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"Any MMA fans here?" , posted Sun 8 Jul 13:53post reply

I just got back from seeing UFC Stacked at the bar and was checking to see if any of you fellows follow the sport?

Overall I thought it was a good card.

I think Herring should have had the fight by referee stoppage. A very lackluster debut for Nogueira.

Shrek/Franca went how I expected. Shrek is just a dominant wrestler.

Ortiz/Evans was interesting. It was probably the guillotine at the end of the second round that evened up the score card as I had the round very even until then. I wonder who will take on Rampage after his fight with Henderson as I was picking Evans to win this fight and become the number one contender.

Anderson Silva is a beast in the UFC. Although he has a black belt in bjj it doesn't show as he gets taken down, but he it willing to just put his opponent in the guard and work from there. I don't see Franklin taking back the title.






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"Re(1):Any MMA fans here?" , posted Sun 8 Jul 14:04post reply

arg
i was supposed to see that tonight but left too late, so i decided not to go at all. haven't been keeping up with UFC. saw a couple of fights here and there. i watched Ortiz trash that guy that hates him a long time ago. Shamrock? i dunno the names anymore. i just remember the fight lasted a few seconds

lately, been watching IFL, since i'm a hermit that doesn't go out to bars much. don't have cable or anything else, so IFL's kinda nice to watch. i'm pretty sad because it was here in Houston a while back, but i couldn't find anyone to go with. so i never went. then i hear later from friends of friends that it was one of the greatest things they've ever seen in their life. ugh >:o

i'm trying to find some of the Japanese stuff. what's it called? K9 or Pride or something? i saw some of that a looong time ago when my Japanese buddy was still in the states. my favorite guy from that was this traditional judo/jujutsu dude that still wore a gi. he wasn't at the top but he still took people down, especially with that lovely gi choke. i heard that they're not allowed to wear gis anymore though. but it's all hearsay! someone fill me in!





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"Re(2):Any MMA fans here?" , posted Mon 9 Jul 02:23:post reply

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i'm trying to find some of the Japanese stuff. what's it called? K9 or Pride or something? i saw some of that a looong time ago when my Japanese buddy was still in the states. my favorite guy from that was this traditional judo/jujutsu dude that still wore a gi. he wasn't at the top but he still took people down, especially with that lovely gi choke. i heard that they're not allowed to wear gis anymore though. but it's all hearsay! someone fill me in!



Pride was a great organization. Too bad that bad business decisions made it go under. They have a great DVD collection though. They have box sets of their earlier events that are pretty cheap.

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I believe you can get them cheaper at Wal-Mart or Best Buy.

I think some of the earlier Pride events aren't too great. They didn't allow knees to the head on the ground back then, they didn't have a good pool of fighters and a fight or two was fixed back then.





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"Re(1):Any MMA fans here?" , posted Mon 9 Jul 04:05:post reply

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I just got back from seeing UFC Stacked at the bar and was checking to see if any of you fellows follow the sport?

Overall I thought it was a good card.

I think Herring should have had the fight by referee stoppage. A very lackluster debut for Nogueira.

Shrek/Franca went how I expected. Shrek is just a dominant wrestler.

Ortiz/Evans was interesting. It was probably the guillotine at the end of the second round that evened up the score card as I had the round very even until then. I wonder who will take on Rampage after his fight with Henderson as I was picking Evans to win this fight and become the number one contender.

Anderson Silva is a beast in the UFC. Although he has a black belt in bjj it doesn't show as he gets taken down, but he it willing to just put his opponent in the guard and work from there. I don't see Franklin taking back the title.



I follow MMA quite closely currently it is only a hobby for me with school being full time but will consider it as a full time job if successful and other factors as well.

I have to agree with you guys Noguiera didn't impress me as I thought he would though despite taking that nice kick from Herring. Yet despite landing that kick and thinking Noguiera was out Herring really should of just finished it and let the ground and pound do its work. I think probably it came more of a shock to Herring that he knocked him with a kick seeing the likes of Crocop and Fedor placing such heavy hits on Noguiera and he is still being able to stand. Personally I think it should of been a draw.

edit: whoops forgot that Herring did do G&P I kept seeing the replay of the kick over and over and forgot about that. Have to change my stance on the draw towards the win for Nogeira due to the fact he wasn't limp like Chuck Lidell afterh is rampage rematch fight

Sherk and Franca, nothing will be taken away from Franca however I'm suprised Sherk walked into 3 knees that many times. I don't want to put Sherk for the title "lay and pray" in this fight cause he did more ground and pound and constantly switching positions from half guard to side mount but there had to be a few openings he could of took for a submissions.

