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| Pollyanna 2026th Post
 
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|  "Re(3):Today is a horrible day" , posted Thu 12 Oct 09:37
If you like Tales games at all, I would make Abyss a priority. I can't speak for the English version...for all I know, they found some way to ruin the game, but from my experience it is one of only two truly excellent RPGs on the system.
I can't say the same for Raidou, although it's not a bad game.
God Hand is also one of my favorites on the system, and it's cheaper (and comes with the soundtrack, right?), so I'd say the ideal is ToA and God Hand, but if you're too poor then pick up God Hand later, as its blistering action might make TOA or Raidou seem boring by comparison.
Hmmm..that's a different way to look at it...if you play TOA, THEN Raidou, then Raidou will seem horrendously slow and boring in comparison. So from that perspective, the order of least exciting to most exciting, if you're SURE you're going to play all three is Raidou->TOA->God Hand.
Not like you asked for my advice or anything.
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| Pollyanna 2027th Post
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| "Re(5):Today is a horrible day" , posted Thu 12 Oct 11:54
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It could be as bad as Avatuna2, but I am sold on the setting (and cute girls) alone.
I didn't really think Avatar Tuner 2 was that bad...just "okay". The story was fairly interesting up until the ending, which was horrible...but the mazes and bosses were just average. I expect a lot more from a Megaten game. The first game, to me, had interesting mazes and bosses, but almost no plot to speak of. Raidou is just cursed by a boring (sluggish) battle system.
I'm confused as to what Tales games you hate, if you haven't played any next gen ones and you liked Eternia. You're saying you hate Phantasia and Destiny, right? I think both, are terribly overrated, and Destiny is (in my opinion) the worst in the series.
I enjoyed Eternia, tolerated Phantasia, did NOT tolerate Destiny, did not even BEGIN to tolerate Legendia, would have enjoyed Symphonia if it wasn't STUPIDLY EASY and enjoyed what I played of Rebirth, though I don't regret not finishing it. Oh wait, that leaves Destiny 2, which has the worst, most ridiculous story I've ever seen, but was tremendously fun all the same.
ToA is a class above all the others, but I still like the ToR battle system better. It seemed really clever and revolutionary that I thought it would become the standard.
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| Evenor 493th Post
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| "Re(6):Today is a horrible day" , posted Thu 12 Oct 12:28:
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It could be as bad as Avatuna2, but I am sold on the setting (and cute girls) alone.
I didn't really think Avatar Tuner 2 was that bad...just "okay". The story was fairly interesting up until the ending, which was horrible...but the mazes and bosses were just average. I expect a lot more from a Megaten game. The first game, to me, had interesting mazes and bosses, but almost no plot to speak of. Raidou is just cursed by a boring (sluggish) battle system.
I'm confused as to what Tales games you hate, if you haven't played any next gen ones and you liked Eternia. You're saying you hate Phantasia and Destiny, right? I think both, are terribly overrated, and Destiny is (in my opinion) the worst in the series.
I enjoyed Eternia, tolerated Phantasia, did NOT tolerate Destiny, did not even BEGIN to tolerate Legendia, would have enjoyed Symphonia if it wasn't STUPIDLY EASY and enjoyed what I played of Rebirth, though I don't regret not finishing it. Oh wait, that leaves Destiny 2, which has the worst, most ridiculous story I've ever seen, but was tremendously fun all the same.
ToA is a class above all the others, but I still like the ToR battle system better. It seemed really clever and revolutionary that I thought it would become the standard.
WHAT WAS SO BAD ABOUT ToD?? I remember in 4th grade being in love with Rutee. Eternia was fun though. I loved Chat.
Question: Do most of you play "Tales of" games with other people?
It's mandatory for me.
ティッシュに包んだ純情
悪 趣 味 な行為を
羊が百匹 羊が百一匹 眠れない
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| Pollyanna 2028th Post
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| "Re(7):Today is a horrible day" , posted Thu 12 Oct 14:17
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WHAT WAS SO BAD ABOUT ToD?? I remember in 4th grade being in love with Rutee. Eternia was fun though. I loved Chat.
Question: Do most of you play "Tales of" games with other people?
It's mandatory for me.
It was a transition game. If you look at the ToP battle system, it was like a modified real-time version of a normal RPG battle style where you still were in control of the team as a whole. It worked very well.
Then, when you look at the TOE system, it was a good step towards being more like an action game, with less control over the team as a whole, but much more gratifying gameplay in terms of combos and such.
Tales of Destiny failed on both accounts by not reproducing a "normal" RPG battle system and not providing anything satisfying from an action perspective. All of the Tales battle systems have something exploitable, but I feel like the ToD system had more holes than substance. They didn't get it right until ToE.
