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"Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Wed 8 Jun 03:59post reply

Not really pushed back, but the next Samusupi, that was to be released in august, will be released by "the end of august" now.

I'm not sure it will be enough to prevent the clash with Nejibako... (#r/ is not a problem, since I don't think there are many players of both GG and SS. The problem will be that many operators who won't be able to afford all these games in such a short time).





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"Re(1):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Wed 8 Jun 04:16post reply

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Not really pushed back, but the next Samusupi, that was to be released in august, will be released by "the end of august" now.

I'm not sure it will be enough to prevent the clash with Nejibako... (#r/ is not a problem, since I don't think there are many players of both GG and SS. The problem will be that many operators who won't be able to afford all these games in such a short time).


Wait, so #R/ is real?!

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"Re(2):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Wed 8 Jun 04:34post reply

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Wait, so #R/ is real?!

ISHIWATARIIIIIIIIII!!!!


There was never really reason to think it wasn't real. Just, people who didn't see things with their own eyes in the first 2 seconds of hearing about it think it's cool to go "OH MAN I WAS THERE WHEN OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS REAL BUT I TOTALLY DIDN'T, REMEMBER THAT!?" Nobody remembers though, so not sure why they care.

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"Re(1):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Wed 8 Jun 04:35post reply

Hmmm, so it would seem like SS Tenka will not get as many loke tests as SSZS or NBC...
I think they should push it back some more, so that NBC doesn't overshadow it, and also so it can get tested and polished as much as possible...





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"Re(3):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Wed 8 Jun 05:07:post reply

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There was never really reason to think it wasn't real.

But anyway. ISHIWATARIIIIIIIIII!!!! Indeed.


I was just hoping it wasn't real so it wouldn't be like the tenth game to use the same exact (however pretty they might be) GGX sprites with only minor/vague improvements and maybe ONE "new" character. Hell, ABA was already in Isuka, so it doesn't even have that going for it. Please stop milking the same game over and over, Ishiwatari. Please.

Plus, I remember seeing what was supposed to be the select screen art for ABA in this game and it was dreadfully ugly. Like not even the same style as everyone else.





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"Re(1):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Wed 8 Jun 05:50post reply

hmmm. I would hope that one more loke test for SS Tenka would happen by the end of the month to account for the 4 remaining chars.





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"Re(2):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Wed 8 Jun 06:16post reply

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hmmm. I would hope that one more loke test for SS Tenka would happen by the end of the month to account for the 4 remaining chars.
I think the schedule was of 2 games tested every 3 week. After SS we had KOF, then Hokuto no Ken(was it ? I'm not sure already...), then #R/ by the end of next week ?
Yeah, the end of the month sounds plausible for Kensamu. At worst early July. They still have 4 characters to show and test.

(#R/ is scheduled for september, by the way. And the other character with Aba is an alternate version of Sol).





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"Re(3):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Wed 8 Jun 06:48post reply

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They still have 4 characters to show and test.

So maybe pushing it back isn't such a bad thing!





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"Re(4):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Wed 8 Jun 12:42post reply

One of the four is probably going to be like a 3rd version of Robo-ky.

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"Re(5):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Wed 8 Jun 13:05post reply

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One of the four is probably going to be like a 3rd version of Robo-ky.

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Not if it's a Ken Samu character, it isn't.

3 even sort of new characters in a minor upgrade cash-in game like #R/? Ha.





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"Re(6):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Wed 8 Jun 13:14post reply

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3 even sort of new characters in a minor upgrade cash-in game like #R/? Ha.


They'll edit Ky's head onto Slayer's body and give him Zappa's dog or something.
It's cool. Let's enjoy a great showtime.





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"Re(7):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Wed 8 Jun 16:39post reply

Just to be sure everyone follows : Ken Samu misses 4 characters (probably : Sieger, Chamcham, Assquake, Kuroko, if they don't add a new female character)

#R/ is #reload, with the exact same design (minor font difference and the little characters near the bar have been replaced by the face of the official art), with Aba and Holy Knight Sol added.

That's all we know/suppose for now.





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"Re(8):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Thu 9 Jun 04:49post reply

#R/ beta test

I'm so clevah.





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"Re(9):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Thu 9 Jun 05:04:post reply

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#R/ beta test

I'm so clevah.


Ugh...so it really is real.

Even the ugly as hell ABA artwork.

Bring me the the head of...
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"Re(8):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Thu 9 Jun 05:14post reply

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That's all we know/suppose for now.



Well, and character tweaks of course. Sounds like there're some general system tweaks abit though too, like all pushback being a lot farther. Bah. But yeah I pretty much agree with Nate on this being a waste of time. Though, if people are still happy to play it in Japan, it makes sense to just build on its tournament qualities over time. The problem is if people are going to be expected to pay full price for some kind of home version of this. Though, this version doesn't really sound like it's as full of an update as Reload, which I was actually all for.

Holy Order Sol doesn't really sound like something to use in the arcades though, damn.

Anyway. I think that ABA art is still pretty neat. Not sure why you'd act like Ishiwatari doesn't draw every character differently pretty much every single time. Is that a flattering drawing of ABA? No. She's supposed to be pretty much dead anyway. It's up to the fancommunity to draw her blushing bending over with the face of an 11 year old every time. So, look forward to that. But don't randomly be taken aback when Daisuke does what he always does, except to a female character.





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"Re(9):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Thu 9 Jun 05:21post reply

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Anyway. I think that ABA art is still pretty neat. Not sure why you'd act like Ishiwatari doesn't draw every character differently pretty much every single time. Is that a flattering drawing of ABA? No. She's supposed to be pretty much dead anyway. It's up to the fancommunity to draw her blushing bending over with the face of an 11 year old every time. So, look forward to that. But don't randomly be taken aback when Daisuke does what he always does, except to a female character.


I think my problem with the drawing is that it doesn't even seem to be in the same style as everyone else. It's that bad. I'm glad ABA isn't beautiful or whatever but jeez, a little consistency never hurt anyone.





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"Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Thu 9 Jun 09:09post reply

Considering her Frankensteinian backstory I don't expect ABA to be all that fetching but yeesh. Also, is it just the slight distortion in how she's drawn or is her head attached at an odd angle?





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"Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Thu 9 Jun 13:30:post reply

Daisuke's never been consistent. Yeah, he's been more consistent in his official art than say, his artbooks, but he still draws pretty nutty. I could pull things up if you want, but really, that's just him. He really doesn't draw most of his characters the same way every time at all. In this case, besides the linework on the eyes and mouth, it's the same style as anybody.

It actually is pretty consistent with the FLCL influence she was partly spawned from though.





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"Re(2):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Thu 9 Jun 14:20post reply

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Daisuke's never been consistent. Yeah, he's been more consistent in his official art than say, his artbooks, but he still draws pretty nutty. I could pull things up if you want, but really, that's just him. He really doesn't draw most of his characters the same way every time at all. In this case, besides the linework on the eyes and mouth, it's the same style as anybody.

It actually is pretty consistent with the FLCL influence she was partly spawned from though.



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"Re(3):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Thu 9 Jun 18:02post reply

(watches the Ishiwatari art discution)
(remember the Bridget art where he's totally stoned, and how they dared using THIS as a select portait)
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"Re(4):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Thu 9 Jun 19:05post reply

Don't even bring Ishiwatari into this. He doesn't do the CG for the in-game art anyway. That's why it doesn't look anything like his character designs/promo pics. It's silly to call him "inconsistent" because of another artist's work.





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"SNKP update" , posted Thu 9 Jun 21:45post reply

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Not really pushed back, but the next Samusupi, that was to be released in august, will be released by "the end of august" now.

I'm not sure it will be enough to prevent the clash with Nejibako... (#r/ is not a problem, since I don't think there are many players of both GG and SS. The problem will be that many operators who won't be able to afford all these games in such a short time).

Hey Iggy-san, SNK Playmore has posted a very interesting update this week.The new upcoming Samu has its' own site now with the first batch of character profiles, and speaking of which, Nejibako has the first and coolest of the bosses, Mizuchi.





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"Re(1):SNKP update" , posted Thu 9 Jun 21:55post reply

Looks like SS Tenka won't have 40 characters... But 42. O_o

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"Re(2):SNKP update" , posted Thu 9 Jun 22:39post reply

I wonder why Basara is up there with the important historical characters of the series, Nako, Haômaru or Garurun.

Maybe the guy who makes the official site wasn't able to recognize that blue-haired character through the generic art and thought it was Ukyô.





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"Re(1):SNKP update" , posted Thu 9 Jun 23:52post reply

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The new upcoming Samu has its' own site now with the first batch of character profiles, and speaking of which, Nejibako has the first and coolest of the bosses, Mizuchi.



I fail to see where Mizuki is anywhere cool.





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"Re(2):SNKP update" , posted Fri 10 Jun 01:46post reply

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I fail to see where Mizuki is anywhere cool.


The way she dishes out her dog attacks nowadays is both amusing and terrifying. It's not quite as great as Grand Master Meio throwing fish at you for no good reason but it still makes for a memorable boss.





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"Re(3):SNKP update" , posted Fri 10 Jun 01:56post reply

You guys are confused between Mizuchi and Mizuki...





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"Re(4):SNKP update" , posted Fri 10 Jun 02:17:post reply

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You guys are confused between Mizuchi and Mizuki...



Dammit, you're right.
I was talking about that horrible copipe from '97 Orochi, not Rashoujin Mizuki, who is, IMHO, one of the best bosses created ever.

My mistake.

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"Goofup on SS Oficial Page" , posted Fri 10 Jun 02:31post reply

HAHAHA Did anyone else notice that on the character profiles that above the list of games underneath the profile, it says "Entry for the KoF series"

I mean I know it was pretty obvious that they're using the same basic layout as the KoF 10th page, but it's kind of funny (Haohmaru's birth year is missing as well for some reason)





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"Re(3):SNKP update" , posted Fri 10 Jun 04:08post reply

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I wonder why Basara is up there with the important historical characters of the series, Nako, Haômaru or Garurun.

Maybe the guy who makes the official site wasn't able to recognize that blue-haired character through the generic art and thought it was Ukyô.

Bwa ha ha ha ha, sad as it is, I think all evidence points to something like this happening (it has all of the "core charas" except Ukyo, and then.. Basara?)

Anyway, 42, eh? I wonder who the hell else they could add (barring new charas, obviously)





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"Re(5):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Fri 10 Jun 06:13post reply

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Don't even bring Ishiwatari into this. He doesn't do the CG for the in-game art anyway. That's why it doesn't look anything like his character designs/promo pics. It's silly to call him "inconsistent" because of another artist's work.



Um, yeah he doesn't do the actual digital coloring and such by himself, but I'm pretty certain it's still basically his stuff.





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"Re(1):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Fri 10 Jun 07:14post reply

In other website news, the Japanese page has a new column and Amakusa Korin added to their games list. The english site has a start on its characters page.





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"Re(4):SNKP update" , posted Fri 10 Jun 15:56post reply

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Anyway, 42, eh? I wonder who the hell else they could add (barring new charas, obviously)
I'll say : Assquake / Chamcham / Kuroko / Sieger / Poppy / New female character ?

On the other hand, a playable Mamahaha would be awesome.





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"Re(5):SNKP update" , posted Fri 10 Jun 17:26post reply

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On the other hand, a playable Mamahaha would be awesome.



Would Mamahaha be named "Pet Shop"?





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"Re(6):SNKP update" , posted Fri 10 Jun 18:18post reply

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Would Mamahaha be named "Pet Shop"?


I hope not, I hated Pet Shop in the Jojo game.
I don't know, you could have the same team Mamahaha + Nako, but this time you control Mamahaha and Nako is the one obeying your orders.
Or a team Mamahaha + Shikuru.





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"Re(7):SNKP update" , posted Fri 10 Jun 18:24post reply

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I don't know, you could have the same team Mamahaha + Nako, but this time you control Mamahaha and Nako is the one obeying your orders.




That would be awesome. But you know the real answer is...



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"Re(7):SNKP update" , posted Fri 10 Jun 18:25post reply

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I don't know, you could have the same team Mamahaha + Nako, but this time you control Mamahaha and Nako is the one obeying your orders.




That would be awesome. But you know the real answer is...



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"Re(8):SNKP update" , posted Fri 10 Jun 18:41post reply

Or the Vagina dog.
That would be the best thing ever.





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"Re(5):SNKP update" , posted Sat 11 Jun 02:31post reply

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Anyway, 42, eh? I wonder who the hell else they could add (barring new charas, obviously) I'll say : Assquake / Chamcham / Kuroko / Sieger / Poppy / New female character ?



