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| Catalyst
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|  "Re(6):Any MMA fans here?" , posted Tue 10 Jul 10:53:
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I heard Dana White (UFC President) was trying to petition the athletic commissions to allow knees to the head on the ground. However, he doesn't seem to be a fan of stomps or soccer kicks.
My main gripe with the unified rules is the 10 point system. I preferred the judging criteria of Pride which focused on finishing the fight. Their yellow card system was great too, but America doesn't allow penalizing the pay of the fighters.
UFC Stacked attendance and pay
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Shrek seems underpaid, Ortiz over, but Silva is about just right. I am surprised they weren't able to sell out an even with two title fights and Ortiz on the card.
Ortiz says that Evans greased up
Pretty stupid to accuse a grappler of greasing when it hurts them just as much.
I'm a bit befuddled with Sean Sherk also getting paid so low for a champ, then again the light weight class just begun and slowly becoming a stacked division. Yet it is a weak excuse to make such a statement. Sean's Manager has to force out more for his pay or even his sponsors are giving more for his win. Unsure depending on the circumstances or is just plain out satisfied.
Ortiz getting paid for his worth, I can't blame him wanting to be paid 210 per purse. As extreme as it is to such an end wouldn't you guys want to get the most amount of money for the most strenuous amount of work you put out? I know I do. Even starting since there is barely much of an amateur division of MMA unless you want to consider King of the Cage or other small events, making money in that sport is the rewards for either being marketable or an undisputed champion and a good manager. Cause sometimes you won't fight for any money or shoddy promotions etc.
As a fan of Takanori gomi and disappointed in his performance against Nick Diaz [ none taking away that was one beautiful gogoplata and hard to pull off ] he could fall in the same category as well with in synonmous to Ortiz vs Rashad. Although news was taken he fought on short notice then Nick being high, ok maybe not the best relation to ortiz vs rashad but the start up is there.
Mind you that does not excuse Ortiz for such a display of a fight. I was actually going for Ortiz in this fight as it should be nothing for him but apparently, not to criticize maybe his life style or him taking Rashad so lightly to declare him as greased up is ridiculous. It is called sweat. Fedor Emelianenko has been known to sweat a whole lot as experienced from other fighters making it such a harder time to grasp him and make submissions.
As for the point system in the UFC, I think in some instances it is fair but from different angles it remains questionable to the judge whether or not the fighter is remaining active. Yellow Card's for the UFC is the best bet. Penalization of pay would come in Red card would be issued on an illegal action so nothing wrong with a Yellow card. Red card's are unlimited as opposed to three yellow card DQ rule in Pride, so no pay deduction is made on yellow cards. Only red card's on the Pride Bushido shows were the ones that deducted. Would of been perfect for that horrible Josh Koscheck vs Diego Sanchez fight.
Sweet! Knees on the ground, finally more active grappling, finally gives light on real grappling and not just laying there waiting to stall. As for soccer kicks I still think thats insanely stupid. Take out standing head kicks or knees to the head if the fighter doesn't like it he can tap there is no shame in that. Oh well, atleast it is a legitimized sport under ESPN slowly but surely. Though they still take their potshots at MMA discreetly in favor of the whole Boxing vs MMA fiasco.
Gackt - Returner
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| Catalyst 288th Post
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| "Re(1):News and predictions" , posted Fri 24 Aug 10:22:
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Wanderlei officially with UFC
This news has been up for a few days. They will probably show him off this Saturday. I wonder if they will announce his first fight then too.
Lesnar wants title shot
Son of a Bitch! Lesnar thinks he's a badass because he beat ONE nobody. The potential for a large ppv buy is pretty big since Lesnar was a big name in the WWF. However if he gets a title shot within his first 5 matches, I will be pissed. He should work his way up and probably go against Barnett along the way since they are both pro-wrestlers.
I want to Lesnar go down hard. He was handed the greatest pro-wrestling career of this era, but gave it all up to fail as a NFL player now he has this attitude that he is better than everybody.
Well onto my UFC predictions for the main card.
Cote vs Grove
Cote is getting better but Grove simply outclasses him.
Stevenson vs Pelligro
Stevenson by decision or late round TKO
Huerta vs Crane
I only know more about Huerta and I say he'll provide an exciting match.
St. Pierre vs Koscheck
Koscheck ain't special or worthy of contender ship. I hope GSP dominates in the first round. However, if Koscheck goes back to his strategy of take down and lay on top then he may be able to get a decision. People like him are what Don Frye was talking about when he said UFC had fighters who did not care about winning, but only cared about not losing.
Gonzaga vs Couture
I say this will prove that Gonzaga will either be a one hit wonder or he will be a defining champion. Couture picked Gonzaga to beat Crocop for some reason so I bet he has a good plan on how to beat Gonzaga. I say Couture by UD since he seems to be training pretty hard. He has been training with Wanderlei so that gives him some points in my book.
Come onnnnn Lidell and Silva end of this year comeee onnnn!! *crossing fingers* The expressions Dana give are hilarious, never have I've seen him that excited before. I could only imagine when Fedor signs.
*High freaking Five*. Lesnar is no pushover however he trains at Sean Sherk's Minnesota training center and has a high prestigious NCAA background. He does have incredible work ethic I will give him that, looking back at an old WWE training segment of himself, but I heavily do agree though he needs to work up to establish himself. The third person bit is quite annoying and whose this "many" people he is talking about? Sit and wait in line or personally feed him to the lions. I don't think he can hang just yet.
So far our predictions are actually quite the same! I don't have an opinion on Huerta vs Crane, I haven't been keeping up with either two of them honestly. I will say though about Koscheck and GSP, I would strangely find it odd if he pulls the Diego fight and strangely win. Not that i'm supporting him don't get me wrong I just don't like Koscheck. But of course that won't happen for long since GSP loves to push the tempo on his opponents with his go fast go hard or go home controlling everything in his way. The words are right out of my mouth for Randy vs Gongaza. Though I believe I want to say TKO finish maybe since this is Gongaza's first 5 rounder, and not much is known on behalf of his training regimen and if he is ready to go the distance. Now on a fan based look on things, I think every Crocop supporter wants Randy to win for the Gongaza upset lol.
Time for one hell of a Saturday night.
Edit on topic related to martial arts towards Gekiganger or anyone: You watch that show on the history channel Human weapon? Pretty interesting show.
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| Catalyst 288th Post
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| "UFC Response to Brock Lesnar" , posted Sat 25 Aug 00:15
http://www.thefightnetwork.com/news_detail.php?nid=4636
PAGING MR. LESNAR
2000 NCAA heavyweight champion and former WWE pro wrestler Brock Lesnar is on the UFC’s radar, Dana White confirmed today. Lesnar made his successful MMA debut at June 2’s “Dynamite!! USA” in Los Angeles, Calif., submitting South Korean Min Soo Kim with strikes in under two minutes. Lesnar is expected to attend Saturday night’s UFC 74 event.
“I’m very interested in Brock Lesnar,” said White. “I tried to talk to those guys a couple of years ago and they were on another planet at that time. After fighting in the sh--y show he fought in last time, maybe they’re back down here on Earth and we can talk Saturday night.”
UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture voiced his approval of a potential match-up as well.
“I’d love the opportunity to fight Brock,” said the 44-year-old legend. “He’s a big strong guy, has a wrestling background. I’m familiar with his collegiate career.I don’t really follow pro wrestling, so I don’t know what he’s really done in there, not that I think it really matters. It would be an interesting fight.”
