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"Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armageddon!" , posted Wed 2 Aug 23:58post reply

For those who are expecting this game, as I am, here are some news:

1) MKA was originally planned just for the PS2 and Xbox; however, Midway has confirmed that Nintendo Wii will also get this game in 2007. No info yet about how will it be played (with the Wii-mote?? With GC's controller?? with Wii's Classic Controller??), if it will have online play this time, or if it will get any extras, but it's one more reason for many people to buy a Wii.

2) PS2 is gonna get a Premium Pack for MKA, with four different boxes: one with Sindel and Shao Kahn, one with Sonya and Kano, one with Johnny Cage and Goro, and one with the same art as the general retail box, but metallic. So far, it wasn't announced if Xbox and Wii will get Premium Packs for MKA as well. The extra features:

*An arcade–perfect, playable of the original Ultimate Mortal Kombat® 3
*Over 60 minutes of bonus DVD video content featuring a "History of *Fatalities" movie, along with new videos for more than 50 of the Mortal Kombat characters
*An embossed metal package created exclusively for the limited edition *Premium Edition sets; there will be four unique box fronts in total
*Animation cell cover art autographed by franchise co–creator, Ed Boon

3) For those who haven't seen it yet, the new group render and the new select screen. It's already known that the four "secret boxes" belong to Meat (why?!), Blaze (the new final boss), Taven (hero in the new Konquest Mode) and Daegon (Taven's brother and rival).

To end up, two weird rumours:

- As you can see in the group render, Motaro's lower body can't be seen. Because of that, some people are saying that maybe he will have only two legs, because of the difficulties to make a full centaur fighter in 3D. I hope it's not true...
- Chameleon (male, from PSX's MK trilogy) can already be seen in the group render and select screen. However, Khameleon (female, from N64's MK Trilogy) isn't confirmed so far (which is weird, considering she was the one that had a story). But a british game magazine (I forgot its name) claims that she WILL be in it, and even showed what should be her render. So far, people don't know if it's true, since it looks almost identical as Li Mei's alternate in MK:Deadly Alliance (however, it's Midway we're talking about). Cinder, from the Midway forums, has not said so far whether it's a fake image or not.





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"Re(1):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Thu 3 Aug 03:33post reply

The problem with special editions of games is that you rarely find any that are all that special. Does anybody really want to watch a DVD feature on the history of fatalities?

I do, however, approve of keeping Liu Kang dead. Killing him off was a stroke of genius but having him continue to wander around even after he's dead gives him a quality you don't normally find in videogame heroes.





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"Re(2):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Thu 3 Aug 06:39post reply

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The problem with special editions of games is that you rarely find any that are all that special. Does anybody really want to watch a DVD feature on the history of fatalities?


No, I really don't care to see a history of fatalities, but I wouldn't mind having that metal, shiny case for the game though. I hope its like RE4 Special Edition and Halo 2 special edition was like.





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"Re(3):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Thu 3 Aug 07:55post reply

Only thing I would have liked to see was instead of Ultimate: Mortal Kombat 3, perhaps a version of Mortal Kombat Trilogy with little to no loading time and arcade-quality animation and character size?

I think it would suit the package alot better considering it is a "everyone here" game.





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"Re(1):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Fri 4 Aug 14:40post reply

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- As you can see in the group render, Motaro's lower body can't be seen. Because of that, some people are saying that maybe he will have only two legs, because of the difficulties to make a full centaur fighter in 3D. I hope it's not true...



Well, air combos might be a headache. Also, is anyone else here disappointed that Scorpion isn't using his Deadly Alliance/Deception outfit with the swords on his back and the visible spear and rope strapped to his arm?





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"Re(2):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Fri 4 Aug 17:16post reply

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- Also, is anyone else here disappointed that Scorpion isn't using his Deadly Alliance/Deception outfit with the swords on his back and the visible spear and rope strapped to his arm?

2P costume maybe?






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"Re(3):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Fri 4 Aug 21:17post reply

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- Also, is anyone else here disappointed that Scorpion isn't using his Deadly Alliance/Deception outfit with the swords on his back and the visible spear and rope strapped to his arm?
2P costume maybe?



Probably. At least, if I'm not mistaken, it was his alternate outfit in the E3 demo.





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"Re(2):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Fri 11 Aug 04:41post reply

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I do, however, approve of keeping Liu Kang dead. Killing him off was a stroke of genius but having him continue to wander around even after he's dead gives him a quality you don't normally find in videogame heroes.



At first I thought that was just being lazy on their part, like they didn't want to make him a new costume so just kept his dead-skin in the game and didn't even bother to swap it so it was his 2nd Costume.