Dare I hope for (a possibly resized) Shiki and Asura?

Or maybe it'll be Poppy and the Edo Express Deilvery guy. :|





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"Re(6):SNKP update" , posted Sat 11 Jun 02:51post reply

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Or maybe it'll be Poppy and the Edo Express Deilvery guy. :|

Having Hikyaku would be kind of cool, I think... He was in the GB version of SS1 as a hidden character, for those who forgot.

I don't care much for Poppy at all though... I think it'd be okay to have her in, but I don't want her to occupy a slot... More something like "hold start and pick Galford" to select Poppy, which would mean she wouldn't count as one of the 42 characters.





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"Waiting for SNKP update" , posted Thu 23 Jun 15:28post reply

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You guys are confused between Mizuchi and Mizuki...

Well, seeing that it's been a little while since my last post, I surely was disappointed that there was no interesting updates whatsoever last week.Hoping for some real stuff today.





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"Re(7):SNKP update" , posted Thu 23 Jun 18:02post reply

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Or maybe it'll be Poppy and the Edo Express Deilvery guy. :|
Having Hikyaku would be kind of cool, I think... He was in the GB version of SS1 as a hidden character, for those who forgot.


I remember, even if IMO SS2's Kuruko would be my dream...






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"Re(8):SNKP update" , posted Thu 23 Jun 18:39post reply

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I remember, even if IMO SS2's Kuruko would be my dream...


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"Re(9):SNKP update" , posted Thu 23 Jun 21:40post reply

Lets see, Tam Tam, Rasetsumaru, Mina, Yunfei, Gedo, and Yoshitora added to the Tenka page this week.

Character page updated and download page added to the english SS page.

Japanese SS page gets SS 64 and a column update.





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"Re(10):SNKP update" , posted Thu 23 Jun 23:53post reply

Chonrei in Nejibako = just another way to spell "waste".





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"Re(2):Re(10):SNKP update" , posted Fri 24 Jun 02:52post reply

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Chonrei in Nejibako = just another way to spell "waste".

Well well Iggy-san, I guess it's easily fair to say which of the two Jin twin brothers is the better one, right?Let's just see how the game will end up since it's out next month.





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"Re(1):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sat 25 Jun 09:08post reply

Check out Cyberfanatix.com or Neogamez.net and get a movie covering a show done in Mexico to check out the SS Tenka intro.

It shows Earthquake, Wan-Fu, Nicotine, Gen-an and Sieger followed in the middle by Cham Cham. Earthquake, Sieger and Cham Cham are all in. The last one brings a tear of happiness to my eye. She's been left out for so long.

There appears to be some kimono girl on the screen soon after. I think this is a 4th original character being brought in. Then of course the robot the diaper wearing guy and Andrew.

The only thing missing from the game now is the blood. It ain't that hard to add Imoya.





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"Re(2):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sat 25 Jun 11:09post reply

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There appears to be some kimono girl on the screen soon after. I think this is a 4th original character being brought in.


I knew it.There must be one more new character according to select screen.Her slot must be above andrews or below diaper guy.
And now i sense that kimono girl might be similar to soulcaliburs sasuke.

Im glad Cham Cham is back.





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"Re(2):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sat 25 Jun 12:25post reply

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The only thing missing from the game now is the blood. It ain't that hard to add Imoya.



Thinking back of all the choices that Imoya has made I think that they might even have problems doing coffee...

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"Re(3):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sat 25 Jun 16:08post reply

Iroha kita !

And no, no blood for this game, thank you.





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"Re(3):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sat 25 Jun 16:18post reply

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There appears to be some kimono girl on the screen soon after. I think this is a 4th original character being brought in.

I knew it.There must be one more new character according to select screen.Her slot must be above andrews or below diaper guy.
And now i sense that kimono girl might be similar to soulcaliburs sasuke.

Im glad Cham Cham is back.



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"Re(4):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sat 25 Jun 16:42:post reply

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And no, no blood for this game, thank you.



That's a blowjob to this game. Everybody wants it, but Imoya won't give it to em. Piss scared Japs are afraid of a little bit of bloodshed because some schoolgirl went apeshit on her classmate and everyone bought it. It's a completely stupid excuse for this series to go the Soul Calibur route.

I'll go kill someone now.





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"Re(4):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sat 25 Jun 16:50:post reply

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Sasuke from soul calibur? who?



I think that's a corruption of "Setsuka".





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"Re(5):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 01:44:post reply

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Piss scared Japs are afraid of a little bit of bloodshed because some schoolgirl went apeshit on her classmate and everyone bought it. It's a completely stupid excuse for this series to go the Soul Calibur route.


So that warrants a moderately offensive diatribe, then? Not having blood won't RUIN the game or anything, and I thought they said this one was "non lethal" or something a long time ago which made me not expect that kind of thing, anyway (something like "it's a matsuri game"). This just reminds me of the moaning about the fatalities being removed from the home version of SS0S, which was worse because they had essentially fooled consumers who were HOPING they were there; In this case they're at least giving you advanced notice(and as for the fatality removal, it was annoying and pointless and all, but I didn't REALLY care, most of them were damn stupid, anyway.) I really just can't believe how much bitching goes on about games even before they're out nowadays.

Edit: I guess my point here is that blood doesn't MAKE a game, that's a silly attitude to take, and one that's more in line with Mortal Kombat fandom. (OOOOH, MK bashing)





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"Re(5):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 02:10post reply

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Sasuke from soul calibur? who?


I think that's a corruption of "Setsuka".


sorry about spelling her name.i mean setsuka.i really didnt remember her name when i post it.


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And if new sstenka "kimono girl" looks like Setsuka i think that it will be a who came first situation like felicia and cham cham.

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"Re(6):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 02:38post reply

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I thought he was joking. I mean, he's not that stupid, is he ?

Blood = no Matsuri = no Sugoroku or Ochamaro.
Plus, the Matsuri element is really interesting, since it gives the game a flavor and a constistancy most other dream matches don't have. And even if the music is a little off, it's still better than "no scenario and a bunch of character that meet for the sake of it".





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"Re(5):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 02:40:post reply

now that more charas are in this game, the list grows to 39.

1) Haohmaru
2) Nakoruru
3) Charlotte
4) Jubei
5) Galford
6) Ukyo
7) Hanzo
8) Tam Tam
9) Kyoshiro
10) Genjuro
11) Rimururu
12) Shizumaru
13) Basara
14) Gaira
15) Kazuki
16) Sougetsu
17) Yoshitora
18) Mina
19) Yunfei
20) Kusare Gedo
21) Rera
22) Rasetsumaru
23) Andrew
24) Ochamaro
25) Sugoroku
26) Wanfu
27) Nicotine
28) Sankuro
29) Yumeji
30) Cham Cham
31) Earthquake
32) Seiger
33) Gen-an
34) Amakusa
35) Mizuki
36) Zankuro
37) Gaoh
38) Suija
39) Enja

So we still have 3 slots left over.
40) Poppy
41) Shiki
42) Asura

Kuroko? Hanma? Gandara? Taizan? Rasetsu Galford?


Poppy would be one I think. Maybe Shiki and Asura since they dont really have to draw them. Just scan them in and recolor them. Kuroko might be in too.





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"Re(7):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 02:44post reply

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I thought he was joking. I mean, he's not that stupid, is he ?

? Me? What? You seem to agree with what I was saying, though.





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"Re(6):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 02:45:post reply

Saiki : you forgot a few characters, at least Suija&Enja...

As for the Polysamu characters, they're out.

Red Falcon : of course I agree with you, I thought the guy was not serious with his rant...





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Oh, sorry, sorry! My brain isn't working properly today, I'm seeing everything through the haze of bad Chinese food.





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"Re(7):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 03:00post reply

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Saiki : you forgot a few characters, at least Suija&Enja...




oops, I dunno how I forgot those two....





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"Re(7):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 03:40:post reply

I don't care if this is some kinda Matsuri festival. To me, blood is one of the trademarks to every SS game. Not having blood in a Samurai Spirits game is like removing butter from bread. It just doesn't taste as good. SNKP is just trying to use the Matsuri storyline as an excuse to go the route to avoid lawsuits which in itself is a very unlikely event. I can swing with lack of fatalities (ala SS Zero) but taking the blood completely out ruins the game's trademark atmosphere. I'm dead serious about my rant. When you cut someone you bleed, no matter if it's a festival, dance, war, whatever it is.





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"Re(8):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 08:32:post reply

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When you cut someone you bleed, no matter if it's a festival, dance, war, whatever it is.

It's a video game, they throw tornadoes and can emit flames from their swords, when does "realism" come in to it? The lack of blood doesn't radically change the game, and if you aren't in Japan, chances are you've always played it with the blood off anyway (most arcade owners in the U.S. and Europe don't seem to realize they can set the blood on via the dip switches) Anyway, I wasn't saying you're WRONG for not being pleased at the lack of blood, that's your decision; I'm saying screaming "Damn Japs, blah blah! I'm an American, they can't do this to me! Oh, I'm so ANGRY!!" was decidedly silly and your upset about the blood being removed could have been expressed in a decidedly more mature manner (especially considering we have some Japanese posters here). And besides all of this other stuff, it's their franchise, they can do whatever the hell they want with it. If they wanted to turn Haohmaru in to a cow and have him breathe fire they could, although I think that WOULD actually affect the way the fanbase felt about it. This game is being developed for the Japanese market, and a very small market at that; chances are their target market (the people who will actually put money in the game) won't give a crap if the blood is there or not.

I for one am damn well going to snag this if it's good, might finally give me a reason to pick up an Atomiswave, which I had second thoughs about after I lost interest in Battle Coliseum (which I'm still going to give a shot, just not when it's 1500 dollars)





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"Re(9):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 09:15post reply

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It's a video game, they throw tornadoes and can emit flames from their swords, when does "realism" come in to it? The lack of blood doesn't radically change the game, and if you aren't in Japan, chances are you've always played it with the blood off anyway (most arcade owners in the U.S. and Europe don't seem to realize they can set the blood on via the dip switches) Anyway, I wasn't saying you're WRONG for not being pleased at the lack of blood, that's your decision; I'm saying screaming "Damn Japs, blah blah! I'm an American, they can't do this to me! Oh, I'm so ANGRY!!" was decidedly silly and your upset about the blood being removed could have been expressed in a decidedly more mature manner (especially considering we have some Japanese posters here). And besides all of this other stuff, it's their franchise, they can do whatever the hell they want with it. If they wanted to turn Haohmaru in to a cow and have him breathe fire they could, although I think that WOULD actually affect the way the fanbase felt about it. This game is being developed for the Japanese market, and a very small market at that; chances are their target market (the people who will actually put money in the game) won't give a crap if the blood is there or not.

I for one am damn well going to snag this if it's good, might finally give me a reason to pick up an Atomiswave, which I had second thoughs about after I lost interest in Battle Coliseum (which I'm still going to give a shot, just not when it's 1500 dollars)



Good for you, but Imoya is making a big mistake taking away from the dark gritty atmosphere that SS was built off of. Blood literally made up several of their game's logos, like SS Zero. BTW, the blood was there in ALL SS games. It was just censored white because they thought we in America would sue them or they thought we were too violent people and we would easily bend to this kind of violence. I had suspected they'd do something like this since the SS0 Special censorship fiasco, and given their director is a big soccer mom, it came as no surprise when I learned they weren't intending on putting the blood in in the first place.

If they want to succeed, they should concentrate on satisfying those around the world, and not just in Japan where they make em. Many times I think SNKP is flat out racist based on their decisions. I don't have a gore fetish or anything like that, but there are some trademarks of a series that simply should not be played with. Even NGBC has blood. Why change that for a series which was built on it?





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"Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 10:06:post reply

I KNOW the blood was there, I'm not stupid, and they WERE involved in a controversy some time ago, which is why they started to remove blood in the first place (SS 1 was not censored and caused a stink at the time, so they pretty much said "fuck it" from there on out). I also don't think it's appropriate to say the series has "always been dark and gritty", SS 1 and 2 were anything BUT dark and gritty, they were in fact rather silly. It didn't become "Dark and gritty" until 3 and 4, which most people seem to dislike (I like 4, but I'm definately in the minority) and JESUS, accusing somebody of being "Racist" because they take their own market in to account??? What the hell is it with Americans throwing the word "racist" around so goddamn much? Are you saying American companies DON'T take their own market in to account first and foremost? Damn, the X-Box lineup and pretty much any fucking game made by an American company could have damn well fooled me! It never ceases to amaze me how people can legitimize their belief somebody is being "racist" on really outlandish grounds.

Seriously, claiming they're "racist" because they take the blood out of a game IN THEIR OWN FUCKING COUNTRY is one of the most ludicrous things I've ever heard..
and as I said, YOU CAN TURN THE BLOOD BACK ON IN THE FOREIGN VERSIONS, most U.S. AND EUROPEAN ARCADE OWNERS JUST DON'T DO IT. It's the same for Metal Slug.

Edit: I think saying SS was "built on blood" is silly, too... it implies it's some sort of integral part of the game, when it has absolutely no effect on anything whatsoever, with the possible exception of Amakusa Kourin. BESIDES all of this, AGAIN, I wasn't saying you were "wrong" for being disappointed blood was taken out, I was saying you were being retarded for pissing and moaning and using derogatory terminology which if anything only makes you look like a hypocrite when you call Playmore "racist". Pardon my language, but what you're doing is essentially the same as saying something like "THEM THAR CHINKS IS A BUNCHA RACISTS!"





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"Re(2):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 10:21post reply

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I KNOW the blood was there, I'm not stupid, and they WERE involved in a controversy some time ago, which is why they started to remove blood in the first place (SS 1 was not censored and caused a stink at the time, so they pretty much said "fuck it" from there on out). I also don't think it's appropriate to say the series has "always been dark and gritty", SS 1 and 2 were anything BUT dark and gritty, they were in fact rather silly. It didn't become "Dark and gritty" until 3 and 4, which most people seem to dislike (I like 4, but I'm definately in the minority) and JESUS, accusing somebody of being "Racist" because they take their own market in to account??? What the hell is it with Americans throwing the word "racist" around so goddamn much? Are you saying American companies DON'T take their own market in to account first and foremost? Damn, the X-Box lineup and pretty much any fucking game made by an American company could have damn well fooled me! It never ceases to amaze me how people can legitimize their belief somebody is being "racist" on really outlandish grounds.

Seriously, claiming they're "racist" because they take the blood out of a game IN THEIR OWN FUCKING COUNTRY is one of the most ludicrous things I've ever heard..
and as I said, YOU CAN TURN THE BLOOD BACK ON IN THE FOREIGN VERSIONS, most U.S. AND EUROPEAN ARCADE OWNERS JUST DON'T DO IT. It's the same for Metal Slug.



Reason why I was quoting SNKP as racist was because they never gave a shit about any of their outside markets. They only cared about their Japanese market. That makes me wonder why did they create outside markets in the first place? I wasn't calling them racist because they are afraid of adding blood to SS Tenka. For that I just call them chickens. Dip switches alone aren't able to restore the blood to it's rightful red color. Many times it takes a lot more, like changing the bios to Japanese or stuff like that. They WANT to keep the blood and stuff from people outside of Japan.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 10:34:post reply

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Dip switches alone aren't able to restore the blood to it's rightful red color.

Yes, they are. You don't actually need either the unibios or Japanese bios to change the blood colour in most games, this is a common fallacy. You want proof, I'll get my buddy's camera and I'll take a crapload of photos of several Samuspi games running on both the unibios AND the American bios, with red blood in both cases (I still have a flat-out American one slot in addition to a board with the unibios) And again, I challenge you to debate the fact that ANY game company doesn't take their own market in to account first and foremost. GASP! EA GAMES ISN'T MAKING A GERMAN LANGUAGE VERSION OF MADDEN WHATEVER THE HELL IS OUT NOW AND THEY AREN'T INSERTING THINGS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO GERMAN CULTURE! RACIST PIGS! I also don't exactly see them removing the cheerleaders for markets which don't approve of that sort of thing.(Oh, and saying they didn't do anything for their foreign markets is silly, they actually try to cater to South American markets pretty well, even going so far as to pressuring Data East to record some allegedly "Spanish" voices for the Euro/SA version of MD 3, amongst other things.)

Edit: I feel REALLY awkward defending a company about which I regularly think "They'd be better off dead", but some of the stuff you're saying is so outlandish I can't help it.





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"Re(4):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 10:45post reply

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Dip switches alone aren't able to restore the blood to it's rightful red color.
Yes, they are. You don't actually need either the unibios or Japanese bios to change the blood colour in most games, this is a common fallacy. And again, I challenge you to debate the fact that ANY game company doesn't take their own market in to account first and foremost (and saying they didn't do anything for their foreign markets is silly, they actually try to cater to South American markets pretty well, even going so far as to pressuring Data East to record some allegedly "Spanish" voices for the Euro/SA version of MD 3, amongst other things.)



Of course, not all game companies are that self centered to their home market. It's understandable that Japan is SNK's home market, so they are given first priority. I wish they could give that same dedication to those outside the Japan community though. Why don't we ever get a chance to help out with loketests for a game as big as this? I'd surely buy a SS Tenka console port when it comes out, but I'll be upset that we don't get blood for a reason outside of our own culture. They try to keep blood, "guts", and bounce from us using every method possible.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 10:48:post reply

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They try to keep blood, "guts", and bounce from us using every method possible.

You can turn the bounce back on, too. And try to realize America isn't the ONLY foreign market for these games, many of the changes made make the games much more acceptable in many other countries. Don't forget the MVS is (well, at least was at one point) the most widely distributed arcade hardware in the world. It's silly to accuse somebody of being "racist" when they're trying to avoid controversy. Obviously people don't care as much now (at least in the U.S., although there is still cringing and whining about violence in games every day here, too) but in many other places it's even more controversial.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 10:48post reply

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I wish they could give that same dedication to those outside the Japan community though. Why don't we ever get a chance to help out with loketests for a game as big as this?


Bcuz the only kind of responses they'll get if they loketests outside of Japan is,

"Where's the blood!!!!"
"Why no fatalities!!!!!!"
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"Re(6):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 10:52:post reply

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"Where's the blood!!!!"
"Why no fatalities!!!!!!"
etc

Yep, their priorities are RIGHT on what counts!

One could also ask why don't the Japanese get included (or weren't included, to be proper) in tests for games like MK 4 or gems like "Target Terror"? Is it perhaps because Midway and Raw Thrills don't give a fuck about what they think because they aren't the target audience? Gasp, PERISH the thought!





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"Re(6):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 11:06post reply

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You can turn the bounce back on, too. And try to realize America isn't the ONLY foreign market for these games, many of the changes made make the games much more acceptable in many other countries. Don't forget the MVS is (well, at least was at one point) the most widely distributed arcade hardware in the world. It's silly to accuse somebody of being "racist" when they're trying to avoid controversy. Obviously people don't care as much now (at least in the U.S., although there is still cringing and whining about violence in games every day here, too) but in many other places it's even more controversial.



Well, they try to be overprotective. Do you think a little blood is going to get them sued by an american family? No! Most people are mature enough to know this stuff ain't real and they're certainly not going to take swords and cut everyone they see just because they split someone in half in SS5 Special. Imoya's gotta grow up. There were similar incidents back in 97 and such and that didn't make them change the fatalities in the SS64 series. The SS series was always for those of an older audience, and it upsets me that they're trying to dedicate this next game to a much younger audience. There are other series that do that. Not only do they try to keep the blood and bounce away from us, they also have bad localization. The english voices in MD2 were pretty bad, and most of their english releases were horribly translated.

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Bcuz the only kind of responses they'll get if they loketests outside of Japan is,

"Where's the blood!!!!"
"Why no fatalities!!!!!!"
etc



I doubt that. I heard we even got a loketest of SVC Chaos. I admit Imoya is getting better when it comes to outside markets, but they gotta do better.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 11:09:post reply

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Why don't we ever get a chance to help out with loketests for a game as big as this?


The thing is, this game ISN'T that big. Yes, it's on Atomiswave, but Samurai Spirits fans, even in Japan, aren't THAT widespread. It's a game with a relatively small but devoted following. It doesn't get nearly the attention that "big" games like KOF do from Imoya.

Why else would they let such a small team like Yuki work on a sequel? They probably figured if the game sucked, it wouldn't be a big deal. It wouldn't make huge waves if it was great either. Fortunately, Yuki did well, but it didn't make the series that much more popular. I think you're making this whole situation out to be far more drastic than it is. It's just one game, ferchrissakes.

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Not only do they try to keep the blood and bounce away from us, they also have bad localization. The english voices in MD2 were pretty bad, and most of their english releases were horribly translated.


Okay, this was just ridiculous. If you hate how they handle domestic release of their games, here's an idea: DON'T PLAY THEM! Despite all of the perceived problems you find with these games (which still don't make them any less fun to play), you're still probably going to play them.





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"Re(6):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 11:17:post reply

Yes, as Nate said, not only is it not that big a game, Playmore isn't exactly a wealthy company and 2D fighters are a virtually dead genre, anyway. There are still fans obviously, but we are NOT where the money is... I wouldn't expect any company that will probably be dead again in another three or four years (and probably knows it) to go through a lot of effort to set up tests in a foreign country where the market is questionable.





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"Re(7):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 12:11post reply

First off Nate, how do you know Yuki made this game yet? Nobody knows, so we can't jump to conclusions yet.

Perhaps the target audience for this game is rather small, but I thought SS was an extremely popular series in Japan. Why else did it get all these exclusive releases and dedications and such? As for the game itself this looks to be the biggest SS game ever made. 42-46 characters being able to play on a system from SS2-SS5 and 2 original gameplay modes. The lack of blood is the ONLY thing that fucks up the game now. Why can't they put such a simple thing in?!

I apologize for the sudden rant, but you can see how upset I am that a cultural thing is being used as an excuse to kill off one of the trademarks of my favorite series.





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"Re(8):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 14:13post reply

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Do you think a little blood is going to get them sued by an american family? No! Most people are mature enough to know this stuff ain't real and they're certainly not going to take swords and cut everyone they see just because they split someone in half in SS5 Special. Imoya's gotta grow up.
Dude, if you seriously think this, then it's pretty obvious- you're are not from nor have ever spent any time in America. That's all you ever see in the media about video games is bitching and moaning about evil mean old violent video games that make perfectly nice and innocent children go mad and eat babies and stab old women in their sleep.

Anyway, I agree with being upset that the blood's being left out because I also feel that it's a big part of the game's style. The blood spray gave it that classic stage sword fight feel to it or however you want to describe it... of course it's not a game mechanic or anything, but I think it had a definite part of the game's style. Now that being said, your reasoning behind this little conspiracy theory fantasy world is totally wrong. And again, it goes back to what I was throwing a fit about in that other thread- people get on their Jump to Conclusions Mat as fast as possible and start throwing a million race cards for any and every reason. It's bullshit. It's lame that the blood's not in this SS, but it's definitely not because the Japanese think they're the master race and are keeping all the blood for themselves. It has nothing to do with racism and that's that. And those comments whining about them taking their own market first and foremost is insane. What company EVER doesn't take its home market at top priority? On rare occasions, we'll get lucky and get a DOA or an MGS before the Japanese market simply because we liked the game more than they did. But you can't act like American companies, European companies, Japanese companies, and so on and so on don't make sure their key home market in their own culture's going to get the game first and adapt it closely to their tastes first before caring what the rest of the world's gonna want. That's the way businesses work. If they're some giganticon monster company, THEN they MIGHT take care of all markets at once, but companies as small as SNK Playmore aren't capable of doing that.

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"Re(8):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 14:47post reply

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First off Nate, how do you know Yuki made this game yet? Nobody knows, so we can't jump to conclusions yet.


I didn't say they did. I was making reference to SS0/V and SS0S.

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Perhaps the target audience for this game is rather small, but I thought SS was an extremely popular series in Japan. Why else did it get all these exclusive releases and dedications and such? As for the game itself this looks to be the biggest SS game ever made. 42-46 characters being able to play on a system from SS2-SS5 and 2 original gameplay modes. The lack of blood is the ONLY thing that fucks up the game now. Why can't they put such a simple thing in?!


I think the better question is why you continue to rant over such a "simple thing" being left out, dude. It's a visual element and it's not going to make the game play any better or worse.





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"Re(9):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 14:57:post reply

I was born and currently live in America. Every time I hear a story such as this where they place the blame on a game such as GTA 3 or something like that I get irrirated. These kids have a mental problem their parents were not aware of, or they were simply not monitored properly and let their children get this stuff in the first place.

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It's lame that the blood's not in this SS, but it's definitely not because the Japanese think they're the master race and are keeping all the blood for themselves.



That was why blood was censored in almost all SS AES releases. They thought we couldn't handle it. This goes for all SS console ports as well. Nowadays, since SS0 Special, Imoya developed hemophobia, and are dedicating themselves to be anti-violent with a series that was MEANT to be violent.

Refer to my earlier statement. I know most Japanese based companies put their own country first. I am aware of how it works.





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That was why blood was censored in almost all SS AES releases. They thought we couldn't handle it.


So you know what they were thinking, huh? What are you, "Mr. Psychic"? You have some kind of deep, unique understanding of how those MYSTERIOUS, CRAZY JAPANESE think? OH, they're so DIFFERENT from everyone else on the face of the Earth! What the hell are they up to, some kind of massive conspiracy to keep PRECIOUS BLOOD away from THE ROUND-EYES so they can somehow bomb Pearl Harbor again? Jesus Christ, I can't believe you're STILL insisting there is some kind of plot involved in their decision making. Some people have truly bizarre persecution complexes.
They don't give three shakes of a rat's ass whether anybody could "handle" it or not, they stopped because they were involved in a controversy over SS 1 and because IF YOU REMEMBER, there was a VERY BIG controversy in general about violence in games around that time period, and they DIDN'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN ANY CONTROVERSIES, they had enough problems as it was. It was probably all a feeble attempt to make their games more accessible to the family market simply BECAUSE there was the whole "Boycott MK!!" movement at the time. Nobody cares anymore so they don't necessarily need to continue, but old habits die hard and their American market is negligable anyway. Besides all this, you act like the blood is some kind of precious treasure, it's like you're a cokehead and they're keeping your stash away from you.
Also, the home cart system was designed as a rental system, and beings that 90% of its use would be by parents renting the system for little kids at parties, I can completely understand their original logic here for not including dip access on said system. They don't also "PLAN" on having the home carts censored (I'm sure in your mind they'd be thinking something like "MU HU HA HA HA HA! THOSE AMERICANS SHALL SUFFER, FOR THEY CANNOT SEE THE RED LIQUID THEY SO LOVE!"), the home carts are literally exactly the same as the arcade data, just in a slightly different format; they literally do zero work in terms of porting (Home carts can work on MVS systems and vice versa, if you have a converter) and on making changes in 99.9% of cases (SS0S being one of the only exceptions, and they went back and UNDID that because FANS COMPLAINED). It just defaults to the standard American settings, there just are no dips you can access to turn stuff back on (so curious kiddy's eyes won't be tainted by THE HORROR)

Edit: Oh, and for it being one of your favorite fighting series.. Christ, I'm sure a fair number of members here could point out it IS my favorite, but I'm not a quarter as upset as you are. I'm a little disappointed, but I can deal with it and I'm CERTAINLY not going to go flying off the deep end with bizarre racist conspiracy theories.





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Oh, he WAS serious.
Wao.
One more moron to ignore.

I think this thread is dead. I can't think of anything to say to save it, beside...
For example, I've had more heterosexual sex in the last 18 hours then in the 26 years before (my hate for the Gay Pride always has weird side-effects on me). I also had sex with a guy with SF3 Yang's exact hairstyle, and I'm still surprised my eyes haven't been teared out of my skull by all those spikes. There ARE people who buy those manga hair Garnier things.





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"Re(2):Re(10):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 26 Jun 22:07post reply

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Also, the home cart system was designed as a rental system, and beings that 90% of its use would be by parents renting the system for little kids at parties, I can completely understand their original logic here for not including dip access on said system. They don't also "PLAN" on having the home carts censored (I'm sure in your mind they'd be thinking something like "MU HU HA HA HA HA! THOSE AMERICANS SHALL SUFFER, FOR THEY CANNOT SEE THE RED LIQUID THEY SO LOVE!"), the home carts are literally exactly the same as the arcade data, just in a slightly different format; they literally do zero work in terms of porting (Home carts can work on MVS systems and vice versa, if you have a converter) and on making changes in 99.9% of cases (SS0S being one of the only exceptions, and they went back and UNDID that because FANS COMPLAINED). It just defaults to the standard American settings, there just are no dips you can access to turn stuff back on (so curious kiddy's eyes won't be tainted by THE HORROR)

Edit: Oh, and for it being one of your favorite fighting series.. Christ, I'm sure a fair number of members here could point out it IS my favorite, but I'm not a quarter as upset as you are. I'm a little disappointed, but I can deal with it and I'm CERTAINLY not going to go flying off the deep end with bizarre racist conspiracy theories.



You're just blowing things way out of proportion now. First off, I'm not a fucking psychic. I don't consider blood a treasure, nor is it precious, but there are simply some things that must not be tampered with. In case you haven't noticed, SS Tenka is a compilation of all previous SS games, EACH of which had blood. Why didn't they put it in here? Cause it's a matsuri festival. I think that's complete BULLSHIT. For a series that is built on blood, I don't see any reason why they would not put a little blood back in. Even NGBC has blood for Christ's sake. I still cannot see a SS game without any blood.

I doubt SNK is THAT deliberate on keeping that stuff from us, but they do it. Only God knows why they consistently censor and fuck up our games. It does SEEM like there's some kind of conspiracy to keep this stuff from us. BTW, you gotta have some controversy to succeed. Why else would MK and GTA become so popular here?





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"Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Mon 27 Jun 01:57:post reply

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I doubt SNK is THAT deliberate on keeping that stuff from us, but they do it. Only God knows why they consistently censor and fuck up our games. It does SEEM like there's some kind of conspiracy to keep this stuff from us. BTW, you gotta have some controversy to succeed. Why else would MK and GTA become so popular here?

Whatever, I'm not going to argue this point anymore because you are obviously incapable of accepting reality. Go ahead back to your world of JFK assassinations, Area 51's and fluoridation theories. Besides, I haven't played them, but aren't the ports of KOF 2002/2003 NOT censored? And come to think of it, why in God's name did a game having the blood removed in it FOR THE JAPANESE VERSION set you off on some kind of "OMG TEH CRAZY FOREIGNERS HATES US!" tangent? Seems to me that if they're removing the blood period, it kind of causes serious damage to your CONSPIRACY THEORY. "Even we Japanese can't handle THE BLOOD anymore, it's too X-TREME!"
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Why else would MK and GTA become so popular here?
For the same reason Madden games are so successful here, they appeal to the American gamer (one of the reasons these series are equally unpopular in many other countries, although GTA manages to piss people off wherever it goes) But then again, I'm just being polite here, I was very tempted to say "Because the mass market has poor taste." Besides, last time I checked, MK was about as popular as any other fighting series with its roots in 2D: Not very, except with a small, hard-core fanbase.
And if your theory about controversy being necessary to succeed is true, why were Super Mario Bros, Donkey Kong and Final Fantasy 7 and countless others so successful? Where's all this magical controversy around them? TONIGHT ON NIGHTLINE: THE MUSHROOM KINGDOM! COMMUNIST PLOT? House Speaker Tip O'Neal and Prime Minster Margaret Thatcher join us for the debate. Besides all of this, there are plenty of controversial games that flop horribly; "Chiller", "Splatterhouse" (a success at the time, but forgotten today) and "Thrill Kill" (cancelled) are all perfectly fine examples. Oh, what about "Postal"? Anyway, that's it, after all this it's obvious nobody here is going to make you NOT think there's some kind of conspiracy, but I'll leave you with this question: Who's the one who is being "racist" here? I don't see Playmore flying off the deep end and putting messages like "We hate crackers!" in their products, while I certainly got a heavy "dirty Jap" vibe from you.

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"Re(4):Re(10):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Mon 27 Jun 02:16post reply

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Why else would MK and GTA become so popular here? Low average IQ.

I think someone here didn't mention that once-in-a-lifetime videogaming masterpiece that is Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas.If you do know this and if you have it, you definitely should know how unique this is.Easily the best current generation game and one of the best videogames ever.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Mon 27 Jun 02:34post reply

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Why else would MK and GTA become so popular here? Low average IQ.
I think someone here didn't mention that once-in-a-lifetime videogaming masterpiece that is Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas.If you do know this and if you have it, you definitely should know how unique this is.Easily the best current generation game and one of the best videogames ever.

I am laughing so hard right now.





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"Re(4):Re(10):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Mon 27 Jun 03:31post reply

As I said, SNKP is getting better when it comes to localization, but they still need to work on it.

I think the reason they're not putting blood in SS Tenka is simple, they're too chickenshit to do it. SS0 Special's censorship scandal seems to have made them develop a case of hemophobia and with that, they're simply afraid of putting blood into a new SS game. This is NOT linked to the conspiracy theory of their past links with America.

If there's controversy, there's attention devoted to it, and people get interested, and it grows the audience. Simple stuff.

The JFK games and stuff are just stupid. No one likes them because they mock real life events. I don't play em.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Mon 27 Jun 06:30post reply

I think you're blowing the no blood issue way out of proportion now





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"Re(5):Re(10):Re(10):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Mon 27 Jun 06:30post reply

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"Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 07:47post reply

Man, this racism is too racist. I'm not going to bother arguing anymore.

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Ohhh, man! I forgot all about that... I was so looking forward to it back then. I was pretty disappointed when it was cancelled... I heard the engine didn't go to waste, though- it was used in that Wu-Tang fighting game that came out a year or so later.





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"Re(1):Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 08:00post reply

Hey, I'm sick of arguing myself.

Doesn't it seem to you there's an obvious reason why they're doing this? I mean, even NGBC has blood.





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"Re(2):Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 08:09post reply

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Hey, I'm sick of arguing myself.

Doesn't it seem to you there's an obvious reason why they're doing this? I mean, even NGBC has blood.


Be that as it may, will the game play any better or worse because of the lack of blood?

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"Re(2):Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 08:19:post reply

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Doesn't it seem to you there's an obvious reason why they're doing this? I mean, even NGBC has blood.

Doesn't it seem to you that your obsession over blood in a video game is A.) creepy and B.) silly, as is the fact that you jump right from "blood isn't in the game" to "racism!!!!!" Saying "Poo, there isn't blood in this.. I'm upset!" or "I wish SNK/Playmore would get with the times, the chances of them getting in trouble again these days is miniscule." would have sufficed, but apparently the fact that they aren't of your ethnic group is a major factor. Never underestimate the power of certain people who have no actual logic to back up their feelings to pull race in to it to try and make it an emotional argument. It's silly, it's tired, it's been done, and it all you have managed to do is make yourself look silly. I'll say this though; you HAVE convinced me that blood being in this game is far more important than the actual game itself is to you.

Also, as you love to say, "EVEN NGBC has blood!" Oooooh, WOW! BLOOD?? MAN, THAT'S JUST.. SO COOL! It will surely make the game 10,000 times better. All that the fact that game has blood in it goes to show is that they're serious about this being a "matsuri" game and your precious, precious red stuff is perfectly likely to come back when they make a SS game which isn't a party game. You have demonstrated the ability to tactically ignore 90% of stuff people say to you and blindly repeat the same concept over and over with no logic whatsoever to back it up other than "it's not there! It's obviously RACIST!" Hey, now I'm going to be Abster and get offended at something absolutely retarded! MK's Liu-Kang and "Rayden"(sic) are offensive and Midway's incapability of having an Asian person be Sub-Zero (who is allegedly a "Chinese Ninja", go figure) is racist! Oh MAN, an American game with RACISM IN IT? But.. NO AMERICANS are RACIST! That's IMPOSSIBLE! There are CERTAINLY no Americans who look down on other ethnic groups, ESPECIALLY not Latinos or the French, Americans just WORSHIP them. How DARE they not make localizations to their games and movies that are pertinent to me and/or my ethnic group! Why the hell do you think Americans do things like shrink Lindsay Lohan's boobs in "Herbie" and stick crappy bikinis on covers of Nintendo DS games? Oooh, maybe is it.. so as not to OFFEND overly-sensitive people, who are found in abundance here? Ooooh, but wait! Maybe we're ALL JAPANESE and are PART OF THE CONSPIRACY... We're out to geeeeet yooooou! WooooooooOOOoooo! WOOOOOOO! < (ghost sounds)
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"Re(3):Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 08:53post reply

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Doesn't it seem to you there's an obvious reason why they're doing this? I mean, even NGBC has blood.
Doesn't it seem to you that your obsession over blood in a video game is A.) creepy and B.) silly, as is the fact that you jump right from "blood isn't in the game" to "racism!!!!!" Saying "Poo, there isn't blood in this.. I'm upset!" or "I wish SNK/Playmore would get with the times, the chances of them getting in trouble again these days is miniscule." would have sufficed, but apparently the fact that they aren't of your ethnic group is a major factor. Never underestimate the power of certain people who have no actual logic to back up their feelings to pull race in to it to try and make it an emotional argument. It's silly, it's tired, it's been done, and it all you have managed to do is make yourself look silly. I'll say this though; you HAVE convinced me that blood being in this game is far more important than the actual game itself is to you.

