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| simonbelmont
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|  "Re(1):Hurricane Katrina" , posted Sun 4 Sep 15:49
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For any Cafe members coming from the areas that were hit, as well as all the people that are suffering or have lost loved ones in these tragic circumstances, my heart and prayers go out to you all.
Was anyone here in the hurricane's path?
Hard for me to pity dumbasses who don't heed a fair warning. I've lived in hurricane regions before and I kept a hurricane locker and evacuated when I was warned. I thought NO was all about boobs, beads, and drinking. But no. Those dumbasses would rather stay home, ignore warnings of certain death, loot, rape, burn, pillage, and play road warrior. Fuck them. I pity people in 3rd world countries like Honduras who literally have nowhere to go when a hurricane strikes. Score one for Darwin.
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| ONSLAUGHT 3465th Post
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| "Re(2):Hurricane Katrina" , posted Sun 4 Sep 16:03
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Hard for me to pity dumbasses who don't heed a fair warning. I've lived in hurricane regions before and I kept a hurricane locker and evacuated when I was warned. I thought NO was all about boobs, beads, and drinking. But no. Those dumbasses would rather stay home, ignore warnings of certain death, loot, rape, burn, pillage, and play road warrior. Fuck them. I pity people in 3rd world countries like Honduras who literally have nowhere to go when a hurricane strikes. Score one for Darwin.
I like this guy.
But I'm really sorry for the animals, specially domestic ones like cats and dogs.
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| Undead Fred 2479th Post
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| "Re(5):Hurricane Katrina" , posted Sun 4 Sep 16:58
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Some people are poor and have a difficult time moving. In the event that the hurricane wasn't that strong, some people would not be able to make enough money to feed their kids for a day if they evacuate.
That's what I understood as well... ?
It's cool to say "evacuate", but if those people had nowhere to go, what were they supposed to do ? Go to the superdome ?
(once again, I don't know much about what happenned, so all explanations are welcome)
Yeah, that's pretty much the way I saw it. Either they just COULDN'T leave, or if they did, they probably had enough hurricanes come in that didn't end up being that bad, so they got hit by the "boy that cried wolf" effect. The rest were just the assholes that were waiting to turn New Orleans into Mad Max and start looting.
I'm still waiting for Dennis Hopper to take over the city and put up fences. It's a total mess down there.
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| Nickey
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| "Re(2):Hurricane Katrina" , posted Sun 4 Sep 22:11
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Hard for me to pity dumbasses who don't heed a fair warning. I've lived in hurricane regions before and I kept a hurricane locker and evacuated when I was warned. I thought NO was all about boobs, beads, and drinking. But no. Those dumbasses would rather stay home, ignore warnings of certain death, loot, rape, burn, pillage, and play road warrior. Fuck them. I pity people in 3rd world countries like Honduras who literally have nowhere to go when a hurricane strikes. Score one for Darwin.
Please stop. That statement is offensive . Alot of people did evacuate, but New Orleans is not a rich area. Alot of people COULDN'T evacuate. They don't have cars, or the money to catch a plane, or the means to just pack up and go somewhere else to live. They have jobs and families and cannot afford to leave. You don't understand how poor some people are in that region. People lived in SHACKS, litterally SHACKS, I've seen them, with 4-5 kids and a few other relatives, with what money could they evacuate with?
Tell me why do we work over-time Looking for that "SOMEONE"?
Why you lookin around in and out of town being lost and found
And when we find that special "SOMEONE"
Then the love turns part-time
Then you lose yourself
...Love is cozmo-naughty
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| Krzyzewski Man 1102th Post
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| "Re(1):Hurricane Katrina" , posted Mon 5 Sep 12:08
Strange to see my hometown like this. Pretty much everything about our country has been exposed here, I think: blacks still get the shaft, the bureaucracy is junked (FEMA and the DHS both completely screwed up - actually, just about everybody decided to call a news conference rather than do anything) and the Bush administration, frankly, does not care. Hell, not just black people, they don't have a care in the world. They caught that skank Condoleeza Rice shoe shopping in the middle of all this. Presumably 'cause of the vicious shoe shortage that's hit our country.