Similarly, the graphics were quite ugly. They would have been fine for a SNES game, but they had no artistry to them for something on PS. The towns were needlessly big, overused relatively few tiles and had tons and tons of nothing. You would go in the same house over and over (be unable to steal anything) and talk to people who never had anything good to say. I have never played a game with so many useless quotes from townpeople. They weren't funny, they weren't clever and they didn't contribute to the world. You would get nonsense like:
Dad: I love my wife's meatloaf!
Mom: I love fixing meatloaf for my family!
Kid: I hope we have meatloaf again.
The plot was also poorly constructed to the point that I had to ask myself several times "why am I here again?" There were a few good twists, but the game was too long for itself and was mostly either "busy work" or going through the same sorts of scenarios over and over.
Also, the soundtrack was average at best. I'm not picking on that, but it's nothing to appluad, either.
The only thing about the game that's been able to hold up are the characters. I don't like most of them, especially by today's standards, but they're consistantly popular and definitely the best part of the game.
You say you played it when you in 4th grade, and I think it's an acceptable game for a 4th grader. It's a great game for someone who hasn't been playing RPGs for years or who has never played and RPG with action elements. However, with the exception of Legendia, which I don't count, because it's just a mess (despite its amazing soundtrack), I can't see how ToD isn't the weakest game in the series. That doesn't make it trash, but it's still overrated, and it's nothing to applaud, either.
Aaaand...
I -have- played Tales games with friends, but I don't generally have time to sit down and just play RPGs with people. I was having fun doing the cameo fight in the arena on TOA on the hard setting with my friends, though.
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| war
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| "Re(2):God Hand is..." , posted Fri 13 Oct 08:32
i think i like the way this thread is going
can someone hook me up with a good AA penis site? I lost all mine and feel the need to inflate my post count.
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I didn't really think Avatar Tuner 2 was that bad...just "okay".
I liked the original Avatuna, the second one just seemed rushed. Lack of dungeons, zero interesting new designs, and some downright horrible pacing. Only part I found worthwhile was the reincarnation concepts. Oh, and the Serph identity and fusion sequence gave me goosebumps and made dealing with the constant party changes worthwhile. HOWEVER, I hold a special and private place in the hell of my heart for developers who miss some sort of trigger loophole that allows a player to skip a very important cutscene that explains a veeeeery important part of the story. In Avatuna2's case, Cielo's origin. Other residents of this hell: Xenosaga and KOTOR2.
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You're saying you hate Phantasia and Destiny, right?
Pretty much, yup yup. Bad combat system, predictable plot, etc. I had Eternia pegged as the same old crap and was planning to give up on it like I had the first two, but then Namco introduced the most magnificent asshole alive, Keele. He made me finish the game. I also had help from my roomate for the second disk.
Symponasiastha I skipped because I don't own a GC and the character designs offended me more so then FFX. Legendia I own, but I have no idea where it is!!!!! Didn’t do more than check to see if the disc worked. I gather it is not worth playing? I will disregard whatever paragraph you write because 40 dollars > internet opinion!!!!!!!!! Also you gave me a pretty good idea of what to expect.
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...Samurai Western. In retrospect I should have seen that one coming.
Best game ever made TBQH
even better then Godhand!
God bless Red
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| Arngrim
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| "Somewhat horrible, indeed" , posted Wed 18 Oct 05:04
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US releases of
Godhand
Raidou
Tales of the Abyss
Poor, poor wallet.......
Finally, I've tried Godhand after hearing some mixed opinions about it.
I think that I don't really get the point on this game. So far... it's a rather bad game.
...I presume that it's all a big joke and self-parody of the genre, I mean: I've played the whole first stage. For the first 2 or 3 areas, I was constantly thinking about shutting off my PS2 and never trying this game again.
The music on the first stage is painful to hear, it gives a Tarantinesque feel to it, at least, and I can't help but thinking that it was like a giant wink to those 2D beat'em up on NES like "The Adventures of Bayou Billy".
You can attribute to the characters and the story all the trashy adjectives you can imagine: they look cliché, flat, stereotyped and predictable. Just seeing devil enemies at the very first stage put me on the mood of "B-Movie". I'm somehow amused by that one of the main villains which is a mexican dressed like Gouki and swearing all the time in spanish while talking in english coño, cabrón!. Also, the Poison Chihuahua is... cute. I'm specially disgusted by the gay sub-bosses. I know it all goes with the "grotesque and disturbing" theme, but I found that choice... unfortunate.
Well, I really puzzled. Is there really any hope anywhere in this game? Or should I give it up because it just is not my cup of tea?
But I still want to quench your thirst.
Because I am the one that put you into the desert.
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"Re(1):Somewhat horrible, indeed" , posted Wed 18 Oct 05:24
