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Burning Ranger 1586th Post
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| "Re(1):Comic books" , posted Sat 10 Jan 13:41
quote: So, I just finished reading Black Summer and Wanted, and was wondering if you guys could recommend good comic books, any kind will do, as long as they're good (I'm looking for miniseries mostly). And please, no Manga.
You'll want to read Kick Ass, which is an interesting take on a realistic youth superhero. Also, the same guy who wrote that is also currently doing the "Old Man Logan" story arc in Wolverine (it's not a mini-series per se, but its still very good).
Also, if it suits your fancy, Green Lantern is getting really good.
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Iron D 3144th Post
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| "Re(1):Comic books" , posted Sat 10 Jan 13:57:
quote: So, I just finished reading Black Summer and Wanted, and was wondering if you guys could recommend good comic books, any kind will do, as long as they're good (I'm looking for miniseries mostly). I was reading Y the last man a few years ago, but I don't know if they ever finished it, and I'm still angry at Marvel for not continuing Supreme Power/Squadron Supreme (the last issue I read was the one with the Redstone Vs Hyperion fight, with Nighthawk and the Blur joining in at the end).
Oh I could suggest a bunch of stuff if you don't care what kind of comics are being suggested.
First, about Y: The Last Man, it was concluded last year. Went up to issue 60, and that last issue was called the greatest single issue of last year by IGN. Haven't read it myself (or any of Y for that matter), but a lot of good things have been said about it.
Now for my recommendations: the first thing that comes to mind is We3. It's a story about a cat, dog and rabbit who are turned into military weapons. It's sad, it's gory, and it's a damn good story. Grant Morrison's the author. 3-issue mini-series that is available in trade format.
I'd also suggest Fell by Warren Ellis. This isn't really a mini, but there only 9 issues out, with the first 8 collected in a trade. Crime noir-ish type story. Very stylized and intriguing.
This one's a no-brainer, but if you haven't yet read Watchmen, you MUST find it somewhere and snatch it up.
Let me end this post by asking what you thought of Wanted. I've already read it, but I'm curious to hear what you thought of it.
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quote: i found all star superman delightful. its 1-12
Oh yeah, and All-Star Batman (where the "Goddamn Batman" quote comes from). You can't go wrong with that (first 6 issues are out in hardcover). The Matt Fraction run of Invincible Iron Man.
Having read the first 5 or6 issues of All Star Batman, I'd say that it was almost complete shit. Miller hasn't been good in years, and not even Jim Lee's art, while great as always, can save it. In fact, it seems that the only way that anyone can enjoy it is looking at it as an unintentionally funny story.
All Star Superman, on the other hand, is great. And this is coming from someone who normally can't stand Supes and loves Bats.
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ONSLAUGHT 3793th Post
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| "Re(2):Comic books" , posted Sun 11 Jan 04:01:
Thanks everyone, I will try to get those books (and if that fails, well, that's why demonoid is back online). As for ASS (damn, what an acronym!), I've never liked Superman, the only good story I've read about him was Red Son.
As for Wanted, I loved it. I thought it was brilliant, like some kind of demented Watchmen (yes, I've read Watchmen many times). And yeah, this is my face while I'm fucking you in the ass! Oh, by the way, how was the wanted movie? bad or utter crap?
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dr baghead 3780th Post
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| "Re(2):Comic books" , posted Sun 11 Jan 05:28
quote: Oh yeah, and All-Star Batman (where the "Goddamn Batman" quote comes from). You can't go wrong with that (first 6 issues are out in hardcover).
Having read the first 5 or6 issues of All Star Batman, I'd say that it was almost complete shit. Miller hasn't been good in years, and not even Jim Lee's art, while great as always, can save it. In fact, it seems that the only way that anyone can enjoy it is looking at it as an unintentionally funny story.
Having read all of All-Star Batman I'd say it's ABSOLUTELY THE BEST BATMAN COMIC EVER.
