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"Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 02:47post reply

So, I was thinking about how cool is Julius Belmont, because his awesome theme and his older design, when I came up with this stupid, but curious question. So, who's your favorite. explain why, with spoiler tags, if necessary.

Who's your favorite Belmont?
Leon Belmont
Sonia Belmont
Trevor Belmont
Christopher Belmont
Simon Belmont
Juste Belmont
Richter Belmont
Julius Belmont







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"Re(1):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 02:51post reply

Time Mage's poll is brilliant! While old-school Simon is certainly legit, Richter was the first one I ever saw (believe it or not, I managed to own Nocturne in the Moonlight way before I played all the platformers) and I like his blue outfit, it's a step up from the rags poor Simon wears. His Nocturne makeover was pretty classy, too, and I love his theme music that plays as you battle him (and obviously in level one of Rondo, too).

I support Trevor just because he has an initial in his real Ralph C. Belmont name. Ralph C. ...heh, how excellent.

I also wanted to show support, but didn't, for Sonia, who stupid IGA effectively erased despite her being a strong, attractive female lead whose story tied in with Alucard's nicely.





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"Re(1):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 02:52post reply

quote:
So, I was thinking about how cool is Julius Belmont, because his awesome theme and his older design, when I came up with this stupid, but curious question. So, who's your favorite. explain why, with spoiler tags, if necessary.

Poll


Segismund Belmont, because he could analize every vampire fetish before going into a killing rampage.





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"Re(1):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 03:01post reply

I can't remember who's who.





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"Re(2):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 03:19post reply

quote:
I can't remember who's who.



I don't remember most, but for the sake of completion, I informed myself briefly so everyone would be there.


And seriously, Julius rocks. He can teleport, he's fast, he has a grrrreat theme (I said it already but I don't care), even his voice is great. And

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
he, even with aid, sealed Dracula once and for all, unlike his predecessors. Hah! I'd love a Castlevania with classic gameplay featuring him against Dracula, along with Alucard and co.

End of Spoiler



I also like Simon, for being a classic (and because of his theme in Super Castlevania IV, which also rocks) and Sonia has charm, too. it's pity IGA thinks too much, and scrapped her out of the story because she was a woman. This is fiction, dammit!





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"Re(2):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 03:22post reply

quote:
I can't remember who's who.


Tohohohohoh.





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"Re(3):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 04:54:post reply

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And seriously, Julius rocks. He can teleport, he's fast, he has a grrrreat theme (I said it already but I don't care), even his voice is great. And -spoiler-

That's why I was really surprised to see the new CVs were taking place after CV3 and AoS. The one after LoI and CV '99 are the most "needed" ones, plot-wise.

And don't start me with "CV doesn't have a plot, blah, blah". That's precisely what Iga & co. are working towards.
If that's a good or a bad thing, tho', I shall not discuss. From my POV I like everything they've done so far except introducing the "Mathias" element (although that oughta be explained with the sequel to LOI) and them taking it the easy way and wiping off COTM, the 64 games and (specially, since plot-wise those 3 were quite... ugh...) Sonia's story just because it wouldn't match their version.

And, TM, (I can't help being "repelente"... ) you forgot a few:

- John Morris
EDIT: - Soleiyu Belmont
(however you spell that)

Non-canon anymore, like Sonia:
- Victor Belmont
- Reinhardt Schneider







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"Re(3):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 05:16:post reply

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Tohohohohoh.



that character page is down, so: check here!

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btw richter!
though my favorite vampire killer is soma cruz.





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"Re(4):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 05:21post reply

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And, TM, (I can't help being "repelente"... ) you forgot a few:

- John Morris
EDIT: - Soleiyu Belmont
(however you spell that)

Non-canon anymore, like Sonia:
- Victor Belmont
- Reinhardt Schneider





John Morris and Reindhart Schneider aren't Belmonts, they have belmont blood at the very least, but I didn't count them because of that.
About Soleiyu Belmont... He is a Belmont, but it doesn't look like he's ever been a vampire hunter, so that's why I didn't include him. He only gets kidnapped.