Also, as you love to say, "EVEN NGBC has blood!" Oooooh, WOW! BLOOD?? MAN, THAT'S JUST.. SO COOL! It will surely make the game 10,000 times better. All that the fact that game has blood in it goes to show is that they're serious about this being a "matsuri" game and your precious, precious red stuff is perfectly likely to come back when they make a SS game which isn't a party game. You have demonstrated the ability to tactically ignore 90% of stuff people say to you and blindly repeat the same concept over and over with no logic whatsoever to back it up other than "it's not there! It's obviously RACIST!" Hey, now I'm going to be Abster and get offended at something absolutely retarded! MK's Liu-Kang and "Rayden"(sic) are offensive and Midway's incapability of having an Asian person be Sub-Zero (who is allegedly a "Chinese Ninja", go figure) is racist! Oh MAN, an American game with RACISM IN IT? But.. NO AMERICANS are RACIST! That's IMPOSSIBLE! There are CERTAINLY no Americans who look down on other ethnic groups, ESPECIALLY not Latinos or the French, Americans just WORSHIP them. How DARE they not make localizations to their games and movies that are pertinent to me and/or my ethnic group! Why the hell do you think Americans do things like shrink Lindsay Lohan's boobs in "Herbie" and stick crappy bikinis on covers of Nintendo DS games? Oooh, maybe is it.. so as not to OFFEND overly-sensitive people, who are found in abundance here? Ooooh, but wait! Maybe we're ALL JAPANESE and are PART OF THE CONSPIRACY... We're out to geeeeet yooooou! WooooooooOOOoooo! WOOOOOOO! < (ghost sounds)
Please, just shut up and go away; you're giving us all a headache.



Falcon, shut the fuck up. I respect the Japanese culture and its people. The ONLY people I dislike out of everyone down there is SNK Playmore. I think that after SS0 Special, there is absolutely NO chance that blood will ever appear in a SS game again, period. Plus, who was the one that said that they never intended to put blood in this game when everyone said they would in a later build? Me! This matsuri stuff is bullshit. They can keep the setting but put the goddamn blood back in. It's such a simple thing. People like YOU have to make it overly complex.





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"Re(4):Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 09:18:post reply

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People like YOU have to make it overly complex.

I'm not the one who claimed they base their decisions on racist philosophy, now am I? People like YOU have to go and resort to simplified idiotic explanations instead of actually applying any rational thought about business practices and public perceptions of an entertainment medium! I guess it's simpler just to scream "RACIST" instead of actually thinking, though. Also, as I pointed out earlier, they restored the silly fatalities to the home cart version of SS0S after fan feedback.

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"Re(4):Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 09:18post reply

I like the blood in these games too. I am actually quite curious about the choice to censor it. I don't care that much; the gameplay won't really be affected by it...

I could say that recent arcade games are less bloody though. It's funny though, when you see 'Wartime Troopers' in the gamecenters, and you have an incredible amount of shooting and killing with huge m16 looking guns... I still don't remember seeing blood in that game either...

I just hope they make a good game. I've been playing Supisupi on an Emulator with my friend recently... I really wish I could buy it for my PS2, but all that's out is the unbalanced original version....





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"Re(5):Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 09:21:post reply

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I like the blood in these games too. I am actually quite curious about the choice to censor it. I don't care that much; the gameplay won't really be affected by it...

Wow, a CONSTRUCTIVE way of putting it! Somebody else here could certainly learn from you. Anyway, yes, there's been a definate trend in violence reduction in general in the field of arcade games. Frankly, the Japanese market is changing.

Edit: Yeah, now that I think about it, the advent of Bemani games has really changed the Japanese arcade scene pretty permanently. There seems to be a revival of classic arcade gaming going on there too, though; Sabo10 mentioned to me they have a number of classic cabs at the arcade he frequents (Including Argos!! YES!)

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"Re(5):Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 09:37post reply

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I'm not the one who claimed they base their decisions on racist philosophy, now am I? People like YOU have to go and resort to simplified idiotic explanations instead of actually applying any rational thought about business practices and public perceptions of an entertainment medium! I guess it's simpler just to scream "RACIST" instead of actually thinking, though. Also, as I pointed out earlier, they restored the silly fatalities to the home cart version of SS0S after fan feedback.

Edit: Or are you not familiar with the cart recall?



I'm only saying they are acting in a racist manner to their non-Japanese audience. Since you think you know SNKP inside and out, explain to me why SNKP treats the American audience as they do by cutting many story details out as well as censor all the stuff that may cause controversy our of all our arcade games and nearly all of our console ports.

It is true the Zetsumei Ougis were restored to AES SS0S, BUT NOT the full uncensored ones. They were watered down, and generic fatalities were still missing. They did not give the fans what they screwed them out of in the first place. In fact, they wanted to make it so they COULDN'T restore the full uncensored fatalities in the first place. Compare a fixed to an unfixed SS0S and you'll see what I mean.





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"Re(6):Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 09:47:post reply

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I'm not the one who claimed they base their decisions on racist philosophy, now am I? People like YOU have to go and resort to simplified idiotic explanations instead of actually applying any rational thought about business practices and public perceptions of an entertainment medium! I guess it's simpler just to scream "RACIST" instead of actually thinking, though. Also, as I pointed out earlier, they restored the silly fatalities to the home cart version of SS0S after fan feedback.

Edit: Or are you not familiar with the cart recall?


I'm only saying they are acting in a racist manner to their non-Japanese audience. Since you think you know SNKP inside and out, explain to me why SNKP treats the American audience as they do by cutting many story details out as well as censor all the stuff that may cause controversy our of all our arcade games and nearly all of our console ports.
You answered your own question right there. And again, YOU CAN RESTORE THEM IN THE ARCADE VERSIONS. And they don't CUT story details, fact is they probably have 0% English capabilties and limited budgets, so they aren't going to go out of their way to support a market which makes virtually no money. How do translations turn out on ANY game from a company with a miniscule budget? It either doesn't happen, or it's piss poor. This isn't Capcom we're talking about here, who has a lot of money to throw around and a solid market in the U.S. One might ask why Konami barely put any work in to any of their ports of Goemon games or why Namco still hasn't released half of their Tales games or put 0 work in to the translation of Valkyrie no Densetsu on that PS 1 collection. Hell, one might ask why any changes are made to ANY video games at all? I love Contra and the Euro-version is butchered, but why is this? BECAUSE THEY WANT TO AVOID TROUBLE. I've said UMPTEEN times now that they don't need to do this anymore, nobody cares, but the American market for their games is so limited AND they're still thinking in terms of the early 90's, which is yet another one of the reasons they'll probably go out of business again in several years. Be happy they make the effort to put these games out in the U.S. at all, they probably lose money every time (they sure did on KOF MI) You seem to have this bizarre belief that America is a major market that they should waste massive amounts of money on, when they learned long ago they have virtually no hope of breaking in to the American market. Their games just don't appeal to 95% of gamers here. I don't even know why I'm typing this, you're clearly impervious to reason. I've had it, this is a waste of effort and I'd rather be playing SRW 64.

Edit: Typo. Also, if you are capable of recognizing the fact Americans make a big stink about retarded stuff as you seemed to imply a long time ago, why is this even a mystery to you? There WAS a stink made over SS1, and it burned them and they've never changed their policy back. I figured I'd at least make one of my points more concise: Bottom line, if they don't think many people will buy it, they aren't going to waste any money on the localization. ALL companies do this.





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"Re(7):Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 09:59post reply

Hello ?
I'm talking about me having sex with various people of the opposite gender, and you're continuing to argue about videogames ?
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"Re(4):Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 10:06post reply

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Falcon, shut the fuck up. I respect the Japanese culture and its people. The ONLY people I dislike out of everyone down there is SNK Playmore.


Right.....
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Well, since that's the case, they are too scared to change their policy. They refuse to grow up and quit living in the 90s. This practice makes me sick, and if I could do something about it, I would. They need to take a chance and quit chickening out. If they did, maybe they might succeed in their American market for once. There are those companies that actually refuse to censor their games for outside audiences. Those people are sophisticated. Don't give me this shit about not cutting story details out. KOF MI had several missing storyline details in the english version. SS5's storyline wasn't even translated! The story mode would only come in the upcoming console version, and who knows in what ways they'll try making it "kid friendly"? I bet that Rasetsumaru will NOT be beheaded in his ending.





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"Re(5):Jump to Conclusions Mat" , posted Mon 27 Jun 10:10post reply

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Right.....
that's why you called us Piss scared Japs?



I was referring to PLAYMORE, not people like you.





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"This thread is a BLOOD BATH [rimshot]" , posted Mon 27 Jun 10:39post reply

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Well, since that's the case, they are too scared to change their policy. They refuse to grow up and quit living in the 90s. This practice makes me sick, and if I could do something about it, I would. They need to take a chance and quit chickening out. If they did, maybe they might succeed in their American market for once. There are those companies that actually refuse to censor their games for outside audiences. Those people are sophisticated. Don't give me this shit about not cutting story details out. KOF MI had several missing storyline details in the english version. SS5's storyline wasn't even translated! The story mode would only come in the upcoming console version, and who knows in what ways they'll try making it "kid friendly"? I bet that Rasetsumaru will NOT be beheaded in his ending.

Dude, you're still not listening- they don't have the budget to get high quality translations. They're a shaky little company, and they're not about to waste money on getting really coherent translations for an American audience that'll sell, like, 10 copies of the game.

Again, leaving the blood out totally is very lame, and it sucks that they don't have some option in the main menu to turn it back on, but chalking their leaving the blood out to racism is just insane. Hearing stuff like that is seriously like hearing someone try to tell you that there was no moon landing. That's all I'm going to say about that. I do think they called it a matsuri festival as a CYA for there not being any blood, but it's really easy to see that they were worried about pissing off soccer moms everywhere by including blood. Again, I think the solution would be to have a protected option to turn it off or something, but I guess they figured parents wouldn't bother figuring out how to turn it off... which isn't that outlandish, either. Anyway, I'm done.





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"Re(1):This thread is a BLOOD BATH [rimshot]" , posted Mon 27 Jun 11:11post reply

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Dude, you're still not listening- they don't have the budget to get high quality translations. They're a shaky little company, and they're not about to waste money on getting really coherent translations for an American audience that'll sell, like, 10 copies of the game.



You're meaning to say the money and budget is the only reason why we aren't getting good quality translations? That is one thing but there's gotta be more to it.

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Again, leaving the blood out totally is very lame, and it sucks that they don't have some option in the main menu to turn it back on, but chalking their leaving the blood out to racism is just insane. Hearing stuff like that is seriously like hearing someone try to tell you that there was no moon landing. That's all I'm going to say about that. I do think they called it a matsuri festival as a CYA for there not being any blood, but it's really easy to see that they were worried about pissing off soccer moms everywhere by including blood. Again, I think the solution would be to have a protected option to turn it off or something, but I guess they figured parents wouldn't bother figuring out how to turn it off... which isn't that outlandish, either. Anyway, I'm done.



You're onto something, but let me reinterate that the lack of SS Tenka's blood has nothing to do with racism. I didn't intend to put it in that kind of matter. I suddenly began to rant about this knowing the ways they've been treating us since 93.

The perfect solution, include an option to turn it on or off, much like the items. It's simple stuff! That will please what little fans they have and not draw fire from people who don't want to leave certain traditions.





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"Re(2):This thread is a BLOOD BATH [rimshot]" , posted Mon 27 Jun 11:29:post reply

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You're meaning to say the money and budget is the only reason why we aren't getting good quality translations?

This is what I've been saying the WHOLE FUCKING TIME. They don't put EFFORT in to that for the American market because they LOSE MONEY EVERY TIME THEY TRY AND SELL ANYTHING HERE, be it the NGP or any port of any game.

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That is one thing but there's gotta be more to it.

Why? AGAIN, I HAVE POINTED OUT THAT BAD TRANSLATIONS COMING FROM POOR COMPANIES IS COMMON PLACE. IT IS THE STANDARD. HELL, PLAY ANY GAME BEFORE GAMES GOT "BIG", GO BACK TO SUPER NINTENDO FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. YOU WILL SEE POOR TRANSLATIONS, ABSENT TRANSLATIONS, AND MISTAKES RUNNING WILD. THEY DID NOT HAVE THE MONEY IN THOSE DAYS, THE MARKET WAS NOT WHAT IT IS TODAY. PLAYMORE IS PART OF THIS OLD GENERATION. They are barely clinging to life and their games are HORRIBLY dated. They're like a more successful Mitchell Japan, who ALSO makes good games (OSMAAAN!) which get piss poor translation work because they literally work out of a basement and have 0 money to waste. CAN I SPELL IT OUT ANY MORE SIMPLY FOR YOU? DUH DUH DUUUUUH

Also, what you said to Saiki is akin to yelling at a black man across the street from you "Damn n*****!" And then turning to the black man standing next to you and saying "Oh, I didn't mean you." It's offensive, and that's what this whole argument has been ABOUT, not blood or any shit like that; it was about your use of racial epithets WAAY back in your original rant.

