team composed of the Big 3 and win a match. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Turn the Tables 10
Land a Team Aerial Counter in a match. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Galactic Smasher 40
Perform 30 Crossover Combination Finishes. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Wreak "Havok" 10
Use X-Factor in a match. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Badds to the Bone 15
Make a team of three who have altered their bodies, and win a match. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Whose Side Are You On? 20
Bring about an end to the Civil War in a Xbox LIVE match.
Fate of Two Worlds 20
Make a match on Xbox LIVE between the marquee characters for this game a reality.
Female Flyers 15
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Darkstalkers 15
Make a team composed of those who dwell in the darkness, and win a match. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Weapon X 15
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"Re(1):Costumes! Cheevos!" , posted Thu 23 Dec 01:07post reply

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Featuring Mag-FUCKING-neto. And color schemes of Wolverine, Spidey, Iron Man, and Shulkie.



Strange that they say that Bucky Cap isn't different enough to be an alternate costume.

There probably is as much difference between Bucky and Regular Cap as there is with Tan Wolverine and Regular Wolverine or with She-Hulk and some of her alts.





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"Re(1):Costumes! Cheevos!" , posted Thu 23 Dec 02:15post reply

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And... donuts?


I swear those are Krispy Kremes. Oh lord, the trans fat...





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"Re(2):Costumes! Cheevos!" , posted Thu 23 Dec 07:10post reply

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And... donuts?

I swear those are Krispy Kremes. Oh lord, the trans fat...


Coming up next week: a YouTube clip of Niitsuma's angioplasty!

As for the color scheme it's nice to see they are trying for references where they can instead of simply slapping some random colors on the character. This talk about colors made me realize that the change over from sprite art also means that the sometimes oddly colored sections of the alt colors are now, sadly, a thing of the past. No more green tongues or blue scleras when you start getting into those third or fourth colors.





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"Re(1):Costumes! ACHIEVEMENTS!!!" , posted Fri 24 Dec 23:49post reply

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And, the list of achievements for the game (XBox):



Please don't call them "Cheevos." EVER!!!

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"Re(2):Costumes! ACHIEVEMENTS!!!" , posted Sat 25 Dec 01:44post reply

A new trailer has been posted featuring new color schemes and a few other teases.

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And, the list of achievements for the game (XBox):


Please don't call them "Cheevos." EVER!!!

Also, if Marvel is now owned by Disney, would it be unreasonable to ask if TRON or CLU could be in MvC3?



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"Re(3):Costumes! LEAKS!!!" , posted Tue 28 Dec 12:00post reply

Thanks to a few comic book pages that should not have been posted it looks like Taskmaster and Galactus are going to be showing up in MvC3. It also seems there's going to be a tie-in comic that's going to feature weird perspective shots.

What I like about the pages is that Doom commissioned a bunch of wall tapestries for his castle that feature a great big D. I know Doom has some self-esteem issues but this takes the cake.





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"Re(4):Costumes! LEAKS!!!" , posted Tue 28 Dec 12:41post reply

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What I like about the pages is that Doom commissioned a bunch of wall tapestries for his castle that feature a great big D. I know Doom has some self-esteem issues but this takes the cake.



Worse yet, it appears Dr. Doom ran out of money for chairs for his extended table rudely leaving Magneto standing.

Damn that art is less than stellar. I am surprised they didn't get the UDON crew to do a comic since they don't seem to have any thing lined up other than translations of artbooks, manga and a collectors edition to their SF comic. I know one of them did the special edition cover, but other than that it appears they haven't been too involved.





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"Re(5):Costumes! LEAKS!!!" , posted Thu 30 Dec 11:15post reply

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Damn that art is less than stellar.

Must have hired UDON again after that vomit they churned out for the MvC2 rerelease...
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I am surprised they didn't get the UDON crew to do a comic

Oh. This must be truly awful stuff!





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"Akuma, pehaps" , posted Thu 6 Jan 22:24:post reply

A probably legit screenshot of Akuma popped up in a review that has since been removed. What's funny is that while the review died a thousand deaths the URL for the screenshot is still active.

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"Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 00:02post reply

I guess that means the leak was legit?






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"Re(1):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 00:54post reply

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I guess that means the leak was legit?



Perhaps.

Damn, Jean Grey looks über-powerful. And even more when she becomes Dark Phoenix! She looks cool, but it's weird to see her chosen for the game over more popular X-Men options (Cyclops, Rogue, Gambit, Colossus). Still, her fans who are still waiting for her ressurection at the X-Men comic books now have something to enjoy...





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"Re(1):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 00:55post reply

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I guess that means the leak was legit?


Who doubted it, after the Shuma/Jill DLC thing?

Also, yeay for both of them, and worries for the remaining two. Some of the latest characters didn't look great (Magneto and Shulk, mostly) but these two look rather good.

Also, a bunch of alternate colours have surfaced, including America looking like the Punisher and Arthur with a green armor. Nice.





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"Re(2):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 02:08post reply

Ho ho, I can't believe they actually used Haggar! I am of course overjoyed since I have been looking for him in a fighting game for quite some time.

It's funny, the first time I read "Phoenix" (or Pheonix as most sites invariably spell it) I thought immediately that it meant Phoenix Wright, for some reason, and I didn't even make the connection when I watched the video with Jean Grey in it Not really sure what my problem is...





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"Re(1):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 05:35:post reply

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I guess that means the leak was legit?

There was never any discounting Lupinko's list. The only lists discounted were EVERY OTHER list. When I'm sure of something, it's probably something meaningful and true!

Just check it: Haggar punching with the same hand multiple times in a super combo. That was predicted/leaked/whatever. If you're STILL in denial or if you're still making guesses that go astray from what Lupinko shared with us, then I'm going to have to call you retarded or say that you're not paying attention at all.

That means at some point, Hsienko/Leilei will be in the game, and if you're in denial of that, see above paragraph.





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"Re(2):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 05:51:post reply

I trusted Lupinko since the first post of the leaks, it sounded genuine and very clever list, involving loved characters and wise choices both in the terms of appealing to players and marketing strategies (I still can't understand Viper in any case).
I will never play as Haggar or Phoenix (my mains are in the game since months) but I find them nice additions. I wondering about Jean from the first MvC, and the mayor is a nice addition, nostalgic and different from the same old Zangief. He deserves to be even in Street Fighter series. Come, on he's in Street Fighter '89 after all!


