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"Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Fri 27 Jun 12:29post reply

Pros:
Wii! :)
Fighting game! :)
Simon, Alucard, Dracula, and Maria announced, with more to come! :)
Iga pushing the boundaries of the series to try something completely new and different! :)

Cons:
Character designs :( :( :( :(
(see for yourself...)

I get the feeling that this project was directly inspired by Dissidia, even the premise is similar. The main difference of course being that Dissidia's chara designs are slavishly faithful to Amano's originals (for the charas that Amano designed, anyway), and that these ones spit in the face of Ayami Kojima and every other artist in CV's history. Discuss!






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"Re(1):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Fri 27 Jun 15:18post reply

wait...what?





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"Re(1):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Fri 27 Jun 16:39post reply

wait...what?





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"Re(2):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Fri 27 Jun 16:58post reply

What? wait...

{...

Are the designs Takeshi Obata's?
Or at least, someone who tries to imitate him...





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"Re(3):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Fri 27 Jun 17:11:post reply

What the...?

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Are the designs Takeshi Obata's?
Or at least, someone who tries to imitate him...


I think you're right, those designs, specially Maria's, remind me a lot of his style. And I wouldn't count the designs as bad at all: Everyone except Alucard is excellent, specially Simon and Maria. Alucard looks a bit strange, that's undeniable. I would have loved to see him there in a suit as Arikado. The in-game models are not that good, sadly.

Anyway, this looks "wait, what?" and promising, at the same time!





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"Re(4):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Fri 27 Jun 17:23post reply

This looks retardumb.





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"Re(5):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Fri 27 Jun 18:09post reply

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This looks retardumb.

The FF dissidia curse is spreading...






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"Re(5):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Fri 27 Jun 18:14post reply

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I think you're right, those designs, specially Maria's, remind me a lot of his style. And I wouldn't count the designs as bad at all: Everyone except Alucard is excellent, specially Simon and Maria. Alucard looks a bit strange, that's undeniable. I would have loved to see him there in a suit as Arikado. The in-game models are not that good, sadly.

Anyway, this looks "what, what?" and promising, at the same time!



Simon's design, good? But, but... Those clothes! Ack!
Shorts!

Also, I've also wanted to play as Arikado (as in, with the suit) for quite long now. Stylish!
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quote:
This looks retardumb.



I agree and I don't.

Given IGA's insistence in that he didn't want to make an action game for the Wii that consisted in whipping around all the time because it'd get tiresome, I'm glad they found a way out of it.
Now you can have wiimote whip control, and only for short periods of time, while the fight lasts.
So in that sense it might be a good idea.

I also agree with shindekudasai that they're at least trying new things...

But then, it ends up being a fanservice-ish, technically low-profile 3D fighting game (since it is for the Wii, who cares about doing graphics right, blahblah), Dissidia wannabe, with whacky character designs.
In that part, yes, it looks retardumb. :(





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"Re(5):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Fri 27 Jun 18:16post reply

God? Santa? I don't care who's listening. Just SOMEONE, can we have unlockable costumes for Christmas? I promise to be a good boy and share this gift with the rest of the world. I mean, I wouldn't wish Simon's outfit on my worst enemy.

Well ... maybe Gackt. He'd get a kick out of it.





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"Re(2):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Fri 27 Jun 22:05post reply

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wait...what?


... ?
I can honestly say I didn't see this one coming. The shot of the zombies cheering/moaning in the background is particularly odd.





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"Re(3):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Fri 27 Jun 22:23post reply

quote:
wait...what?

... ?
I can honestly say I didn't see this one coming. The shot of the zombies cheering/moaning in the background is particularly odd.



Not sure if they're just there for "cheering"/atrezzo (admittedly that'd be awkwardly funny, though), apparently monsters will enter the fight and attack/bother you or whatever.





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"Re(1):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Sat 28 Jun 02:27post reply

Ouch.

Is it just me, or does Dracula have small cannons built in to his clothing?





