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| "Vega's nationality" , posted Sun 14 Mar 13:17:|
RENEGADE THREAD This separatist thread has defied the territorial integrity of the SSFIV thread.
Following the rather awesome thread we had a while ago on Dudley's race (I always thought he was black, but the Indian case was a new perspective), let's talk about dictator Vega.
Obviously, there just -isn't- any answer or secret, Capcom's never cared, and in a way, that's kind of cool and impressive among a bunch of 'culturally representative' fighters. But I don't care, give me a good reason for where this man and his Shadowloo are from!
Let's see, his original SF II stage was in...Thailand, wasn't it? (Unless it was in Burma...) I seem to recall that his SF Zero 2 airstrip stage where he faced off with Nash was in Venezuela. SF Zero 3 is in lame lame "Shadowloo Zone XXXXX ?????" so that's no fun.
My guess: hmm, oppressive military man based in South Asia...is he an offshoot of Burma's junta? An American crime kingpin? A stateless refugee who became a military man?
[this message was edited by Maou on Sun 14 Mar 13:18]
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| "Re(1):Vega's nationality" , posted Sun 14 Mar 14:26|
Well, in Zero 3 he does mention that he was known by many names across history, likely implying that he kept getting reincarnated. He of course dies sometime during Zero 3 and later gets revived in a new body made by his scientists, explaining the lack of stockiness in post Zero incarnations.
Now if I were to put on my crazed Star Gladiator fanboy hat on for a moment, I would like to point out that Doctor Edward Bilstein also dies once (at the end of Star Gladiator 1), but gets revived later in a new body made by his scientists. Bilstein also has a device very similar to Vega's Psycho Drive.
What makes this interesting is that:
-Bilstein got started on his Plasma Energy research after he found notes left over by one of his ancestors, who supposedly failed to complete his work.
-Bilstein, while American, is supposedly of German origins, which means his ancestor was from Germany. (I think this was mentioned on the old SG1 site, but that doesn't seem to exist anymore, but regardless, his name is clearly German)
-The name of Bilstein's organization is the Fourth Empire, which is obviously a reference to the Third Reich.
What I'm basically trying to say is: I believe Bilstein's ancestor was a Nazi scientist who worked on Plasma/Psycho energy research on behest of Vega a.k.a HITLER.
...now I want a Street Fighter game set during WWII with Psycho Hitler for a last boss and possibly Goutetsu as playable character. (Akatsuki Blitzkampf was lacking in the Hitler department..)
| "Re(6):Vega's nationality" , posted Sun 14 Mar 20:20|
Abel himself is blond with blue/grey eyes. A clone/perfect soldier of the arian race?
Seth and Abel are names from Jewish Bible, and with Kain are the sons of Adam.
Also, Gill and Urien resemble Seth in many forms (stance, focus, normals).
Gill is probably a wrong form of the Jewish name Gil (meaning "joy" or "age", in fact he has the plan to bring a new age).
Urien is Breton name, but it resembles again Jewish names like Urim, Uriel or Urizen but whitout a particular significance related to the character.
But similiraties don't end here. Seth is a "prototype" to Gill in metareferencial ways... in origin Gill was planned to have Yin/Yang powers instead of Fire/Ice so his colors were white and black. To programmers at time that seemed a little too simple to prove the power of the new CPS3 so repainted him red and blue.
Seth has a Tao, the unification of Yin/Yang principle in his stomach, and his the source of his powers.