However, seeing as how Scorpion, Noob, and Smoke are in their 2nd Player costumes I guess their might be a storyline reason Liu is still a zombie, that should be neat.

... and I know they're not making any new costumes for returing characters but I wonder if they're gonna do anything crazy like make Scorpion's P1 costume every other ninja's P2 so people who hate costume design but love multi-colored pajamas can like the game again. If Mileena's P1 will become Kitana's P2 since it was designed to be her costume anyway and she even wore it in some endings. Or make Sub-Zero's P2 his DA unmasked look rather then his very unpopular Deception 'bald monk thing' look.


....I bet Khamleon is for the Wii version and will replace Chamleon. Seems like what they'd do. Also, How's Chamleon gonna work? Like (old guy from the last Konquest) where he can use all the moves at once? or will he be swapping ablities? Does he still change color? Since he no longer is a palette swap and now just a move swap, can he use Cyrax and Sektor's moves too since they're male ninjas? Would Khamleon be able to use Tanya's ablities? Tanya's supposed to be a female ninja right?






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"Re(1):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Fri 11 Aug 10:37post reply

You know, in the past, I really stopped caring about Mortal Kombat games. But I have a wierd feeling about MK Armageddon. I actually want to play it!





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"Re(3):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Fri 11 Aug 21:25post reply

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However, seeing as how Scorpion, Noob, and Smoke are in their 2nd Player costumes I guess their might be a storyline reason Liu is still a zombie, that should be neat.


I remember someone from Midway stating that in the end of Deception, Liu Kang's body and soul would fight and then merge, but the winner might not be what people were expecting.
Yeah, I'm also curious about him.

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... and I know they're not making any new costumes for returing characters but I wonder if they're gonna do anything crazy like make Scorpion's P1 costume every other ninja's P2 so people who hate costume design but love multi-colored pajamas can like the game again. If Mileena's P1 will become Kitana's P2 since it was designed to be her costume anyway and she even wore it in some endings. Or make Sub-Zero's P2 his DA unmasked look rather then his very unpopular Deception 'bald monk thing' look.


That's a possibility, I guess. Then again, if these costumes are not available, maybe people can make characters with these looks (and maybe even the special attacks) in KAK mode.

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....I bet Khamleon is for the Wii version and will replace Chamleon. Seems like what they'd do. Also, How's Chamleon gonna work? Like (old guy from the last Konquest) where he can use all the moves at once? or will he be swapping ablities? Does he still change color? Since he no longer is a palette swap and now just a move swap, can he use Cyrax and Sektor's moves too since they're male ninjas? Would Khamleon be able to use Tanya's ablities? Tanya's supposed to be a female ninja right?



Hmm... I don't really like the idea of not having Khameleon in every system, while useless characters like Meat or Mokap would be in all three consoles. I mean, she has a story, and she has the potential to be a good character.
About Chameleon, someone at the MKO's Forum stated that someone from Midway said that Chameleon would have special attacks from every male ninja (a la Shujinko), and some of his own. But many people like to create fake news, so... But him using Cyrax's and Sektor's moves would be weird, since he's not a cyborg... or is he?
As for Tanya, she did dress herself as a female ninja in MK4, but since she never wore a mask, some players may not recognize her as a ninja...





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"Re(4):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Sat 12 Aug 05:02post reply

MKOnline has a few more screens up including a pic of a female Baraka mutant type thing [I know they have a specific name but I don't have time to look it up] in CAC mode. For those who have ever dreamed about having a character like that now's your chance.





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"Re(5):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Sat 12 Aug 07:27post reply

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MKOnline has a few more screens up including a pic of a female Baraka mutant type thing [I know they have a specific name but I don't have time to look it up] in CAC mode. For those who have ever dreamed about having a character like that now's your chance.



The name of Baraka´s race is tarkatan.
And woah, from this picture, someone finally managed to make a female fighter who is uglier than Sheeva... cool, anyway!





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"Re(5):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Sat 12 Aug 13:34post reply

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MKOnline has a few more screens up including a pic of a female Baraka mutant type thing [I know they have a specific name but I don't have time to look it up] in CAC mode. For those who have ever dreamed about having a character like that now's your chance.



Interesting stuff! I wonder if femal Tarkatans have to stay bald or if you can give them hair and make fun "Mileena" KoK's.... can you make other races in Kok like (Goro's) and (Reptile's) and (Blaze) as well or just Tarkatans? what about lady Cyborgs? male Vampires?

... on a side note, that picture of Frost fighting Shang Tsung confused me so much... I thought she was throwing the fire ball and he was blocking it, not realizing he was throwing it and Frost was just standing there, her default stance just lining up to look like she was throwing it.