The remaining chars in the retail game will be Lei Lei and Taskmaster for sure.
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"Alternate colors, MODAM" , posted Fri 7 Jan 07:00post reply

http://www.destructoid.com/marvel-vs-capcom-3-extravaplosion--190882.phtml

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"Re(1):Alternate colors, MODAM" , posted Fri 7 Jan 07:36post reply

/fanboy on
I somewhat dislike the green color for Arthur, because in Super GnG that was the color for his bronze armor, which is, well, better than his regular armor. Here it's still the same ol' regular armor, just pretending.
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I kind of wonder what Arthur's gold armor will look like in his different palettes. Will it still be gold, even?





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"Re(2):Alternate colors, MODAM" , posted Fri 7 Jan 08:35post reply

Tranny MODOK is amazing. I remember when Disney bought Marvel there were people worried that the Marvel properties were going to have their rough edges sanded off in order to make them as marketable as possible. Instead, we have a game with the Marvel name front and center that has Hot Lips flying around the screen. This is good.

A small point, but I also like the smug smile on Super Skrull's face on the vs. screen. For a guy who has spent most of his career being the punching bag of the month in whatever comic he was in he certainly looks pleased with himself.





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"Re(2):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 11:22post reply

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Dark Phoenix!



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"Re(2):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 13:27post reply

quote:

Just check it: Haggar punching with the same hand multiple times in a super combo. That was predicted/leaked/whatever.



Huh, that one I did not know.

quote:

If you're STILL in denial or if you're still making guesses that go astray from what Lupinko shared with us, then I'm going to have to call you retarded or say that you're not paying attention at all.



Okay, where the hell did this one come from? I admit to being skeptical of the leak because of every other leak that came out, and the reason I wasn't fully convinced of lupinko, until now, was Megaman wasn't in his roster, and I was iffy on Phoenix and Sentinel in his roster. But to call me in denial is kinda unfair, man.






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"Re(3):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 14:05post reply

Ah, nice to finally see Haggar in action. I see they gave him his Mighty Final Fight forward body press. It's weird they still kept the life loss when he uses a lariat though. I hope that doesn't play too much into the game to make him or the move useless.





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"Re(3):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 14:11post reply

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Okay, where the hell did this one come from? I admit to being skeptical of the leak because of every other leak that came out, and the reason I wasn't fully convinced of lupinko, until now, was Megaman wasn't in his roster, and I was iffy on Phoenix and Sentinel in his roster. But to call me in denial is kinda unfair, man.

I'm just sayin' in general, mang. Lots of people in other places were certainly distrusting of what Lupinko shared based on silly semantics. What I'm saying is, if you're STILL doubting it after this reveal, then you have issues. If you've changed your perspective, then welcome aboard.





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"Re(4):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 16:26post reply

quote:
Okay, where the hell did this one come from? I admit to being skeptical of the leak because of every other leak that came out, and the reason I wasn't fully convinced of lupinko, until now, was Megaman wasn't in his roster, and I was iffy on Phoenix and Sentinel in his roster. But to call me in denial is kinda unfair, man.
I'm just sayin' in general, mang. Lots of people in other places were certainly distrusting of what Lupinko shared based on silly semantics. What I'm saying is, if you're STILL doubting it after this reveal, then you have issues. If you've changed your perspective, then welcome aboard.



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"Re(5):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 21:19post reply

That Haggar addition is quite remarkable. I find the char moveset quite unique, inspired and appealing, and that's exactly what our favorite mayor deserves!!

The question that hunts me after this is: now that Haggar made the cut, will D.D. and Ingrid share the same fate (as DLC chars, perhaps)?





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"Re(4):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Fri 7 Jan 23:46post reply

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Okay, where the hell did this one come from? I admit to being skeptical of the leak because of every other leak that came out, and the reason I wasn't fully convinced of lupinko, until now, was Megaman wasn't in his roster, and I was iffy on Phoenix and Sentinel in his roster. But to call me in denial is kinda unfair, man.
I'm just sayin' in general, mang. Lots of people in other places were certainly distrusting of what Lupinko shared based on silly semantics. What I'm saying is, if you're STILL doubting it after this reveal, then you have issues. If you've changed your perspective, then welcome aboard.



Ahh, alright, we cool. Yeah, people in denial at this stage have issues.

Anyway, regurgitating from another source,

quote:
Lupinko wrote:
hey dat twitterverse, shocking news, apparently dat 50sent and Leilei are unlockable characters as well, I don't know what to say but I know what to say about Jill and Shuma, they are real dlc and don't really exist yet

Hsien-ko info: For her item throw special of various miscellaneous items, there is a random chance that one of the items is a bomb and if it hits the opponent, it would result in a dizzy, but if it lands on the ground it would have a timer count down until it detonates
For people familiar with Vampire Savior, basically they integrated Leilei's EX Special into her regular Special

Taskmaster Super 1: He shoots a massive barrage of arrows straight forward
Taskmaster Super 2: It's a super counter

Oh right I confirmed that her EX Special, the one other than Tenraiha and Chuukudan is also in the game as a super
Wasn't able to get confirmation on Tenraiha itself, sorry, but I assume it's probably there
She still has her reflect, and can still run in the air as well her hopping teleport dash

Taskmaster's launcher is Stars & Stripes, when he throws you, he says "Judo throw!" and after doing that in his regular throw, he shoots you with a gun
He apparently shoots his opponent when he's on the ground during his judo throw, like he's upside down with his back from the throw
When he does his webswing, he uses a grappling hook obviously
He has a lot of special moves, but only 2 supers
In his taunt, he says "Is that all the moves ya got?"
He's very hunched forward
He has a New York accent, my source isn't too good with New York accents, but it's safe to assume it would be a Bronx one

The game also rates your playstyle during online play, for example, if you are a defensive player, offensive player, etc.,
This is represented by that circle graph of stats, it rates power level abilities too, you can also read the bio of all the characters
Think comicbook cards, this was actually shown off awhile back I think on the Japanese MvC3 site as well, so I'm not sure if this is new

In the Challenge Mode, you can do any challenge, and you don't need to go in order, you get to fight in what looks like the Danger Room
that's for the training level

Sentinel is pretty faithful to his older incarnation
Sentinel apparently has regained COTA levels of detail/animation again
Unfortunately my source was unable to confirm if Sentinel regained his bellyflop from COTA
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"Re(5):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Sat 8 Jan 00:07post reply

I'm okay if Hsien-Ko and Taskmaster are in MvC3, but Sentinel? Why? Just because it was god-tier in MvC2??

Sentinel isn't even a character per se, it's just part of a generic army of antimutant robots...

Then again, Capcom did bring back Shuma-Gorath as well...





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"Re(6):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Sat 8 Jan 00:57post reply

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Sentinel isn't even a character per se, it's just part of a generic army of antimutant robots...



Isn't that also the case with Phobos/Huitzil in Capcom's own Darkstalkers?
(actually, that's a bot I wouldn't mind seeing in this, I recall him having at least one beam attack that would fit right in. Then again, all those deformations during attack would drive the 3D modellers nuts).

quote:

Then again, Capcom did bring back Shuma-Gorath as well...



