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"Bionic Command Rearmed" , posted Fri 18 Jan 10:04post reply

In case you don't know, Capcom is remaking the original NES Bionic Commando...for Xbox Live Arcade

http://kotaku.com/346211/bionic-commando-rearmed-in-motion

I feel 50% excited, 50% undecided. It tries to be the NES game...but something about the way it moves. I'd buy it though, if I was on XBL.





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"Re(1):Bionic Command Rearmed" , posted Fri 18 Jan 10:11post reply

Okay, that does look good. Now thats how you make a re-make. I'd pay $30-40 for that game. It needs to go mult-platform.





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"Re(2):Bionic Command Rearmed" , posted Fri 18 Jan 10:35post reply

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Okay, that does look good. Now thats how you make a re-make. I'd pay $30-40 for that game. It needs to go mult-platform.



PS3 and 360 so far... not a bad start.

I like the new moves so far... I'm actually more excited about this than the follow-up sequel.





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"Re(3):Bionic Command Rearmed" , posted Fri 18 Jan 11:52post reply

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I like the new moves so far... I'm actually more excited about this than the follow-up sequel.

Heh heh heh, yeah. Pretty much what I was thinking. "Wow, I'm actually interested in this... instead of that goofy Predator braid monster swinging like Spider-Man..."





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"Re(4):Bionic Command Rearmed" , posted Fri 18 Jan 18:03post reply

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I like the new moves so far... I'm actually more excited about this than the follow-up sequel.
Heh heh heh, yeah. Pretty much what I was thinking. "Wow, I'm actually interested in this... instead of that goofy Predator braid monster swinging like Spider-Man..."



Don't forget the hot-dog bionic arm. Another entry into the "What were they thinking category?" category, which will be put adjacent to the first SFIV screenshot of Ryu's dong and the game based on the live-action Street Fighter movie.





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"Re(5):Bionic Command Rearmed" , posted Fri 18 Jan 21:28post reply

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Don't forget the hot-dog bionic arm. Another entry into the "What were they thinking category?" category, which will be put adjacent to the first SFIV screenshot of Ryu's dong and the game based on the live-action Street Fighter movie.



If I remember correctly, the Rearmed version still has the "Hot dog" arm. Toward the end, where you see the conceptual drawing, you see the arm has green "hot dogs." Of course, us tech-minded people see the "Hot dogs" as cables.





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"Re(6):Bionic Command Rearmed" , posted Sun 20 Jan 20:42post reply

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Of course, us tech-minded people see the "Hot dogs" as cables.



Haha...that's quite the burn! Personally though, I think the guy's name should BE "Hotdog".

Remake looks fantastic to me. I don't mean like...visually it looks fantastic, but it looks fantastic as a product and as a treat to Bionic Commando fans. (whereas the new game is mostly just confusing to everyone)

I normally hate "polygons in 2D" games, but seeing as the original didn't look very interesting and this will probably be extremely inexpensive and include the original, I would have to be trying pretty hard to find something to complain about.





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"Re(7):Bionic Command Rearmed" , posted Sun 20 Jan 21:08post reply

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Haha...that's quite the burn! Personally though, I think the guy's name should BE "Hotdog".

Remake looks fantastic to me. I don't mean like...visually it looks fantastic, but it looks fantastic as a product and as a treat to Bionic Commando fans. (whereas the new game is mostly just confusing to everyone)

I normally hate "polygons in 2D" games, but seeing as the original didn't look very interesting and this will probably be extremely inexpensive and include the original, I would have to be trying pretty hard to find something to complain about.



I'm liking it because it seems to move fast. I hope it's not clunky, like 2D-to-3D remakes tend to be. I love the lighting, though... good job on setting the mood effectively with that.

Polly, that girl in your avatar... she's in some kid's show here in Japan, isn't she? It's like Power Rangers in America. She's prooty hot...





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"Re(8):Bionic Command Rearmed" , posted Mon 21 Jan 11:51post reply

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Polly, that girl in your avatar... she's in some kid's show here in Japan, isn't she? It's like Power Rangers in America. She's prooty hot...



