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"New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Thu 29 May 21:52post reply

Iggy was quite right in noting that the previous SF4 thread had become puffy and that a new listing was in order.

To start things off 1Up reads the latest issue of Famitsu. El Fuerte's Propeller Tortilla and the North American debut of the SF4 television commercial are discussed. Speaking of which, streetfighter.com has a countdown running.






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"Re(1):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Thu 29 May 22:11post reply

It also give us some details on Rufus's story (Seth's one was already pointed out). So he claims to be America's #1 fighter and wants to beat Ken. Unless SFIII is retconned out of the SF continuity (which I hope that does NOT happen), I guess Rufus never managed to do so...

Wasn't the game supposed to be released on July? The 1UP news doesn't give an exact release date for it... could it be that the arcade version was delayed so they can add extra content (like, I don't know... other NEW characters?)? I definitely wouldn't mind if it was released just in December, as long as it means more improvements...





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"More pics of El Fuerte, Rufus and Seth" , posted Fri 30 May 02:02:post reply

Thanks to Famistu.

El Fuerte looks nice, Rufus is the sexiest character in SFIV (jokes aside, he looks much better than he was looking at his first loketest appearance). And Seth, besides fighting completely nude, has a belt (which we've already seen) with a yin-yang symbol in it. I wonder if it interferes in his fighting style.

Plus, one screenshot shows what seems to be his intro cutscene, so it's probably safe to assume he's the last boss now...

(and I may be seeing things, but his sweep attack reminds me of Gill and Urien...)





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"Re(1):More pics of El Fuerte, Rufus and Seth" , posted Fri 30 May 02:46post reply

wow, seth looks like he fights a lot like urien and gill.





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"Re(1):More pics of El Fuerte, Rufus and Seth" , posted Fri 30 May 02:48post reply

Somehow I get the feeling that the original idea of Gill using light and darkness in his attacks has been implemented in Seth.





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"Re(2):More pics of El Fuerte, Rufus and Seth" , posted Fri 30 May 04:34post reply

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"Re(2):More pics of El Fuerte, Rufus and Seth" , posted Fri 30 May 05:21post reply

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Somehow I get the feeling that the original idea of Gill using light and darkness in his attacks has been implemented in Seth.



Could Seth be Gill's predecessor as the leader of that Illuminati-like order of his? Thus, including him in SFIV would make a lot of sense, in case Capcom were intending to strengthen the franchise's plot...

I always found the boss transition between SFII and SFIII (from Vega/Bison to Gill) too sudden and drastic, as if there were many things unexplained in between both games' storyline, a sort of missing link whose absence left the whole canon severely crippled. Perhaps that's what Capcom intends to solve by including this Seth character now...





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"Re(3):More pics of El Fuerte, Rufus and Seth" , posted Fri 30 May 05:28post reply

As a note, the throw Seth is doing is also Urien's neutral throw.





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"Re(3):More pics of El Fuerte, Rufus and Seth" , posted Fri 30 May 05:56post reply

I really, really hope that Seth and SIN or whatever somehow tie into Shadowloo having Illuminati connections and... yeah. I have no clue how they plan to do this, but the charge and the throw have me convinced that there's some kind of connection! Do it, Capcom! Throw SF3 fans a bone!

Bastards have actually made me really look forward to this game. I'm pretty much at the opposite end of how I felt when the first shots were revealed. Impressive!





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"Re(3):More pics of El Fuerte, Rufus and Seth" , posted Fri 30 May 06:14post reply

quote:
Somehow I get the feeling that the original idea of Gill using light and darkness in his attacks has been implemented in Seth.


Could Seth be Gill's predecessor as the leader of that Illuminati-like order of his? Thus, including him in SFIV would make a lot of sense, in case Capcom were intending to strengthen the franchise's plot...

I always found the boss transition between SFII and SFIII (from Vega/Bison to Gill) too sudden and drastic, as if there were many things unexplained in between both games' storyline, a sort of missing link whose absence left the whole canon severely crippled. Perhaps that's what Capcom intends to solve by including this Seth character now...