It still puzzles me, the notion that Capcom's sure enough that Jill (with a design other than her classic one at that...) and/or Shuma may be popular diverse enough to be worth paying extra for... Considering how much more mainstream other recurring characters in wishlists online are...

I wouldn't be surprised if having Gouki and Sentinel as DLC instead were actually twice as profitable as the current plan, and might hurt the game less in terms of variety at the time of initial purchase of the unaugmented game.





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"Re(7):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Sat 8 Jan 03:45:post reply

quote:
Jill (with a design other than her classic one at that...)



Ok, I'm a bit off topic here.
I played RE5 and stuff but I can't find out anything about the change in Jill's hair color.
Is because of

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
the symbiotic implanted by Wesker

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"Re(6):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Sat 8 Jan 04:47post reply

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The question that hunts me after this is: now that Haggar made the cut, will D.D. and Ingrid share the same fate (as DLC chars, perhaps)?

Haggar's ponytail has a better chance of coming back than D.D. and Ingrid.

Some new hi-res shots. It's nice to see Poison got all dressed up for the Mad Gear cameo in Metro City.





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"Re(8):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Sat 8 Jan 05:03post reply

quote:

Ok, I'm a bit off topic here.
I played RE5 and stuff but I can't find out anything about the change in Jill's hair color.



I know I am encouraging your off-topic behavior, but as I understood it:


Spoiler (Highlight to view) -

Yes, it has to do with the implant-- although I just think they wanted her to be blonde. You should totally spoilerize that symbiote thing in your question though!


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"Re(9):Long live our mayor and personal savior" , posted Sat 8 Jan 06:52post reply

quote:

Ok, I'm a bit off topic here.
I played RE5 and stuff but I can't find out anything about the change in Jill's hair color.



I remember one of the Capcom people once said that they wanted Jill to be beautiful, but in a somewhat different way than normal regarding her face in REmake.

I wonder how that played into her appearance in RE5, where the T-virus was slowly mutating her into Nina Williams.





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"Re(10):Long live our mayor and personal savio" , posted Sun 9 Jan 05:21post reply

[qupte]I wonder how that played into her appearance in RE5, where the T-virus was slowly mutating her into Nina Williams.



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"Re(2):Re(10):Long live our mayor and personal" , posted Wed 12 Jan 20:31post reply

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When asked on Capcom-Unity if practicing as Jill in Marvel vs Capcom 2 would be worth anything in Marvel vs Capcom 3, Seth Killian left this tantalizing response about the DLC character.

"MVC3 Jill is a completely new character (and definitely more along your "acrobatic gun user" track). She's more different and completely re-imagined than any other returning cast-member. She just might be the fastest character in the game, too..."



Ok, got it: Nina Williams with Noel moveset.
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"Re(3):Re(10):Long live our mayor and personal" , posted Wed 12 Jan 23:35post reply

quote:
When asked on Capcom-Unity if practicing as Jill in Marvel vs Capcom 2 would be worth anything in Marvel vs Capcom 3, Seth Killian left this tantalizing response about the DLC character.

"MVC3 Jill is a completely new character (and definitely more along your "acrobatic gun user" track). She's more different and completely re-imagined than any other returning cast-member. She just might be the fastest character in the game, too..."


Ok, got it: Nina Williams with Noel moveset.
Hope she does gunkata well.

Good call on the Noel comparison. Will Jill have the ability to summon up anything now? Will we even see any gameplay footage of Jill before the game comes out?





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"Re(4):Re(10):Long live our mayor and personal" , posted Thu 13 Jan 02:26post reply

That really sucks. I wanted MvC2 Jill, not another goddamn Trish. Fuck RE5. It wasn't enough to screw up the RE series, now it's screwing up the only character I liked in MvC2.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Long live our mayor and personal" , posted Thu 13 Jan 03:19:post reply

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That really sucks. I wanted MvC2 Jill, not another goddamn Trish. Fuck RE5. It wasn't enough to screw up the RE series, now it's screwing up the only character I liked in MvC2.


Yes, I will second this (EDIT: especially that I did not care for RE5), but I suspect that the heavy inclusion of RE5 versions of characters involves having models already available for use in the game, as opposed to needing creation from nothing.

Here is hoping that Frank West or Chuck what's-his-name from Dead Rising will be in the game, to at least add the zombie-summoning action.

After gnashing my teeth about buying so many games new at full price only to have them languish in the their boxes, unopened until their retail price drops or a greatest hits version is released for cheap, I finally broke down and preordered this last week, buoyed up by feelings of excitement about most of the cast (HAGGAR! ARTHUR! DANTE! to start with at least).





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"Re(6):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Thu 13 Jan 03:42post reply

Capcom Unity listed the different stuff you can get from pre-ordering from different places, which basically boils down to different shirts. But wait, is the 3rd one down.... Nishimura?! Looks like her work from The Chaos Tower. I'd like to see a Nishimura Wolvie.





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"Re(7):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Thu 13 Jan 04:21post reply

And don't forget the superior Shuma-Gorath shirt from Capcom's own online store!





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"Re(7):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Fri 14 Jan 20:01post reply

quote:
Capcom Unity listed the different stuff you can get from pre-ordering from different places, which basically boils down to different shirts. But wait, is the 3rd one down.... Nishimura?! Looks like her work from The Chaos Tower. I'd like to see a Nishimura Wolvie.



WAHHH! Those all make TERRIBLE shirts that I wouldn't be caught dead wearing, but please let me know if you find a better scan/shot of the Kinu picture. It looks fantastic!

Speaking of Kinu and fantastic, I got the Capcom Girls 2011 Calendar and it does not disappoint. When I saw the (Kinu) cover with Mayoi and Oichi together, I had to order it, no matter what was inside!





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"Re(8):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Sat 15 Jan 01:47post reply

I hope that comic cover t-shirt comes with several characters still blacked out in the art.

But MvC3 isn't about shirts, it's about the command that lets Thor talk endlessly in that pseudo-Shakespearean style of his.





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"Re(9):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Sat 15 Jan 03:39post reply

quote:
I hope that comic cover t-shirt comes with several characters still blacked out in the art.

But MvC3 isn't about shirts, it's about the command that lets Thor talk endlessly in that pseudo-Shakespearean style of his.



Har! I'm still impressed that Thor made the cut! Having not come anywhere near Thor's comics since the Walt Simonson era, I must admit I have no idea of his popularity as a character. But still!





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"Re(10):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Sat 15 Jan 04:15post reply

quote:
Har! I'm still impressed that Thor made the cut! Having not come anywhere near Thor's comics since the Walt Simonson era, I must admit I have no idea of his popularity as a character. But still!