Yeah, it's called "Gekiranger". It's the first Super Sentai show I've really gotten into in years. The robots are still lame, but they use martial arts to do all their moves and it has a fairly serious ongoing plot as well as an abnormally high number of attractive people.

Too bad the new one (Go-Onger) looks kinda...poor and kiddy.

I'm like a pro at bringing off-topic discussions.





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"Re(9): Thread Derailer Rearmed" , posted Mon 21 Jan 12:27:post reply

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I'm like a pro at bringing off-topic discussions.
And lately I'm an enabler. Let me get my revenge for my derailed Miyazawa Kenji topic (I found what I hear a good translation to give to someone) by asking more about my man Sakaguchi's Lost Odyssey and how it's so (last disc aside) wonderful that I should brave a Japanese xbox360 and follow Fred's advice get a warranty from somewhere big like Bic Camera and wander around the world with it to places where it would be far too expensive to return it even if it broke.





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"Re(10): Thread Derailer Rearmed" , posted Mon 21 Jan 20:35post reply

WARNING: This has NOTHING to do with Bionic Commando. If you aren't Maou, or you aren't interested in random Lost Odyssey ramblings, please keep scrolling. Forgive me for robbing you of the time it took to read this.

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And lately I'm an enabler. Let me get my revenge for my derailed Miyazawa Kenji topic (I found what I hear a good translation to give to someone) by asking more about my man Sakaguchi's Lost Odyssey and how it's so (last disc aside) wonderful that I should brave a Japanese xbox360 and follow Fred's advice get a warranty from somewhere big like Bic Camera and wander around the world with it to places where it would be far too expensive to return it even if it broke.



What, are you asking me to babble about LO some more? I'll give you the "potpourri medley ultra rambling edition", then.

The extra, option stuff is very nice, because it's easy to get into. I found the optional maze especially...uhm...wonderful? Terrible? Wonderfully terrible? Every encounter is practically like a boss fight, and the concept of the maze was really crazy, because you kind of had to think in 3D.

Instead of being divided into floors and rooms, the maze was just two giant rooms with 3 levels (like floors) each. You had all these moving platforms, then rotating platforms that moved both horizontally and vertically, so you had to think about what you were effecting above, below and all around you. It drove me insane, but it was deviously clever.

That was my greatest joy on the otherwise lackluster 4th disk. It's like...the game is fantastic and fantastic and fantastic, then it has some mind-blowing half hour FMV super disaster extravaganza where you're just exhausted from watching it. (that's a good thing)

Then it splits the team up and you have to suffer through hours of boring fights (because you don't have a full team!) only to find that there's no interesting plot developments left by the time you all get back together. If they would have answered some of the burning questions they left you with at the end of the game, they could have supported themselves to the end, rather than collapsing under their own weight.

Since I'm rambling, I'll say that the villain is completely uninteresting, but amazing to watch all the same, because of how well his face animates. He does these...things with his eyes and eyebrows that I really get a kick out of. By virtue of artistry alone, even the less interesting characters end up with a subtle depth to them.

Uhm...what else? The last boss theme is neat, because it's a hard rock song with a chorus on top of it, then taiko drums, then like this...weird talking/rapping...then they combine it all, and it's totally awesome.

On a final note, although I'm not in the "turn based is outdated" or "random encounters ruin a game" crowd, both elements can easily be game-ruining. In so many RPGs, I've felt like every enemy encounter is just an obstacle to seeing more of the plot (the later Suikoden games are especially guilty of this).

Fortunately, in LO the battles are very well paced. The encounter rate is extremely low, but the fights themselves take longer than usual in RPGs. By the time you've reached the end of each dungeon, you've gotten enough EXP that the enemies don't give it to you anymore, and you're ready for your next set of monsters.

Since you have to pay attention in each battle, casting time is always a consideration (a very nice addition) and you can tweak so much with skills and such, the game never felt monotonous. It also helps that they hardly recycled enemies at all. That's almost unheard of in games these days where you generally have 5 enemies that get color changes or slight mods from the beginning to end.