It's weird though - the most surprising thing is how the media reacted. They usually suck up to the administration, but they were MAD this week. Even Shepard Smith of Fox News was going away from the party line. Of course, it took bodies floating in the streets to do it.
This is pretty much it for the status quo, I think. We may see some real change in this country. But that's no bright spot. It took something like this to come to that. After 9/11.
To be honest, I don't think anything good will come of this.
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| Baines
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| "Re(2):Hurricane Katrina" , posted Mon 5 Sep 16:21
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To be honest, I don't think anything good will come of this.
Nothing will come of it politically, because Bush won't allow anything to be done to anyone. And nothing will happen to Bush either. Everyone responsible is dodging accountability now because once everything is dealt with they know they will be safe. It is only now, while everyone is still upset and it is still blanketing TV, that they face any risk.
Congressmen and women are keeping their heads down, or talking about how bad the response is. They'll all be safe for re-election. Its Bush's second term, so he couldn't run again anyway. Cheney has had his head down, not that Cheney should be electable in anything short of a rigged election, unless the Democrats run the most unelectable person they can fine, and the next Presidental election is years away.
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| Krzyzewski Man 1106th Post
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| "Re(9):Hurricane Katrina" , posted Tue 6 Sep 12:15:
It's ALREADY got a ytmnd site. What a beautiful mind.
Edit: Oh, good.
Edit 2: On the subject of the governor's responsibility, I defer to Andrew Sullivan: quote:
The 2004 National Response Plan explicitly states that, at times of
any natural or manmade incident, including terrorism, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the population, infrastructure, environment, economy, national morale, and/or government functions,
the federal government pre-empts local and state government in its responsibility to act quickly. After 9/11, the administration wisely dispensed with the formalities of deferring to local authorities (which, of course, in this case had already issued a state of emergency as early as August 26). The attempt by the spinners to blame this on the obviously overwhelmed and incompetent local authorities, doesn't fit with the Bush administration's own rules. Proof positive can be read here. Keep digging, Karl.
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| Baines
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| "Re(5):Hurricane Katrina" , posted Tue 6 Sep 13:23:
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From what I've heard, it's more or less the governor's fault that the response for aid was so slow.
FEMA (and Homeland Security) been one of the biggest problems from several reports. They wanted the Red Cross and other relief groups to stay out. They are the ones that cut emergency communication lines. The ones not supplying the designated safety areas or hospitals, without even a decent dodge as to why not.
In my home state, there is a group of around 100 doctors that have waited for days to be sent to New Orleans, but have been denied access. Note that this isn't just a charity group either, this is a group funded by Homeland Security for the purpose of disaster relief.
A lot of groups have made mistakes, state and federal. Even FEMA employees admit at times how pathetic it [FEMA] can be. Military cutbacks and involvement in Iraq meant the Army Corp of Engineers had to cut back work and maintenance on the levies. Wetlands restoration ignored for years that would have much reduced the dangers of New Orleans flooding. A federal government that only got its disaster news from the news media rather than its own resources, and then still failed to actually act on several levels. Etc.
What it ultimately shows is the whole organization is a joke. Mind, some people have known that for years, and I don't just mean partisan bickering "knowing."
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| Iggy 7170th Post
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| "Re(9):Hurricane Katrina" , posted Tue 6 Sep 19:03
I kinda like the way the hurricane is treated in french media, which is, well the exact same way any disaster is shown when it hits any part of the world.
I'm not saying they should talk about it more in depth (they are only talking about the victims, the destruction, and not at all about the political side of the event, the FEMA and the rest), I just like the idea that every country, US or small little 3rd world country, is the same when viewed from far enough.
Anyways, I like this thread and SA for the insight it gives. Thanks to anyone.