If nothing else it's a smart marketing move because of the Thor movie coming out this year.





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"Re(2):Re(10):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Sat 15 Jan 07:27post reply

did anybody notice sentinel in the upper left corner of the shirt next to M.O.D.O.K.?





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"Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Sat 15 Jan 09:39post reply

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did anybody notice sentinel in the upper left corner of the shirt next to M.O.D.O.K.?



I'm pretty sure that's Deadpool.





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"Re(8):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Sat 15 Jan 19:43post reply

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And don't forget the superior Shuma-Gorath shirt from Capcom's own online store!



I just found out that you can't select a size on that, so it either comes in "fatso" or "super fatso". Or to put it nicer "Behemoth" or "Giant Bodybuilder" or...erm..."Hulk" or "90 Hip-hop Fashion Enthusiast". I don't even want to classify what kind of (non-fat) girl would wear that size.

A long time ago, lots of people from the board posted photos of themselves. I don't remember if there were a lot of plus-sized members, but I do remember a surprisingly large number of beards.





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"Re(9):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Sat 15 Jan 22:51post reply

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"Re(9):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Sun 16 Jan 07:51post reply

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I just found out that you can't select a size on that, so it either comes in "fatso" or "super fatso". Or to put it nicer "Behemoth" or "Giant Bodybuilder" or...erm..."Hulk" or "90 Hip-hop Fashion Enthusiast". I don't even want to classify what kind of (non-fat) girl would wear that size.

A long time ago, lots of people from the board posted photos of themselves. I don't remember if there were a lot of plus-sized members, but I do remember a surprisingly large number of beards.



Ha! Yes, I think there are always more beards than anyone expects given any group of men.

I'll second this about shirts-- it seems as though this is often the case in recent years that sizing starts at 'XL'.

I ended up preordering my copy from a local store where I am pretty sure there will be no bonus. I have too much free game giveaway crap that I never even look at much less wear as it is. Besides, preorder bonuses are like foil comic covers were in the 90's.





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"Re(10):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Mon 17 Jan 17:30post reply

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TASKMASTER.

now we wait on hsienko and cannon fodder





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"Re(2):Re(10):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Mon 17 Jan 18:06post reply

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TASKMASTER.

now we wait on hsienko and cannon fodder



Alright Taskmaster! Finally! After reading the recent mini that came out with him I am happy he made it to MVC 3.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):Taskmaster for sale!" , posted Tue 18 Jan 00:10post reply

It's the voice on Taskmaster that really sells the character.

Strange, the final official character trailers we are going to get for this game are either going to feature Shuma-Gorath or Hsien-Ko. I like it, but I didn't realize those two characters were going to sell the game to anyone but me.





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"Re(4):Re(10):Re(10):Taskmaster for sale!" , posted Tue 18 Jan 01:23post reply

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It's the voice on Taskmaster that really sells the character.




So Akuma in MvC3 has his super fireballs reversed from how they used to be in previous vs. games (air super fb was tons of hadokens, ground super fb was the beam)... wonder why that is. Guess everybody just like orbital beam cannons?

Is Taskmaster supposed to be so... nasal and young-sounding? I know next to nothing about him, so for me it looks odd when juxtaposed with how he looks.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Re(10):Taskmaster for sale!" , posted Tue 18 Jan 02:10:post reply

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So Akuma in MvC3 has his super fireballs reversed from how they used to be in previous vs. games (air super fb was tons of hadokens, ground super fb was the beam)... wonder why that is. Guess everybody just like orbital beam cannons?


I noticed that too. This looks to be the most offense oriented Akuma yet. They don't show him get hit, I wonder how his health will stack up.

Is Doom some kind of boss/mid-boss? Looks like they're saving Sentinel/Lei-Lei for last.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Re(10):Taskmaster for sale!" , posted Tue 18 Jan 02:14post reply

quote:


Is Taskmaster supposed to be so... nasal and young-sounding? I know next to nothing about him, so for me it looks odd when juxtaposed with how he looks.



Someone will have to correct me on accents but that is supposed to be his Brooklyn, New York accent. I'd have to listen to more quotes he has to say in the game to get a full grasp of the translation of his character to MVC3.





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"Re(6):Re(10):Re(10):Taskmaster for sale!" , posted Tue 18 Jan 03:57post reply

Gameplay videos are up at Famitsu. How many fireballs does Akuma have anyway?





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"Re(2):Re(10):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Tue 18 Jan 05:20post reply

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TASKMASTER.

now we wait on hsienko and cannon fodder



Spider Swing
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Ryu's throw
Hawkeye's bow
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"Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Tue 18 Jan 11:29post reply

quote:

Spider Swing
Charging Star
Ryu's throw And A Gun
Hawkeye's bow
Black Knight's sword



quote:

Is Doom some kind of boss/mid-boss? Looks like they're saving Sentinel/Lei-Lei for last.



I remember it's been mentioned that there's gonna be a souped-up Doom and/or Wesker as a sub-boss before Wacky Galacky.






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"Re(8):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Thu 27 Jan 08:23post reply

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WAHHH! Those all make TERRIBLE shirts that I wouldn't be caught dead wearing, but please let me know if you find a better scan/shot of the Kinu picture. It looks fantastic!


Polly, here's a slightly better version of that Nishimura piece. The composition is very Marvel dominated. I wonder if they had a similar agreement to the Tatsunoko one where the characters had to be portrayed evenly in promotional material. I especially like the Hulk's expression.





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"Re(9):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Thu 27 Jan 10:01:post reply

Here's a slightly better version of the LEILEI CONFIRMED :3
this too





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"Re(10):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Thu 27 Jan 10:58post reply

Yep, now all we got to do is wait for the reveal movies to get posted.





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"Re(9):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Thu 27 Jan 11:18post reply

I want the HD intro film of Hsien-Ko now!

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Polly, here's a slightly better version of that Nishimura piece. The composition is very Marvel dominated. I wonder if they had a similar agreement to the Tatsunoko one where the characters had to be portrayed evenly in promotional material. I especially like the Hulk's expression.

It looks like she was having a lot of fun drawing those tight body suits that superheroes favor for some reason.





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"Re(9):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Thu 27 Jan 11:30post reply

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WAHHH! Those all make TERRIBLE shirts that I wouldn't be caught dead wearing, but please let me know if you find a better scan/shot of the Kinu picture. It looks fantastic!

Polly, here's a slightly better version of that Nishimura piece. The composition is very Marvel dominated. I wonder if they had a similar agreement to the Tatsunoko one where the characters had to be portrayed evenly in promotional material. I especially like the Hulk's expression.