The humor HAS to be intentional, and if it's read in a big chunk rather then 1 issue every 10 months (I'm kidding of course, they never release them that quick) running gags, and even an over arching story become more clear, so much so I wish they had made the first trade 1-8 and saved 9 for the next one, since it's pretty clear the next few books like 9 and 10 are going to be about the downfall of everything Batman has bulit... re-re-reading "Dark Knight Returns" as well shows some clear linkage between the two (I did the math but forgot the results, I believe it's 30 years between the two series, so it's kinda fun to see what got referenced, like the arcade and the DKR Batmobile being bulit in the background)
ASB is worth reading if you go in with the mind set it's an elseworld, supposed to be funny, and that Frank Miller was NEVER that good of a writer it just seemed better in the 90's
Blanka and Dan make for a most excellent tag image (yeah still not funny) my silly little drawin's
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nobinobita 462th Post
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| "Re(1):Comic books" , posted Sun 11 Jan 09:57
quote: So, I just finished reading Black Summer and Wanted, and was wondering if you guys could recommend good comic books, any kind will do, as long as they're good (I'm looking for miniseries mostly). I was reading Y the last man a few years ago, but I don't know if they ever finished it, and I'm still angry at Marvel for not continuing Supreme Power/Squadron Supreme (the last issue I read was the one with the Redstone Vs Hyperion fight, with Nighthawk and the Blur joining in at the end). And please, no Manga.
I dunno if this is what you're looking for but there have been some really great comics from Europe. Here's a few of my recent favorites:
Sky Doll
Wizard of Oz
Blacksad
In some wonderful twist of fate, all of these comics have been transated into English. They're all top notch.
Skydoll is a fun, sexy sci-fi story with heavy Catholic themes. It's created by an artistic duo with a wide range of influences (they list Okama as one of their favorites so I approve). They got a Disney/Anime vibe going, but with a distinctly European flavor. Think of them as a more skilled version of J. Scott Campbell.
The Wizard of Oz is a virtuoso work by Enrique Fernandez, who is just really goddamn talented. He has an animation background which he fuzes with his classically empowered skills as a painter. Very very very good stuff. Some of teh best cartoony stuff you'll ever see.
Blacksad is a solid Noir story. It feels a little more like a true maudlin black and white movie than most modern revivals of Noir style storytelling. Don't be scared by the animal people. It's not furry. Though if you're into that sort of thing than you'll probably love this as well.
Oh also, check out Massive Swerve, by Robert Valley. Anyone and everyone! Please give it a shot!
He's not widely known though odds are you've seen his work before. Robert Valley is an amazing animator whose done key work on all sorts of awesome projects including:
Aeon Flux Batman Subzero (he storyboarded it) All the Gorillaz Videos Aaliya's debut album Lots of Cereal Commercials Riddick Dark Fury Guitar Hero II comercial Yoshitaka Amano's 1001 Nights
As you can see he's worked all over the globe and has a really awesome, stylish worldy quality to his work. I think he should be a household name in animation, but not very many people know him. But you can buy his self published comic and support his work.
Enjoy dammit!
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makatiel 223th Post
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| "Re(2):Comic books" , posted Sun 11 Jan 23:17:
quote: Having read the first 5 or6 issues of All Star Batman, I'd say that it was almost complete shit. Miller hasn't been good in years, and not even Jim Lee's art, while great as always, can save it. In fact, it seems that the only way that anyone can enjoy it is looking at it as an unintentionally funny story.
All Star Superman, on the other hand, is great. And this is coming from someone who normally can't stand Supes and loves Bats.
Is ASB the one with Robin in it? I read a couple of issues of it, then wept because Miller' writing is so damn juvenile. I used to love the guy and now I'm wondering if maybe he's mentally handicapped. What makes it worse is how much I still love Jim Lee's art.
A great series you should definitely read is Fables. Also, if you haven't already, you should pick up X-Statix, which has sadly ended. Finally, I've been reading Invincible and that's quite good too.
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Iron D 3146th Post
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| "Re(3):Comic books" , posted Sun 11 Jan 23:43
quote: Is ASB the one with Robin in it? I read a couple of issues of it, then wept because Miller' writing is so damn juvenile. I used to love the guy and now I'm wondering if maybe he's mentally handicapped. What makes it worse is how much I still love Jim Lee's art.
A great series you should definitely read is Fables. Also, if you haven't already, you should pick up X-Statix, which has sadly ended. Finally, I've been reading Invincible and that's quite good too.
Regarding ASB, that's the one.
Otherwise, I gotta say that you're a man after my own heart. You mentioned 2 of my 3 favorite ongoing series in one post. I would have suggested these to Onsie, if he hadn't said that he preferred minis.