Man that's great gotta love Randy and especially Dana for their all out honesty
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| Catalyst 289th Post
Copper Customer
| "Re(1):Respect thoughts" , posted Mon 27 Aug 08:53
I missed a majority of the fights and was able to see the third round of Stevenson and beyond due to a family friend engagement. Wish I could of seen that whole Stevenson fight because it looked great the end.
GSP and Koscheck, gotta love. Just gotta love it. Hand speed in my opinion isn't an equivalent for "better" boxing. It is like he is swinging for the fences in his shot. It is great that he is sticking the jab but personally I think his step is too big, he has the opportunity of making a great reach with his jab. Alas the overhand right he had going wasn't much for that matter too. He still needs better work on his technique. I just love the pre-fight shit talk. "George? Beat me in wrestling?" HA. He only had probably only one take down secured in that entire fight while the rest were just stuffed GSP doing the takedowns along with controlling positioning. To add fuel to the fire he doesn't even have a decorated background such as Koscheck. That one should of been an Unanimous decision but not to take away anything from Koscheck but he did the correct measures in defending that Kimura and gaining first round positioning he was in. George used every tool in his arsenal and simply beat Koscheck at his own game.
Randy Coture, simply just amazing. Funny thing for me watching Randy come out with the trucker hat and the music gave off a bit of a Terry Bogard vibe there! Just what I expected for a TKO ground and pound finish. Gabe isn't much of a surprise for head kicks and people his size. It is applicable with lots of practice, dynamic, and static stretching but it is a high risk maneuver with risk involved. Check out Ben Rothwell from the IFL, just as big and can kick high. If Gabe would of followed through with that kick instead of sticking it more damage could have been done. Randy did a beautiful job with the dirty boxing, double underhooks then break, swarm them with a few hits, double under hooks again to close the gap and prevent any counters from occurring and wear Gabe down physically. Perfectly played right into his own pocket.
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| Catalyst 294th Post
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| "Re(1):75 Predictions" , posted Sat 8 Sep 16:32
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Bisping/Hamill
I think Bisping will win, but if Hamill gets in close and does some dirty boxing and roughs him up Couture style then he might get the victory.
Crocop/Kongo
Please come back strong Crocop.
Jackson/Henderson
I think this fight can go either way and the one who will lose will be the first person to mess up.
However, I think Henderson has the higher probability of making a mistake since he likes to throw wild punches and Rampage's striking has become a bit more precise. I kind of hate for either of these guys to lose since I am fans of both, but history has to be made.
I am going to try and avoid the internet tomorrow to avoid spoilers.
Also there has been some news floating around that Fedor has not signed a contract with UFC, but will be at 75 and is now promoting Affliction shirts.
I think there is the chance that he has signed with UFC and Dana White is denying stuff as usual to try and "surprise" us. I can understand wanting to keep a surprise, but the flat out denial followed shortly by a confirmation has been White's style for a while. If anything THIS was the reason "no comment" was invented. If White started using "no comment" I wouldn't know what to believe.
There is also news, I can't remember where I read it though, that Yoshida has signed with the UFC.
If that is true I don't see him doing too much. Plus Yoshida minus the gi wouldn't seem like Yoshida to me.
For bisping and Hamil I'd need to sit down and watch a few more tapes of them to make a conclusive decision. However I thought he did very well against Elvis Sinosonic [sp?]
I'm really gonna go out on a limb here heavily and have Crocop in this favor. Seeing this is possibly going to be a slug fest, without any attempt at a ground work in this match, having Remy Bojansky in your cornor and Gilbert Yvel says alot. Though I won't say Crocop will get by easily. He still has his hands, he just gotta put those punches in bunches and set it up with a strong kick and we got ourselves a crocop.
Hendo and Rampage. I've been thinking about this all week and I'm stuck at the same conclusion. I honestly don't know. Both are strong respectively in their grappling backgrounds. An advantage lays with Hendo seeing he is a greco roman specialist and the clinch is where Jackson is usually beaten via Wanderlei twice in two matches. Striking wise, I can't remember which boxer Rampage was training with but I believe it was "Sugar" Ray Lenord. As for Hendo he improved drastically with his hand speed and strength in just a short amount of time.
Personally on this match I'm left at a no comment. There is a slight favor weight wise for Jackson seeing this is his natural weight class but hmm, I don't know what to say on this one.
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| GekigangerV 1423th Post
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| "75 Results Spoilers" , posted Sun 9 Sep 16:05
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Alexander/Sakara
Pretty good fight, I wonder how far Alexander will go with a pretty stacked division
Davis/Taylor
A very impressive recovery by Davis. That fight could have ended a lot earlier going the other way.
CroCop/Kongo
I am disappointed, but I started to see it at the end of round 1. Even though Crocop won round one you could see that Crocop was frustrated. If he pushed the fight like he did in round one he could have gotten one more round and gotten the decision.
This may sound like bitching, but I think Kongo should have gotten a point deducted for the two low blows in Round 3 since Big John had warned him between rounds 2 and 3 and he was willing to take a point away quickly with Rashad/Ortiz.
Even with a draw in that fight, Crocop performed poorly. I wonder if he is still top ten.
Bisping/Hamill
Round one was obviously Hamill and rounds 2 and 3 were CLOSE. If MMA allowed for 10/10 rounds, round 2 or 3 could of them would have been 10/10.
However, I have come to accept that even in a close round that UFC scoring system usually gives advantage to whoever gets the takedowns, which were in Hamill's favor.
IMO, Hamill won that fight.
Jackson/Henderson
Very nice, technical match. Not much more to say about it.
I hope Henderson sticks around 205 as a rematch would be great. However, there is still the possibility that he could unify his 185 title.
Hopefully Jackson sticks at the top, but I don't know with Shogun coming in.
Whoever this Juanito guy is, he is a great trainer as he trained, Kongo, Bisping and Jackson.
Commercials were kicking my ass this event.
End of Spoiler
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| Catalyst 312th Post
Bronze Customer
| "Shogun possibly next in line with Lidell" , posted Tue 25 Sep 05:37
Based on what Hackleman, Chuck's coach, is stating the next fight they will request in December is Shogun. Let's hope both one of the two or both will be wanting to fight each other bad enough to redeem themselves.
What’s happening in the world of mixed martial arts now …
By Loretta Hunt (loretta@thefightnetwork.com)
Photo Courtesy of UFC.com
If Chuck Liddell is contemplating retirement, his trainer and closest confidante John Hackleman is the last to hear about it.
“He’s already said he’ll be back in the gym next Monday,” said Hackleman, who has coached Liddell for 16 years. “He’s going to fight again, hopefully as soon as possible, maybe in December. We’re looking at ‘Shogun.’”
Along with Liddell, Mauricio “Shogun” Rua was among the casualties at Saturday night’s at UFC 76 “Knockout” at the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif. Rua, largely considered one of the top three light heavyweights in the world, was systematically dismantled by Forrest Griffin, succumbing to exhaustion and a rear-naked choke in the third round’s final seconds. With Griffin not even ranked in the top ten, the loss was considered a sizable upset, only matched by former light heavyweight champion Liddell’s defeat to Keith Jardine via a split decision a few moments later.
Liddell’s second consecutive loss successfully derailed a New Year’s Eve collision with former PRIDE light heavyweight champion Wanderlei Silva, who sat cageside shaking his head following Saturday’s results. The pairing of Silva and Liddell has been long sought-after by UFC president Dana White.
Popular San Luis Obispo trainer Hackleman says his camp had already been alerted that a match-up with the Brazilian Chute Boxe member could be on the horizon. In response, Hackleman approached both White and UFC matchmaker Joe Silva Saturday night to make it known Liddell’s team was favorable to the bout, which could take place as early as Dec. 29’s UFC 79 in Las Vegas, Nev.
“Chuck will face anyone they put in front of him,” says Hackleman. Due to their formidable records, a bout between Liddell and Rua would catapult either fighter back into title contention.
Speculation of Liddell’s retirement surfaced Saturday following a routine post-fight press conference where the 37-year-old deferred comments regarding his next career move and intonated he would have to mull things over.
“You’re dealing with a guy that just lost a fight, is totally depressed right after a humungous loss,” says Hackleman, who was not present at the press conference. “Of course, he’s disappointed. We didn’t get into details about the fight, especially after a loss, because that’s not the time you want to talk about it. We usually talk about it when we get back in the gym.”
Hackleman has his theories as to what went wrong for his prized student in the cage he dominated for four years till his defeat at the hands of Quinton "Rampage" Jackson last May at UFC 71.
“I think things went wrong with Keith Jardine. Keith Jardine came out and fought like a freakin’ killer," says Hackleman. "Chuck just couldn’t pull the trigger in time and was just a hair off and Jardine’s timing was perfect.”
Source: http://thefightnetwork.com/news_detail.php?nid=4933
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| Catalyst 317th Post
Bronze Customer
| "Gekiganger Tell me this is not going down..." , posted Thu 11 Oct 09:56
http://www.thefightnetwork.com/news_detail.php?nid=5076
PRIDE Heavyweight Champion To Headline First Show Under New Ownership
By Loretta Hunt (loretta@thefightnetwork.com)
PRIDE heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko has committed exclusively to the new ownership of M-1 Mix-Fight Championship, which has been purchased outright by an undisclosed American entertainment-related company, according to a source close to the deal who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Established in 1997, the St. Petersburg-based M-1 held over 30 events under the ownership of Russian businessman Vadim Finkelstein, also the long-time manager of the much-sought-after Emelianenko. Finkelstein is also the proprietor of the Red Devil Sports Club, a facility and team that houses numerous Russian fighters, including PRIDE veteran Roman Zentsov and former UFC middleweight Andrei Semenov.
The source confirmed the new ownership has infused a substantial amount of capital into the organization. Finkelstein and others will stay on to assist in running the company, which will continue to promote under a variation of the M-1 name. The new M-1 will take more of a global stance, and Emelianenko (26-1) will headline its inaugural event as early as January or February, possibly in the U.S., the source said.
On March 27, Ultimate Fighting Championship majority owners Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta bought the assets of PRIDE, only to discover Emelianenko had previously signed a non-exclusive, non-transferable contract with its former owners, Dream Stage Entertainment.
As late as September, UFC president Dana White had insisted a deal with Emelianenko was imminent, though repeated negotiations between Finkelstein, colleague Apy Echteld and the Las Vegas outlet could not produce an agreement to bring the Stary Oskol resident to the famed Octagon. A major point of contention was White’s insistence Emelianenko sign an exclusive contract with the American promotion, which would exclude Emelianenko’s participation in Sambo competitions. Emelianenko is a three-time World Combat Sambo champion and ambassador for the sport in his homeland.
Undefeated in 24 fights (including one no contest), Emelianenko is widely received as the world’s top pound-for-pound fighter. The 31-year-old former Army firefighter rose to the top of PRIDE’s ranks by besting standouts like Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (30-4-1) and Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic (22-6-2). Emelianenko submitted 2000 Olympic Greco-Roman silver medallist Matt Lindland (20-5) at Bodog Fight “Clash of the Nations” on April 14 in St. Petersburg, Russia. He has not competed since.
A formal announcement of the purchase, as well as plans for the new organization’s first event, is expected by the end of this month.
POSTED -- 10/10/07
Dude tell me i'm wrong or somethin man I couldn't possibly be reading this.
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| Catalyst 324th Post
Bronze Customer
| "Re(1):UFC figures & 77 predictions" , posted Sat 20 Oct 14:16
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From Fwoosh
I like the Rampage figure, but that's about it. I hope they are 8-10 inches tall to justify the $17 price tag.
Now on to 77 predictions. I know it is pretty risky to make predictions recently, but what the hell.
Anderson of Franklin by the end of the second round.
Vera over Sylvia by decision. I say decision because I think Sylvia will try to find a way "not to lose."
Okami over MacDonald. MacDonald said he will try to set the pace early on which is what you need to do to Okami since he is a slow starter, but if Franklin couldn't finish him I don't see MacDonald doing it.
Man I'd love to have an action figure of myself one day if I ever can put both my feet down about wanting to fight professionally lol. Too bad the UFC doesn't have a featherweight division unless you look to WEC or Shooto or K-1. Either way Sweet figures!
Part of me says Rich has something to prove and the dismantling of his first fight might be on him with all the additional pressure he has from being in his home town. Personally I honestly think the aggressive rich is going to be out. But even he says himself that his form is not usually the greatest when striking in practice. I don't know how he says about his skills in accordance to ground skills but I hope he doesn't say that either way just enough for Anderson to exploit him and look for the fastest and simplest mistake. Rich does have a puncher's chance though not to take anything away from him. Silva just has to slip up.
Anderson round 1 by KO,
Vera or Sylvia in my opinion can go either way. Both fighters in my opinion are just fine well excusing Sylvia's tactics of course and his right straight. I don't wanna call this one, this one I'd like to sit, analyze, and watch.
No call, but going to decision.
Okami and Mcdonald. Okami all the way with you on that Geki. Mcdonald just wants to keep pressing and pressing Okami. Personally, I'm not in the head of these fighters but I think the pressure got to him when he was fighting Rich Franklin. I'm not sure what the odds were but it was a pretty reasonable set of odds for Either Okami or Franklin to be the winner of their fight.
Okami TKO Ground and pound.
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| Catalyst 327th Post
Bronze Customer
| "Re(1):77 results" , posted Sun 21 Oct 15:09:
My fight of the night began with Bonnar and catching the end of the previous fight before no comment on the previous match.
I didn't know that Bonnar was fighting tonight but great job on his win. Nothing much to be said on this one.
Gurgel, I had him favored winning this one. I honestly think the gas tank wasn't that there. Right at the end of the first round his breathing was heavy after the constant switching and positioning. Great job on both of them for that though bad for Gurgel to allow Robinson to posture up and fire away. He really tried looking to sink in an armbar constantly with an open guard then it got bad to the point where he couldn't hold it.
Vera, honestly I thought he was doing fine personally? He has a broken hand to me I honestly shouldn't be saying "so what" but your a fighter it is what you came to do. Fedor fought Crocop with a broken hand and still took it home. Should I say that it sucks to have a hand broken, yes it does suck, but I mean really go for broke. I honestly thought if he pressed it more just like Tim Sylvia he would have been just fine. The weight was such a big factor but I watched as Vera got caught twice with two right straights I thought he still had it in him just wasn't letting his hands fly enough. Beautiful left though at the close of the first round.
I thought though he did get points taken off the knee to the head to Sylvia? I thought Vera won round 1 and possibly 2 due to the last minute strikes at the end of round 2. I do agree that he should be knowing of the rules of course. I was wondering what was with the unanimous decision. Possibly split if I'm not mistaken.
Silva,
As Barett from FF7 said
"You jez full of suprises"
That had to be one beautiful, BEAUTIFUL, fight.
I had a feeling Rich's striking wasn't that ready yet. Though he was ready and waiting for that clinch. I like how Anderson tricked him catching him with that short right directly to the head of round 1. To me, I think Rich's game plan was to stand and bang but over emphasize on watching for that clinch. Caught him again for round 2 then laid it on him from downstairs to upstairs striking for the finish. Good hustle for Rich though great try.
*High five to gekiganger*
Definitely shun goku satsu damage dude!
   
and then Rich Franklin's nose.
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Yeah that was seriously not cool not airing the Okami, mcdonald fight. Reading the play by play's it sounded really good. Hey if Okami can get to Silva, Silva has his revenge match against him and that just solidifies him even further.
Oh and ...
I always keep forgetting this but thank god for ring girls 
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| GekigangerV 1453th Post
Red Carpet Executive Member
| "Re(2):Wanderlei vs Chuck" , posted Fri 26 Oct 04:46
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As for Rich Franklin and his orthodox stance vs Silva's southpaw he has options to work with though southpaw such as the right cross. In itself is a tricky stance against those fighting in an orthodox stance hence as you said Rich hitting outward because of Silva.
If he just started training southpaw for that specific fight I think personally it would get a lot to be used to. I never sparred personally with Southpaw's in my muay thai practice but I'm mostly with orthodox. However, if you think about it the response from your opponent and what you receive back messes with the person entirely. I suppose in example where I played southpaw against my brother, he had a hard time tagging me and we were just play fighting nothing serious.
If it was Southpaw vs southpaw in a situation the response you'll see correct responses in counter punching, block, slipping, you name it. Wish I could give you more information but i'm pretty limited to that unless I learn more. Probably your brother can explain it better than I do, all I can say is it is pretty agitating to fight against one in sum of the information. Kinda like the saying goes what you don't know can hurt you, literally for Franklin. Good try though from a great guy.
What I meant is both Franklin and Sivla are primarily lefties. Even southpaws themselves sometimes don't want to fight each other because they're used to fighting right-handed fighters and get caught up in their own tricks. It's just that Franklin was circling to his right and throwing punches in Silva's outward direction. If Silva was an orthodox fighter, Franklin could have landed some hits on him judging by the way he was throwing the punches at him. Usually southpaws move to their right just to avoid the opponent's right hand and to utilize their left straight and right hook against a righty. That's how some of Franklin's movements looked like to me.
And yeah, Silva was totally slipping Franklin's punches in a very weird but super style and showed great defense. Plus, Little Nog, who is also a southpaw is one of his training partners and probably knows how to fight fellow southpaws like himself. Franklin just didn't seem to know how to fight against another southpaw though he is one.
Silva in that fight just proved he was in a different class on his own by dominating Franklin who could have dominated that division if he didn't come in. Too bad Chonan who previously defeated him (despite Sivla having a broken foot) is dropping down so he can't get his revenge match. Chonan actually fought Silva's clinch pretty well in that Pride fight.
On the subject of Wandy vs Iceman
As for the former Pride fighter upsets going on with Crocop and Shogun, on the other hand, two of the title holders are former Pride fighters themselves so don't count out all Pride fighters yet. But it's Crocop and Shogun's own fault that they're screwing up in the UFC so far. Especially when Shogun only went for take downs and Griffin is known for his sprawl and brawl.
But in the future, I hope for future signings. Like I'd love to see Igor Vochaynchyn. The ultimate match up of Iceman vs Ice Cold, lol. That would be a great match up. Despite his ring antics and un-professionalism, I have always found Gilbert Yvel entertaining, but he'll never got approved to fight in the states. Heck, I won't be surprised if they give Wandy a rematch at Tito down the line. Though it would be cool if the UFC got Vitor Belfort back and gave him that rematch as well.
Anyway, Couture is supposed to have a press conference today about his resignation. I think it's still sad he had to leave, but the future is still bright for UFC and MMA with or without him. Especially with fighters like Jackson and Anderson Silva around. Personally, I favor Big Nog being the next champion despite his lackluster debut. But yeah, like boxing, the heavyweight division in MMA is more or less lackluster. Pride got the best that division had to offer and made a great heavyweight pool of talent, but with Pride's absence and some fighters not coming over, heavyweight fights aren't that exciting anymore.
Hopefully the Crocop that plowed through the 2006 GP will come back. I hope Crocop is not on a decline because he just had the greatest performance of his career during that tournament. Then again, some critics said the same about Rampage being on a decline and he became the first ever undisputed 205 champion and could stay champ for a long time. Maybe Crocop needs Juanito now =P.
Ultimate Fighter last night was load of bull. I thought Dan Barrera won the first round of that fight easily. I don't get how the judges gave the first round to Ben. Despite how much of a self absorbed jerk Hughes comes across, he was right to go to the commissioner's face and express his outrage. Then again, this isn't the first time, nor will it be the last time we'll see bull crap decisions on not only the Ultimate Fighter, but in live UFC events as well.
Now I'll end it with some of my thoughts on Bisping vs Evans. I lost my respect for Bisping after getting a home town decision against Hammill. I scored every round for Hammill and it just made a lot of fans feel insulted that Bisping himself was convinced he got the decision. To me, behaving in that matter after winning in such a fraud fashion just disgusts me and shows no class.
I mean, it would be as ridiculous as Mike Swick getting a hometown decision against Yushin Okami when they fought in Swick's are of Houston. Then again, misjudged decisions are unfortunately part of the game. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm surprised Dana or Hammill's camp didn't demanded an investigation. Because of Bisping's behavior after that fight, I hope Evans knocks his head off. Evans has fought the better competition so I'm picking him to win.
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| Catalyst 335th Post
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| "Re(3):Wanderlei vs Chuck" , posted Fri 26 Oct 06:36:
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What I meant is both Franklin and Sivla are primarily lefties. Even southpaws themselves sometimes don't want to fight each other because they're used to fighting right-handed fighters and get caught up in their own tricks. It's just that Franklin was circling to his right and throwing punches in Silva's outward direction. If Silva was an orthodox fighter, Franklin could have landed some hits on him judging by the way he was throwing the punches at him. Usually southpaws move to their right just to avoid the opponent's right hand and to utilize their left straight and right hook against a righty. That's how some of Franklin's movements looked like to me.
Wish I had a streaming video of it and now that I remember part of it yea your right. I was stating more on the ends of Franklin's training partners being orthodox while he is a Southpaw in training. [Sorry for the bad misconception]
The general rule of thumb is to avoid the other opponents power hand if he is a southpaw in that case. I would wonder if you could hook off the jab in terms of MMA striking but of course striking --> is the set up for the take downs and not trying to linger in a stand up fight long or a grappling fight either in showing one's strategy.
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Silva in that fight just proved he was in a different class on his own by dominating Franklin who could have dominated that division if he didn't come in. Too bad Chonan who previously defeated him (despite Sivla having a broken foot) is dropping down so he can't get his revenge match. Chonan actually fought Silva's clinch pretty well in that Pride fight.
As much as I like Silva, I wish Chonan the best of success personally but I honestly don't think middleweight is the best class for him. I agree he did fine against Silva in pride, I'm not sure about a second time fight against Silva but I don't think middleweight is the best class for Chonan. Only person I can see Silva fighting anytime soon is maybe Hendo, hendo has got one thick skull. But I believe in recent interviews he wishes to stay at light heavyweight for now while he holds on to other belt.
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As for the former Pride fighter upsets going on with Crocop and Shogun, on the other hand, two of the title holders are former Pride fighters themselves so don't count out all Pride fighters yet. But it's Crocop and Shogun's own fault that they're screwing up in the UFC so far. Especially when Shogun only went for take downs and Griffin is known for his sprawl and brawl.
That is true~ Crocop's fight against Kongo was a bit wierd, I heard he did great in the first round but just let it go after the other 2. I mean just cause you can't get your knock out doesn't mean give it quits now when your absolutely dominating striking wise in your own field.
On the Mirko Crocop website, I believe he recently said he got surgery for having a deviated septum to fix some breathing problems but still wishes to come back strong and not let anyone down based on his last performances. Hope that was the case though.
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But in the future, I hope for future signings. Like I'd love to see Igor Vochaynchyn. The ultimate match up of Iceman vs Ice Cold, lol. That would be a great match up. Despite his ring antics and un-professionalism, I have always found Gilbert Yvel entertaining, but he'll never got approved to fight in the states. Heck, I won't be surprised if they give Wandy a rematch at Tito down the line. Though it would be cool if the UFC got Vitor Belfort back and gave him that rematch as well.
Speaking of which where is Igor anyways? For Wandy I hope he gets all his rematches well maybe not Vitor since he isn't there but hey if it solidifies him the more the better! I really really wanted to see that Shogun Babalu fight but that was such bullshit that they made such a big deal over the submission. It didn't even look that bad nor long, the ref should of been more proactive besides just tapping babalu.
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Ultimate Fighter last night was load of bull.
Since I don't have cable I can't watch the Ultimate fighter on spike so I keep up with it slightly. I watched the first season video recorded though for support of MMA but after that I just couldn't stand the people they were getting on the show. I've heard tid bits about this season's ultimate fighter and I think Mac Danzig said it best with the kind of people they have in the house. Immature and such. Where in the world are they picking these people?! Especially that Matt Serra's student. Some of these people seriously need a slap upside. I'll have to read up on last nights episode so we can talk about it. Though he doesn't top the cake as bad Gabe from last season. Hah a funny cake and gabe in the same sentence.
I also heard a famous quote with the cookyness of Matt Hughes team and ugh ground "fighting" persay. "We're just doing... this."
HAHA.
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Now I'll end it with some of my thoughts on Bisping vs Evans. I lost my respect for Bisping after getting a home town decision against Hammill. I scored every round for Hammill and it just made a lot of fans feel insulted that Bisping himself was convinced he got the decision. To me, behaving in that matter after winning in such a fraud fashion just disgusts me and shows no class.
I think Dana White is really trying hard to hit that European market on Bispings end and butt heads with Cage rage. But even so, that has to be retarded indeed. Rumor has it that the Cash flow isn't going so great with the Pride FC revival going defunct and closing the office and not getting a TV deal, then the expensive trips to Europe.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm surprised Dana or Hammill's camp didn't demanded an investigation. Because of Bisping's behavior after that fight, I hope Evans knocks his head off. Evans has fought the better competition so I'm picking him to win.
I haven't heard anything to be honest or probably missed it usually Sherdog stays on top of interviewing fighters on controversial losses and such. Dana White, I don't think he really cares and leaves it up to the comission and the fighters to petition but that is my assumption of course.
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| catalyst 368th Post
Silver Customer
| "News and later commentary for 81." , posted Sun 3 Feb 17:28
What's up Gekiganger! Hope everything is going alright with you. I may have missed UFC 81 but I will commentate on it tomorrow from brief news tidbits I picked up.
But! In the meantime I figured you might like these news tidbits since were both Barnett fans. Go M. Bison! Along with of course known miscellaneous news such as Shogun Vs Lidell coming in June ala Revenge match.
From Sherdog.com http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=11131:
World Victory Road has confirmed that Japanese star Hidehiko Yoshida (Pictures) will meet Josh Barnett (Pictures) in the main event of the promotion's March 5 debut card at Yoyogi National Gymnasium No. 1 in Tokyo, Japan.
It was previously expected that the Barcelona Games judo gold medalist would meet star grappler Roger Gracie (Pictures) in the marquee fight for the Sengoku card. After aggressively pursuing the free agent Barnett, WVR reportedly changed plans for their main event last week.
A source has confirmed to Sherdog.com that Gracie will be on hand at Yoyogi National Gymnasium No. 1 for the event, where WVR will announce his participation for its second event, slated for May. The source further confirmed that WVR hoped to build toward a Gracie-Yoshida fight in the fall.
Yoshida, 38, has not competed since New Year's Eve of 2006, where he was stopped in brutal fashion by English heavyweight James Thompson (Pictures).
Barnett also last competed in MMA on NYE 2006, having dropped a unanimous decision to now-UFC champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Pictures) in their rematch.
Another tidbit if your into the Lightweight class
Takanori Gomi also joins World Victory Road and will be participating in Sengoku.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=11082
Of course this has been confirmed that he is getting paid 190,000 per fight. I believe Josh gross has stated at one point his sponsors just give him way to much money alone.
What I find wierd is his akward commentary based on his personal webblog.
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"I would like to deliver a fight which has more impact than before."
"By watching UFC on NYE, I felt the MMA boom for the past 10 years had ended. I felt I wanted make a new start and I confirmed that a new event is where I fight next."
" Fighting outside of Japan attracts me, but I decided to fight close to most of my fans."
Wonder what he means by the MMA boom has ended? Maybe the older generation has made its passing and the new age of fighters have came in but I wonder what he would really mean by that.
http://sukimma.blogspot.com/ Translated blog spot there.
Commentary on UFC 81 tomorrow!
This song is so true
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| catalyst 376th Post
Silver Customer
| "Re(1):WEC and other stuff." , posted Thu 14 Feb 15:01:
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We kind of go back and forth on the ground, but I have a 40 pound weight advantage on him and my rubber guard isn't too bad. I can transition to an omoplata rather quickly. He is better standing up, he trained with Hayato Sakurai's kick boxing instructor for a bit and with Japan's current minimum weight boxing champion who is also world ranked. He's also a southpaw which messes up my rhythm.
Wow that seriously right there is a great accomplishment for your brother to put on the resume for sure. I'd be proud to say I got myself handed to him even if it was a sparring session! Your no slouch either awesome work for youself too! I wish I knew more and could actually be apart of a full mma gym to understand more of the ground game but the closest thing I have to that is a book on BJ Penn "The book of Knowledge" I like it because it is very detailed but of course nothing will ever take away from the experience of learning.
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That sucks to hear about your bro. He doesn't have any vision loss does he?
Only in one eye its partial he came very close to having no vision. He has some vision but really not that great at all from releasing high pressure that is in his eye. What has accumulated to it is numerous times throughout his life tennis being one half of the factor because a simple forehand came and the ball hit him directly in his eye. Then the clincher was with muay thai practice during a sparring session bad elbow to the eye from what I believe is an irresponsible and uncontrolled sparring partner.
However, my bro refutes that it is was partly his fault for dropping his hands at the wrong moment. Impact trauma and glaucoma, for this it results in him keeping his hand up over his right eye and unable to do sparring whatsoever just regular focus mitt drills, heavy bag, and etc.
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Good showing by Varner. He could have been a bit cooler when asking for his mouth piece back though. I don't think it was too controversial as he had gotten from space from Rob and wasn't following up right away, but I am sure there will be a lot of people saying it was a way to get 10 seconds to recover.
Yeah I didn't think it was controversial at all either. Varner definitely won fair and square and brought it to Rob. Good show indeed.
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Yeah, apparently he signed with K1's MMA branch. His loss to Gonzaga was devastating, but I still feel that Kongo should have ended in a draw. I how Heath takes Kongo down in the first round.
From what I've read on sherdog and numerous tabulations the organization is a big portion of Pride's former staff and employees. I also checked on their forums but I'm not sure if it is unconfirmed but Dana White is pretty much cool with Crocop going letting him tune himself up before he returns back to the UFC. I really, really do hope crocop considers to come back and fight to regain the aura that comes about him as well as his title as a dangerous striker.