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"Re(2):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Sat 28 Jun 02:30post reply

quote:
Ouch.

Is it just me, or does Dracula have small cannons built in to his clothing?



It's not just you. Personally I don't mind the look of Drac's armor so much, but did they have to make it gold? He looks, well, silly. And Maria looks like she's getting ready to join the Valis girls.





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"Re(3):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Sat 28 Jun 03:14post reply

I... like what I see! It really looks like Obata is handling the designs. I like Simon's design! I'll have to blame Visual Kei for that, though. But anyways, he's just a stylish redesign of Castlevania Chronicles Simon, who by the way wears shorts too. Doesn't the original wear some too?

Alucard doesn't look quite right, I have to agree with that.





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"Re(4):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Sat 28 Jun 04:02post reply

This is such a terrible idea that I'm starting to like it.

...kinda.





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"Re(4):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Sat 28 Jun 04:06:post reply

WAT?

Following the amazing success of FF Dissidia, it's...heywait, Dissidia didn't get canceled? Unusual tactic given that no one gives two damns about Dissidia, and Final Fantasy is leaps beyond any popularity Dracula has achieved in Japan of late. Usual tactic in that they've gotten yet another...questionable character designer in an attempt to get people to like the series. Has sort of that "no job too dirty"/"we're really desperate" feel to it with the annual designer changes...

On the other hand, red hair shorts Chronicles Simon by Kojima is AWESOME. I mean it.





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"Re(2):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Sat 28 Jun 05:08post reply

quote:
Ouch.

Is it just me, or does Dracula have small cannons built in to his clothing?


Dracula looks like a Golden Milking Machine, no question about it. "What is a man?" indeed.





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"Re(3):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Sat 28 Jun 06:00post reply

LOL, gayest Simon ever!!!! I must admit he looks kinda cool, but I still prefer the original Chronicles one (whose portrait IkariDC boldly posted before).

Also, Dracula looks terrible (in a wrong way), Maria seems to come straight from a brothel and Alucard... well, let's say I wouldn't like to go there, for obvious reasons...

From what other cafers point out about its gameplay, the game, albeit a bit simple for a VS fighter, could end up being quite entertaining. How sad that, from all the consoles on the market, the one which get the highest sales (and highest number of releases) is, ironically, the only prev-gen one...





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"Re(4):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Sat 28 Jun 06:18post reply

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the one which get the highest sales (and highest number of releases) is, ironically, the only prev-gen one...

Heh, I look forward to staying in the 32-bit gen in perpetuity with DS.





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"Re(4):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Sat 28 Jun 08:12post reply

quote:
I... like what I see! It really looks like Obata is handling the designs. I like Simon's design! I'll have to blame Visual Kei for that, though. But anyways, he's just a stylish redesign of Castlevania Chronicles Simon, who by the way wears shorts too. Doesn't the original wear some too?

Alucard doesn't look quite right, I have to agree with that.



I think Chronicles/Judgement Simon's shorts is just used as a lesser evil to the original's barbarian underwear/skirt combo.

Also the art isn't too bad, just doesn't seem to translate into 3D very well. Or better to say Iga's castlevania team can't translate anything into 3D all that well. It was never their strong suit.





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"Re(5):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Mon 30 Jun 13:07post reply

If this was a non Castlevania game I'd find these designs quite good. But for what's supposed to be a fan service game these designs are pretty darn horrible.

Besides, I think this will be like Soul Calibur Legends. It'd be better and cheaper if Iga just decided to make a new Castelvania using NES graphics.





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"Re(6):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Mon 30 Jun 17:21post reply

This game is not very promising at all. Obata draw the characters with too much interpretation...they don't fit the "gothic" style of the series. They look like a cross between emo and visual-k style, not definitely my kind of Castlevania image.
I call the UGLY Maria Obata version: is basically Misa Misa cosplaying some sailor moon-esque heroine...to to mention Simon, that has become a monstrous tranny thing....and Dracula, ugh! It resembles some rejected World Heroes design or some snk-ish cheapy boss (Zero, Goodman, etc).
Lame, really lame.