However I digress, his hard work and experience in MMA overshadows anything he does as he clearly deserves that belt. I'm waiting for BJ Penn vs Sherk if Bj wishes to stay 155, after watching BJ simply play around with Jens pulver leading him from submission to submission I'd love to see those two guys go at it. Then again Jens Pulver himself admitted he's one dimensional as a sprawl and brawl fighter.

Tito and Rashad, I'll leave it at that. Not the same Tito though he is usually in peak condition. Awkward fight, Tito would have won if he didn't grab the cage as it is a point deduction on his behalf. However nothing taken away from Rashad as he did do some pressing on his own on his stand up. Wierd fight but honest result. Rampage and Hendo, hm possibly Shogun is fighting. Big word going down that Shogun is going to be fighting for the UFC.

Anderson Silva lastly is great, getting a black belt from the Noguiera brothers does show his game completely when he is fighting from the guard position. Yet he does need some wrestling applied as BJJ dependent on school wouldn't stress sprawls as they would as wrestling in there for his sprawl action though he did place 2 very very good sprawls in the entire match.





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"Re(3):Any MMA fans here?" , posted Mon 9 Jul 04:06post reply

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i'm trying to find some of the Japanese stuff. what's it called? K9 or Pride or something? i saw some of that a looong time ago when my Japanese buddy was still in the states. my favorite guy from that was this traditional judo/jujutsu dude that still wore a gi. he wasn't at the top but he still took people down, especially with that lovely gi choke. i heard that they're not allowed to wear gis anymore though. but it's all hearsay! someone fill me in!


Pride was a great organization. Too bad that bad business decisions made it go under. They have a great DVD collection though. They have box sets of their earlier events that are pretty cheap.

Link Here

I believe you can get them cheaper at Wal-Mart or Best Buy.

I think some of the earlier Pride events aren't too great. They didn't allow knees to the head on the ground back then, they didn't have a good pool of fighters and a fight or two was fixed back then.



the new pride(if ufc wants to keep it going) will be bullshit as it will run under crappy american ufc rules

course i havent seen it in ages





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"Re(4):Any MMA fans here?" , posted Mon 9 Jul 04:53post reply

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the new pride(if ufc wants to keep it going) will be bullshit as it will run under crappy american ufc rules

course i havent seen it in ages



Yeah I don't think it will be the same. The old pride was way better than UFC imo.





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"Re(4):Any MMA fans here?" , posted Mon 9 Jul 05:58:post reply

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i'm trying to find some of the Japanese stuff. what's it called? K9 or Pride or something? i saw some of that a looong time ago when my Japanese buddy was still in the states. my favorite guy from that was this traditional judo/jujutsu dude that still wore a gi. he wasn't at the top but he still took people down, especially with that lovely gi choke. i heard that they're not allowed to wear gis anymore though. but it's all hearsay! someone fill me in!


Pride was a great organization. Too bad that bad business decisions made it go under. They have a great DVD collection though. They have box sets of their earlier events that are pretty cheap.

Link Here

I believe you can get them cheaper at Wal-Mart or Best Buy.

I think some of the earlier Pride events aren't too great. They didn't allow knees to the head on the ground back then, they didn't have a good pool of fighters and a fight or two was fixed back then.


the new pride(if ufc wants to keep it going) will be bullshit as it will run under crappy american ufc rules

course i havent seen it in ages



I'm truly going to miss knees to down opponents, soccer kicks to the head, and stomps. I mean most of the dominant positions are the side mount, back and front mount. I can understand stomps being taken out cause thats a lot of weight crashing down with gravity just on a chest, but knees to the head or soccer kicks? Honestly that is so stupid for the NSAC to take those out as it makes the fighter who is on there back not lay there and continuously be pressed to have a fiercer ground game and continuous movement on the ground and not be stuck on the same position. Personally I would like it if the UFC used yellow cards in the organization.