That Kinu art is beautiful. I especially like how Thor is trying to sneak a peak at Chun-Li.





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"Re(10):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Thu 27 Jan 14:14post reply

That's more like it!





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"Re(10):Re(10):T-shirts for sale!" , posted Thu 27 Jan 15:16post reply

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Here's a slightly better version of the LEILEI CONFIRMED :3
this too



Christ... I have to buy this game now. :(





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"Re(1):Cast complete" , posted Thu 27 Jan 21:51post reply

How does Sentinel stand up with those stubbly feet?


Sentinel's design is still the same and not any type of variation.

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"Re(2):Cast complete" , posted Thu 27 Jan 22:21post reply

Thanks for posting the giant Kinu art! In return (?) you can check out more super hero action (?) on her Twitter.

http://twitter.com/nishi_katsu

Anyway, even though you can tell the picture was done in a flash, she put so much care into rendering the Marvel characters. Of course the Capcom ones look great...Dante's expression is cool and Morrigan looks amazing, but I love the delicate fidelity she showed to the Marvel designs while maintaining her own style.

I hate to sound even more like a shameless Japanophile than usual, but I've been really disappointed in the American artists. I know there are at least some talented cover artists out there...





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"Re(3):Cast complete" , posted Fri 28 Jan 00:02post reply

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Thanks for posting the giant Kinu art! In return (?) you can check out more super hero action (?) on her Twitter.

http://twitter.com/nishi_katsu


Whaaa! The X-Statix background was unexpected (but cool)!

quote:

I hate to sound even more like a shameless Japanophile than usual, but I've been really disappointed in the American artists. I know there are at least some talented cover artists out there...


Hey, if you can't be an unashamed Japanophile here, I don't know where you can be. I totally agree, and this is something that really puzzles me. Can they just not get the best artists or something? You would think they would have artists beating down their door to illustrate a game like this (but maybe that is just the videgameophile in me talking! ).





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"Re(1):Cast complete" , posted Fri 28 Jan 01:53post reply

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Here's a slightly better version of the LEILEI CONFIRMED :3
this too



quote:
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Happy for Lei-Lei/Hsien-Ko, couldn't care less for Sentinel. Gameplay-wise it may be a great character (it was top tier in MvC2, wasn't it?), but in terms of personality or charisma I don't think Sentinel adds nothing at all... it's not even a character, but a kind of character (after all, there are many Sentinels in Marvel - or at least there used to be many of them prior to that Messiah CompleX event).





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"Re(2):Cast complete" , posted Fri 28 Jan 02:09post reply

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it's not even a character, but a kind of character


Sometimes I wish the whole disposable nature of Sentinel was exploited more in the character design. Sure Sentintel can shoot mini-Sentinels around, but that's it. Q-Bee in VS (as opposed to Vs.?) had some animations that featured her dying after stinging the opponent, just like a bee. Just because individually they have no character doesn't mean that they have no character as a whole!

Still, Sentinel was really quite an amazing character in the gameplay department, and Capcom's rendition of him was very interesting nonetheless. If you look at the kind of power that the big four of MvC2 have, it's amazing that there's any game balance at all just among them! Magneto's rushdown is so extreme that it's a wonder that anything can stop him... but something can! Sentinel's... well, everything, is so extreme that it's a wonder that anything can stop him... but something can! Cable's ability to punish mistakes and prevent anybody from doing anything is almost outrageous, and yet his zoning can still be broken.

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"Re(4):Cast complete" , posted Fri 28 Jan 02:11post reply

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Can they just not get the best artists or something?


Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe managed to get Alex Ross to do the cover, and yet the cover still looked mediocre.





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"Final trailers" , posted Fri 28 Jan 02:13post reply

Leilei
Too bad she interrupts her Tenraiha without showing what she can do with it. It's 50% of the point of the character.

Sentinel
I understand why the fans of the comics hate the fact that this "non character" is in the game, but from an outside point of view, you have to admit it looks really cool (especially how it has been animated and re-imagined through the Capcom games). He's almost an original character from the series from now on (almost like Shuma is more known by fans of the series than fans of the comics).





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"Re(2):Cast complete" , posted Fri 28 Jan 02:13post reply

Sentinel does have a charm all its own-- it doesn't really mesh with the rest of the characters but it does have a type of personality. (It reminds me of Q.) I'd also say that it does have a very unique play style too. That doesn't mean people aren't sick of everyone choosing him for the sake of winning the match.





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"Re(1):Final trailers" , posted Fri 28 Jan 02:22post reply

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Leilei
Too bad she interrupts her Tenraiha without showing what she can do with it. It's 50% of the point of the character.


Wow, she looks like a blast to play as, just like in the Vampires games! But hoo, her voice is pretty bad! Or is it just me?





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"Re(1):Final trailers" , posted Fri 28 Jan 02:46post reply

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Leilei
Too bad she interrupts her Tenraiha without showing what she can do with it. It's 50% of the point of the character.

Sentinel
I understand why the fans of the comics hate the fact that this "non character" is in the game, but from an outside point of view, you have to admit it looks really cool (especially how it has been animated and re-imagined through the Capcom games). He's almost an original character from the series from now on (almost like Shuma is more known by fans of the series than fans of the comics).



More videos of them from the same place:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-27-sentinel-hsien-ko-confirmed-for-mvc3





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"Re(4):Cast complete" , posted Fri 28 Jan 02:49post reply

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Whaaa! The X-Statix background was unexpected (but cool)!

THAT IS AMAZING. Already loved Kinu but we're reaching new levels of awesome. If this is somehow taken down before I get back home to download it I'm going to whine for years.

I wouldn't hate most of those UDON tools so much if Capcom wasn't using them instead of the great talent they have at their disposal.

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"Re(2):Final trailers" , posted Fri 28 Jan 02:50post reply

Good grief, she has her ground teleport, command throw and Dark Force? That little hopping dead girl brought everything to the game.

Even though the Sentinels only exist to be giant punching bags for the X-Men I must he looks fun in MvC3. Plus, the cast was in need of a really large character and he certainly fits the bill.





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"Re(3):Final trailers" , posted Fri 28 Jan 03:22post reply

Call me crazy, but I like her voice! Especially that 'You're gonna get hurt!'. Sentinel looks a bit slower than his manic MvC2 self. I just wish he had his combining intro like in CotA.





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"Re(4):Final trailers" , posted Fri 28 Jan 04:13post reply

Very happy about LeiLei, but I don't like her remixed theme. It lost its ghostly touch, so don't fit a kyonshi well imho.

Next week we'll see two more characters, according to Sven: hope they're NOT Shuma and Jill!