Fables and Invincible do both kick all kinds of ass. I'm about to read the 11th trade of Fables (which is about the war between Fabletown and the Empire), and the 8th trade of Invincible (which...well I'm not sure what it's about yet...).
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Iron D 3147th Post
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| "Re(5):Comic books" , posted Mon 12 Jan 16:58
quote:
Iron D, something I recently enjoyed also (especially for the art), was Madame Mirage, by Paul Dini (who I'm sure you've heard of) and some newcomer to comics Kenneth Rocafort. Maybe take a look at it the next time you are in a comic store.
I have heard of it, but you are the first person to recommend it to me. Is it a mini or an ongoing, and is it available in trade format? Paul Dini can be hit or miss...Detective Comics right now is pretty decent, but Countdown to Final Crisis was complete and utter shit.
quote: I just read this, and damn, it's a vey sad story... I don't know, but for some reason, it brought a tear to my eye.
Yeah, I got a little emotional too. At least the ending is, for the most part, a happy one.
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Time Mage 2753th Post
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| "Re(9):Comic books" , posted Tue 13 Jan 01:55
quote: i loved 52. you could also try that. 4 volumes.
The problem with 52 is that the ending is totally stupid. There's so many awesome things in the middle that I was expecting something even greater in the end... Just to find it's the crap we've seen before with a facelift.
Really? You thought the ending was stupid? I liked it, as it was COMPLETELY out of left field and there was no indication that 52 was headed in that direction at all.
52 was definitely slow at times, but for the most part was an enjoyable read. And it was of course sooooooooo much better than Countdown.
I actually found 52 very enjoyable, indeed. But the final twist was, in my opinion, quite stupid. Yeah, it was unexpected an all, but I just don't like the way it just
Spoiler (Highlight to view) - returned to the multiverse.
End of Spoiler
Well, to be honest, I didn't like the Crisis event that lead to it either. I'm a fan of more intimate stories, so comics that consist of splash pages of all the heroes in the world uniting their efforts in a desperate struggle against an unthinkably powerful enemy aren't usually my cup of tea... I am digressing a bit, am I? What I mean is that most events in 52 were not that epic, but rather centered around certain characters, as D'Cloud points out, and that's what I liked. But when in the end,
Spoiler (Highlight to view) - you find that this is an epic fight to save not the universe, but all 52 realities that were left from Luthor's manipulation in the Crisis...
End of Spoiler
Things get out of hand and get pretty stupid in a moment, in my opinion.
"News flash big guy: You can wax on wax off all you want I'm still... KICKIN' YOUR ASS!"
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makatiel 225th Post
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| "Re(6):Comic books" , posted Tue 13 Jan 04:03:
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Iron D, something I recently enjoyed also (especially for the art), was Madame Mirage, by Paul Dini (who I'm sure you've heard of) and some newcomer to comics Kenneth Rocafort. Maybe take a look at it the next time you are in a comic store.
I have heard of it, but you are the first person to recommend it to me. Is it a mini or an ongoing, and is it available in trade format? Paul Dini can be hit or miss...Detective Comics right now is pretty decent, but Countdown to Final Crisis was complete and utter shit.
I haven't read too much of Paul Dini's non-Detective Comics stuff, but when I saw this I thought I might was well pick it up and see. I liked it generally, but what I really liked was the art and just Madame Mirage's "look".
Rocafort's art was very nice. It's not as technical as Jim Lee and not really as flared and exciting as Bill Sinkievicz (sp?), but kind of somewhere in between - maybe like a really toned down, non-crack addicted Jae Lee. Of course some panels look better than others.
Anyway, I'd easily recommend you to at least take a look at the art, preferably before you buy. If you share my taste in artists (Jim Lee, Joe Mad, Alan Davis, old Arthur Adams, Bill Sinkievicz, old Dale Keown, others...), you may like this guy Rocafort.
BTW, I forgot to ask and you never mentioned... what's the third series that you really enjoy, other than Fables and Invincible? If it's something I don't read now, I'd love to pick it up and see.
EDIT: I just remembered one more series to recommend: Preacher. Awesome, ridiculous, raunchy, bad-taste, low-brow, disgusting fun.
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Iron D 3150th Post
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| "Re(7):Comic books" , posted Tue 13 Jan 16:04
quote: I haven't read too much of Paul Dini's non-Detective Comics stuff, but when I saw this I thought I might was well pick it up and see. I liked it generally, but what I really liked was the art and just Madame Mirage's "look".