I mean honestly what is the difference between getting kneed in the face like Rich Franklin did as opposed to getting kneed at the side of the head via the Takanori Gomi fight vs Ralph Gracie or even taking a kick to the head from a soccer kick. It really can't be that much of a difference. I mean it is supposed to be a fight how clean cut do you want a fight to wipe there self with a toilet paper.

What i'll really miss is the grand prix. Fighting twice in the same night if one is successful many many different results. Pure fun right there.





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"Re(5):Any MMA fans here?" , posted Tue 10 Jul 06:57post reply

I heard Dana White (UFC President) was trying to petition the athletic commissions to allow knees to the head on the ground. However, he doesn't seem to be a fan of stomps or soccer kicks.

My main gripe with the unified rules is the 10 point system. I preferred the judging criteria of Pride which focused on finishing the fight. Their yellow card system was great too, but America doesn't allow penalizing the pay of the fighters.

UFC Stacked attendance and pay

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Shrek seems underpaid, Ortiz over, but Silva is about just right. I am surprised they weren't able to sell out an even with two title fights and Ortiz on the card.

Ortiz says that Evans greased up

Pretty stupid to accuse a grappler of greasing when it hurts them just as much.





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"Re(6):Any MMA fans here?" , posted Tue 10 Jul 10:53:post reply

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I heard Dana White (UFC President) was trying to petition the athletic commissions to allow knees to the head on the ground. However, he doesn't seem to be a fan of stomps or soccer kicks.

My main gripe with the unified rules is the 10 point system. I preferred the judging criteria of Pride which focused on finishing the fight. Their yellow card system was great too, but America doesn't allow penalizing the pay of the fighters.

UFC Stacked attendance and pay

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Shrek seems underpaid, Ortiz over, but Silva is about just right. I am surprised they weren't able to sell out an even with two title fights and Ortiz on the card.

Ortiz says that Evans greased up

Pretty stupid to accuse a grappler of greasing when it hurts them just as much.




I'm a bit befuddled with Sean Sherk also getting paid so low for a champ, then again the light weight class just begun and slowly becoming a stacked division. Yet it is a weak excuse to make such a statement. Sean's Manager has to force out more for his pay or even his sponsors are giving more for his win. Unsure depending on the circumstances or is just plain out satisfied.

Ortiz getting paid for his worth, I can't blame him wanting to be paid 210 per purse. As extreme as it is to such an end wouldn't you guys want to get the most amount of money for the most strenuous amount of work you put out? I know I do. Even starting since there is barely much of an amateur division of MMA unless you want to consider King of the Cage or other small events, making money in that sport is the rewards for either being marketable or an undisputed champion and a good manager. Cause sometimes you won't fight for any money or shoddy promotions etc.

As a fan of Takanori gomi and disappointed in his performance against Nick Diaz [ none taking away that was one beautiful gogoplata and hard to pull off ] he could fall in the same category as well with in synonmous to Ortiz vs Rashad. Although news was taken he fought on short notice then Nick being high, ok maybe not the best relation to ortiz vs rashad but the start up is there.

Mind you that does not excuse Ortiz for such a display of a fight. I was actually going for Ortiz in this fight as it should be nothing for him but apparently, not to criticize maybe his life style or him taking Rashad so lightly to declare him as greased up is ridiculous. It is called sweat. Fedor Emelianenko has been known to sweat a whole lot as experienced from other fighters making it such a harder time to grasp him and make submissions.

As for the point system in the UFC, I think in some instances it is fair but from different angles it remains questionable to the judge whether or not the fighter is remaining active. Yellow Card's for the UFC is the best bet. Penalization of pay would come in Red card would be issued on an illegal action so nothing wrong with a Yellow card. Red card's are unlimited as opposed to three yellow card DQ rule in Pride, so no pay deduction is made on yellow cards. Only red card's on the Pride Bushido shows were the ones that deducted. Would of been perfect for that horrible Josh Koscheck vs Diego Sanchez fight.