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"Re(6):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Mon 14 Aug 05:44post reply

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Interesting stuff! I wonder if femal Tarkatans have to stay bald or if you can give them hair and make fun "Mileena" KoK's.... can you make other races in Kok like (Goro's) and (Reptile's) and (Blaze) as well or just Tarkatans? what about lady Cyborgs? male Vampires?


You're right, while characters with four arms might be tricky to pull off in a character creation mode I don't see why the other non-human characters couldn't make it in. Still, all I want is the ability to make one of those background guards with the triangle masks and I'll be happy.





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"Re(7):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Mon 14 Aug 16:33post reply

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You're right, while characters with four arms might be tricky to pull off in a character creation mode I don't see why the other non-human characters couldn't make it in.

If I recall correctly, Sheeva had 4 arms but it didn't affect her game play at all (she did her uppercuts with her two right arms, for example).





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"Re(8):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Tue 15 Aug 00:15post reply

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If I recall correctly, Sheeva had 4 arms but it didn't affect her game play at all (she did her uppercuts with her two right arms, for example).


My thought was that it might look silly to do that in 3D and if the producers wanted to put out a quality product they would avoid that; I somehow forgot that this was MK we were talking about.

Speaking of "innovative" MK characters, does anyone know if the Noob/Smoke fusion is still in or have they been split back into two seperate characters?





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"Re(9):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Armag" , posted Tue 15 Aug 02:34post reply

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Speaking of "innovative" MK characters, does anyone know if the Noob/Smoke fusion is still in or have they been split back into two seperate characters?


They are separate characters again... At least they have differents slot on the select screen.






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"Re(10):Lots of news and rumours about MK:Arma" , posted Tue 15 Aug 02:55post reply

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If I recall correctly, Sheeva had 4 arms but it didn't affect her game play at all (she did her uppercuts with her two right arms, for example).

My thought was that it might look silly to do that in 3D and if the producers wanted to put out a quality product they would avoid that; I somehow forgot that this was MK we were talking about.

Speaking of "innovative" MK characters, does anyone know if the Noob/Smoke fusion is still in or have they been split back into two seperate characters?

They are separate characters again... At least they have differents slot on the select screen.



About Noob and Smoke, it's true: they are no longer a tag team, but two separate characters. Even though Boon actually liked them as one team (in the E3 select screen you could even see them in the same slot), the vast majority of the players were against it, so they are separate now.

About the four-arms discussion, Goro seemed to use all of his four arms during battle in MK:Deception (GameCube version), but there were some glitches with it (like Darrius fatality where he rips every limb from the opponent; however, he doesn't rip Goro's lower arms).
But I don't think that four arms, centaur body or even giant wings will be available for KAK mode, since these body parts would demand specific animations and all. I guess there will only be humanoid features (although non-humans, tarkatans and reptiles are still humanoids in body shape... although a Shokan skin for the character would be nice and wouldn't be too hard to make...)





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"Motaro with TWO LEGS? Yup, it's true now..." , posted Wed 23 Aug 09:30post reply

While this rumour seemed absolutely fake, it turned out to be true (at least so far): Motaro now IS a fighter with only two legs, as a picture published today shows. It can be partially seen at Wikipedia, and fully seen at Mortal Kombat Online.

...Weird, isn't it? I wonder how will Midway justify his body change in terms of storyline, and in a way that pleases the majority of MK players who really disliked this change...





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"Re(1):Motaro with TWO LEGS? Yup, it's true no" , posted Wed 23 Aug 17:10post reply

LOL.

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"Re(2):Motaro with TWO LEGS? Yup, it's true no" , posted Wed 23 Aug 21:02post reply

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LOL.

LOL²



I didn't get it... are you laughing because Sub-Zero and Shang Tsung are using the exact same animation?
If that's the reason, Midway was never really known for not being a little lazy...





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"Re(3):Motaro with variable breast size?" , posted Wed 23 Aug 21:25post reply

Air chains have rarely looked good in any game but those pokey little kicks are particularly silly.

http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/perl/cds.cgi?external_action=displayImage&id=1602

A sliding scale for breast size! I wonder if the boob slider has to be unlocked in the krypt? While the attributes shot is good for a few cheap laughs I do appreciate that the character creation thing appears as if it's going to have a large amount of variables to twiddle with.





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"Re(4):Motaro with variable breast size?" , posted Thu 24 Aug 09:19post reply

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Air chains have rarely looked good in any game but those pokey little kicks are particularly silly.

http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/perl/cds.cgi?external_action=displayImage&id=1602

A sliding scale for breast size! I wonder if the boob slider has to be unlocked in the krypt? While the attributes shot is good for a few cheap laughs I do appreciate that the character creation thing appears as if it's going to have a large amount of variables to twiddle with.