Además, se dice "tocapelotas", no "repelente" ;)





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"Re(1):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 05:24post reply

Simon. Who can top the original (plus, he's the hero in my favorite CV games)





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"Re(5):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 05:34post reply

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John Morris and Reindhart Schneider aren't Belmonts, they have belmont blood at the very least, but I didn't count them because of that.

Nope, they officially are (well, actually, John IS and Reinhardt WAS). The name just got lost at some point (Probably descendants of a female Belmont).
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About Soleiyu Belmont... He is a Belmont, but it doesn't look like he's ever been a vampire hunter, so that's why I didn't include him. He only gets kidnapped.


Well, he was about to receive the whip when he was taken by Drac. And I guess he became a Vampire Hunter with his Vampire Killer, which he passed down to his son who, etc, to Simon Belmont, who is the next "known" one.
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Además, se dice "tocapelotas", no "repelente" ;)

Llámalo como quieras, pero es superior a mí. No puedo evitarlo, soy el "repelente niño Vicente". u_u





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"Re(4):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 05:36post reply

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Non-canon anymore, like Sonia:
- Victor Belmont
- Reinhardt Schneider





Are you serious? Each Castlevania happens during a specific time period, they can all happen. I mean, what's his face didn't even fight Dracula and Lament of Innocence leaving Sonia to still be the first to fight him still... heh, I'm usually the one to talk about canon around here and then get told no one cares about canon...

What wouldn't make sense though is why Sonia fought Alucard, what was that about? One of them Nintendo Power Guides said something like, "They were friends and now they are not" whatever the Hell that was supposed to mean. Didn't make sense in the game, doesn't make sense now, course I didn't actually play the game so...

But anyways I went with Simon Belmont. He was the first one we met, and ladies were proposing marriage to him in Simon's Quest, even old ones, LOL! Richter WAS cool when he had the Anime look until he got 'gayed' up in Symphony of the Night. Speaking of Symphony, it revealed that Alucard was the one to help Trevor. Now, to access Alucard's ghost in part 3 you can not get Grant Dynasty or Sypha Belnades, and seeing how Tevor got the worst ghost (Alucard was lame in that game compared to Grant and Sypha, not to mention his path was harder and a pain in the Ass, I still have nightmares about falling blocks...) Trevor lost some cool points with me. Should of taken the Grant/Sypha route... and Sypha's a girl too, WHOA...





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"Re(5):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 05:47:post reply

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Are you serious? Each Castlevania happens during a specific time period, they can all happen. I mean, what's his face didn't even fight Dracula and Lament of Innocence leaving Sonia to still be the first to fight him still...

I know that. They're just not anymore because Iga & co. said so.
Officially Circle of the Moon, the N64 games and Legends (Sonia's one) never happened.
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heh, I'm usually the one to talk about canon around here and then get told no one cares about canon...

Generally, I'm a plot whore. You're not alone, my friend.
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What wouldn't make sense though is why Sonia fought Alucard, what was that about? One of them Nintendo Power Guides said something like, "They were friends and now they are not" whatever the Hell that was supposed to mean. Didn't make sense in the game, doesn't make sense now, course I didn't actually play the game so...

He tested her to see if she was actually capable of facing Daddy. He saw she was, and then decided to go to bed, instead of helping her. u_u
And they were more than friends.
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Speaking of Symphony, it revealed that Alucard was the one to help Trevor. Now, to access Alucard's ghost in part 3 you can not get Grant Dynasty or Sypha Belnades, and seeing how Tevor got the worst ghost (Alucard was lame in that game compared to Grant and Sypha, not to mention his path was harder and a pain in the Ass, I still have nightmares about falling blocks...) Trevor lost some cool points with me. Should of taken the Grant/Sypha route... and Sypha's a girl too, WHOA...


That was only gameplay-wise. Again, officially the 3 "helpers" were met by Ralph and the four of them together beat Dracula. After all Alucard has to fight his 3 companions in the same Symphony.
It's also official Ralph and Sypha got married (and one can guess that made the Belmonts more powerful in magic).

Actually, in the dungeon there used to be a couple of scans with Iga's official chronology... When I find them I'll post them.

EDIT: Mitsuketa. From the AOS Artbook:
1 2

In the first one you can see Ralph C Belmont (Belmondo, Jap name) and Sypha Belnades (Vernandesu, in katakana, my guess is they originally meant Fernández. Spanish, yay! ^_^) combined both clans.

And, altho' LOI was still not made here, the previously mentioned games are nowhere to be seen.





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"Re(5):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 05:48post reply

I agree with Sano, I was under the impression the 3D Belmont came even before her, considering Drac didn't even exist at that point.





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"Re(6):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 05:55post reply

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John Morris and Reindhart Schneider aren't Belmonts, they have belmont blood at the very least, but I didn't count them because of that.
Nope, they officially are (well, actually, John IS and Reinhardt WAS). The name just got lost at some point (Probably descendants of a female Belmont).


OK, I'll give you a better reason: It's MY poll. Hah!





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"Re(6):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 06:00post reply

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That was only gameplay-wise. Again, officially the 3 "helpers" were met by Ralph and the four of them together beat Dracula. After all Alucard has to fight his 3 companions in the same Symphony.
It's also official Ralph and Sypha got married (and one can guess that made the Belmonts more powerful in magic).

Actually, in the dungeon there used to be a couple of scans with Iga's official chronology... When I find them I'll post them.



I used to have the dungeon listed as one of my favorites until I lost it so if you could find the link I'd appreciate it. Back then they used to say all of the games where canon, but they also said the Kid Dracula games were canon and that much at least can't be anymore since Lamont showed there was no Kid Dracula.

So I'm guessing in America he is called Trevor Belmont and in Japan he is called Ralph Belmont in Castlevania 3?

And I just thought Alucard running into Sypha and Grant in Symphony was just so they could do... something since they did nothing in Castlevania 3 the way I saw it. But if I stop to think about it, there is a Belnades in Aria of Sorrow indicating she'd have to become un-statued, I suspect the Belnades in Aria of Sorrow is a cousin of the Belmonts or something?

Anwyway, thanks again for your info and speedy response!





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"Re(7):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 06:13post reply

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OK, I'll give you a better reason: It's MY poll. Hah!

But... but I... but...
I surrender. I lost.
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I used to have the dungeon listed as one of my favorites until I lost it so if you could find the link I'd appreciate it.

There wou went.
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So I'm guessing in America he is called Trevor Belmont and in Japan he is called Ralph Belmont in Castlevania 3?

Yup. Why the change? Go figure... u_u;
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But if I stop to think about it, there is a Belnades in Aria of Sorrow indicating she'd have to become un-statued, I suspect the Belnades in Aria of Sorrow is a cousin of the Belmonts or something?

Well, that's more probably what it is. Either that or Sypha got her own descendants before or after marrying Ralph/Trevor. That'd imply a divorce, quite improbable at those times
There was another Belnades/Vernandesu/Fernández, anyway: Carrie, from the 64 games, but they are not to be taken as canon anymore so...

And speaking about descendants... One's gotta wonder how Juste came out being an albino coming from a lineage of rambo-like men...
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Anwyway, thanks again for your info and speedy response!


You're welcome. Here I am, at home, having nothing better to do. ^_^





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"Re(8):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 08:06post reply

I voted for Simon, the only Belmont who's smart enough to slash his whip in any direction...I bet endogamy ruined Belmont genes in the end...





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"Re(9):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 08:26post reply

I didn't know this word before...





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"Re(10):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 10:36post reply

Simon Belmont.... because he was my first...







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"Re(10):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 10:39post reply

Ralph and no other. Because unlike so many other Belmonts, Ralph didn't have shitty magic parlor tricks or overly athletic feats to rely on. And unlike Simon, he had friends. RALPH!





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"Re(2):Re(10):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 14:12post reply

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Ralph and no other. Because unlike so many other Belmonts, Ralph didn't have shitty magic parlor tricks or overly athletic feats to rely on. And unlike Simon, he had friends. RALPH!



Simon had friends.







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"Re(3):Re(10):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 19:58post reply

Simon, the 1st vampire hunter I've played as...






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"Re(8):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 20:05post reply

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And speaking about descendants... One's gotta wonder how Juste came out being an albino coming from a lineage of rambo-like men...



Well, if you count Legends, then technically all of the Belmonts past Trevor are relatives of both Sypha and Alucard. I just figured that Juste was the result of the "recessive" Belnades and Fahrenheit genes. In fact, I think they even mentioned the direct connection between Juste and Sypha at some point during the promotion of the game.

Oh, and I believe that Belnades and Fernandez are the same thing, so Carrie Fernandez and Yoko Belnades are technically related to the Belmonts. It's kind of cool how they managed to weave all of this throughout the games, so it's a shame that they're ignoring certain games now instead of just remaking Legends as a PS2 or GBA game.





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"Re(3):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sat 11 Jun 23:07post reply

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I can't remember who's who.

Tohohohohoh.



Here I was looking for the Dungeon's site and you posted it here all along. Thanks, it's back in my favorites!





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"Re(10):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sun 12 Jun 00:24post reply

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I didn't know this word before...

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"Re(2):Re(10):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sun 12 Jun 02:38post reply

I bet Simon didn't have enough friends. Ralph is definitely a people person, as shown by his ability to make friends with pirates and strange girls and unfriendly half-vamps. He probably used his stellar middle initial to introduce himself at parties in a smarmy way. "Hi~i. I'm Ralph C. Belmont."





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"Re(3):Re(10):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sun 12 Jun 03:20post reply

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I bet Simon didn't have enough friends. Ralph is definitely a people person, as shown by his ability to make friends with pirates and strange girls and unfriendly half-vamps. He probably used his stellar middle initial to introduce himself at parties in a smarmy way. "Hi~i. I'm Ralph C. Belmont."



All of Simon's Male friends were jealous of him because random women in the street would propose marriage to him (Simon's Quest) and his friends couldn't take any girls out because the streets at night and the woods all day were littered with monsters and that was... his fault for destoying Dracula in the first place and letting his six body parts get away. DOH! Ironically no one seemed to like the goofball Simon on Captain N either, except for an eight legged Octupus lady in Wombat Land, an overweight princess in Xanadu, and a big female gorilla who winked at him in Kongo Land during season two...





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"Re(9):Favourite Belmont?" , posted Sun 12 Jun 06:25post reply

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Well, if you count Legends, then technically all of the Belmonts past Trevor are relatives of both Sypha and Alucard. I just figured that Juste was the result of the "recessive" Belnades and Fahrenheit genes. In fact, I think they even mentioned the direct connection between Juste and Sypha at some point during the promotion of the game.

Oh, that was just a stupid joke... ^_^
And also, as long as Iga's team don't say the opposite, Legends is supposedly not to be "counted" anymore.
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Oh, and I believe that Belnades and Fernandez are the same thing, so Carrie Fernandez and Yoko Belnades are technically related to the Belmonts.

True, although I believe that Yoko and Carrie are rather related with some other line of the Belnades/Vernandes/Fernández and not descendants of the Belmonts (They would've said so if it was the case).
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It's kind of cool how they managed to weave all of this throughout the games, so it's a shame that they're ignoring certain games now instead of just remaking Legends as a PS2 or GBA game.


Yup, a shame indeed. But it's also true that 64 games' story was a bit... eh... "ugly" and unconsiderate towards the rest, with things like the beginning that goes "like every 100 years Dracula rises again..." (or similar) when between SOTN and the Dracula novel (these games supposedly happened in the 19th century) there are exactly 100 years.

But it still was a shame that they just took the easy way and blew them off the official chronology. An ugly move.





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