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"Re(2):Cast complete" , posted Fri 28 Jan 19:08post reply

quote:

Happy for Lei-Lei/Hsien-Ko, couldn't care less for Sentinel. Gameplay-wise it may be a great character (it was top tier in MvC2, wasn't it?), but in terms of personality or charisma I don't think Sentinel adds nothing at all... it's not even a character, but a kind of character (after all, there are many Sentinels in Marvel - or at least there used to be many of them prior to that Messiah CompleX event).



Well, Phobos/Huitzil (who might fit the over-the-toppness of this kind of game, but I haven't played in ages and can only remember the beams...) has pretty much the same kind of role, at least in the 1st Vampire/Darkstalkers, before they made him tag along with a kid. Maybe (t)he(y)'ll get a cameo in the Sentinel ending, at least...

Sentinels: "Destroy all mutants!"
Phobos army: "Destroy all life forms!"
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"Re(5):Final trailers" , posted Fri 28 Jan 20:59post reply

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Very happy about LeiLei, but I don't like her remixed theme. It lost its ghostly touch, so don't fit a kyonshi well imho.

I agree, it sounds like "generic happy chinese girl theme".

I'm a bit worried about Leilei in that game, though: her moves had a use in Vampire, but how useful will they be in a vastly different context? The jiraitô (the swords) were a "get away from me" move, but how useful is it in MvC where you just need the Morrigan assist to do that for free, and anyone can superjump over the swords? And the Tenraiha, which was used to do nasty things to build unblockable traps, just seems to be a combo finisher-OTG move...

The gong seems super good, though. A good answer to MODOK's shield.

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"Re(6):Final trailers" , posted Fri 28 Jan 21:54post reply

Gosh, I am dying to play Lei-Lei. I've been hungry for some Vampire Savior lately, but my PS3 broke (even after I repaired it) and I had to replace it with a slim. My PS2 was given to a friend, so I don't really have any means to play. C'mon Vampire Chronicles PSN release!

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Wow, she looks like a blast to play as, just like in the Vampires games! But hoo, her voice is pretty bad! Or is it just me?


A lot of the dub voices rub me the wrong way, but really, what would a good Lei-Lei sound like in English? I think it's just like SF4, where you have cheesy (but iconic) in Japanese with bad English, or cheesy in English with bad Japanese.

Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but it's more like "as good as you can expect."

quote:
I'm a bit worried about Leilei in that game, though: her moves had a use in Vampire, but how useful will they be in a vastly different context?


This is (one reason) why these games have such poor balance. You want to keep the character's signature moves, but when you plug them into a completely different game, how can you expect them to work the same? It's not as bad as KOF MI, though, I suppose...

I'm surprised they stuck to tradition SO much on the Marvel characters, too. I guess people really don't like it when you change things.





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"Re(6):Final trailers" , posted Fri 28 Jan 23:09post reply

quote:

The jiraitô (the swords) were a "get away from me" move, but how useful is it in MvC where you just need the Morrigan assist to do that for free, and anyone can superjump over the swords?



Are you sure it cannot be performed as aerial too? Pretty useless if not.





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"Re(7):Final trailers" , posted Sat 29 Jan 00:21post reply

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Are you sure it cannot be performed as aerial too? Pretty useless if not.


I'm not sure of anything, since I just saw the same videos as you, but there really is a height problem. Compare with Magneto's Magnetic Shockwave. The sword only fill one screen. Also, the damage don't seem fantastic...
I don't say it's totally useless, but I'd be very curious to know how the move is going to be efficiently used.





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"Re(8):Final trailers" , posted Sat 29 Jan 01:13:post reply

quote:
Are you sure it cannot be performed as aerial too? Pretty useless if not.

I'm not sure of anything, since I just saw the same videos as you, but there really is a height problem. Compare with Magneto's Magnetic Shockwave. The sword only fill one screen. Also, the damage don't seem fantastic...
I don't say it's totally useless, but I'd be very curious to know how the move is going to be efficiently used.


(ES) gong (midair) will be her usual tool for zoning, which then she can add to the pressure with Jiraito + assists if necessary to get in and crunch the opponent in

The only gamble is that her airdash and walkspeed are a bit slower than her NW/VS incarnation, but otherwise, she'll be pretty godlike from the looks of it

Only that she'll still have a bit of trouble breaking out of pressure herself, though maybe she can gong or if she has meter, or I'm not sure what the properties of Senpuu Bu are here and whether or not she can use it as a reversal despite its startup frames





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"Re(9):Final trailers" , posted Sat 29 Jan 01:51post reply

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(ES) gong (midair) will be her usual tool for zoning, which then she can add to the pressure with Jiraito + assists if necessary to get in and crunch the opponent in

I agree, it looks like we're going to cherish and love the gongs. The part of the video where she totally nullifies Arthur was almost sad.
I'm still not convinced Jiraito would be any useful to control the screen, with all her other moves that seem almost as useful, but without being supers...
quote:
Only that she'll still have a bit of trouble breaking out of pressure herself, though maybe she can gong or if she has meter, or I'm not sure what the properties of Senpuu Bu are here and whether or not she can use it as a reversal despite its startup frames

Maybe Jiraito has some kind of invincibility? There's very few supers with invincibility, so it could justify the gauge spent on on a defensive, low damage move...
I'm not sure her great antiair from Savior will be half as useful, since it seems to also be her launcher, and that would be completely broken... Maybe strong ankihô ?
Anyhow, there's not many weaknesses in the game that can't be covered with the right assist, I suppose.





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"Re(10):Final trailers" , posted Sat 29 Jan 03:28post reply

It seems to me from the vids. that swords are going to have to be used w/assists. In one of those it almost looks like you can connect one after Tenraiha. Gong looks to stay out for quite some time, but I'm not entirely sure how fireball clash works in this game. What about multi hit projectiles? When I played the early build in Chicago it felt different than MvC2, almost random.





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"Re(8):Final trailers" , posted Sat 29 Jan 13:15post reply

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Are you sure it cannot be performed as aerial too? Pretty useless if not.

I'm not sure of anything, since I just saw the same videos as you, but there really is a height problem. Compare with Magneto's Magnetic Shockwave. The sword only fill one screen. Also, the damage don't seem fantastic...
I don't say it's totally useless, but I'd be very curious to know how the move is going to be efficiently used.



It can be used as a combo ender, though... I might be just speculating, but I remember reading that one of the reasons ground roll recovery wasn't like MvC2 was so that guys with air supers do not have a distinct advantage over guys without.






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"Re(9):Final trailers" , posted Sun 30 Jan 17:18post reply

Since Capcom has announced that the recent character reveals aren't quite done yet, who do you people think are the remaining characters? Are they just the already announced DLC or the remaining character from the "leaked" list (Galactus) ?