Edit: And FINAL point, a big part of this seems to be that you believe if they started to waste money doing good translations of these, their games would magically start to sell better. I'm sorry, but I don't think so. These games are not what Americans like to play or buy. This is the general response to their games, regardless of how much time they spent translating it, etc: "THIS AINT MADIN OR XBOX. FUKK IT" Regardless of what you say about "KEEPIN STUFFZ" from us in KOF MI, they put a lot of money in to trying to present it to the American audience, paying awful VAs to do English voices and even going so far as to run commercials and pay for adds on WWE. The game was a massive bomb here, so I don't expect to see them take a risk like that again (and this is a prime example of why they don't bother with this shit in the first place) KOF MI didn't bomb in the U.S. because they "held back", it bombed because Americans don't give shit about KOF or SNK. My devil trigger has run out now, I'm tired.





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"Re(3):This thread is a BLOOD BATH [rimshot]" , posted Mon 27 Jun 12:12post reply

Uh, if it wasn't for Aruze, the NGPC would've given the Game Boy a run for its money. It was getting pretty popular in the states from what I heard.

Could you perhaps ignite your flamable attitude just a bit longer? It's starting to make me laugh considering I haven't blown up yet. How many damn times have I stated the racist statement was NOT for Japanese people in general, just for SNK? You're blowing this way out of proportion, at the same time continuing to kiss SNKP's ass. They were clinging onto their old hardware, but have moved onto newer and better stuff.

Now answer this, if SNK had little audience, then why were their arcades so popular back then? We're not talking just the Japanese audience here we're talking worldwide. Also, SCEA forced Playmore to put english voices into Impact simply for them to approve it.

Get rid of the racist accusations and go back to the debate at hand, the lack of blood in SS Tenka.





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"Re(4):This thread is a BLOOD BATH [rimshot]" , posted Mon 27 Jun 12:25post reply

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How many damn times have I stated the racist statement was NOT for Japanese people in general, just for SNK? You're blowing this way out of proportion, at the same time continuing to kiss SNKP's ass. They were clinging onto their old hardware, but have moved onto newer and better stuff.


You should of said,
"piss scared SNKP ppl"

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"Re(5):This thread is a BLOOD BATH [rimshot]" , posted Mon 27 Jun 13:09post reply

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You should of said,
"piss scared SNKP ppl"

instead of

"Piss scared Japs"



I am quite sorry for being that blunt, and for that I apologize.

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Now calm down and smoke the pipe of peace or something. Adding opium helps.



Just like that Caffeine Nicotine guy in Samurai Showdown!! I'm on topic!! =)

Racism is bad... those damned Playmore racists... they are holding back all that content because they obviously think stupid Americans like us can't appreciate the Japanese historical 'cutting the head off our opponent' technique forged in the fires of war many moons ago. (笑)

I wish these games were at least a little more popular though, it might inspire more action on Playmore's part to do better ports.





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"Re(4):This thread is a BLOOD BATH [rimshot]" , posted Mon 27 Jun 15:35post reply

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Get rid of the racist accusations and go back to the debate at hand, the lack of blood in SS Tenka.

C'mon, man... unless you have a little brother logging on and posting things in your name, you were the one that started the racism accusations. I'm totally fine with you dropping that line of argument, but don't act like you didn't start it. The "issue at hand" / the lack of blood was, as you said much earlier, a result of Japanese racism. If you've changed your mind and don't think that way any more, that's perfectly fine and no one will rub your nose in it (at least I won't), but again, don't act like you weren't just arguing that back in your earlier posts.





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"Re(5):This thread is a BLOOD BATH [rimshot]" , posted Mon 27 Jun 15:43post reply

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Get rid of the racist accusations and go back to the debate at hand, the lack of blood in SS Tenka.
C'mon, man... unless you have a little brother logging on and posting things in your name, you were the one that started the racism accusations. I'm totally fine with you dropping that line of argument, but don't act like you didn't start it. The "issue at hand" / the lack of blood was, as you said much earlier, a result of Japanese racism. If you've changed your mind and don't think that way any more, that's perfectly fine and no one will rub your nose in it (at least I won't), but again, don't act like you weren't just arguing that back in your earlier posts.



At least I'm gull enough to admit doing wrong. I just feel that way about SNKP sometimes you know? The lack of blood wasn't a result of SNKP's racism. They don't feel like putting it in, and that what I want to debate about. How and why did they decide to do this? What can we do to ensure all their customers are happy with this game? Of course no game is perfect but still, I want to find a way to convince them somehow to at least consider putting a blood option in. Going to their website and posting the request in their loke test form a buncha times doesn't help. Besides, chances are they'd refuse to read feedback not in Japanese.





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"Re(6):This thread is a BLOOD BATH [rimshot]" , posted Mon 27 Jun 16:06post reply

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At least I'm gull enough to admit doing wrong. I just feel that way about SNKP sometimes you know? The lack of blood wasn't a result of SNKP's racism. They don't feel like putting it in, and that what I want to debate about. How and why did they decide to do this? What can we do to ensure all their customers are happy with this game? Of course no game is perfect but still, I want to find a way to convince them somehow to at least consider putting a blood option in. Going to their website and posting the request in their loke test form a buncha times doesn't help. Besides, chances are they'd refuse to read feedback not in Japanese.

Yeah, once again, I can understand being upset about them leaving out blood in a Samurai Shodown game... I don't like the idea much, either. I don't think I'm AS bothered, but I don't like it. However, you've got to understand their concern- they just don't have the money to blow on serving markets like the US that are a very big risk. They don't really have the finances to research what we think about their games, so they have to go with the Japanese market that'll actually pay attention, then hope someone here likes it too. Again, the matsuri festival idea is very very likely to be a preventative measure to avoid whining and moaning from media psychos in Japan and the US about violence and blood in video games. Who knows? They may make an option for the home port if the Japanese fans got angry like before, and I'm sure we'd get blood too if it got ported here.

If you want to do something about it, you could get on their site and politely ask that they include the blood as an option or unlockable or something, but don't be surprised if you don't hear from them... even American companies don't always respond to requests or e-mails or whatever from the US market. I'm sure it'd help them out if you wrote it in Japanese, but if you use translating software, you'll want to double-check the translation by putting it back into English and see what it says. I used to draw a little at some Japanese oekakis, and I posted comments using a translation program (Blargfish, of course) just out of politeness or whatever and it would screw up what I wanted to say a lot... and I'd have to go back and forth just for a few sentences. So, be careful if you end up doing that.





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"Re(7):This thread is a BLOOD BATH [rimshot]" , posted Mon 27 Jun 23:01post reply

Well, I could try that. Dunno how many times I'd have to retranslate everything though. Perhaps the simplest solution would be to e-mail my US division about this and request they forward my message to the Japanese division. Fortunately, SNKPUSA responds to most e-mails I send them.





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Japan sucks!
Slap a Jap!

There, I said it.

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"Re(1):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Fri 1 Jul 13:32:post reply

I looked at the definition of Matsuri on the encyclopedia site, and I don't see a single thing that says no blood allowed in it. Someone explain this situation, and what I can do to get them to add a blood/gore option to the game, and just have it off by default.

Iggy, you should have an idea of what's going on. You seem to know Imoya inside and out.





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"Re(3):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Mon 4 Jul 13:22post reply

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LOL BUTSEKS



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"Re(4):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Mon 4 Jul 17:03post reply

One of the reasons I didn't like Genjuro in SvC Chaos was because his sword slashes were weak... and bloodless.
It felt like playing Genjuro with a plastic sword.

What about the fighting mode in SS Tenka that's just like SS5(S) (forgot the name) ? Will it have Zetsumei, even if watered down ?





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"Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Sun 10 Jul 15:16post reply

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One of the reasons I didn't like Genjuro in SvC Chaos was because his sword slashes were weak... and bloodless.
It felt like playing Genjuro with a plastic sword.

What about the fighting mode in SS Tenka that's just like SS5(S) (forgot the name) ? Will it have Zetsumei, even if watered down ?



Well, the plastic sword will take on a whole new level with this. With respect to KTallguy's thread I'm taking the conversation about blood back here. Now I am still looking for a logical explanation as to why they're robbing us of this trademark in SS Matsuri there since the beginning. I see that this matsuri is all festivals and stuff, but what exactly is the theme of this festival? Antiviolence? It's hypocritical to practice lack of bloodshed when it's centered around a series that was practically BUILT on drawing blood from your opponent.

And when you split your opponent, do you see endless blood and guts everywhere? NO! Why? Because it was not meant to be real. This weak-heartedness SNKP took with this game makes me sick.





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"Re(1):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Sun 10 Jul 15:57post reply

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Because it was not meant to be real.



Is the Samurai Showdown supposed to be real?





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"Re(2):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Sun 10 Jul 16:06post reply

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Is the Samurai Showdown supposed to be real?



The "gore" sure wasn't, but cutting your opponent and making them bleed is though. Of course everything else is fiction, but as I said earlier taking a trademark such as the blood out over a feeble excuse that no one can do anything about is just foolish.





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"Re(3):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Sun 10 Jul 17:17:post reply

Let's let go of this thread before it gets any worse.
Be good to each other, everyone. Don't bash each other.
[Edit: Cripes, I'm late. Missed this thread.]

To answer to Stifu, the SSZero/Rei mode doesn't seem to have the fatality attack.

Actually, there doesn't seem to be any deaths in the game at all. Meaning, the characters don't slice into peices when they get KO'ed with a slash in the final round. Not much of a problem though, since it doesn't effect gameplay. I guess SNKP decided to do away with the violence since their incident with SSZSpecial.

It's also kind of understandable given the current situation within Japan where the general media are blaming videogames for murderous children. Some junior highschool kid went to his old grade school and stabbed a few faculty members, killed one.

Turns out he was a hardcore gamer that wanted to grow up to become a programmer or a game magazine writer. And as usual, the newspapers and TV are having fun in saying that videogames can make kids violent. They evern went to the point of saying that the kid was a BioHazard fan, and he was influenced to slash his old teachers with a knife like the zombies.





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"Re(5):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 10 Jul 20:31post reply

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One of the reasons I didn't like Genjuro in SvC Chaos was because his sword slashes were weak... and bloodless.
It felt like playing Genjuro with a plastic sword.


Bloodless?! Exactly what were you playing Chaos on? Genjuro's specials involving the sword definitely had the opponent spewing some blood when they took a hit (Maybe not as much as in SS, but blood's there.).

Same with Iori's throws and Exceed and Demitri's Midnight Pleasure (But not the Midnight Bliss, go figure!).





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"Re(6):Ken Samu pushed back" , posted Sun 10 Jul 20:35post reply

Haha... I guess I should have configured the BIOS options and stuff... I'll have to try that on my ROM... Oops, I meant on my official cart I bought, of course. ;)





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"Re(4):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Sun 10 Jul 20:39post reply

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Turns out he was a hardcore gamer that wanted to grow up to become a programmer or a game magazine writer. And as usual, the newspapers and TV are having fun in saying that videogames can make kids violent. They evern went to the point of saying that the kid was a BioHazard fan, and he was influenced to slash his old teachers with a knife like the zombies.



Yea... it's amazing what games make kids do these days =P I should watch the news, I didn't hear about that particular kid.

The game is shaping up really nicely though! I'm really excited about it, and I hope it gets popular in the states (please god, let it get popular in the states, all over the world even!) so we can have some tournaments stateside.

SNK is doing their best to get their name out all over the world, and I can really see that they are putting effort into their new products. I hope they succeed!





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"Re(5):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Mon 11 Jul 02:40post reply

That's the trouble with Japan nowadays. Because they are usually a beneviolent country, whenever acts of violence occur, they usually blow it out of proportion.

But Stifu's right. I don't feel like hitting someone with one of Haohmaru's hard slashes and just seeing a little spark from it. It is like everybody was given plastic weapons. It makes absolutely no sense.





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"Re(6):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Mon 11 Jul 03:41:post reply

Although I wish there was blood in the game, I think you're bitching too hard, Abster.
80% of what you say about the game is complain about the lack of blood.
And even though I can understand how you feel, whining about it here will NOT change anything, apart from you getting on people's nerves. This thread is just a proof of that.

I'm not saying that just for what you said in this topic, but also how you brought that up in KTallguy's loke test report thread... You had to be warned like 3 times and threatened with a topic deletion to finally stop ranting about the blood thing there.

