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Maou
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"Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Fri 27 Nov 17:40:
Estpolis/Lufia fans: the site for the DS "rebirth" of Estpolis is live.
Scream in agony as frumpy Maxim is reduced to a cheap amalgamation of Squall and Cloud with idiotic attitude!
Quake in fear as Selena's talk of the Republican Army and other tired military tropes balloons the game's world from a calculatedly idiotic and simple background outline into an unconsciously idiotic Tales of-esque kludge to get in your way!
Tremble in dread at the billing of the game as yet another "action RPG" instead of as a "brilliantly laid-out puzzle dungeon RPG that Wild Arms tried and failed miserably to copy at least five times!"
Groan in pain as uninspiring voice actor performances draw attention to characters who were never supposed to be anything more than archetypes!
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Actually, the appearance of this site has done a good job of recreating the dread and lamentations that the appearance of the Island of the Void in the sky creates among the populace in the story.
人間はいつも私を驚かせてくれる。不思議なものだな、人間という存在は．．．
[this message was edited by Maou on Fri 27 Nov 18:10]
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whitesword
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"Re(1):Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Sat 28 Nov 02:08
It looks fine to me
EternalNewbie 205th Post
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"Re(1):Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Sat 28 Nov 07:57
While I understand the immense fear coming from the direction the game is taking, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
Also, even though I love Lufia 2 and still play it on occasion, I do wonder how much of this "change" is being brought about not by terms of a redesign but more of technology now allowing them to create what they at first envisioned instead of what we first got and loved. Sometimes a flawed take on a vision ends up being better then what the original vision was, even if the creator may not feel the same.
Amakusa
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"Re(1):Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Sat 28 Nov 08:57
quote: Tremble in dread at the billing of the game as yet another "action RPG" instead of as a "brilliantly laid-out puzzle dungeon RPG that Wild Arms tried and failed miserably to copy at least five times!"
As I told someone else, if the game is even half as fun as Ys, it'll sell in droves.
I found Kagami's sword in a junk yard. I will rule the world and find that truly good cup of coffee. "Dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-do."
Maou
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"Re(2):Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Tue 1 Dec 14:11
quote: I do wonder how much of this "change" is being brought about not by terms of a redesign but more of technology now allowing them to create what they at first envisioned instead of what we first got and loved.
"Re(3):Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Sat 5 Dec 09:59 childhood friend. Oh, so that was the kind of game it was...
Toxico
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"Re(4):Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Sun 3 Jan 03:18:
I don't remember the original games being square soft produced.... Well, maybe this explains why some characters now look so metro-sexual gay that I feel like piercing my hands with a needle.
[this message was edited by Toxico on Sun 3 Jan 04:35]
Maou
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"Re(5):Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Sun 3 Jan 05:02:
Oh, good, now I can get the low-fi Estpolis I of yesteryear together with the hellish eroge-styled "shiny" art that has plagued low-budget releases over the past decade!
I'm trying to think of something more embarrassing than Estpolis' new makeover(s), but I can't. Maybe FF X-2. Maybe.
人間はいつも私を驚かせてくれる。不思議なものだな、人間という存在は．．．
[this message was edited by Maou on Sun 3 Jan 10:45]
Toxico
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"Re(6):Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Sun 3 Jan 06:34
quote:I'm trying to think of something more embarrassing than Estpolis' new makeover, but I can't. Maybe FF X-2. Maybe.
Why don't you try this being changed into this I could try to search for a more detailed comparison (I remember checking some interesting websites in earlier '09) but my eyes are already burnt
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"Re(7):Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Sun 3 Jan 08:44
quote: I'm trying to think of something more embarrassing than Estpolis' new makeover, but I can't. Maybe FF X-2. Maybe.
Why don't you try this being changed into this I could try to search for a more detailed comparison (I remember checking some interesting websites in earlier '09) but my eyes are already burnt
It should be noted that the JP cover art for the game that would become Renegade is pretty far removed from the big-headed style of Kunio that you see in that pic.
Kunio had a pretty generic 80s hero face in that one... though whether you like that 80s more or less than the cheeseball 80s in the Renegade cover is up to you. Whenever I look at it, I'm torn between how much I like the 80s stylings of things like HnK, and the overwhelming cheesiness of things like Death Wish 3.
Amakusa
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"Re(5):Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Tue 12 Jan 17:09
"banquet of woe" , posted Wed 13 Jan 12:48
ようこそ、絶望の宴へ！
I'm glad that Toxico could at least defuse the unending agony of these neo-Estpolis abominations with these...links. Every one of them (including Otokojuku) is in better taste than those character "designs."
人間はいつも私を驚かせてくれる。不思議なものだな、人間という存在は．．．
sfried
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"Re(1):Belts, buckles & zippers!" , posted Wed 13 Jan 17:48
All I have to say is...NOMURAAAAAAAAA!!!
(Yes, I know he doesn't do the character design for every S-E game, much less every metrosexual looking protagonist, but I'd say he started this entire mess by making it trendy.)
A shame considering it was looking like a great action game.
Toxico
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"Re(2):Belts, buckles & zippers!" , posted Tue 16 Feb 08:32
quote: All I have to say is...NOMURAAAAAAAAA!!!
I was thinking on letting this topic just die and sulk into oblivion, but the pain of having a 3ltrs drink into my bare foot quickly reminded me the existence of this game. At nearly less than two weeks of it release, I can feel nothing but the utmost agony when even my eyes attempt to gaze any of the new character designs that can be found in the site. Perhaps everyone was part of some weird race of medusas, and the 16th bit pixel art was not enough to clarify this fact to us.
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"Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Fri 27 Nov 17:40:
"Re(4):Weep in despair at Estpolis DS" , posted Sun 3 Jan 03:18:
