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"Two Days of Tokyo" , posted Tue 16 Aug 06:22post reply

Hey everyone. A week from tomorrow I will be on my way to live in Hong Kong for the next four months. On my way there, I will be spending three nights in Tokyo. I was hoping some people here might be able to help me plan my two fulls days in the city.

There are a couple of attractions that I know I want to see (Tokyo Tower, Korakuen Amusement Park), but other than that I still need to decide what all I should see and do. Where are the best places to shop? Best arcades? Views? Shrines? Basically what do I absolutely have to do while I'm there? I know I don't have much time, so I want to be sure to do the best of the best.

Also, any recommendations on restaurants? I can't go overboard on my budget, but I want some good food and variety (i.e. not JUST sushi).

And, as I mentioned earlier, I'm going to be living in Hong Kong for a while, so any suggestions for activities there are welcome too. It's just not quite as urgent since I should have plenty of time while I'm there. Oh, and is anyone here from Hong Kong? Let me know!






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"Re(1):Two Days of Tokyo" , posted Tue 16 Aug 06:46post reply

The Tokyo Tower is really nothing much, you should skip it (unless you only go there for the sake of "I've been there"! I know I wandered in Shinjuku and took a picture of the "MyCity" sign just for the sake of it, you know...)





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"Re(2):Two Days of Tokyo" , posted Tue 16 Aug 06:59post reply

I would recommend the Meiji Shrine/Yoyogi Park, especially on Sunday. I had the fortune of seeing a wedding there along with dancing greasers, Gothic Lolita types and a lot of cute street musicians.

Depending on what KIND of shopping you want depends on where you should go. If you want otaku-type stuff, just go to Akihabara. You could spend a week there alone buying junk. I don't even need to recommend a PLACE there, you'll find thigns. You can't NOT find things.

There are also more giant arcades than you can shake a stick at. I don't think you'll have a problem finding arcades ANYWHERE, though (well, in Asakusa, I guess). Personally, although I went to Akihabara to shop, it sort of made me miserable. Lots of ugly nerds, lots and LOTS of pornography, nothing interesting to look at, just tons of manga/anime/electronics etc.

I like fashion and seeing cool people, but I don't expect you to share that sentiment, so my advice on "good places to shop" might not apply.

Also, with so much stuff to do, I don't know that Tokyo Tower is that awesome, either.





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"Re(3):Two Days of Tokyo" , posted Tue 16 Aug 08:50:post reply

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Depending on what KIND of shopping you want depends on where you should go. If you want otaku-type stuff, just go to Akihabara. You could spend a week there alone buying junk. I don't even need to recommend a PLACE there, you'll find thigns. You can't NOT find things.




Yeah, Akihabara, Akihabara, Akihabara. Take the train and don't miss the Gundam store in the train station. If you want to take a one day Tokyo Tour those are nice, they'll take you to Tokyo Tower, you'll participate in the Tea Ceremony, you'll eat at a nice restaurant and stuff, it's kind of cheap for a tour and you'll have the rest of the night for everything else. Roppongi has some nice dance clubs, Shinjuku is great for any type of shopping you can think of under the sun, but some of the malls are freaking huge and it will exhaust you. On second thought, just stay in Akihabara since you're only doing 2 days.





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"Re(4):Two Days of Tokyo" , posted Tue 16 Aug 11:46:post reply

id skip both tokyo tower and korakuen amusement park.

tokyo tower is small and nothing special. it's in the middle of the city, but at the same time, surrounded by nothing within walking distance, so after seeing it you have to hop on a train to get back to where everything else is.

korakuen is okay i guess, but honestly, if youve ever been to any amusement parks in the states, then korakuen is tiny. it's really not much and is a bit of a ways out. it has one kind of cool, very short roller coaster that goes in and out of a building, but personally i dont think that one ride is worth the trek out to korakuen (unless of course youre going to catch a baseball game also).

as for places to go, ive listed some of the larger train stations and what you might want to do at those locations:
shibuya day and night (for young fashion and clubbing)
shinjuku day and night (for drinking and partying)
roppongi night as a red light-ish district that caters to foreigners (lots of hostess clubs and bars)
akihabara day
harajuku day (alternative youth culture)
ueno day (for the park and ameyoko - kind of like a street market)
asakura day (for some traditional culture)
omotesando / daikanyama day (high fashion)





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"Re(5):Two Days of Tokyo" , posted Wed 17 Aug 04:36post reply

Cool, thanks for the advice so far everyone. Keep it coming!