Oh man, that's a great hypothesis! Now if Seth doesn't turn out to be the link between SFII and III i'll be really disappointed.





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"Re(1):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Fri 30 May 10:17post reply

Yeah, Seth has the throw, the tackle and the leg sweep. He's either a Gill/Urien prototype or has the ability to mimic fighting styles/abilities.

I'm keen on him being a prototype. Wasn't it also noted that he disliked being a spare body for Bison/Vega?





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"Re(2):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Fri 30 May 16:32post reply

So, what's the big news Capcom should bring us today? The new site maybe? The trailer during the fighting match? Or the lame preorder by shitty gamestop?





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"Re(2):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Fri 30 May 18:31post reply

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I'm keen on him being a prototype. Wasn't it also noted that he disliked being a spare body for Bison/Vega?



A spare body for Dictator? This would also explain how Bison managed to survive yet again.





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"Re(3):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Fri 30 May 22:27post reply

The home page has been updated. The arcade section now features Rufus and Seth. The new home version section features teaser shots of Fei Long and Dan as well as shots from an animated sequence that features what looks like Gouken.





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"Re(4):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Sat 31 May 05:38:post reply

Now that I think about it, originally, Gill's colour palette was supposed to be black and white (yin and yang). However, Capcom wanted to show off the power of the CPS-III board by replacing the black and white colour scheme with eye catching red and blue colour scheme (justifying it by pyrokinesis and cyrokinesis properties).

So we will be fighting the original idea for Gill with some modifications.

Oh yeah, Illuminati can also be used as "the puppet masters."
Which could also mean that the organization that Gill/Urien/Seth are apart of (Illuminati) are/were actually controlling Vega's/M.Bison's Shadowlaw/Shadowloo/whatever.
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"Re(5):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Sun 1 Jun 10:25post reply

I hope somebody knows....
I'm gonna ask again, has anybody heard the music in this game? How is it? What type of music etc?





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"Re(5):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Sun 1 Jun 10:32post reply

quote:
Now that I think about it, originally, Gill's colour palette was supposed to be black and white (yin and yang). However, Capcom wanted to show off the power of the CPS-III board by replacing the black and white colour scheme with eye catching red and blue colour scheme (justifying it by pyrokinesis and cyrokinesis properties).



The second time I read this somewhere, I vaguely remember something like that too but it's hardly a demonstration of power to switch two colors... that's a pallete swap.

What they wanted to show of is that the character actually has two sides and because you could easily miss that on a normal character, they chose to color those two sides differently and change the appearence of his moves depending on which side you see.





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"Re(6):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Sun 1 Jun 18:37post reply

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The second time I read this somewhere, I vaguely remember something like that too but it's hardly a demonstration of power to switch two colors... that's a pallete swap.

Yay, finally someone who recognizes that a palette swap isn't a particularly impressive technical feat. I've actually talked to people who believed Gill to have twice the amount of frames of all the other characters. :o





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"Re(7):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Sun 1 Jun 19:55post reply

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"Re(8):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Mon 2 Jun 22:36post reply

FYI, the wildly overdone page for streetfigher.com is now open. Highlights include the US commerical, a section where you can e-mail Ono, and several character bios. Some interesting nuggets were included in the bios, such as that Bison and Shadaloo were destroyed in SF2 and that Zangief is entering SF4 "to keep his promise to his beloved child and prove that he is the strongest man in the world." Huh?!?





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"Re(9):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Mon 2 Jun 23:21post reply

quote:
FYI, the wildly overdone page for streetfigher.com is now open. Highlights include the US commerical, a section where you can e-mail Ono, and several character bios. Some interesting nuggets were included in the bios, such as that Bison and Shadaloo were destroyed in SF2 and that Zangief is entering SF4 "to keep his promise to his beloved child and prove that he is the strongest man in the world." Huh?!?



So we can send emails to Ono... let's hope the SFIV haters don't find out about this, or he'll be crushed.