True about the air chains. Really true, unfortunately...

Yeah, the KAK mode seems really interesting! Will it be as good as the one in Soul Calibur III?? Time will tell...

And about Motaro, well, my first thought was: "Wow, he´s really cool!" (yes, I liked him now). But my second thought was: "Well, he´s cool, but how can Midway just change his race? It´s not right; it´s like putting Baraka without his arm blades, or Goro with just two arms, Mileena without her sais, or Kitana being a man...". But Shang Tsung also got changed by Midway, since he can no longer morph into other characters (although I guess Midway could say he still can, but programming issues prevented them to show him morphing).

Anyway, I hope a good explanation is given for Motaro´s new body (a REALLY good explanation, not that stupid "Shao Kahn didn´t die ´cos he made a magical clone of himself that was killed by the Deadly Alliance" from GC´s MK:Deception... I read an interesting possibility: if centaurs have some magic power, maybe he transformed himself into that to catch people off-guard with new techniques (but then, Midway´d better show him with 4 legs transforming into this 2 legged body before the first round...).

Now, I hope to see Khameleon. Even if she really is made from Li Mei´s alternate outfit from MK:DA, it´s still good; it´s still better than this change in Motaro (Chameleon also looks like a copy from MK:D Ermac, so there´s no problem after all...).





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"Re(1):Motaro with TWO LEGS? Yup, it's true no" , posted Thu 24 Aug 09:38post reply

I actually like Motaro's new design better. They should make the explaination something truely insane like "when Edenia split from Outworld all of the Centaur's front legs where taken along with it. So Motaur and his kind are now satire warriors and there's a pile of horse front ends laying in a ditch somewhere in Kitana's home realm they need to find so they can reattach them to themselves or be forced to learn to skip and play the pan flute" that'd be awesome!

The boob scale is HILLARIOUS... so now it's pretty much confirmed I can live out my life long dream of playing as Baraka in drag with a HUGE rack!






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"Re(2):Motaro with TWO LEGS? Yup, it's true no" , posted Fri 25 Aug 13:13post reply

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Hl4lEVSGw

quick video of Scorpion taking on Blaze from that I think is from that Germany event.





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"No Khameleon... at least for PS2 and Xbox" , posted Fri 25 Aug 22:10:post reply

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....I bet Khamleon is for the Wii version and will replace Chamleon. Seems like what they'd do. Also, How's Chamleon gonna work? Like (old guy from the last Konquest) where he can use all the moves at once? or will he be swapping ablities? Does he still change color? Since he no longer is a palette swap and now just a move swap, can he use Cyrax and Sektor's moves too since they're male ninjas? Would Khamleon be able to use Tanya's ablities? Tanya's supposed to be a female ninja right?



You know, this may really happen. This week, it was confirmed that Khameleon will NOT be in MK:Armageddon. Shaun Himmerick, from the MK Team, stated she's not in the game (strangely going against the previous statement that "every character from every MK fighting game will be in Armageddon"...). Later, Cinder from the Midway Official Forum, stated that Khameleon will not be in MK:Armageddon for PS2 and Xbox.

However, he didn't say that she won't be in Wii. It's sad that she's absent from this game so far (while pointless characters like Mokap, Chameleon and Meat - who wasn't even a real character, he was a costume in MK4, will be in); but I hope at least the Wii's version gets her... Then again, we'd better not keep our expectations high for that to happen...

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"Re(3):Motaro with TWO LEGS? Yup, it's true no" , posted Sat 26 Aug 01:55post reply

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Hl4lEVSGw

quick video of Scorpion taking on Blaze from that I think is from that Germany event.


Whoa, that's interesting! That may be the first over-sized MK boss I've seen that can be launched. I was hoping to see some air combos but either the timing for them is really tight, the boss can't be juggled or the player just stunk. At least it looks like Scorpion has some new moves such as what appears to be a new teleport and what looked for all the world like an Alpha counter. The video even spoiled Scorpion's ending and reveals what he's going to be doing in the MK game after this one. Thanks for mentioning that one, it was a nice find.





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"Re(4):Motaro with TWO LEGS? Yup, it's true no" , posted Sat 26 Aug 03:05post reply

quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Hl4lEVSGw

quick video of Scorpion taking on Blaze from that I think is from that Germany event.