Also what are your planned teams so far!? I am really excited to play with Amaterasu/Dormammu/Rupaul (She Hulk)





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"Re(10):Final trailers" , posted Sun 30 Jan 23:25post reply

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Since Capcom has announced that the recent character reveals aren't quite done yet, who do you people think are the remaining characters? Are they just the already announced DLC or the remaining character from the "leaked" list (Galactus) ?

Also what are your planned teams so far!? I am really excited to play with Amaterasu/Dormammu/Rupaul (She Hulk)



Spidey and some other guys (either Deadpool, Haggar, X-23, HsienKo, She Hulk) . I'm glad that web-head's gotten some improvements in this iteration.

Also, Character Viewers are apparently available for with every character you beat the game. Yay?






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"Re(10):Final trailers" , posted Sun 30 Jan 23:44post reply

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Also what are your planned teams so far!? I am really excited to play with Amaterasu/Dormammu/Rupaul (She Hulk)


I'll try a "Dormammu and his hos" type of team, probably Dorm-Morrigan-Trish.
Then a team based around Arthur, possibly Arthur-Leilei-MODOK? Or maybe Arthur-Haggar-Felicia?
And then, of course, a team based around Shuma. Too many characters... And Sentinel looks Senti-cute...

I'm also preparing myself to go through the trouble of getting a Japanese version of the game, along with having a Japanese account and buying the Japanese DLC.
I am just NOT going to play with a character called "Hsienko".





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"Re(2):Re(10):Final trailers" , posted Mon 31 Jan 03:17post reply

One team I want to try out is Team Chair with Dormammu, Doctor Doom and MODOK. Both Doom and Dormmamu show up to the fight in chairs while MODOK is the chair. Other possible teams include Team Stumpy Bastard (Arthur/Wolverine/Viewtiful Joe) and Team Adorable (Hsien-Ko/Tron/Shuma-Gorath.)





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"Re(10):Final trailers" , posted Mon 31 Jan 07:01post reply

quote:
Since Capcom has announced that the recent character reveals aren't quite done yet, who do you people think are the remaining characters? Are they just the already announced DLC or the remaining character from the "leaked" list (Galactus) ?



Something to consider: you know how each character shouts the name of a partner when a tag-in is executed? All of those had to be recorded well in advance. This means once the actual game comes out, there's a chance the full roster will be revealed just by listening to the sound data unless the game is designed that when new characters are added, the sound data for all characters is updated (this doesn't seem efficient though).

This could also limit on-the-fly additions of new characters (like as the result of a voting contest, write-in campaign, etc). If Capcom decides to add a character that's not part of the complete roster (original cast + original DLC cast), then they'd have to go back and get all the VO's to record tag-in "names" for the new characters.






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"Re(2):Re(10):Final trailers" , posted Mon 31 Jan 07:07post reply

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This could also limit on-the-fly additions of new characters (like as the result of a voting contest, write-in campaign, etc). If Capcom decides to add a character that's not part of the complete roster (original cast + original DLC cast), then they'd have to go back and get all the VO's to record tag-in "names" for the new characters.


I would imagine they all have a nondescript "Partner!" voice to shout for these cases.
Are we even sure the characters all have 37 voices calling everyone out in the first place? I'm sure some just call "your turn!", that can be used for several characters.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Final trailers" , posted Mon 31 Jan 07:25post reply

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I would imagine they all have a nondescript "Partner!" voice to shout for these cases.
Are we even sure the characters all have 37 voices calling everyone out in the first place? I'm sure some just call "your turn!", that can be used for several characters.



In most of the videos I've seen, everyone calls out their partner characters by name (even Sentinel and Hsien-Ko). It's a testament to how much detail Capcom has put into the game.

Then again, now that I think about it, game's often have data in them that isn't used, and I wonder if the MvC3 voice actors recorded sound that will never be used ("FRANK!"). Deadpool had audio in the earlier gameplay videos that I have not heard in later footage (I hope "I hear bullets taste just like chicken," isn't taken out).






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"Re(3):Re(10):Final trailers" , posted Mon 31 Jan 09:06post reply

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One team I want to try out is Team Chair with Dormammu, Doctor Doom and MODOK.


Funny, I had some dork-talk with a friend last night that involved this very thing. Showing up in a chair is pretty damn classy, I said. He did not agree.

Was there news at some point that there would be a bunch of DLC characters besides Jill and Shuma-kun? I seem to remember there was. Since saying "I would love to see *** in the game" where *** = Arthur and then later Haggar coincided with their being in the game, I will say this: "I would love to see that one guy from Forgotten Worlds in the game". Or, if you prefer: "I would love to see that other guy from Forgotten Worlds in the game".





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"Re(4):Re(10):Final trailers" , posted Mon 31 Jan 09:37post reply

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"I would love to see that one guy from Forgotten Worlds in the game". Or, if you prefer: "I would love to see that other guy from Forgotten Worlds in the game".



In MvC1, I remember he was an assist named "Unknown Soldier". It was the blue (caucasian!) one.

What WOULD they call the other one?
"Also Unknown Soldier"?





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"Re(3):Re(10):Final trailers" , posted Mon 31 Jan 10:24post reply

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I would imagine they all have a nondescript "Partner!" voice to shout for these cases.
Are we even sure the characters all have 37 voices calling everyone out in the first place? I'm sure some just call "your turn!", that can be used for several characters.



That was my assumption.

I know that the game was recorded a very long time ago, because the director was talking about it (privately, I mean) well before the game was even announced.

This likely gives us one of two scenarios:
1) They made the DLC characters long ago along with the rest of the cast and they're just being stingy, contrary to their statements about creating characters late in the production. This could lead to some fun and interesting DLC characters.

2) They really are working on the DLC characters later, in which case they probably won't have individual "call ins" from other characters, and aren't likely to be completely new characters.





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"Re(4):Re(10):Final trailers" , posted Mon 31 Jan 23:45post reply

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"Re(5):Re(10):Final final" , posted Tue 1 Feb 05:34:post reply

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In MvC1, I remember he was an assist named "Unknown Soldier". It was the blue (caucasian!) one.

What WOULD they call the other one?
"Also Unknown Soldier"?


My guess is that they're both 'Unknown Soldier'. Weren't they called "Nameless Soldiers" in the game's intro? I'd love either one to be in MvC3! Or both, a la Yun and Yang in... what, was it CvS2?

That's a game that I wish Capcom had made a sequel of!

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"Tentacle Love" , posted Thu 3 Feb 21:06post reply

The most important character of the series joins the cast.
He looks fantastic, and more importantly, dandy as he always should.

Also on the pics, some purple chick that I refuse to associate with any character from the Bio Hasard series I know.