Zangief's beloved child... is he a father now? Tiamat's FAQ suggested Zangief might be gay, but who knows...

And he claims to be the strongest man in the world. Is this some kind of response to Chun-Li's claim of being the strongest woman in the world?

Anyway, good news!





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"Re(10):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Tue 3 Jun 02:21post reply

Zangief's child is mentioned in his Japanese bio, too... so he's bisexual, maybe?

I'm just glad it doesn't seem like SF2 was completely retconned as much as was suspected.





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"Re(2):Re(10):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Tue 3 Jun 04:09post reply

Zangief was never RAINBOWGAY, his lack of interest in women was just pointed out regularly. That's all. Zangief not having any kind of sexuality was fine with me, really.





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"Re(3):Re(10):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Tue 3 Jun 04:59post reply

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Zangief was never RAINBOWGAY, his lack of interest in women was just pointed out regularly. That's all. Zangief not having any kind of sexuality was fine with me, really.


I always figured that Zangief had moved beyond the concept of sexuality. Companionship and reproduction are things that only mortals are concerned with.





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"Re(4):Re(10):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Tue 3 Jun 09:37post reply

quote:
Zangief was never RAINBOWGAY, his lack of interest in women was just pointed out regularly. That's all. Zangief not having any kind of sexuality was fine with me, really.

I always figured that Zangief had moved beyond the concept of sexuality. Companionship and reproduction are things that only mortals are concerned with.



Communists are not sexual
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"Re(4):Re(10):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Tue 3 Jun 09:37post reply

ZANGIEF MUST BE GAY!!!!!!!!!

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"Re(5):Re(10):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Tue 3 Jun 11:07post reply

There is a Guile Vs Abel trailer on the official site now. Not the best, but okay.

The Japanese profile of Zangief made it sound like that the children of Russia adored him, not that he had a child of his own.





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"Re(6):Re(10):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Tue 3 Jun 17:24post reply

Actually, the Tiamat FAQ said that Zangief didn't like pretty women...or something like that. In any case, it said that he didn't like a specific type of woman rather than saying he didn't like women at all.





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"Re(7):Re(10):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Tue 3 Jun 19:51post reply

I have no clue what one of those cutscenes on the official site is supposed to depict. So let us make up aprox 100 words or so theories of what it could be, instead of just saying "new boss" or if you insist, you can even say "akuma", but I think every possibility for Zangief's sexuality has already been said. So yeah.





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"Re(8):Re(10):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Wed 4 Jun 00:01:post reply

An absurd amount of new videos, pictures and general info is coming out. Details include animated endings and the news that Capcom re-did the hit detection so it is now done using 2D-style hitboxes.

EDIT: Gamewatch gets in on the act.





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"New stuff" , posted Wed 4 Jun 00:06post reply

Interview with Ono


Features the fab four bosses, the new kids on the block, and an annoying announcer





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"Re(1):New stuff" , posted Wed 4 Jun 04:42post reply

The website now announces yet another loketest in Tokyo on 6/6-6/8. I guess the previous one wasn't the last one after all.





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"Re(2):New stuff" , posted Wed 4 Jun 08:10post reply

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The website now announces yet another loketest in Tokyo on 6/6-6/8. I guess the previous one wasn't the last one after all.



Yes, but Ono confirmed that the game's arcade version has already gone gold. So the loketest will probably show the final version of the game.

After complaining a lot, I'm satisfied with the 16 characters + 1 boss we got, so it's okay if they're the only characters in SFIV. But I wonder if there's any possibility that Akuma isn't the only secret character in the game...





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"Re(9):Re(10):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Wed 4 Jun 09:45post reply

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Details include animated endings and the news that Capcom re-did the hit detection so it is now done using 2D-style hitboxes.



Unfortunately, Capcom hasn't redone the throws to be single-button. At least they're SF3-like instead of SFZ3-like.





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"Re(10):Re(10):New SF4 Thread: Giant Attack" , posted Wed 4 Jun 16:03post reply

Amen to that!





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