Whoa, that's interesting! That may be the first over-sized MK boss I've seen that can be launched. I was hoping to see some air combos but either the timing for them is really tight, the boss can't be juggled or the player just stunk. At least it looks like Scorpion has some new moves such as what appears to be a new teleport and what looked for all the world like an Alpha counter. The video even spoiled Scorpion's ending and reveals what he's going to be doing in the MK game after this one. Thanks for mentioning that one, it was a nice find.



How could you tell what the ending was all about?? It was in German! (you can understand German?)





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"NO KHAMELEON for PS2 OR XBOX... but Wii?" , posted Sat 26 Aug 03:24:post reply

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How could you tell what the ending was all about?? It was in German! (you can understand German?)



The naration was in English I believe, just hard to hear (I think I heard something about

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Quan Chi killing Scorpion's son and Scorpion was going to hunt Quan Chi down for revenge

End of Spoiler


but maybe my brain picked up words it thought it knew)

It's kinda stupid they just show their katas with narations for the endings... I HATE those kind of endings. But better then "THANK YOU FOR PLAYING" like Capcom has been giving us I guess.

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http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/News/read.cds?article=812

Khameleon is NOT in MKA, but not it says "for the PS2 and Xbox" so I she's most likely Wii exclusive which (unless Chameleon is in the game too) is just retarded as they both probably have storylines now.






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"NO KHAMELEON for PS2 OR XBOX... OR Wii" , posted Sun 27 Aug 04:42:post reply

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Khameleon is NOT in MKA, but not it says "for the PS2 and Xbox" so I she's most likely Wii exclusive which (unless Chameleon is in the game too) is just retarded as they both probably have storylines now.



A funny thing is that it wasn´t even said that she would be in the Wii version, and there´s already a lot of people freaking out because of that (most of them are PS2 and Xbox owners), saying that Midway is giving all the bonus to Nintendo, that´s not fair that Wii gets one extra character whose story may interfere with the events in Armageddon... I guess Boon should put Khameleon in the Wii version and take out Chameleon (like Soul Calibur II and the exclusive characters for each console). I mean, I plan on buying a Wii, and not having Chameleon would not be the end of the world...
But she should be in at least one version, so we can know what has happened to her. After that, Midway may just kill her (and Chameleon, for that matter) that I don´t care...

Oh, also, more news:

- Motaro´s ending (wow, he´s really cool! who needs 4 legs now??)

- Shang Tsung´s ending

- Sub-Zero´s ending

- Chameleon´s ending

- Sonya and Johnny Cage seem to have only two special attacks each (Poison Kiss and Square Wave Punch for her; Fireball and Shadow Kick for him), which is really irritating their fans...

- also, Moloch seems to be smaller than he was in MK:DA, and this is also irritating MK players...

Other than that, it still seems to be a great game.

Update: Cinder, from the Midway Forums, has edited his speech:

Khameleon is not in MKA.

Now, it seems that Khameleon won´t be in any of the versions of MK:Armageddon. And it really sucks.






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"Re(1):NO KHAMELEON for PS2 OR XBOX... OR Wii" , posted Wed 30 Aug 01:31post reply

More news:

- as I said before, Cinder has edited his statement about Khameleon, removing the "for PS2 and Xbox" part. So, it looks like she won't be in Armageddon at all... sad, even because Mokap and Meat are in...

- Kitana's ending

- Mileena's ending

- Raiden's ending

- Meat's ending (yes, he does have an ending...)

- Nitara's ending

- Some rumours have been denied recently, fortunately: Moloch is NOT smaller than in MK:DA (although his iron ball isn't in his hand - maybe it will be his Weapon Style), and Sonya has around 4 special attacks instead of 2 (no Leg Grab, though)





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"Re(2):NO KHAMELEON for PS2 OR XBOX... OR Wii" , posted Sat 16 Sep 09:27post reply

I got a chance to play Armageddon at some Xbox thing going to different colleges(as well as check out the new Splinter Cell and Rainbow 6) and I liked it. I beat the game with Motaro and liked the main game, but Blaze just really sucked.

I really liked how the camera approached some of the stages. Like in the subway stage you see things as a person riding a subway car and the doors open up showing the kombatants squareing off. Motor Kombat was also pretty cool. Not too fancy, but entertainging enough.





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"Re(3):NO KHAMELEON for PS2 OR XBOX... OR Wii" , posted Sun 17 Sep 10:40post reply

if you go to or live near a university you might want to check out if its on this list.

Link Here

Get a chance to play the game.





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"MK stuff" , posted Tue 19 Sep 01:18post reply

How were the air combos? Did they work about as well as the rest of the game engine? Were the air combos very specific in what you could land or could you mix things up a bit? Did you get a chance to try out the Konquest mode?