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| nobinobita
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|  "Re(2):Half as good!" , posted Wed 26 Dec 04:23
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I mean, let's be serious, if you take any art of chun-li without her classic outfit, there's no way you can tell she's chinese.
I think Capcom does a good job of conveying race. Chunli definitely looks Asian, as do Ryu, Yun and Yang. Same with Zangief, Hugo and Guile, they all are definitely white.
A funny thing happens when you discuss race and drawings, you have to ask yourself how does someone look like a particular race? And then you have to realize this means different things for different people.
Most cartoon characters, even the detailed ones, generally just look like human beings rather than a particular race. And most good looking people tend to share similar features across all races.
For as long as I can remember, I thought all the people in the Manga and Anime i watched looked Asian (like me) because Asian = template human. Heck, i thought most of the X-men were Asian because of the way Jim Lee drew them.
Anyway, maybe Chunli doesn't look Chinese to you, but she does to me because I've met lots of good looking athletic Chinese girls that do look like her. But then, if you've only met frumpy chubby Asian American girls, you probably wouldn't think they looked anything like Chunli. Just like how Bruce Wayne looks nothing like the typical husky American.
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| Just a Person 1026th Post
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| "Re(5):Half as good!" , posted Thu 27 Dec 01:05
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Oh, I hated the X-men movies because the actors were not real mutants. I felt cheated. Same thing with Jurassic Park. Not real dinosaurs. How can we accept something like that?
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Yeah, and since Chinese women are as hard to come by as living dinosaurs and super-powered mutants, who can blame them for not using a real Chinese woman?
And why should they? Chun Li doesn't look Chinese, anyway. Actually, she looks more like an illustration to me, so maybe they should do like they did with the dinosaurs and make her out of CG or animatronics!
Hah, great answer, Polly!!
Yeah, I was also shocked... WTH is up with the producers of this movie to cast Kristin Kreuk to act as Chun-Li?? I mean, surely they can find other actresses that look more Asian than her (and that fight better than her... oh, and that ACT BETTER than her as well). Unless Zhang Ziyi, Lucy Liu, Ming-Na, Michelle Yeoh and every other Asian-related actresses (even the unknown ones) were sick or didn't want to act in this movie, that's really not a wise decision...
I was actually hopeful that Chun-Li's movie would have some quality, unlike Van Damme's one. But now... okay, there are many other things that can guarantee a good movie, but the lead actress is a pretty important part of it. And from what I saw in Smallville, Kreuk isn't exactly great in acting...
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| dr baghead 3742th Post
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| "Re(4):Half as good!" , posted Thu 27 Dec 05:39
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Oh, I hated the X-men movies because the actors were not real mutants. I felt cheated. Same thing with Jurassic Park. Not real dinosaurs. How can we accept something like that?
It seems like you want a different discuss then everyone else is having.
I point out that because Kreuk is half-Chinese people can pretend she's not horribly miscast (when you think 'kung-fu action cop' do you think 'Lana Lang'?) and Nobinobita points out he thinks Chun-Li looks asian and that art shouldn't determine how a character is portrayed in film (because yeah, to back him up, I've seen a LOT of Japanese looking Wolverines in comics.)
You however seem to take both of those as "OMFG! YOU CAN'T NOT CAST A PERSON OF THE EXACT ETHNIC MAKE-UP AS A CHARACTER!!!!" which they're clearly not.
I don't know if you're just not reading the comments or just want to rant about THOSE kinds of fanboys and are comments were close enough to launch your triaids but it's stupid.
You know what the best parts of Daredevil were?! African-American Kingpin and Irish Bullseye. The best X-Men?! Scottish Nightcrawler, Austrailian Wolverine, Flabby Old Guy Beast, and English Prof X and Juggernaugt. Every movie Guiermo Del Torro has made has been excellent even though I'm 99% sure those weren't a real blood sucky magic bug, ghost boy, Hellboy, OR Faun. And for everything wrong with the Van Damme Street Fighter, I still think it's HILLARIOUS in the good way!
I'm all for casting someone of a different ethnic make up then a fictional character (especially if the fictional character is something bizarre like "1/2 eskimo, 1/4 African, 1/8 Korean, 1/8 White") as long as they FIT THE CHARACTER...
Kreuk does not seem like a good Chun-Li, she does not seem like an ass kicker... maybe she'll prove me wrong, but right now it seems more like a "well she's sorta well known and might have some built in audience with teens" casting choice that be justified with a "plus she's half Chinese!" unlike if they had gotten enough money to cast Jessicas Biel or Alba like they wanted.
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