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"Re(1):Tentacle Love" , posted Thu 3 Feb 21:58post reply

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The most important character of the series joins the cast.
He looks fantastic, and more importantly, dandy as he always should.

Also on the pics, some purple chick that I refuse to associate with any character from the Bio Hasard series I know.



Yes, completely agreed.

I have a question for you, besides its dumbness.
In the original MSH Shuma has its default color as purple, but in the later games its default color is green.
Are there many versions of the same character or it was unintentional?





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"Re(2):Tentacle Love" , posted Thu 3 Feb 23:23post reply

Now I can see why Capcom wanted Shuma-Gorath in the game; that eldritch abomination is adorable! Now we just need that chatty plant thing from Battle Circuit to make a comeback and we'll be set.

Random thoughts: Is the Haggar statue in the Metro City stage the same one that was in SSF4? For that matter when did Haggar decide to become the Mayor of New York instead of that vague, violent town he used to call home?

Also, is it me or is the RE representation in this game the weak link stylistically? Guns and some leaping kicks are great when you're dealing with a super virus but when everybody in MvC3 has it cranked up to 11 the RE guys look a bit subdued.





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"Re(3):Tentacle Love" , posted Fri 4 Feb 09:12post reply

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Now we just need that chatty plant thing from Battle Circuit to make a comeback and we'll be set.

YES. Also, I thought Shuma would be be bigger. Is it just me?

quote:
Random thoughts: Is the Haggar statue in the Metro City stage the same one that was in SSF4? For that matter when did Haggar decide to become the Mayor of New York instead of that vague, violent town he used to call home?


Metro City is hardly vague, although I think it was meant to be a game analogue of New York, given its look and feel. Don't know how I feel about moving him to NY. I suspect it's part of the game's 'story' to explain his presence in the game.

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Also, is it me or is the RE representation in this game the weak link stylistically? Guns and some leaping kicks are great when you're dealing with a super virus but when everybody in MvC3 has it cranked up to 11 the RE guys look a bit subdued.


Yes, I was thinking the same thing, and also finding it strange that only two Street Fighters are in the game, while there are three people from RE. I'm liking Wesker's design and style, but I had hoped to have MvC2-style Jill or at least have Chris with some of her moves. Oh well, perhaps Frank West or that other guy will be another DLC character.

I'm actually quite excited about this game! I may even follow through on my constant claim that I will play against some cafe-ers online even.





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"Re(4):Tentacle Love" , posted Fri 4 Feb 09:48post reply

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... and also finding it strange that only two Street Fighters are in the game...



There are actually four SF characters now (Ryu, Chunli, Gouki, and C. Viper). Hopefully any future DLC won't add to that total





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"Re(5):Tentacle Love" , posted Fri 4 Feb 14:00post reply

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There are actually four SF characters now (Ryu, Chunli, Gouki, and C. Viper). Hopefully any future DLC won't add to that total


Guh, you're right. Maybe my brain was trying to edit out Gouki and Viper...





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"Re(1):Tentacle Love" , posted Fri 4 Feb 14:18post reply

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The most important character of the series joins the cast.
He looks fantastic, and more importantly, dandy as he always should.
Indeed! Shuma is once again the most gorgeous situation in Marvel.

and hey wait when did Jill become Nina Williams





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"Re(5):Tentacle Love" , posted Fri 4 Feb 20:22post reply

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... and also finding it strange that only two Street Fighters are in the game...


There are actually four SF characters now (Ryu, Chunli, Gouki, and C. Viper). Hopefully any future DLC won't add to that total



Technically Haggar too, according to Final Fight's text on the character.
He probably ran for mayor of NY under JJJ's support, so people would stop looking to Spiderman to deal with crime in the city or something.

As for Shuma, I recall reading something about Capcom getting his color wrong in MSH, and correcting it in later games. Odd are that palette will still be around...
I'm still surprised about those choices for DLC - Shuma has big fans, but I just don't see the mass appeal that would make people play extra to use him (or that version of Jill for that matter). Had Capcom put a price tag on Sentinel and Gouki instead, the boxed game would feel like a fresher experience and the DLC would have been a garanteed success...





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"Re(6):Tentacle Love" , posted Sat 5 Feb 03:50post reply

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Had Capcom put a price tag on Sentinel and Gouki instead, the boxed game would feel like a fresher experience and the DLC would have been a garanteed success...


Yeah, but I'm pretty sure they're banking on the Megaman, Captain Commando, and Strider DLC packs to steal people's money. Come to think of it, the big DLC draws seem to be on the Capcom side. I've heard rumblings that Frank West and Elektra are the next set after Shuma/Jill. meh..





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"Re(7):Tentacle Love" , posted Sat 5 Feb 06:41post reply

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Yeah, but I'm pretty sure they're banking on the Megaman, Captain Commando, and Strider DLC packs to steal people's money. Come to think of it, the big DLC draws seem to be on the Capcom side. I've heard rumblings that Frank West and Elektra are the next set after Shuma/Jill. meh..


I'd love Frank West, myself! Elektra? I'm sure she's very different from the Frank Miller-era character I recall. I'd prefer Daredevil, honestly, but I don't know how much different he would end up being from Spiderman play-wise (or Jill, for that matter). And despite my griping in the past about DLC, this is one game I'll likely spring for extra content in.





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"Re(8):Tentacle Love" , posted Sat 5 Feb 07:16post reply

I'm rather surprised Frank West isn't in in already. I mean couldn't they just largely port him over from TvC? I'm assuming that's what they did with Viewful Joe and Zero (assuming in that I never played TvC - but this is Capcom for goodness sake so a certain level of rehash is to be expected).

Personally I'd really rather have Chuck Greene then Frank. His combo weapons would make for some awesome specials and supers.





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"Re(9):Tentacle Love" , posted Sun 6 Feb 00:01post reply

I think the game needs another Capcom villain, and the one that comes to mind is M. Bison/Vega. The Marvel side has 6 villains (S.Skrull, MODOK, Dormammu, Doom, Maggy, Sentinel). All Capcom has is Wesker and Akuma. I was really hoping to play an awesome "Capcom Evil Team of Evil" Team. Maybe I need a magical golden ticket...






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"Re(10):Tentacle Love" , posted Sun 6 Feb 02:48post reply

quote:
I think the game needs another Capcom villain, and the one that comes to mind is M. Bison/Vega. The Marvel side has 6 villains (S.Skrull, MODOK, Dormammu, Doom, Maggy, Sentinel). All Capcom has is Wesker and Akuma. I was really hoping to play an awesome "Capcom Evil Team of Evil" Team. Maybe I need a magical golden ticket...



I think Jedah would be AWESOME.
But knowing Cap...ehm, marketing, they end up chosing Vega or, into extremes, Pyron.





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