A couple of questions come to mind. What kinds of places are open for food for breakfast and late-night eating? Also, especially if I decide to skip Tokyo Tower, where are some good places to get views and pictures of the city? The Mori Tower observation deck looks cool, as does Sunshine 60, but the Tokyo Metropolitan Government Office is apparently free.





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"Kanda + Alpha" , posted Thu 18 Aug 23:47post reply

Sounds fun, Grahf, and makatiel's hit it on the head with his outline. Harajuku and Shibuya are really where you should be for fun, and if you want to buy electronic stuff Akihabara is obviously the place, just don't waste time in the big new goods stores and spend all your time in used stores that are just holes in the wall, you'll find much better stuff.

If you like books, also seriously consider going through the Kanda bookstore area, not terribly far from Asakusa, there's blocks of great bookstores, big and small...I forget if you speak Japanese or not, but even if you don't, I think there's some English language bookshops, too, but I can't remember. It's a LOT of fun, either way.





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"Re(1):Kanda + Alpha" , posted Fri 19 Aug 03:42post reply

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Sounds fun, Grahf, and makatiel's hit it on the head with his outline. Harajuku and Shibuya are really where you should be for fun, and if you want to buy electronic stuff Akihabara is obviously the place, just don't waste time in the big new goods stores and spend all your time in used stores that are just holes in the wall, you'll find much better stuff.

If you like books, also seriously consider going through the Kanda bookstore area, not terribly far from Asakusa, there's blocks of great bookstores, big and small...I forget if you speak Japanese or not, but even if you don't, I think there's some English language bookshops, too, but I can't remember. It's a LOT of fun, either way.




head out of kowloon man, get into the outer islands and new territories on the weekends

unless of course you like rubbing elbows, then stay in kowloon :)





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"Re(2):Kanda + Alpha" , posted Sun 21 Aug 07:15post reply

Hey, thanks again everyone. I think I have my plans for my trip now. On the first day I'll probably visit some places around Ueno, Asakusa, Kanda, and Akihabara. On the second I'll go by the Imperial Palace area, Roppongi, Shibuya, and Shinjuku.
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head out of kowloon man, get into the outer islands and new territories on the weekends

Yeah, I have my classes set up so I have Monday's off, so hopefully I'll have lots of time for excursions during my three-day weekends.





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"TOKYOOOO" , posted Sat 27 Aug 19:48post reply

I just finished my trip to Tokyo; I arrived in Hong Kong a few hours ago. It rained all day my first day, but the second was nice but hot. Anyhow, on to reporting the gaming related stuff from my trip.

NGBC was in every arcade I went in, and it was getting a good amount of use. Most of the players weren't all that good, but there was one guy who was doing pretty well with Shiki. I didn't see anyone using Kyo or Iori, but they weren't using any of the new characters either. Maybe the fact that they weren't all that good has something to with them not picking Kyo and Iori though. Tekken 5 was getting played a good bit too, and I saw one Melty Blood machine. Pretty much everyone in the arcades smoked, and every machine had an ash-tray stitting by the controls, which I thought was pretty funny.

Akibahara was pretty cool. I saw pretty much every game I've heard about here that we don't have in America and every game that still isn't out here. Dance Dance Mario was all over the place. Jump Superstars was advertised a lot, but most places I checked they were sold out. Overall it was a very cool departure from what I'm used to in America which is only the most recent and mainstream games sold en masse. Instead there were all kinds of obscure titles and plenty of games for old systems as well.

I only saw two people actually playing a DS while I was in the city, and no one using a PSP. The two DS's were both pink and being played by very little girls. They looked like they were having fun though. On the trains almost everyone was busy text messaging on their phones or reading.