When I saw you say "With respect to KTallguy's thread I'm taking the conversation about blood back here", I thought you did that all by yourself, being sensible about it, but I hadn't opened the loke test thread yet... Well, at least you somewhat knew when to stop.

No matter how frustrated you are over the blood issue, you shouldn't pollute any SS discussions with rants that will never be heard by SNKP anyway.

Yet again, it's a shame there will not be at least an option to active blood in the game (apparently at least), but it's not a reason to disrespect other people's wish not to spoil SS topics with that.





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"Re(7):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Mon 11 Jul 03:49post reply

Yo. If I could do something to grow SNKP some balls, I would.

I cannot stand a SS game without blood in it, as it's a complete eyesore to the series, and yet NOONE has explained the reason behind the blood removal and explained how the matsuri festival tries to justify this stupid move.





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"Re(8):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Mon 11 Jul 03:55post reply

Well... If I were you, I'd do things that might actually be useful and change things, like:

-Ask a Japanese speaking person to translate a message you'd send to SNKP through the form on the SS Tenka site
-Ask someone who goes to the loke test to leave a note to SNKP about how fans will miss the blood or something (maybe even suggest making it an option ?)

Being nice and not annoying is usually the way to go, especially since you have no power over SNKP.





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"Re(9):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Mon 11 Jul 04:03post reply

quote:
Well... If I were you, I'd do things that might actually be useful and change things, like:

-Ask a Japanese speaking person to translate a message you'd send to SNKP through the form on the SS Tenka site
-Ask someone who goes to the loke test to leave a note to SNKP about how fans will miss the blood or something (maybe even suggest making it an option ?)

Being nice and not annoying is usually the way to go, especially since you have no power over SNKP.



Well, I sent SNKP an e-mail just now in english and babelfished Japanese about my request, and looking for reasons based off this decision. Even if I asked KTallguy to give SNKP that decision, I doubt they would even listen to him because I think a number of fans had brought that issue up there already, but SNKP refuses to listen to that request.





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"Re(6):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Mon 11 Jul 04:14post reply

Dont mad at me but even Angel can curb his desire for blood.That makes me think you as a vampire who is also fan of ss series.You're complaining like lack of blood is an insult to your existence.
Sometimes we cant everything we like at the same time.

For example;
My favourite character in 99 was Xiang fei and next year she was gone -in 2001 she was stranger to me-.Foxy was only ultimate fun to play 01 for me and it was too easy to tear apart that bitch clark and heidern players (damn fun).But she dissappear and never come back so far.in 03 Jhun and Hinako was my top choices and im doubt theyre gonna show up in kof XI.

It might not be same but you should let go of this.Maybe they dont want darker ss this time.Maybe theyre trying to make it light-heartened as much as they can.Maybe they want to make a new ss feel.Why dont you accept this.

Also im sure they can add blood option for people like you.And if they dont i recommend you buy some blood from whereever you can and paint your screen with blood.That might help.
Sorry but this blood issue had enough.





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"Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Mon 11 Jul 04:18post reply

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I doubt they would even listen to him because I think a number of fans had brought that issue up there already, but SNKP refuses to listen to that request.


The more fans bring it up to them, the better...
Even if activating blood is a hidden option, a code or whatever, that'd be great... And SNKP wouldn't get shit from soccer moms and stuff since the blood won't be there by default. (and "commoners" would probably not know about the code)

By the way, I don't think they'll take babelfish crap in consideration at all. I know I wouldn't.





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"Re(7):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Mon 11 Jul 04:35post reply

Well, lack of blood isn't an insult to my existence. It's an insult to this game's existence. I've already stated that I don't have a thurst for blood. It's just Imoya is making a huge mistake depriving us of even the option of turning it on. They don't even want to add the option. Isn't that right, KTallGuy? Iggy? Saiki?





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"Re(8):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Mon 11 Jul 05:05post reply

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It's just Imoya is making a huge mistake depriving us of even the option of turning it on. They don't even want to add the option. Isn't that right, KTallGuy? Iggy? Saiki?

Maybe they want to make the game with fresh feeling like non-darker version of game?Maybe they avoid losting that mitsurugi-festival-lighten up-sunny feeling even in the options?I dont know what iggy and saiki thinks but i didnt see any negativity of lacking blood for this game in ktall's report.He seemed impressed pretty much.





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"Re(9):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Mon 11 Jul 05:18:post reply

Everything else in the game does look damn impressive, but it comes at a huge price.

Sure. Perhaps this game goes back to the lighter atmosphere that the first 2 games had, but guess what? The first 2 games had blood. Imoya doesn't even want to attempt to even add any such option to this game.





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"Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Mon 11 Jul 14:17post reply

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Everything else in the game does look damn impressive, but it comes at a huge price.

Sure. Perhaps this game goes back to the lighter atmosphere that the first 2 games had, but guess what? The first 2 games had blood. Imoya doesn't even want to attempt to even add any such option to this game.



How can you STILL be talking about this?

Is there really anything left to say?





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"Re(2):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 14:30post reply

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How can you STILL be talking about this?

Is there really anything left to say?



Nope, because I still haven't gotten the answers I was looking for. Why the hell is SNKP doing this? Why the fuck aren't they even considering adding an option of blood to the game? It would really help if some of the Japanese visitors actually cleared up the picture for me. The lack of blood remains an eyesore to me. It's been bloody since the beginning, and there's no need to turn it into a kiddie game because of a few little incidents they couldn't do anything about.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 15:01post reply

The supposed reasons behind not including blood in the game have already been discussed earlier in the thread. To recap, bascially there's been some controversy lately in Japan about violent videogames. SNK is being careful, it knows that in the Japanese market blood in games is not a make or break factor.

From my experience, Japanese people classify games that feature a lot of explicit violence and such as very "american" games. Case in point, Grand Theft Auto is a very "american game" by Japanese standards. There is a segment of the gaming market that likes these games. However that segment, and the segment that plays Samurai Spirits seem to be completely different spectrums of the market.

SNK knows this, and I sincerely doubt that they have been getting lots of complaints from Japanese players about the lack of blood in the game. Everyone playing the game on that Saturday looked like they were having a decent time, at least.

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Nope, because I still haven't gotten the answers I was looking for.


What exactly are you looking for? None of us work for SNK, we can't get your opinion directly there. They don't read these forums. Any complaints that you have will not reach them anyway.

If the fact that blood is not in the game is that much of a factor, when it's released in the states, don't buy it.





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"Re(8):Blood issue still looks for a solution" , posted Mon 11 Jul 15:20post reply

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Well, lack of blood isn't an insult to my existence. It's an insult to this game's existence. I've already stated that I don't have a thurst for blood. It's just Imoya is making a huge mistake depriving us of even the option of turning it on. They don't even want to add the option. Isn't that right, KTallGuy? Iggy? Saiki?



I really don't mind the fact that blood isn't in.
I've always liked the gameplay of SamSpi series so the blood was just something extra that wasn't the main focus for me.
Blood didn't make the series. The concept of weapon fighting was the main.





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"Re(4):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 15:20post reply

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The supposed reasons behind not including blood in the game have already been discussed earlier in the thread. To recap, bascially there's been some controversy lately in Japan about violent videogames. SNK is being careful, it knows that in the Japanese market blood in games is not a make or break factor.

From my experience, Japanese people classify games that feature a lot of explicit violence and such as very "american" games. Case in point, Grand Theft Auto is a very "american game" by Japanese standards. There is a segment of the gaming market that likes these games. However that segment, and the segment that plays Samurai Spirits seem to be completely different spectrums of the market.

SNK knows this, and I sincerely doubt that they have been getting lots of complaints from Japanese players about the lack of blood in the game. Everyone playing the game on that Saturday looked like they were having a decent time, at least.

What exactly are you looking for? None of us work for SNK, we can't get your opinion directly there. They don't read these forums. Any complaints that you have will not reach them anyway.

If the fact that blood is not in the game is that much of a factor, when it's released in the states, don't buy it.



Well, Playmore needs to take a chance and quit being childish. Did they actually get sued by those arcade operators who were complaing about the "gore" before they censored the AES release of SS0 Special? Did those MVS operators even know that they could adjust the "brutality" level themselves?

GTA is a much different series, and the amount of violence and gore in SS is nowhere near compared to what it is in GTA. SNKP is being too careful, and if there was a way I could directly communicate with them to point that out I would tell them. We're basically helpless against their decisions because they control what we see and can't see, and I'm not about to kiss that kinda company's ass just yet.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 15:51:post reply

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The supposed reasons behind not including blood in the game have already been discussed earlier in the thread. To recap, bascially there's been some controversy lately in Japan about violent videogames. SNK is being careful, it knows that in the Japanese market blood in games is not a make or break factor.

From my experience, Japanese people classify games that feature a lot of explicit violence and such as very "american" games. Case in point, Grand Theft Auto is a very "american game" by Japanese standards. There is a segment of the gaming market that likes these games. However that segment, and the segment that plays Samurai Spirits seem to be completely different spectrums of the market.

SNK knows this, and I sincerely doubt that they have been getting lots of complaints from Japanese players about the lack of blood in the game. Everyone playing the game on that Saturday looked like they were having a decent time, at least.

What exactly are you looking for? None of us work for SNK, we can't get your opinion directly there. They don't read these forums. Any complaints that you have will not reach them anyway.

If the fact that blood is not in the game is that much of a factor, when it's released in the states, don't buy it.


Well, Playmore needs to take a chance and quit being childish. Did they actually get sued by those arcade operators who were complaing about the "gore" before they censored the AES release of SS0 Special? Did those MVS operators even know that they could adjust the "brutality" level themselves?

GTA is a much different series, and the amount of violence and gore in SS is nowhere near compared to what it is in GTA. SNKP is being too careful, and if there was a way I could directly communicate with them to point that out I would tell them. We're basically helpless against their decisions because they control what we see and can't see, and I'm not about to kiss that kinda company's ass just yet.



I'm hella sore about there being no Fist of the North Star characters in Jump SuperStars. I mean, it's retarded that the game should just pander to the undying march of Dragonball and the kids who are into modern Jump. The gory, manly epics of JoJo and Kenshiro ought to stand alongside the modern works to mark the greatness that they are, the current audience BE DAMNED.

If anybody who just read the above paragraph and found it deeply reasonable and moving, then I'm sorry, I can't help you.

Yes, I will always love the "three flower petals" fatality animation in SS1. Yes, SS is better with gore.

But! OMG! We can't just "get over it"! Because that would be caving in to the ignorant pressures that would attempt to coerce such changes into our beloved niche franchises!

Not to worry, the game will be great, and in a year's time, we'll have a better game. And, that game will have gore, since everyone else will have forgotten about these current rumblings or have gotten over them by then. If not, by then this game will be out on MAME or whatever and we'll all play it for free in the closet, so who cares anyway: you can't argue with free.

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"Re(3):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 15:53post reply

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Nope, because I still haven't gotten the answers I was looking for. Why the hell is SNKP doing this? Why the fuck aren't they even considering adding an option of blood to the game?


You've gotten answers. You even gave some yourself, before you started ranting that SNK was racist for removing blood from the game.

(Which was rather silly itself. You complained that SNK censored the blood in the earlier American games, and then called SNK racist for removing blood from all versions of this game. That is about like saying that "everyone" wants blood in the game, even though obviously some people don't (as is shown by occasional complaints against violent games) and people on this very board have said they don't really mind it being gone.)

Personally, I'd rather it be there. But I'm not going to turn rabid for weeks due to its absence.

It is their game. The majority of people aren't going to boycott SNK just because blood is removed. By removing blood, they can claim the game to be more "friendly" even if you still have people hitting each other with sharp weapons as well as firing guns and bows and the like at each other. That is true worldwide, not just in Japan or America. And they go a bit more under the radar from complaints in the process.





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"Re(6):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 16:03post reply

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If anybody who just read the above paragraph and found it deeply reasonable and moving, then I'm sorry, I can't help you.



I found it moving that you used the word 'hella'. NorCal POWER!

Um... that is a strictly NorCal slang right?





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"Re(4):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 16:14post reply

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You've gotten answers. You even gave some yourself, before you started ranting that SNK was racist for removing blood from the game.

(Which was rather silly itself. You complained that SNK censored the blood in the earlier American games, and then called SNK racist for removing blood from all versions of this game. That is about like saying that "everyone" wants blood in the game, even though obviously some people don't (as is shown by occasional complaints against violent games) and people on this very board have said they don't really mind it being gone.)

Personally, I'd rather it be there. But I'm not going to turn rabid for weeks due to its absence.