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"Re(6):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Tue 1 Jul 00:07post reply

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Besides, I think this will be like Soul Calibur Legends. It'd be better and cheaper if Iga just decided to make a new Castelvania using NES graphics.



Like that new megaman game with NES graphics they announced for the wiiware? (Anyone excited about that?)





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"Re(7):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Tue 1 Jul 02:11post reply

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(Anyone excited about that?)


Yes, in that other thread over there with Rockman or Megaman in the title.





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"Re(1):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Tue 1 Jul 02:37post reply

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Cons:
Character designs :( :( :( :(
(see for yourself...)



Simon and Dracula look okay, IMO. My problem is with Alucard (too cosplayish) and Maria (who looks like a loli-prostitute). But maybe they look better in action.

But this game doesn't take place in the official chronology, does it? I thought Simon was dead long before Maria was even born... If it's just a dream-match, here's hoping for Richter, Julius Belmont, Soma Cruz, Sonia Belmont (most underrated CV heroine ever) and Eric Lecarde!





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"Re(2):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Tue 1 Jul 12:10post reply

This game screams "8ing".

And with Konami buying up the Takara/Tomy bunch recently, I could see them putting 8ing to work, doing a game like this.

Hell, 8ing possibly being behind it is probably the ONLY reason I'm actually willing to give this game a decent chance.





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"Re(3):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Tue 1 Jul 13:05post reply

My god... just why did they want to use the little girl version of Maria? The older Maria would've suited me fine, but they go and put this loli-trash in.





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"Re(4):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Tue 1 Jul 13:51post reply

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My god... just why did they want to use the little girl version of Maria? The older Maria would've suited me fine, but they go and put this loli-trash in.



Probably because a) lil Maria is much more "iconic" than her older counter-part and b) She probably stands to be the only "loli" in this game.

I mean, unless they REALLY reach back and utilize some one like Carrie from the N64 game, there's only but so many little girls in the CV series that they can use. So they might as well go with the one that people have come to expect to fill that role, I guess.

And honestly, I could care less, as long as there would be at least a few "grown-ass" women to be had any way. Yoko, Charlotte and/or Sypha would be pretty obvious picks, but I would also give a hoot if "villainous females" like Elizabeth Bartley, Carmilla, the Succubus and/or the "twins" (as vampires) got in, as well.





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"Re(5):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Tue 1 Jul 14:08post reply

quote:
My god... just why did they want to use the little girl version of Maria? The older Maria would've suited me fine, but they go and put this loli-trash in.


Probably because a) lil Maria is much more "iconic" than her older counter-part and b) She probably stands to be the only "loli" in this game.

I mean, unless they REALLY reach back and utilize some one like Carrie from the N64 game, there's only but so many little girls in the CV series that they can use. So they might as well go with the one that people have come to expect to fill that role, I guess.



I await the moment they announce Death so I can plan a way to cleave her in two.

Speaking of which, the game seems to be giving off a Soul Calibur vibe. And probably won't have any of the 'cleaving in two' action, either.





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"Re(6):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Tue 1 Jul 18:24post reply

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Speaking of which, the game seems to be giving off a Soul Calibur vibe.

I think it will end up much closer to "Samurai Spirits Sen".





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"Re(3):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Tue 1 Jul 18:36post reply

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Hell, 8ing possibly being behind it is probably the ONLY reason I'm actually willing to give this game a decent chance.



If this were the case, I'd also be willing to give it a fair shot! I love the Gekitou Ninja Taisen games. However, until we know one way or another I will continue to mock it in the meantime!





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"Re(4):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Fri 4 Jul 23:09post reply

I'm only looking forward for this because of the soundtrack. New Castlevania remixes are always welcome.





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"Re(5):Castlevania: Judgement" , posted Thu 10 Jul 13:39post reply

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New Castlevania remixes are always welcome.
Except when they're the same boring Vampire Killer and Bloody Tears remixes in every single game.





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