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"Re(1):TOKYOOOO" , posted Sat 27 Aug 23:57post reply

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I Pretty much everyone in the arcades smoked, and every machine had an ash-tray stitting by the controls, which I thought was pretty funny.





Yeah I remember the ash-trays too, I also found that funny when I went over there.





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"Re(2):TOKYOOOO" , posted Sun 28 Aug 02:22:post reply

I think I will use this thread for my own self absorbed Tim Rogers style Japan blog.

Today I went to HEY in Akibahara. I intruded on some guy's Rumblefish2 game. Halfway through the second round he started pounding on the machine. He got up, and moved over to the adjacent TRF2 machine and started a new game. At this point I was wondering just who goes to HEY--one of the busiest and most prominent arcades in Japan--to practice against the computer. I mean, there must be a thousand TRF2 machines in Japan that haven't been touched for months.

After I was finished I got up, and scoped this guy out. For some reason he reminded me of D-FENS. This guy's face was completely contorted in fury, and he was really working the controls. He also happened to be talking to himself in what I imagine must the Japanese equivilant of saying "YOU LIKE THAT HUH!? YEAH! YOU TAKE THAT! OH GOD EARGH!"

This was the only person in the entire arcade behaving like this. Why did he have to be playing TRF2? This isn't even this first time a TRF2 opponent has completely flipped out on me. I never see 3S, or GGXX players behaving like this :( Overall it was a pretty scary and dissapointing day





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"Re(3):TOKYOOOO" , posted Sun 28 Aug 02:39post reply

This lacks namedropping, and you forgot the time when you talked to the jerk about how the ending of Katamari Damacy makes you all empty inside and wether he felt the same.





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"Re(3):TOKYOOOO" , posted Sun 28 Aug 02:57post reply

Oh, and something else to add to my blog:

Today I learned the hard way that in IBARA, the large "approaching boss warning" banner sometimes will come up while there are still some bullets on the screen. This banner is displayed over everything else, including both your ship and enemy bullets. I always thought putting anything over enemy bullets was sort of a no-no in shooting games.

Besides that, I think this game has the most "WTF!?" deaths out of any Cave game I have ever played. Getting killed by the "BIG ENEMY APPROACHING FAST" graphic is just the icing on the cake.





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"Re(3):TOKYOOOO" , posted Sun 28 Aug 03:37post reply

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I think I will use this thread for my own self absorbed Tim Rogers style Japan blog.

Today I went to HEY in Akibahara. I intruded on some guy's Rumblefish2 game. Halfway through the second round he started pounding on the machine. He got up, and moved over to the adjacent TRF2 machine and started a new game. At this point I was wondering just who goes to HEY--one of the busiest and most prominent arcades in Japan--to practice against the computer. I mean, there must be a thousand TRF2 machines in Japan that haven't been touched for months.

After I was finished I got up, and scoped this guy out. For some reason he reminded me of D-FENS. This guy's face was completely contorted in fury, and he was really working the controls. He also happened to be talking to himself in what I imagine must the Japanese equivilant of saying "YOU LIKE THAT HUH!? YEAH! YOU TAKE THAT! OH GOD EARGH!"

This was the only person in the entire arcade behaving like this. Why did he have to be playing TRF2? This isn't even this first time a TRF2 opponent has completely flipped out on me. I never see 3S, or GGXX players behaving like this :( Overall it was a pretty scary and dissapointing day



Maybe he was frustrated because you were using Mito? I mean, in match videos it's just the same attacks over and over that nobody seems to be able to defend properly.





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"Re(4):TOKYOOOO" , posted Mon 29 Aug 01:06post reply

New blog entry:

I am starting to become discouraged with my progress in TRF2. I think I may not be cut out for fighting games. I have spent a lot of time working at this game, and looking for competition wherever I kind find it to improve. Sometimes though, I am still getting beat by, or having extreme trouble with GGXX or 3S players who are only passingly familiar with TRF2. I wonder if these players have skills that carry over from their main game, or maybe if I just have some fighting game deficiency. I don't know. I have only been playing fighting games seriously since March, so maybe it is something I will improve at.