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"Re(2):Re(10): Thread Derailer Rearmed" , posted Tue 22 Jan 10:08post reply

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If you aren't Maou, or you aren't interested in random Lost Odyssey ramblings, please keep scrolling.
Luckily, I am both of these things!

I'm excited to hear about the fun of the random battles. The only thing about the demo from TGS or whatever that didn't impress me was that the fights looked pretty...simple and old. If there's fewer of them but they're fun and involved, I'm completely happy with that. Lunar~Eternal Blue (Mega CD version especially) entertains me to this day with the field-distance strategy of its random battles, and the crushingly high encounter rate of the Phantasy Star II Sega Ages remake I'm playing now is outweighed by the fact that the battles are incredibly difficult and fun.

So, basically I need to wait for a hardware redesign or wait for the 360 to utterly fail (even more...getting surpassed by PS3 is pretty sad) so that I can get it dirt-cheap and buy it just for Lost Odyssey, I guess?





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"Re(3):Re(10): Thread Derailer Rearmed" , posted Tue 22 Jan 11:12post reply

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I'm excited to hear about the fun of the random battles. The only thing about the demo from TGS or whatever that didn't impress me was that the fights looked pretty...simple and old. If there's fewer of them but they're fun and involved, I'm completely happy with that. Lunar~Eternal Blue (Mega CD version especially) entertains me to this day with the field-distance strategy of its random battles, and the crushingly high encounter rate of the Phantasy Star II Sega Ages remake I'm playing now is outweighed by the fact that the battles are incredibly difficult and fun.

So, basically I need to wait for a hardware redesign or wait for the 360 to utterly fail (even more...getting surpassed by PS3 is pretty sad) so that I can get it dirt-cheap and buy it just for Lost Odyssey, I guess?



You mean the demo where all you could do was attack, because it was the beginning of the game and you just had Kaim (who only learns moves from other characters)? That was...yeah...they shouldn't have shown that.

You must be really selective if there's NOTHING else you want on 360. There's always Blue Dragon, too! It's roughly as good as LO, and certainly good for Chrono Trigger fans (unless you're one of those fans that would be insulted to think that it could ever replace CT, which really isn't what I'm trying to say).

Or you know, there's always Bionic Commando.

But it seems like you're on a really limited budget or something. I always wondered about that. Do you have a criminally low paying job, or expensive apartment payments, or a greedy girlfriend or something? You're not in college, are you?





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"Re(4):Re(10): Thread Derailer Rearmed" , posted Tue 22 Jan 11:53post reply

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But it seems like you're on a really limited budget or something. I always wondered about that. Do you have a criminally low paying job, or expensive apartment payments, or a greedy girlfriend or something? You're not in college, are you?
Nah, I'm mostly just frugal as far as entertainment goes (in contrast to most friends), especially since I'm only just out of school and since by tradition I pay very little for games----about 90 percent of the games I own were bought used from Book Off or from the famous big black treasure warehouse in Gunma.

For the 360 it's an especially big problem since these things seem to be exceptionally, mind-bogglingly poorly made. Since I only really play games in Japanese, it doesn't make much sense for me to get anything but a Japanese one, but since it will surely break, I can't very well go anywhere besides Japan to have it fixed, nor can I be paying to ship it around the world to wherever I might get its warrenty fulfilled. A quandary! Especially since MistWalker is literally the only thing that I want the system for.

But I'm glad to hear your thoughts on LO, which sounds like just what I need.

Heh. What is this Bionic Commando?





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"Re(5):Re(10): Thread Derailer Rearmed" , posted Tue 22 Jan 18:17post reply

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Heh. What is this Bionic Commando?



A miserable little pile of secrets!

But enough talk! Have at you!





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"Re(6):Re(10): Thread Derailer Rearmed" , posted Wed 23 Jan 06:21post reply

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Heh. What is this Bionic Commando?


A miserable little pile of secrets!

But enough talk! Have at you!

Well, I guess I walked right into that one.

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