This song is so true
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Silver Customer
| "Re(1):Elite XC, Huerta in Tekken movie and ot" , posted Fri 22 Feb 02:21:
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Kimbo Slice beat Tank Abbot in a fight that really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but put asses in seats.
However, what is shocking is that a fighter was paid
$1 and won.
Link Here
This HAS to be illegal on some level.
I highly agree just as much as Arkansas and putting kids barely, BARELY reaching 12 in full MMA combat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30jiK1CDvug
Never mind I realized the link was removed by user. But the rules are pretty much straight 4 ounces mma gloves, no head gear, no elbows. If I find the video again i'll repost it but either way one of the kids knew how to technically use the cage to his advantage and the background consisted mostly of friends and family. Whoever was the sanctioning commitee that approved of this should be shot repeatedly. Pure bred fight league in Arkansas, hah more like inbred fight league.
I understand that in Thailand the economy is so freaking dirt poor that kids over there have to fight but at that point they would have to retire early due to lack of bone development and hurting themselves. That and some kids who are put in that situation of such a big environment probably won't be able to handle the pressure, obviously like the kid in the video he was standing there stiff like he didn't want to be there!?
But Back on topic:
It has to be illegal in some way or manner but however in refutation, if his manager and elite XC agreed to the contract then I suppose there has to be no legal clause to some degree. But in any case if Elite XC is supposed to be a high up "professional" mma matches that are supposed to be about, the fighter that got paid 1 dollar shouldn't even be there. Shouldn't Gabin be considered an amateur mma fighter instead? I know for sure that in amateur mma your just competing normally but without pay. It is when you get paid your supposed to be a professional
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http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/2008/02/tito-ortiz-and-dana-white-war-of-words.html
Speaking of money check this little strangle between Ortiz and White. Hope this helps emphasize on the one dollar situation
and good job for Kimbo, hope he gradually improves on himself. Though I really think his competition should be alot better now.
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Speaking of putting asses in seats. Brock Lesnar pushed UFC 81 past 600,000 buys
Link Here
Let's see how much longer his hype will last.
Nice, more fans the better and hopefully more credible the sport!
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Roger Huerta will play Matador in the Tekken movie
Link Here
I haven't played Tekken since 3 so I don't know who this guy is. I was thinking that Huerta would get a title shot this year. Hopefully this won't hinder his career.
Me neither I haven't played a tekken game in a while either probably a little small taste of the game but I'm surprised the movie is serious about production and being made. Then again of course there is the street fighter movie so kinda moot point on my end x.x...
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Coleman will be inducted in the UFC hall of fame at 82. He deserves it.
Awesome!
This song is so true
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Silver Customer
| "Re(1):82 thoughts, news and World Victory Roa" , posted Fri 7 Mar 01:19:
As according to the director of the movie, I'm just repeating out of what he said directly. I'd like to know myself personally which he would be referring to.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LS_FO8x-hO4&feature=related
[unless i'm hearing it wrong please feel free to correct me, he mentions someone else before hand as an omagebut I can't really make the mumbling from that point]
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This film has a nice pedigree, and I think it'll get noticed as a serious movie, and not a novelty action flick. It also has that Brazilian actress from City of God and I am Legend, who seems to be a real hot item right now.
That's actually really good then! I think i'm going to be looking forward to this movie!
As for UFC 82 and Joe Rogan:
The dude is usually blitzed high, can we really blame him on what he says? I mean really now the man tokes, his choice not ours but as the output maybe its gonna be either be one thing or the other.
Personally, I rather here the pride announcer who Bas and Mirko pulled a pranked on. One moment he is calm the next minute he is screaming like crazy.
Fights basing off play by play:
I really hope to see Fitch as a contender soon, or personally against Matt Hughes I wonder what the outcome would be like.
Great job for Okami, I heard he was a bit more aggressive this time around and finished the fight off with a clean knee.
Technically speaking I heard the match between Herring and Kongo was horrendous, but entertainment wise it was pretty nice. What would you say of his striking? I checked out MMAweekly and apparently he went for a training camp with Rob Kaman. Now Rob Kaman is one hell of a muay thai fighter/kickboxer back in the day. Can't say I agree with his rainbow shorts but either way he is along the lines with Ramon Dekker. Any improvements via pride days to now in the UFC?
Speaking of Pride the knees to the body was just thankful! Those years were worth something after all!
Anderson Silva going to be champ for a very long time. I really thought Henderson could hang for quite a bit but not even past the second round.
Sucks for Shogun's behalf but hope he gets better. Recurring injuries are never fun.
UPDATE: Rashad Evans will be fighting Liddell. awkward setup between those two but hm.
Lastly WVR Sengoku:
Jesus even though Gomi cutted from 180 to 154 the man still hits like a mack truck.
Though I'd like to ask a question directed to yourself or your brother geki: I checked out a video on Gomi's gym on the way he practices on a heavy bag and I don't particularly understand his methodology of having his boxing bandaged hands while working the heavy bag. I thought that the whole purpose of having boxing gloves is to protect your hands from breaking so you can commit to your punches more?
http://t-gomi.com/rascal_gym/index.html
and Josh Barnett for the win and his suplex! Really hope he gets it up against Fedor one day.
This song is so true
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Red Carpet V.I.P- Platinum Member
| "The GekigangerV and Catalyst MMA thred" , posted Sun 20 Apr 15:17
Serra vs GSP 2 thoughts
Danzig vs Bocheck
-Well, Boceck in comparison to Danzig's competiton on TUF was of course had more credentials with being a BJJ blackbelt and BJJ is Danzig's game, but he showed that devastating knee in round 2 or 3. Danzig just showed he was more of the complete fighter. I think Boceck's other match ups could probably be Alberto Crane.
I think Danzig should fight Diaz or Gamburyan next. I think they're great match ups for him. I thought the gogoplata attempt was really cool, but I think he should have gone for the locoplata instead.
Bisping vs McCarthy
-Bisping really looked small at 185, hell,he was small for a 205 fighter. He lost a lot of mass and his head looked really huge! He showed great submission defense. I think he could have worked the body more, but whatever he did, he won anyway regardless. Although McCarthy was covering up most of the blows(Bisping probably only connected 15-20% of his strikes). Bisping really needs to switch up between the body and legs as targets so he isn't so predictable.
Starnes vs Quarry
-What the fuck was up with Starnes!!?? Why was he running away!? The guy beat Leben and he was chicken to fight Quarry!!?? Starnes seemed to care more about going the distance than really fighting. If I were the ref, I would have warned him that if he kept on running away, I would take a point to the point where I disqualify him.
These are the kind of fights where American MMA needs a yellow card system. Plus, Starnes was in no position to throw the finger like Diaz did against Batman and the 30-24 score card was just different, but understandable at the same time. Nice taunting and Rocky IV speech by Quarry.
Lutter vs Franklin
-Lutter, meh, who gives a rat's ass about him anyway. Yeah, I'll admit he was impressive in taking down Franklin, but I got to give Lutter props for his control and submission attempts in round 1. But crazy arm bar escape by Franklin. This match up gave us another side to Franklin with his submission defense.
But Lutter in round 2 took WAY TOO MUCH punishment and should have been stopped earlier. But a great showing by Franklin. He probably needs to fight Henderson before getting a shot at Silva again.
-GSP Vs Serra 2
Obviously GSP really wanted nothing to do with Serra's stand up. Of course GSP used wrestling instead. Serra for awhile used descent guard game, but I think if he knew the rubber guard, he would have done better breaking GSP's posture at times. But excellent use of knees on the ground by GSP. I say GSP's next challenge could be John Fitch.