Sweet! Knees on the ground, finally more active grappling, finally gives light on real grappling and not just laying there waiting to stall. As for soccer kicks I still think thats insanely stupid. Take out standing head kicks or knees to the head if the fighter doesn't like it he can tap there is no shame in that. Oh well, atleast it is a legitimized sport under ESPN slowly but surely. Though they still take their potshots at MMA discreetly in favor of the whole Boxing vs MMA fiasco.





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"New UFC game" , posted Fri 13 Jul 04:58post reply

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The movements are obviously prerendered, but the character models don't look like too big of a step from Fight Night Round 3 so they might be something we will get.





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"Re(1):New UFC game" , posted Fri 13 Jul 07:44post reply

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Link Here

The movements are obviously prerendered, but the character models don't look like too big of a step from Fight Night Round 3 so they might be something we will get.



Ah, the rampage slam. I miss that so much after that fight with Ricardo Arona. Nice presentation for the game though, simple!





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"News" , posted Fri 20 Jul 04:57post reply

Sean Sherk test positive for steroid

Hermes Franca test positice for "banned substance"

Sucks for Sherk if it is true since he was supposed to fight BJ Penn in a couple of months. Hopefully this will open up Joe Stevenson and Roger Huerta to get the title.

UFC 75 will be on Spike

By Unification it means the true beginning of the deletion of Pride. The title will never be broken down again even if it is vacated.

Interview with Josh Barnett





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"Re(1):News" , posted Fri 20 Jul 05:31post reply

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Sean Sherk test positive for steroid

Hermes Franca test positice for "banned substance"

Sucks for Sherk if it is true since he was supposed to fight BJ Penn in a couple of months. Hopefully this will open up Joe Stevenson and Roger Huerta to get the title.

UFC 75 will be on Spike

By Unification it means the true beginning of the deletion of Pride. The title will never be broken down again even if it is vacated.

Interview with Josh Barnett



OOO. That is a kick in the balls, that's all I gotta say that is a double whammy right there. So much for UFC 78 penn vs sherk. Come on "Kid" Yamamoto if you're coming! Then again Urijah Faber wants a piece of him!

My thoughts and prayers go out to Forrest Griffin. He just got a win up from a lost now Mauricio "Shogun" Rua's coach Rudimar Federico confirmed a battle between the two. Instead of the Shogun vs Lyoto Machida fight.

Confirmed Shogun vs Griffin


As for the unification fight I honestly cannot, absolutely, cannot wait to see Hendo fight again. Interesting match up for him and Rampage to go toe to toe.

Though I wouldn't say necessarily a deletion of pride, theres word that pride will be starting up in August. Leads me to believe the future status of Takanori Gomi, big word with him he was going to supposedly fight for K-1 heroes making their lightweight division one stacked division. Unconfirmed as of where his status will be next.

Pride Reborn August 18?

Personally i'm still waiting on the Wanderlei Silva/ Lidell fight. It was supposed to happen this year but it is all over the place at the moment

Silva: I did not chicken out

Lastly, with Josh Barnett, I hope he comes back to the UFC as he is in standing good terms with them despite his past incident with steroid use too. I think he would be a definite top dog here in the UFC.





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"Wanderlei to UFC in December" , posted Thu 2 Aug 05:59post reply

Wanderlei Silva

December would put him in a position to fight Chuck since his fight with Jardine will be in September.

I doubt that that Pride Reborn show is going to happen since it is a little over 2 weeks away with no announcements.

Hopefully Shogun's debut is worthwhile.





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"Re(1):Wanderlei to UFC in December" , posted Thu 2 Aug 12:30:post reply

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Wanderlei Silva

December would put him in a position to fight Chuck since his fight with Jardine will be in September.

I doubt that that Pride Reborn show is going to happen since it is a little over 2 weeks away with no announcements.

Hopefully Shogun's debut is worthwhile.



Hopefully if Lidell wins against Jardine he won't sustain serious injuries that would lead him into suspension by the NSAC holding back from the Wanderlei fight. Sweet~

Yea seeing that is August right now it is like where are you Pride? Kinda like sucking my thumb and sleeping in bed knowing everything won't be okay.