Rocafort's art was very nice. It's not as technical as Jim Lee and not really as flared and exciting as Bill Sinkievicz (sp?), but kind of somewhere in between - maybe like a really toned down, non-crack addicted Jae Lee. Of course some panels look better than others.
Anyway, I'd easily recommend you to at least take a look at the art, preferably before you buy. If you share my taste in artists (Jim Lee, Joe Mad, Alan Davis, old Arthur Adams, Bill Sinkievicz, old Dale Keown, others...), you may like this guy Rocafort.
Sure. I'll take a look once I get some cash, but I have to ask again: is it a mini or an ongoing, and is it collected in any trades yet?
quote: BTW, I forgot to ask and you never mentioned... what's the third series that you really enjoy, other than Fables and Invincible? If it's something I don't read now, I'd love to pick it up and see.
EDIT: I just remembered one more series to recommend: Preacher. Awesome, ridiculous, raunchy, bad-taste, low-brow, disgusting fun.
That would be The Goon. The way you just described Preacher? I'd describe The Goon the same way, except that I would add that it's also one of the most consistently funny comics I've ever read. It's definitely dark humor. Eric Powell's art is pretty consistently awesome, and the stories run the complete gamut of emotions from sad to hilarious. The character development is consistent and well done, and the book has the greatest cast of characters I can think of outside of my other big two.
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I'm a fan of more intimate stories, so comics that consist of splash pages of all the heroes in the world uniting their efforts in a desperate struggle against an unthinkably powerful enemy aren't usually my cup of tea...
Well Time Mage, based on your comment here, I can see hw you wouldn't like the ending. The bulk of 52 was these smaller scale character development stories that you talked about, but by the end it had turned into one of the larger scale splash page type of deals.
In fact, based on what you said here, I'd highly suggest Goon to you as well. It's chock full of character development, and isn't one of those two-page spread big event type books.
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dr baghead 3782th Post
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| "Re(3):Comic books" , posted Fri 6 Feb 22:43
quote: Having read the first 5 or6 issues of All Star Batman, I'd say that it was almost complete shit. Miller hasn't been good in years, and not even Jim Lee's art, while great as always, can save it. In fact, it seems that the only way that anyone can enjoy it is looking at it as an unintentionally funny story.
Having read all of All-Star Batman I'd say it's ABSOLUTELY THE BEST BATMAN COMIC EVER.
The humor HAS to be intentional, and if it's read in a big chunk rather then 1 issue every 10 months (I'm kidding of course, they never release them that quick) running gags, and even an over arching story become more clear, so much so I wish they had made the first trade 1-8 and saved 9 for the next one, since it's pretty clear the next few books like 9 and 10 are going to be about the downfall of everything Batman has bulit... re-re-reading "Dark Knight Returns" as well shows some clear linkage between the two (I did the math but forgot the results, I believe it's 30 years between the two series, so it's kinda fun to see what got referenced, like the arcade and the DKR Batmobile being bulit in the background)
ASB is worth reading if you go in with the mind set it's an elseworld, supposed to be funny, and that Frank Miller was NEVER that good of a writer it just seemed better in the 90's
I just found and read a copy of "The Dark Knight Strikes Again" and as I was hoping it adds another level to "All-Star Batman"
The amount of call backs is great...
Spoiler (Highlight to view) - I love that Hal's line of "You were right Bruce; We're criminals, We were always criminals, We HAVE to be criminals" in DKSA is actually spoke to him by Bruce in All-Star Batman
And although unrelated the fact someone in DKSA says "He's the goddamn President and he can do whatever he goddamn wants!" is very similar to Batman's line "I'm goddamn batman and I call my car whatever I goddamn want!" proves Miller is aware he's writting comedy
End of Spoiler
I'm rather upset there's no news on when issue #11 is comic out (are they waiting for more art from Jim? There's mention Frank turned in scripts while working on the Spirit so they MUST have at least a couple more of those to work on... I heard All-Star Supes ended, are they waiting for All-Star Wonder Woman/GL/Batgirl to start before continuing Batman? Or are the All-Star Books just canceled and I haven't found out yet?)
Blanka and Dan make for a most excellent tag image (yeah still not funny) my silly little drawin's
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