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| "Re(3):Scott Pilgrim made my day" , posted Tue 17 Aug 01:08![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/permalink2.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![post reply](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/email.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif)
quote: I've only read a smidgen of the comic, but Cera seems way more effeminate than the comic book Pilgrim. The comic book version feels much more aggressive and confident. Maybe I'm wrong?
I was very afraid that it would kill the movie for me... but he kinda pull it off in the end. The only moment I felt he didn't fit as Pilgrim was the moment when he's in bed with Ramona... He's just too skinny and it wasn't how I pictured it... For the rest of the movie, I'd say he exceeded my expectations (which weren't very high, to be honest). He particularly impressed me in the fight scenes, he was very believable as a badass geek, which suprised me to no end.
The mood, ambiance, etc. are SPOT ON! If you've read the comic and enjoyed it, you can't miss this for the world...
I understand some people's hatred, though... It's definitely the kind of movie/comic that you have to "get" to enjoy.
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| "Re(4):Scott Pilgrim made my day" , posted Tue 17 Aug 03:37![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/permalink2.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![post reply](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/email.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif)
quote: I've only read a smidgen of the comic, but Cera seems way more effeminate than the comic book Pilgrim. The comic book version feels much more aggressive and confident. Maybe I'm wrong?
I was very afraid that it would kill the movie for me... but he kinda pull it off in the end. The only moment I felt he didn't fit as Pilgrim was the moment when he's in bed with Ramona... He's just too skinny and it wasn't how I pictured it... For the rest of the movie, I'd say he exceeded my expectations (which weren't very high, to be honest). He particularly impressed me in the fight scenes, he was very believable as a badass geek, which suprised me to no end.
He's actually one of the things that makes me hesitate about going to see the movie-- All of the art, the comic, the game, you name it, it all paints Pilgrim as a sort of tougher and cooler person than I can imagine Cera pulling off.
I think the reason he was cast is that he is the kind of actor who 'gets cast in this kind of movie' regardless of whether someone else would be better. I think he must sell really well to the 'sensitive quirky' crowd or something.
Eh, I will wait for second-run showings or rental. But then I make the same decision about a lot of movies, so no one should take my opinion seriously.
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| "Re(1):Scott Pilgrim made my day" , posted Tue 17 Aug 06:37![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/permalink2.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![post reply](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/email.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif)
Speaking as someone who grew up on US TV/movies/comics and who read the Scott Pilgrim graphic novels before the movie had even been announced I just want to say that I really enjoyed the movie, I hope its a success but it was not perfect.
The good things: The style of the movie really emulated the books. The multi-frames, the video game special effects, the funny captions and special effects were really well done. The editing, the visuals-- it was all something that were special and combined in a well thought out way. It was a movie that was really well put together.
The bad: There's only two flaws to the movie-- Michael Cera and the dense plot. Because you have to cram in seven-plus "boss" fights into the movie, your gonna get a fast moving story. This stunts the ability to give depth to all the characters. It also makes you feel exasperated because you know that a boss fight is going to happen very soon.
I love Michael Cera in Arrested Development. I thought he was good in Superbad (although I don't care for that movie). I did not like Michael Cera in this movie. His acting was 1-dimensional. He didn't pull any emotions from me and he didn't really sell the idea that he could win a fight.
The two love interests, Ramona and Knives Chau, pulled more emotions from me. I felt Ramona's sadness, regret and toughness. I also felt Chau's hyper excitedness, naivety and ultimately her growth into a wise young woman. Scott grew and changed in the movie but Michael Cera just didn't make me feel any of Scott's sadness, anger or growth. In fact, Kim Pine, a secondary character in Scott's band emoted a lot better then Michael Cera's Scott and that actress had 5% of the lines MC had.
Regardless of MC's 1-dimensional acting to this role I was happy overall with the movie. I hope it becomes a cult hit and is remembered. Edgar Wright did a great job with this movie!
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| "Re(3):Scott Pilgrim made my day" , posted Wed 18 Aug 01:48![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/permalink2.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![post reply](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/email.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif)
I played the game quite a bit last night, and I have to say that I think it's really well made and fun, and more than anything else it looks and sounds great. Ubisoft did a great job all around.
So as not to spoil it for anyone who hasn't played yet, but wants to:
Spoiler (Highlight to view) - I'm liking a lot of the pieces, especially the 'pocket dimension' areas entered through some of the game's doors (complete with glitched-out overlays), all the different shops, and the Super Mario style overworld pipes on the main map.
End of Spoiler
I think the best way to describe it is this: finally, someone has made a game based on some other IP (whether you want to think of it as based on a movie or on a comic book) that's truly good an its own merits. I don't really give a crap (or HAVE to give a crap, let's say), ultimately, who the game's characters are-- I like the game entirely on its own merits. I know there have been other decent licensed games that aren't trash, but let's at least say they are few and far between.