Overall, a descent card.
In other news, it turns out one of my brother's gym mates is on the current season of the Ultimate Fighter. C.B. Dollaway, the first pick for team Rampage. He also does a weekly article for MMAjunkie.com after each episode airs. My brother doesn't know any spoilers though.
Jason Chambers(the dude from Human Weapon) is doing a seminar at the local branch of 10th Planet JiuJitsu and my bro is going to attend. They are also opening a branch of the Lion's Den here too. I might check it out. I just wish there was a place around here I could study catch wrestling though.
Also in super MEGA news.
Fedor vs Sylvia is official
If its under Japanese rules(with Ring and yellow card system) Sylvia has just the punchers chance, but that's about it. Fedor was rocked ONCE by Fujita, Sylvia just needs to reproduce that and he has a shot. However, the site says that the fight is happening in Dallas. I think Sylvia could edge out a decision under Unified rules if he could just keep his distance. This is one of the last real fights Fedor really needs. After this it would be Barnett. I don't care about Couture any more.
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| catalyst 396th Post
Silver Customer
| "Re(1):The GekigangerV and Catalyst MMA thred" , posted Sun 20 Apr 15:57:
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Serra vs GSP 2 thoughts
Danzig vs Bocheck
-Well, Boceck in comparison to Danzig's competiton on TUF was of course had more credentials with being a BJJ blackbelt and BJJ is Danzig's game, but he showed that devastating knee in round 2 or 3. Danzig just showed he was more of the complete fighter. I think Boceck's other match ups could probably be Alberto Crane.
I think Danzig should fight Diaz or Gamburyan next. I think they're great match ups for him. I thought the gogoplata attempt was really cool, but I think he should have gone for the locoplata instead.
Bisping vs McCarthy
-Bisping really looked small at 185, hell,he was small for a 205 fighter. He lost a lot of mass and his head looked really huge! He showed great submission defense. I think he could have worked the body more, but whatever he did, he won anyway regardless. Although McCarthy was covering up most of the blows(Bisping probably only connected 15-20% of his strikes). Bisping really needs to switch up between the body and legs as targets so he isn't so predictable.
Starnes vs Quarry
-What the fuck was up with Starnes!!?? Why was he running away!? The guy beat Leben and he was chicken to fight Quarry!!?? Starnes seemed to care more about going the distance than really fighting. If I were the ref, I would have warned him that if he kept on running away, I would take a point to the point where I disqualify him.
These are the kind of fights where American MMA needs a yellow card system. Plus, Starnes was in no position to throw the finger like Diaz did against Batman and the 30-24 score card was just different, but understandable at the same time. Nice taunting and Rocky IV speech by Quarry.
Lutter vs Franklin
-Lutter, meh, who gives a rat's ass about him anyway. Yeah, I'll admit he was impressive in taking down Franklin, but I got to give Lutter props for his control and submission attempts in round 1. But crazy arm bar escape by Franklin. This match up gave us another side to Franklin with his submission defense.
But Lutter in round 2 took WAY TOO MUCH punishment and should have been stopped earlier. But a great showing by Franklin. He probably needs to fight Henderson before getting a shot at Silva again.
-GSP Vs Serra 2
Obviously GSP really wanted nothing to do with Serra's stand up. Of course GSP used wrestling instead. Serra for awhile used descent guard game, but I think if he knew the rubber guard, he would have done better breaking GSP's posture at times. But excellent use of knees on the ground by GSP. I say GSP's next challenge could be John Fitch.
Thanks for the insight review dude, right now I'm swamped in work but taking a look at this and the play by plays is really good info
Few things I would like to comment though:
Nate diaz and the batman finger was awesome, it's cocky but man thats awesome but in application to Starnes is a just no. Reading that he was running like an Olympic marathon runner really isn't something to be mad about at the judges for his own fault. I do agree indeed a yellow card would be nice at that point.
Just from personal inquiry, I wonder why GSP does not feel so confident standing with Serra? In my opinion I think he is a superb striker despite his loss to Serra. Pulling off that trade mark super man punch is pretty hard to do I would imagine and we all seen what he has done to matt hughes on several different occasions. Though I won't complain that is a good way to stop Serra.
Looking forward to seeing John Fitch vs GSP as well as a Hendo vs Franklin.
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Overall, a descent card.
In other news, it turns out one of my brother's gym mates is on the current season of the Ultimate Fighter. C.B. Dollaway, the first pick for team Rampage. He also does a weekly article for MMAjunkie.com after each episode airs. My brother doesn't know any spoilers though.
Jason Chambers(the dude from Human Weapon) is doing a seminar at the local branch of 10th Planet JiuJitsu and my bro is going to attend. They are also opening a branch of the Lion's Den here too. I might check it out. I just wish there was a place around here I could study catch wrestling though.
Also in super MEGA news.
Fedor vs Sylvia is official
If its under Japanese rules(with Ring and yellow card system) Sylvia has just the punchers chance, but that's about it. Fedor was rocked ONCE by Fujita, Sylvia just needs to reproduce that and he has a shot. However, the site says that the fight is happening in Dallas. I think Sylvia could edge out a decision under Unified rules if he could just keep his distance. This is one of the last real fights Fedor really needs. After this it would be Barnett. I don't care about Couture any more.
Dude you should totally go if you get the chance to go train with Jason Chambers. You already train with your brother and at the gym plus have the eddie bravo book to help you out that would be great to understand more and help yourself as well! Have fun dude if you can go!
According to the miletich gym in houston, Anderson Silva and Urijah Faber are coming for training sessions and autograph sessions along with Nogueira, Hendo, and Pat Miletich. I would love to sign up for this gym the prices are fair but the schedule doesn't fit well with myself and school.
http://mfshou.com/Announcements/Entries/2008/5/17_Entry_1.html
As for catch wrestling, well hm.
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66757&page=2&highlight=catch+wrestling
Consider the stuff here on this forum I usually visit on consideration of catch wrestling. A few folks on their catch wrestle. In honesty dude? Your pretty good with what you and your brother have in terms of jiujitsu. There is a lot of great information posted on their about catch wrestling and implementation. Not to say Catch wrestling is bad entirely but as as they state it really isn't that great as a grappling base. Keep an open mind is all.
I would love to post more on this forum above but as I've stated it is only a hobby and I don't have all the knowledge necessary to post anything technical as the folks there.
That is awesome to hear that your bro's team mate is on the Ultimate fighter I shall be rooting for him!
As for Fedor and Sylvia I too believe it can go both ways i'm looking forward to seeing Fedor pull a type of take down like Sylvia did to get a submission on him. Couture? man he is just taking forever he has to get out there some how.
Hope that info helps dude.
This song is so true
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| GekigangerV 1563th Post
Red Carpet V.I.P- Platinum Member
| "Elite XC result spoilers" , posted Sun 1 Jun 15:04
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Wow that figure looks great! Now, what are the odds of me finding Sakuraba at KB Toys?
None, unless the toy company can sign Sakuraba to do a figure on him.
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
JON MURPHY VS. BRETT ROGERS
PHIL BARONI VS. JOEY VILLASENOR
Not much to say about the first two fights since they ended so fast. Baroni is near the end of the line. The guy is 10-10 now.
GINA CARANO VS. KAITLIN YOUNG
The first woman's MMA match I have seen and it impressed me, but both could work on their technique. Young could have clinched at times and utilized overhook-underhook. I was surprised to see that they got 3-minute rounds though.