Shogun debut should be interesting seeing it is with Griffin a person who wants to stand and bang irregardless. Though his last fight in Ireland was a hesitant one, he fighting on his terms as opposed to putting on the show stopping fights he usually does. But I'm sure they will put the fight right out there. Then again they are fighters and should strictly focus on their job and priorities with the smallest bit focused on entertainment.

Gomi to Heroes report? [Japanese]

Not sure what the translation on this report is from Nikkan Sports but I suppose it is more fuel on the fire whether Gomi will be headed to K-1 heroes.





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"Rankings" , posted Sat 11 Aug 15:02post reply

Hey Gekiganger whats your thoughts on rankings in MMA with the way the sport fluctuates from winner to loser in an instant? Usually in some cases it easy for any fan to armchair and say a winner will be such and such dominant fighter though in some cases shocking defeats like Gongaza vs Crocop via head kick change all that.

Just recently Sherdog just put up Rankings [ scroll through different pages or menu at top ]

I was curious what would be your thoughts on them! I think it is pretty interesting line up, I think the light heavyweight class is hard to place on whose who and the welterweight and lightweight division. Very competitive divisions at the time being.





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"Re(1):Rankings" , posted Mon 13 Aug 08:34post reply

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Hey Gekiganger whats your thoughts on rankings in MMA with the way the sport fluctuates from winner to loser in an instant? Usually in some cases it easy for any fan to armchair and say a winner will be such and such dominant fighter though in some cases shocking defeats like Gongaza vs Crocop via head kick change all that.

Just recently Sherdog just put up Rankings [ scroll through different pages or menu at top ]

I was curious what would be your thoughts on them! I think it is pretty interesting line up, I think the light heavyweight class is hard to place on whose who and the welterweight and lightweight division. Very competitive divisions at the time being.



MMA rankings are very difficult things to do since the organizations that run them are private business as oppose to sanctioning bodies like boxing's WBC, WBA, etc.

Sherdog's looks interesting. Heavyweight seems a little off since I think that Josh Barnett should be top 5. Gozanga should definitely be top 10 though after his victory over Crocop(which had me depressed that whole weekend).

Lightheavy seems about right.

Middle seems to be a bit weird. Frank Trigg? I think Kang should be higher up as well.

Welterweight . . . I guess since Serra is the champ he should be number 1 . . . . Karo should be moved up to top 5 though. Although I'm not a fan of Koscheck, he deserves to be ranked above Sanchez since he did beat him in that "fight."

Lightweight is a bit hard to follow now.





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"Re(2):Rankings" , posted Tue 14 Aug 09:21post reply

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MMA rankings are very difficult things to do since the organizations that run them are private business as oppose to sanctioning bodies like boxing's WBC, WBA, etc.

Sherdog's looks interesting. Heavyweight seems a little off since I think that Josh Barnett should be top 5. Gozanga should definitely be top 10 though after his victory over Crocop(which had me depressed that whole weekend).

Lightheavy seems about right.

Middle seems to be a bit weird. Frank Trigg? I think Kang should be higher up as well.

Welterweight . . . I guess since Serra is the champ he should be number 1 . . . . Karo should be moved up to top 5 though. Although I'm not a fan of Koscheck, he deserves to be ranked above Sanchez since he did beat him in that "fight."

Lightweight is a bit hard to follow now.



I definitely agree that with the different business like Strikeforce, Elite XC, UFC, whichever it is pretty hard to determine who is the creame of the crop since every organization declares that their belt is for the "World" title instead of an organization.

Josh Barnett is up there he is number 5 within the top 5. I felt the same way you did when Crocop got head kicked by Gonzaga. Awfully depressing. Hopefully his return against Chieck Kongo will be a powerhouse since there both stand up fighters. That and with his training partners being with Remy Bonjasky and Gilbert Yivel from K-1 to further push him in his striking, I think were going to see one different Crocop. I believe Ricco Rodriguez is on that list also to help Crocop with his ground skills.

Frank Trigg for the middleweights is reasonably up there due to his defeats of Kazuo Misaki the welterweight grand prix champ who also defeated Dan Henderson at the time. I have to say I'm a bit suprised Denis Kang is placed so low to, he's a great fighter as well.