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Here's a twofold link - it notes a lot of the failures and background of these two men. Also, it shows what happens when a Frenchperson tries to argue with a bunch of barking rabid elephants. Poor Clara. Any comments, fellow people of France?
This is incredibly funny.
Oh, let me quote it for people who don't want to read it all :
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1. African immigrants are routinely burnt to death in hopeless conditions. But that’s nothing when one looks at France’s reputation in Africa after the genocide in Rwanda. It was France that backed the hutu slaughter. Can I quote from the respected Human Rights Watch NGO: ” Some governments, particularly France and several African governments, continued to support the Rwandan government throughout the genocide.” I hope you American’s read this and stop feeling so bad about yourselves. About 1,000,000 people were slaughtered and France knew what was going on and stood by and watched. .Just as the Vichy French did during world war II.
2. Reports of attacks on synangogues are routinely suppressed so as not to rile France’s massive muslim population.
3. Large areas of Paris have been surrended to Sharia law.
4. Jean Marie le Pen is still very, very popular.
5. French farmers receive massive subsidies through CAP - denying poor farmers throughout the world a chance to compete with them in European markets.
6. Between 1981 and 1985 40% of French arms exports were to Iraq. Not only that the quality of arms sold was very high: mirage fighter jets and exocets to name but a few. It was these sales that provoked the taking of French hostages by Iranian backed groups in the Lebanon.
7. The French political elite is corrupt. Alain Juppe, Chirac’s right hand man and French prime minister was found guilty of a party funding scam. He got an 18 month suspended sentence and was barred from taking political office for 10 years.
That makes my day.
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そう かんけいないね
=> 殺してでもうばいとる
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| Krzyzewski Man 1106th Post
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| "Re(10):Hurricane Katrina" , posted Wed 7 Sep 04:20
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I kinda like the way the hurricane is treated in french media, which is, well the exact same way any disaster is shown when it hits any part of the world.
I'm not saying they should talk about it more in depth (they are only talking about the victims, the destruction, and not at all about the political side of the event, the FEMA and the rest), I just like the idea that every country, US or small little 3rd world country, is the same when viewed from far enough.
Awwww. Let's all hug a foreigner today!
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Anyways, I like this thread and SA for the insight it gives. Thanks to anyone.
Mostly me, of course.
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This is incredibly funny.
Yep. Gotta love our right wing nuts. And that's not even Free Republic!
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Oh, let me quote it for people who don't want to read it all :
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That makes my day.
Well, that's good.
Oh, and Michael Brown is seriously taking heat. Check this blog by the incredibly gay Andrew Sullivan that charts the dozens of blogs asking for his firing. For an even better time, check out his Wikipedia entry. What was it, the Arabian International Horse Association?
Lastly, I think that Zangief thing might have come from HerV. I'll check.
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| Krzyzewski Man 1114th Post
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| "Re(6):Re(10):Hurricane Katrina" , posted Mon 12 Sep 02:44
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Frankly, I was terrorised.
! I guess we are more jaded in our country. And here I thought ya'll were a buncha mini-Sartres.
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Here, there would have been a trial for saying such things on TV, and the persons who gave him the opportunity to do so would have been embarrassed as well.
Ummm... not defending, but I'm guessing France doesn't have as established free speech laws?
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Talking loud so nobody can cut you is a concept I haven't seen here yet, either. Thank god.
Heh.
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oh STFU kanye west. like he really feels the plight of his people down in new orleans. george bush doesn't give a shit about black people... wow what a revelation! i bet it just helped you sell more records.
dumbasses.
Do you really think Kanye West needs the extra sales, fuckwit? This can only hurt his income, anyway, because white people run the record companies, and buy most of the rap CDs anyway! Do you really think it was just black people buying Get Rich or Die Tryin'? You need to stimulate your mind, bud. Of course, to do that, you'll need to stick your fist up your asshole.
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| Zepy 1125th Post
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| "Re(1):The truth" , posted Tue 20 Sep 06:53
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It was a yakuza conspiration all along !
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