I am still getting tripped up by things like predictable crossups, or overhead games. I also have trouble reliably inputting anything harder than qcfx2. Once again today's mood is





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"T0KY0~had0uken" , posted Mon 29 Aug 14:31post reply

The thing about the common Japanese fighting game players, is that their sense of spacing, timing, and reading the opponent are very good. They don't even really need to know the combos, if they can just read you and do a decent combo every time you wiff or they block a big move.

Learn to play footsie... really good timing is also important, know exactly the range of the opponant and your own moves and keep in a distance where you can hit them and they can't hit you. I've played some really hardcore turtlers (machi), where they will really capitilize on a player that is too predictable. Of course this doesn't apply in GGXX, because turtling is very bad in that game.

Also, TRF2 isn't really that popular man. It's not a bad game by any means, but people just aren't digging it. Unfortunately Nejibako isn't huge either, although I see people play it. It seems like we need another SF3 Third, because people play that game like there's no tomorrow. And GGXX. And T5. VF is almost completely dead now... =( But VF5 is coming!1!!





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"Re(3):TOKYOOOO" , posted Mon 29 Aug 15:26post reply

quote:
I think I will use this thread for my own self absorbed Tim Rogers style Japan blog.

Today I went to HEY in Akibahara. I intruded on some guy's Rumblefish2 game. Halfway through the second round he started pounding on the machine. He got up, and moved over to the adjacent TRF2 machine and started a new game. At this point I was wondering just who goes to HEY--one of the busiest and most prominent arcades in Japan--to practice against the computer. I mean, there must be a thousand TRF2 machines in Japan that haven't been touched for months.

After I was finished I got up, and scoped this guy out. For some reason he reminded me of D-FENS. This guy's face was completely contorted in fury, and he was really working the controls. He also happened to be talking to himself in what I imagine must the Japanese equivilant of saying "YOU LIKE THAT HUH!? YEAH! YOU TAKE THAT! OH GOD EARGH!"

This was the only person in the entire arcade behaving like this. Why did he have to be playing TRF2? This isn't even this first time a TRF2 opponent has completely flipped out on me. I never see 3S, or GGXX players behaving like this :( Overall it was a pretty scary and dissapointing day



Maybe its me. This kinda of thing happens here now and there. Banging machines even swearing.

Some people can't take losing too well.






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"Re(4):TOKYOOOO" , posted Mon 29 Aug 21:25:post reply

Today's entry:

Today in IBARA I got the death moan to play, but I didn't lose a life or explode. I think it had something to do with the "minibomb" mechanic of changing weapons, powering up, or when you collect enough bomb fragments to get a bigbomb. I believe I did it by simultaneously touching a bullet and powering up at once. There might be some very short Border of Life type window in Ibara.

Also, the metabomb mechanic in this game is really weird. You can really tear apart bosses by changing weapons on top of or near them.





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"Tokyo chair" , posted Tue 30 Aug 01:25post reply

Right click and save me if you are no one can see you.

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"Re(1):Tokyo chair" , posted Tue 30 Aug 02:21post reply

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Right click and save me if you are no one can see you.

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First a slight freakout during a lecture this afternoon and now this. What a week this one's going to be.

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"Re(5):TOKYOOOO" , posted Wed 31 Aug 08:03post reply

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Today in IBARA I got the death moan to play, but I didn't lose a life or explode.


How silly of me. Today I was playing, and I realize that it will play one of the character's death moans to signify that your 10k medal combo was just reset.

I have no idea why it uses the same sound as player death to signify this. Seems kind of lazy.





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"Re(6):TOKYOOOO" , posted Sun 4 Sep 00:53:post reply

Today I went to this:

http://magicacid.sakura.ne.jp/cis-trance/touhoucarnival.htm

It was the most guys I've seen wearing tucked in flannel and khakis in a night club ever.





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"Re(1):Tokyo chair" , posted Sun 4 Sep 01:33post reply

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Right click and save me if you are no one can see you.

NOT WORK SAFE.


Iggy, your life in Japan promises to be so exciting when you go there next year...





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"Re(2):Tokyo chair" , posted Mon 5 Sep 22:36post reply

Here's my latest flame war on SRK

http://shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93127&page=22&pp=15