Welterweight I'm a bit confused as with Lightweight. Takanori Gomi's spot as world lightweight should be that competitively in the UFC welterweight division since Pride had to make the cap at 160 seeing he cuts down from 180 pounds I believe. Really he should be in the welterweight division as it kinda puts things south in my honest opinion.





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"News and predictions" , posted Fri 24 Aug 01:32post reply

Wanderlei officially with UFC

This news has been up for a few days. They will probably show him off this Saturday. I wonder if they will announce his first fight then too.

Lesnar wants title shot

Son of a Bitch! Lesnar thinks he's a badass because he beat ONE nobody. The potential for a large ppv buy is pretty big since Lesnar was a big name in the WWF. However if he gets a title shot within his first 5 matches, I will be pissed. He should work his way up and probably go against Barnett along the way since they are both pro-wrestlers.

I want to Lesnar go down hard. He was handed the greatest pro-wrestling career of this era, but gave it all up to fail as a NFL player now he has this attitude that he is better than everybody.

Well onto my UFC predictions for the main card.

Cote vs Grove
Cote is getting better but Grove simply outclasses him.

Stevenson vs Pelligro
Stevenson by decision or late round TKO

Huerta vs Crane
I only know more about Huerta and I say he'll provide an exciting match.

St. Pierre vs Koscheck
Koscheck ain't special or worthy of contender ship. I hope GSP dominates in the first round. However, if Koscheck goes back to his strategy of take down and lay on top then he may be able to get a decision. People like him are what Don Frye was talking about when he said UFC had fighters who did not care about winning, but only cared about not losing.

Gonzaga vs Couture
I say this will prove that Gonzaga will either be a one hit wonder or he will be a defining champion. Couture picked Gonzaga to beat Crocop for some reason so I bet he has a good plan on how to beat Gonzaga. I say Couture by UD since he seems to be training pretty hard. He has been training with Wanderlei so that gives him some points in my book.





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"Re(1):News and predictions" , posted Fri 24 Aug 10:22:post reply

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Wanderlei officially with UFC

This news has been up for a few days. They will probably show him off this Saturday. I wonder if they will announce his first fight then too.

Lesnar wants title shot

Son of a Bitch! Lesnar thinks he's a badass because he beat ONE nobody. The potential for a large ppv buy is pretty big since Lesnar was a big name in the WWF. However if he gets a title shot within his first 5 matches, I will be pissed. He should work his way up and probably go against Barnett along the way since they are both pro-wrestlers.

I want to Lesnar go down hard. He was handed the greatest pro-wrestling career of this era, but gave it all up to fail as a NFL player now he has this attitude that he is better than everybody.

Well onto my UFC predictions for the main card.

Cote vs Grove
Cote is getting better but Grove simply outclasses him.

Stevenson vs Pelligro
Stevenson by decision or late round TKO

Huerta vs Crane
I only know more about Huerta and I say he'll provide an exciting match.

St. Pierre vs Koscheck
Koscheck ain't special or worthy of contender ship. I hope GSP dominates in the first round. However, if Koscheck goes back to his strategy of take down and lay on top then he may be able to get a decision. People like him are what Don Frye was talking about when he said UFC had fighters who did not care about winning, but only cared about not losing.

Gonzaga vs Couture
I say this will prove that Gonzaga will either be a one hit wonder or he will be a defining champion. Couture picked Gonzaga to beat Crocop for some reason so I bet he has a good plan on how to beat Gonzaga. I say Couture by UD since he seems to be training pretty hard. He has been training with Wanderlei so that gives him some points in my book.



Come onnnnn Lidell and Silva end of this year comeee onnnn!! *crossing fingers* The expressions Dana give are hilarious, never have I've seen him that excited before. I could only imagine when Fedor signs.

*High freaking Five*. Lesnar is no pushover however he trains at Sean Sherk's Minnesota training center and has a high prestigious NCAA background. He does have incredible work ethic I will give him that, looking back at an old WWE training segment of himself, but I heavily do agree though he needs to work up to establish himself. The third person bit is quite annoying and whose this "many" people he is talking about? Sit and wait in line or personally feed him to the lions. I don't think he can hang just yet.