Oh, and the soundtrack is great-- I like that while it's a 'chiptune' soundtrack, it has plenty of things games of the referenced era didn't have, like complex pans, fades, and layered audio. Am I wrong that Anamanaguchi supplied the OST? Hopefully it will be output somewhere at some point, because it's nice and catchy.
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| "Re(4):Scott Pilgrim made my day" , posted Wed 18 Aug 11:22![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/permalink2.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![post reply](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/email.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif)
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Oh, and the soundtrack is great-- I like that while it's a 'chiptune' soundtrack, it has plenty of things games of the referenced era didn't have, like complex pans, fades, and layered audio. Am I wrong that Anamanaguchi supplied the OST? Hopefully it will be output somewhere at some point, because it's nice and catchy.
Yep, Anamanaguchi was behind the sounds. Paul Robertson, the guy who made the Pirate Baby Cabana Battle way back, was part of the design team.
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| "Re(2):Scott Pilgrim made my day" , posted Fri 20 Aug 18:52![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/permalink2.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![post reply](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/email.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif)
quote: I've seen five or six critics call Pilgrim "Twlight for boys" or "Twilight for nerds", and it's exactly what it is - self-insert nerd garbage. (...) I wish "geek culture" hadn't taken over entertainment. Pilgrim makes it even worse. Now you go to the theater to watch videogames.
I've only read the 1st chapter of the comic (the movie's not availabl here yet), but it doesn't paint a very sympathetic picture of Scott - you can tell everyone he deals with disapproves of how he handles his life, or at least his relationship with Knives, and that Knives herself only seems to like him due to knowing that many guys (at least not of his age).
Still, when the movie comes, I'm not seeing it for the plot, which seems openly silly - at most, you could interpret the "ex-boyfriend boss rush" thing as symbolic of how one might need to surpass expectations froma loved one's previous relationships.
I'm seeing it to see how video game language gets adapted to a movie, after story-telling tricks from literature and moves/TV being used in games - it may not be the 1st movie to do it, but certainly seems to be the most open and flashier about it, and it should be interesting to see if this sort of imagery makes it to future productions and how well.
It's kinda funny that of all things, when thinking about this movie I also think about "Stranger than Fiction", due to the little visual details that reflected the protagonist's view of the world - he's a numbers-oriented guy, so you often see things like graphs drawn over liquid containers in the scenery (not drawn on them, think more like a very very toned-down "Terminator view") measuring thing like percentages. I found it an interesting way to show the character's thought processes, and it seems a movie like Scott Pilgrim will crank this sort of thing up to eleven - personally, I welcome that, and can't wait to see more of it in the future, if in a more subtle manner.
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| "Re(5):Scott Pilgrim made my day" , posted Mon 23 Aug 10:01![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/permalink2.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![post reply](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/email.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif)
quote: Thanks for the video. While I really liked the demo I was uncertain how much more there was to the game. It looks like once you get a full moves list you can really go crazy.
Going from the video it also looks like you haven't figured out what to do with the summoned girl who burps "love" either.
The summoned girl (Knives Chau) is good depending on the character. For the Scott character, she does that LOVE thing, and when the cloud disappears every enemy on the screen is stunned for about one second. It can be useful in some situations, like a ton of guys on screen, but I usually save those "guts" points for health.
You see, if you have guts points left after you die, you will automatically revive and the guts points will be converted to health at a 1/2 point ratio. So it's more useful to save the points in general.
Other characters have better uses for her. For example, Kim and Knives will have a short makeout session (which of course heals her), and Ramona will be coffeed up and go into that super flashing mode. The other dude's version is an attack like Ibuki's SA1. :)
If you get the game, one thing to remember is not to get too leveled up. I have watched a bunch of vids online and one guy is so powerful that he just kills all enemies in one jump kick (I think this is even on hard difficulty). That's not fun. In my vid I put a lot of points into defense but kept my strength stat at medium to make the game a little more interesting. Luckily you can reset your stats at the menu and rebuild your character as you see fit (but you have to get the money to do so).
Play to win... or to have fun too! :)
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| "Re(2):Scott Pilgrim made my day" , posted Wed 8 Sep 09:58![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/permalink2.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif) ![post reply](http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/graphics/email.gif) ![](http://www.mmcafe.com/l.gif)
quote: I understand that Scott Pilgrim in general is as accessible to nongamers, but did you really hate the movie that much, beto? (I haven't watched the movie, so I really have no idea of its quality)
you forget! beto is mmcafe's resident emo. hell, he was emo before emo was named emo! isn't that right, emo? i mean, beto!
i've played the game, read the comic, and watched the movie. i could write dozens of thoughtful paragraphs about what i loved, what i hated, and what i felt needed improvement. but at the end of the day, if you have any appreciation for nerd culture (and you probably do if you're on this board), then any piece of media with the Scott Pilgrim name on it is simply fun
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