ROBBIE LAWLER VS. SCOTT SMITH
I hated that crowd. It really pissed me off that they acted like that. It was a very good brawling match and well on it's way on being remembered for its display of heart and punching skill. It sucks it was stopped, but you shouldn't tell a doctor you can't see twice. Probably phrase your answer in something like you are recovering your sight or something.
"KIMBO SLICE" VS. JAMES THOMPSON
Thompson showed a good recovery rate considering he has been known to have a weak chin. He was winning that fight on the ground. Even though he was throwing weak punches and elbows at the end of round 2, they went unanswered. Both men were gassed by the end of round 1, but it showed more on Kimbo. That stoppage was bullshit. It's true Thompson was wobbly, but he was in every round before that and was able to get the recovery. The nasty thing on his ear popped, but unless I see a picture where it shows that he was in danger of losing his ear or something I think Thompson could have gotten the take down and gotten the decision.
To me, it looked that they were protecting Kimbo and the second it looked like he was winning they called the fight in his favor.
End of Spoiler
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| catalyst 417th Post
Gold Customer
| "Re(1):Elite XC results & bigblacksecurity.com" , posted Sun 1 Jun 16:03:
Gekiganger you got Aim by any chance? I'd be happy to shoot you my screen name and we shoot the shit on mma, boxing, or whatever!
Cool Rampage figure that you got, much better price than the 40 dollar one you saw in Japan. Nice Ryu and captain america Also! The captain America figure looks similar to my statue except the captain America I have has like a mini cement wall attached to his leg as if he was breaking through one.
Also for the SF 4 commercial: Faith no more, yeah that was quite epic indeed! Even though it wasn't anything new
I didn't know this but the under card fights are completely streaming online as well for Yahoo if I'm not mistaken.
Random rant: And another tidbit, when in the hell was Bruce Lee the father of MMA? Seriously in its own right it is great that his theory upon martial arts was fine but it was just that as a pioneer. I mean hell you might as well call Sambo MMA or don't even forget Pankration. That and he is a movie actor dispelling any BS that flies about him, he was never a fighter just an actor.
By any chance did it feel like you were watching an NBA event? Like CBS college basketball, it felt like that for the presentation.
Onto the fights
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Wild Swinging for the win.
Big black security.com and big pun and fat joe's crew too for the knockout.
Baroni, give it up, your just a bodybuilder that is all.
Gina Carano vs Kaitilin Young
Honestly I was rooting for Young due to the fellows on Bullshido actually speak very highly of her. She has fought a member on the board in a professional muay thai match very good striker as she showed tonight and tons and tons of heart. Would of liked her to win despite Gina's imbalance in weight. Not to say that Gina is bad I just wish she would take it seriously. Great overhand right and this is the first in a while i've seen teeps in a MMA fight.
Both pretty girls. I didn't expect Gina to attempt a Gogoplata. I think that is the new craze after what Diaz did to Gomi.
Lawler vs Smith
"Take that CBS!" Surprised they didn't censor the crowd's chanting of "bullshit". Which I agree that has to be only booing on the premature stoppage not on the fight. Seriously I really just think they are just new fans just there to see Kimbo honestly and know nothing of the sport.
Not much to comment here but Wild swinging for the win yet again. I don't know why Smith wasn't listening to his coach telling him to mix in those kicks with punches so they won't be detected instead of throwing them as broad daylight. Great Kick to the liver from Robbie just wish he was adamant on focusing his punches to the liver cause it looked like some major damage going on there.
But for the most part lots of heart and lots of fight, and an eye poke. At first I could of sworn Smith was saying in reiteration of the eye poke everything was okay, then you can see him later desperately trying to bring it together and still say he is fine. I think it was a BS call from the doctor honestly. Though I don't know what to think personally if they were afraid of letting it all hang out for CBS or.. what.
Kimbo vs. Thompson
I'm a thompson fan personally, win or lose. Honestly I thought he was gonna lose tonight but he made me extremely, extremely happy. Well okay i'm exaggerating a tad but he did get somewhat better. For a brief time he did trained at xtreme couture as well. From the submission defense against the guillotine and not doing his traditional gong and dash. Man I was so happy for Thompson.
But that had to single handedly the biggest bullshit stoppage I have ever seen. Elite XC is clearly protecting Kimbo and I clearly think Bas isn't training Kimbo as he should be and just focusing on crisping his striking. The routine i've heard that what Kimbo is focusing on is great on cardio but I'm sure you and your brother can clearly agree that when it comes down to grappling, you better be well conditioned in grappling when your sparring because it is so much more rather than typical anaerobic exercises.
Counting on a minute and 15 seconds about that stoppage should of DEFINITELY occured. Kimbo was not intelligently defending himself and gas prices certainly raised in Kimbo seeing he really was extremely tired. Disappointed too from what I could tell on his expression.
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| GekigangerV 1577th Post
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| "Jackson Vs Griffin thoughts" , posted Mon 7 Jul 04:43
Tyson Griffin vs. Marcus Aurelio
Nice fight. I thought Griffin would take it to decision. Hopefully a title fight is in his future.
Josh Koscheck vs. Chris Lytle
I don't know why it wasn't stopped in the second round as Lytle was bloodied and was not getting any defense or offense in whatsoever. It was kind of cool that the blood formed a kind of TDK Joker smile. I thought the second round was the example of a 10-8 round, but one of the judges didn't score it that way. The scores were 30-26, 29-27, and 30-28. I guess that judge that gave it 30-28 thought that the first round was ever. I thought it was in Lytle's favor to be honest. Koscheck has shown a lot of improvement, but one has to wonder if he can ever take on GSP after his last attempt.
Patrick Cote vs. Ricardo Almeida
Not an exciting fight, but both fighters were waiting too long to initiate their plans. Cote will get annihilated by Silva if he brings that kind of game.
Quinton Jackson Vs. Forrest Griffin
I am of course disappointed that Rampage lost, but Xtreme Couture knows how to make game plans. You could also see the Wanderlei influence on Griffin's stand up. Under Pride judging, this fight obviously was in Griffin's favor as he tried to finish the fight and was the most active, but under the 10 point system rounds 3-5 could have swung either way depending on how you look at it.
Although Griffin was active in rounds 3-5, he didn't land much while Rampage only threw a fourth of the punches, but was more accurate and landed the more effective blows. Griffin obviously won round 2, but I don't think it was 10-8 like some people are saying. Koscheck/Lytle round 2 was 10-8 and the criteria for a 10-8 should be based on that kind of circumstance. Although Rampage was seriously hurt by the leg kicks, when the fight went to the ground Griffin didn't do much damage with the ground and pound and there was an Americana submission attempt that Rampage was able to escape. I think Rounds 1 and 4 went to Rampage, 2 and 5 to Griffin and 3 was a Draw as nobody did much. So I scored it a draw.
I am surprised that Griffin just backed off in Round 3 and didn't try more leg kicks. I was also surprised that Rampage wasn't able to check those leg kicks effectively. He only took about 7-8 before he got messed up.
If there is justice in the world Lyoto Machida should be the next challenger, followed by the winner of Chuck/Rashad followed by the winner of Wanderlei/Rampage III.
Griffin's chin is still suspect as he was knocked down rather easily by Rampage's punches so I think he will have a hard time keeping the belt if Machida and Chuck are the next challengers.
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"Re(1):Any MMA fans here?" , posted Sun 8 Jul 14:04
you'd be as clever as me." - Layer Cake
) and great resources. It is hard to utilize the rubber gaurd, but the twister seems a bit more useful, atleast to me that is. 