So far our predictions are actually quite the same! I don't have an opinion on Huerta vs Crane, I haven't been keeping up with either two of them honestly. I will say though about Koscheck and GSP, I would strangely find it odd if he pulls the Diego fight and strangely win. Not that i'm supporting him don't get me wrong I just don't like Koscheck. But of course that won't happen for long since GSP loves to push the tempo on his opponents with his go fast go hard or go home controlling everything in his way. The words are right out of my mouth for Randy vs Gongaza. Though I believe I want to say TKO finish maybe since this is Gongaza's first 5 rounder, and not much is known on behalf of his training regimen and if he is ready to go the distance. Now on a fan based look on things, I think every Crocop supporter wants Randy to win for the Gongaza upset lol.

Time for one hell of a Saturday night.

Edit on topic related to martial arts towards Gekiganger or anyone: You watch that show on the history channel Human weapon? Pretty interesting show.





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"UFC Response to Brock Lesnar" , posted Sat 25 Aug 00:15post reply

http://www.thefightnetwork.com/news_detail.php?nid=4636

PAGING MR. LESNAR

2000 NCAA heavyweight champion and former WWE pro wrestler Brock Lesnar is on the UFC’s radar, Dana White confirmed today. Lesnar made his successful MMA debut at June 2’s “Dynamite!! USA” in Los Angeles, Calif., submitting South Korean Min Soo Kim with strikes in under two minutes. Lesnar is expected to attend Saturday night’s UFC 74 event.

“I’m very interested in Brock Lesnar,” said White. “I tried to talk to those guys a couple of years ago and they were on another planet at that time. After fighting in the sh--y show he fought in last time, maybe they’re back down here on Earth and we can talk Saturday night.”

UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture voiced his approval of a potential match-up as well.

“I’d love the opportunity to fight Brock,” said the 44-year-old legend. “He’s a big strong guy, has a wrestling background. I’m familiar with his collegiate career.I don’t really follow pro wrestling, so I don’t know what he’s really done in there, not that I think it really matters. It would be an interesting fight.


Man that's great gotta love Randy and especially Dana for their all out honesty





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"Re(1):UFC Response to Brock Lesnar" , posted Sat 25 Aug 03:28post reply

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I don’t really follow pro wrestling, so I don’t know what he’s really done in there, not that I think it really matters. It would be an interesting fight.



Boy i'd love to see Randy put Brock in his place. At the same time, I think Brock's pro wrestling career will benefit him in that it's given him the proper conditioning for fighting. Sure wrestling's fake, but the physical requisites for it are very similar to MMO. You gotta be a big strong dude, but also have to be agile and have really really good endurance.

But anyway, i would love to see Randy prove that brains are much more important than brawn in MMO.





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"Respect thoughts" , posted Sun 26 Aug 14:28post reply

Except for Grove and Cote I wasn't surprised by who won each match.

They need to find out if Sean Sherk is guilty or innocent of steroids so that either Stevenson or Huerta can get a title shot.

I can't believe TWO judges scored the fight 29-28 in the GSP/Koscheck fight. One judge I might have understood, but while the first round was rather close it was obvious GSP dominated. Koscheck's hand speed has gotten a bit better, but he was only throwing that one-two and it wasn't getting him anything.

I was surprised that Couture dominated Gonzaga as easily as he did and was able to pick him up. The cut on the nose definitely sealed Gonzaga's fate. I am surprised someone of Gonzaga's build could throw a high kick as fast as he did, but he went to that well too many times.

I wonder who is next in line for a heavyweight title shot. I can only think of Noguiera, even though he didn't look that impressive in his UFC debut match.





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"Re(1):Respect thoughts" , posted Mon 27 Aug 08:53post reply

I missed a majority of the fights and was able to see the third round of Stevenson and beyond due to a family friend engagement. Wish I could of seen that whole Stevenson fight because it looked great the end.

GSP and Koscheck, gotta love. Just gotta love it. Hand speed in my opinion isn't an equivalent for "better" boxing. It is like he is swinging for the fences in his shot. It is great that he is sticking the jab but personally I think his step is too big, he has the opportunity of making a great reach with his jab. Alas the overhand right he had going wasn't much for that matter too. He still needs better work on his technique. I just love the pre-fight shit talk. "George? Beat me in wrestling?" HA. He only had probably only one take down secured in that entire fight while the rest were just stuffed GSP doing the takedowns along with controlling positioning. To add fuel to the fire he doesn't even have a decorated background such as Koscheck. That one should of been an Unanimous decision but not to take away anything from Koscheck but he did the correct measures in defending that Kimura and gaining first round positioning he was in. George used every tool in his arsenal and simply beat Koscheck at his own game.

Randy Coture, simply just amazing. Funny thing for me watching Randy come out with the trucker hat and the music gave off a bit of a Terry Bogard vibe there! Just what I expected for a TKO ground and pound finish. Gabe isn't much of a surprise for head kicks and people his size. It is applicable with lots of practice, dynamic, and static stretching but it is a high risk maneuver with risk involved. Check out Ben Rothwell from the IFL, just as big and can kick high. If Gabe would of followed through with that kick instead of sticking it more damage could have been done. Randy did a beautiful job with the dirty boxing, double underhooks then break, swarm them with a few hits, double under hooks again to close the gap and prevent any counters from occurring and wear Gabe down physically. Perfectly played right into his own pocket.





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"Dana White beef with Barnett" , posted Tue 4 Sep 16:14post reply

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I can't believe it. Top 5 heavyweight in the world and 'nobody cares about him'

Apparently White has something against Denis Kang who he didn't think was a big name or rising star.

Dana White says shit just to say shit and it is very annoying.





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"Re(1):Dana White beef with Barnett" , posted Wed 5 Sep 13:57:post reply

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I can't believe it. Top 5 heavyweight in the world and 'nobody cares about him'

Apparently White has something against Denis Kang who he didn't think was a big name or rising star.

Dana White says shit just to say shit and it is very annoying.



Along with the UFC 74 post fight comments and this part of me thinks that Josh Barnett should of carried himself in a professional manner or for that matter taken such a simple statement of Dana White so personally seeing how fast word gets around quickly. It is just hype that will happen from the promoter IE Dana White himself.

THOUGH what annoys me is the failure to recognize his position as a fighter. Sure he has been beat by Crocop multiple times but by no means is Josh Barnett a wash up. I really think he would do wonders in taking a notch further for marketing since Josh is such a personable person.

I'm a bit perplexed with Kang as well, that guy fought his heart out in that grand prix. Not sure what the reasoning is there I'm sure let him in for a contract and rebuild him again and I honestly think that he will quickly make a big fan base.

In any case, least we get babalu back. Once he cleans himself up. Though watching the fight over and over it really didn't look that bad, steve mazagatti did a shitty job breaking it up. Yet I will agree with Dana White that discipline has to be made to keep a clean image and legitimize the sport. Though... looking at the previews for the ultimate fighter with serra and hughes, ugh where do they get these people?





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"75 Predictions" , posted Sat 8 Sep 11:54:post reply

Bisping/Hamill

I think Bisping will win, but if Hamill gets in close and does some dirty boxing and roughs him up Couture style then he might get the victory.


Crocop/Kongo


Please come back strong Crocop.

Jackson/Henderson

I think this fight can go either way and the one who will lose will be the first person to mess up.

However, I think Henderson has the higher probability of making a mistake since he likes to throw wild punches and Rampage's striking has become a bit more precise. I kind of hate for either of these guys to lose since I am fans of both, but history has to be made.

I am going to try and avoid the internet tomorrow to avoid spoilers.

Also there has been some news floating around that Fedor has not signed a contract with UFC, but will be at 75 and is now promoting Affliction shirts.

I think there is the chance that he has signed with UFC and Dana White is denying stuff as usual to try and "surprise" us. I can understand wanting to keep a surprise, but the flat out denial followed shortly by a confirmation has been White's style for a while. If anything THIS was the reason "no comment" was invented. If White started using "no comment" I wouldn't know what to believe.

There is also news, I can't remember where I read it though, that Yoshida has signed with the UFC.

If that is true I don't see him doing too much. Plus Yoshida minus the gi wouldn't seem like Yoshida to me.





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