It is their game. The majority of people aren't going to boycott SNK just because blood is removed. By removing blood, they can claim the game to be more "friendly" even if you still have people hitting each other with sharp weapons as well as firing guns and bows and the like at each other. That is true worldwide, not just in Japan or America. And they go a bit more under the radar from complaints in the process.



From what I heard, SS Tenka will be the last of the series for a while, so this is do or die for the series.

I haven't gotten one single explanation as to how the matsuri festival setting fills in to why the game is bloodless. This festival practices antiviolence, yet we've got swords clashing with one another. Sounds hypocritical don't you think? And I am shocked that there are people who don't care or mind about the blood removal. That to me makes up a huge part of the series character and setting. What kind of weak hearted people do we have here? If you don't like the blood and "gore", the game is not for you. Don't play it! It's that simple.

I didn't call SNK racist because they killed off all blood in this game, I think they're racist because they treated their non-Japanese audience like shit since the beginning. It was a dumb rant that spun off from my main argument.

They should learn to ignore little complaints. It was proven with SS0 Special that they care more about soccer moms than their whole Neo Geo fanbase.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 18:27post reply

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And I am shocked that there are people who don't care or mind about the blood removal. That to me makes up a huge part of the series character and setting. What kind of weak hearted people do we have here? If you don't like the blood and "gore", the game is not for you. Don't play it! It's that simple.


You're being stupid here, seriously. Just because some people don't mind whether there's blood or not in the game doesn't mean they are weak hearted, afraid of blood and gore or anything.
Since when is SS only for people who are into "gore" stuff anyway ? It's not even a gore series at all !

You want SNK to stop being childish, right ? Follow your own advice.
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"Re(5):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 19:56post reply

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If you don't like the blood and "gore", the game is not for you. Don't play it! It's that simple.
In other words, if _you_ like the blood and "gore", then this game is not for you! Don't play it! It's that simple.





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"Re(6):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 20:47post reply

When are you people going to finally ignore that guy ?
That's how you deal with a troll : you don't read his posts. If nobody feeds him, he'll eventually vanish.





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"Re(7):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 20:54post reply

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When are you people going to finally ignore that guy ?
That's how you deal with a troll : you don't read his posts. If nobody feeds him, he'll eventually vanish.
Ah, but I know him all too well. He's like the evil Energizer Bunny. He _never_ stops. Not even if you were to chop off his head.





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"Re(6):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 22:10post reply

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You're being stupid here, seriously. Just because some people don't mind whether there's blood or not in the game doesn't mean they are weak hearted, afraid of blood and gore or anything.
Since when is SS only for people who are into "gore" stuff anyway ? It's not even a gore series at all !

You want SNK to stop being childish, right ? Follow your own advice.
Stop being a troll and come back to your senses.



It's NOT a gore series. I'm talking about those people who were complaining about SS0 Special's violence and forced SNKP to censor the AES release. Those are weak hearted people that should've never played the game in the first place. They ruined the series for us.





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"Re(7):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Mon 11 Jul 23:31post reply

Iggy-san, make love to me! Then maybe I can forget all about Abster's existence...





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"Re(8):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Tue 12 Jul 00:25post reply

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"Re(7):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Tue 12 Jul 03:09post reply

Well Iggy, I think you have some of the answers I need, especially concerning the matsuri stuff.





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"Re(8):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Tue 12 Jul 03:18post reply

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Iggy-san, make love to me! Then maybe I can forget all about Abster's existence...

I'm waiting for you. With the training you have in your avatar, you should have climbed the stairs to my luxurious domain in no time.
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"Re(9):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Tue 12 Jul 03:47post reply

Question. How many times have you humped Bridget?





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"Re(9):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Tue 12 Jul 03:52post reply

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Iggy-san, make love to me! Then maybe I can forget all about Abster's existence...
I'm waiting for you. With the training you have in your avatar, you should have climbed the stairs to my luxurious domain in no time.
OH NO WATCH OUT BEHIND YOU IT'S AAAAAAAAAHH !!!!


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"Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a s" , posted Tue 12 Jul 04:44post reply

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*ding dong*


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"Re(2):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks f" , posted Tue 12 Jul 04:52post reply

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*opens carefully the door*
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees ?


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"Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks f" , posted Tue 12 Jul 05:31post reply

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*kikkoken attack*


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"Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks f" , posted Tue 12 Jul 05:32post reply

We all know, Iggy and NG love getting it in the ass. We know that already.

I just need someone to help me out on this situation so I don't confront it alone. I know there are a number of people who want the blood back, even on this board, and I want to give Imoya some kinda message that can show a strong request for an option. SS has always been bloody, and turning the series into a kiddie game is just fucking lame.





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"Re(4):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks f" , posted Tue 12 Jul 05:54post reply

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Hum, I like agressive cruising techniques.


...I guess smoking after sex just isn't for me...





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"Re(5):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks f" , posted Tue 12 Jul 07:31post reply

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...I guess smoking after sex just isn't for me...


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"Re(6):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks f" , posted Tue 12 Jul 08:11post reply

I wanna donate some from my blood to abster.Who is with me?





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"Re(6):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks f" , posted Tue 12 Jul 08:25post reply

To clear up any confusion, NG is me btw.
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Sorry, we have a very strict non-smoking policy in our office.
Like I said, tobacco is not for me. How about smokin' dick though? Is that allowed?





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"Re(7):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks f" , posted Tue 12 Jul 08:26post reply

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I wanna donate some from my blood to abster.Who is with me?



Bleh. Don't worry, I don't need donations for my own blood. I'm fine.

But we gotta somehow convince SNKP to at least consider adding an option instead of having them completely reject it at all.





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"Re(8):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks f" , posted Tue 12 Jul 09:10post reply

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But we gotta somehow convince SNKP to at least consider adding an option instead of having them completely reject it at all.


So ask for someone who send an e-mail to them.Like someone says we cant do nothing but to ask.





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"Re(9):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks f" , posted Tue 12 Jul 10:20post reply

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But we gotta somehow convince SNKP to at least consider adding an option instead of having them completely reject it at all.

So ask for someone who send an e-mail to them.Like someone says we cant do nothing but to ask.



Asking is pretty much all we can do. Would one this board's Japanese fans help me out on translating a private e-mail?





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"Re(7):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks f" , posted Tue 12 Jul 15:30post reply

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How about smokin' dick though? Is that allowed?


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"Re(8):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks f" , posted Tue 12 Jul 21:21post reply

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No, it tastes too bad.
Vomiting while performing oral sex is not the sensual action it appears to be.



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"Re(10):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still looks" , posted Tue 12 Jul 23:36post reply

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"Re(2):Re(10):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still " , posted Wed 13 Jul 01:42post reply

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And IIRC, I'm even older.

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"Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still" , posted Wed 13 Jul 04:08post reply

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WE'RE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD !!!!!

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"Re(4):Re(10):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still" , posted Wed 13 Jul 06:19post reply

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"Re(5):Re(10):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still" , posted Wed 13 Jul 06:48post reply

Sheesh. It's funny neither of them get tired with all this chasing.





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I thought the fact you would never catch the girl in the stairs was enough of a reason...
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"Re(8):Re(10):Re(10):Re(10):Blood issue still" , posted Wed 13 Jul 09:53post reply

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GAY <educational mode> No, chasing a girl is not gay. You have it backwards.



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"Re(6):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Wed 13 Jul 10:03:post reply

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I'm hella sore about there being no Fist of the North Star characters in Jump SuperStars. I mean, it's retarded that the game should just pander to the undying march of Dragonball and the kids who are into modern Jump. The gory, manly epics of JoJo and Kenshiro ought to stand alongside the modern works to mark the greatness that they are, the current audience BE DAMNED.




Kujo Jotaro has been confirmed to be in Jump Superstars.

But doesn't Raijin own the license to the Fist of the North Star characters now? Could they even use Fist characters in Jump Superstars? And yeash, Jump Superstars has like 30+ playable characters plus a bunch of support characters and Fist is getting it's own 2D Fighter from Sammy, who cares? You just want to make Yugi's brain explode... don't worry man, the Yu-Gi-Oh! fad will pass...

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"so..." , posted Wed 13 Jul 10:33post reply

Until a Japanese speaker can translate my request for Imoya I've done about all I could. Unless there's some success, the game slogan looks to be "Silly rabbit, swords are for kids!"

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"Re(7):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Wed 13 Jul 11:17post reply

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I'm hella sore about there being no Fist of the North Star characters in Jump SuperStars. I mean, it's retarded that the game should just pander to the undying march of Dragonball and the kids who are into modern Jump. The gory, manly epics of JoJo and Kenshiro ought to stand alongside the modern works to mark the greatness that they are, the current audience BE DAMNED.



Kujo Jotaro has been confirmed to be in Jump Superstars.

But doesn't Raijin own the license to the Fist of the North Star characters now? Could they even use Fist characters in Jump Superstars? And yeash, Jump Superstars has like 30+ playable characters plus a bunch of support characters and Fist is getting it's own 2D Fighter from Sammy, who cares? You just want to make Yugi's brain explode... don't worry man, the Yu-Gi-Oh! fad will pass...




Come now, you know what I meant :)

I'm going to stubbornly refuse to accept any claim that Jotaro is in JSS until I see really solid evidence that he is in. Kinda like how Abster over here stubbornly clings to his beliefs about blood in SS. About the only evidence I have seen about Jotaro being in the game is from that picture on that site that pollyanna linked to once, and that picture comes with a disclaimer saying that it isn't confirmed to be real.

Btw, I don't know if Raijin actually owns the license to the Fist of the North Star characters or if they simply got it during the time which they were releasing Fist of the North Star here in North America, and their hold over it dissipated after they (Raijin) did. Certainly, they don't own the license for it over in Japan.

And no, I don't want to make Yugi's head explode with Kenshiro. Yugi entertains me too much with his outrageous English voices. I'd much rather like to see Kenshiro or Jotaro do things like... say, shrug off the Death Note and go, "It is an evil man like YOU who doesn't deserve to live! ORAORAORAORAORAORAORA/ATATATATATATATATATATA"

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Somehow, english here is so mangled that such a notion was misinterpreted???
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"Re(1):so..." , posted Wed 13 Jul 11:37:post reply

[quote"Silly rabbit, swords are for kids!"



That one 'milk' commercial, the one where the rabbit is masquerading as a human being and peels off the human skin and finds out he doesn't have any milk... that scared me.

I think I'm gonna go kill someone to take off the edge. Damn, the media really messes with your mind that way huh...





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"Re(2):so..." , posted Wed 13 Jul 14:16post reply

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That one 'milk' commercial, the one where the rabbit is masquerading as a human being and peels off the human skin and finds out he doesn't have any milk... that scared me.

I think I'm gonna go kill someone to take off the edge. Damn, the media really messes with your mind that way huh...



It seems the media has messed with the minds of more than just standard people, especially recently.

KTallGuy, could you help me out on my "mission"?





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"Re(8):Re(10):Blood issue still looks for a so" , posted Thu 14 Jul 01:48post reply

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Come now, you know what I meant :)

I'm going to stubbornly refuse to accept any claim that Jotaro is in JSS until I see really solid evidence that he is in. Kinda like how Abster over here stubbornly clings to his beliefs about blood in SS. About the only evidence I have seen about Jotaro being in the game is from that picture on that site that pollyanna linked to once, and that picture comes with a disclaimer saying that it isn't confirmed to be real.

Btw, I don't know if Raijin actually owns the license to the Fist of the North Star characters or if they simply got it during the time which they were releasing Fist of the North Star here in North America, and their hold over it dissipated after they (Raijin) did. Certainly, they don't own the license for it over in Japan.

And no, I don't want to make Yugi's head explode with Kenshiro. Yugi entertains me too much with his outrageous English voices. I'd much rather like to see Kenshiro or Jotaro do things like... say, shrug off the Death Note and go, "It is an evil man like YOU who doesn't deserve to live! ORAORAORAORAORAORAORA/ATATATATATATATATATATA"





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"Re(1):so..." , posted Thu 14 Jul 06:57post reply

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Spoon doesn't say it's gay to chase girls, it's not enjoying the chasing that makes it gay. :p

Funny thing is, Spoon didn't even say that.He just called JJWE GAY.After JJWE said it's a no-no situtaion to himself chasing a girl for any reason.





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"Proof Kujo Jotaro's in Jump Superstars - Pic!" , posted Sat 16 Jul 05:42post reply

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I'm going to stubbornly refuse to accept any claim that Jotaro is in JSS until I see really solid evidence that he is in.



Kujo Jotaro is in Jump Superstars gosh darnit!

Proof, ORA!ORA!ORA!





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I've been having nightmares about this lack of blood. Everything now's gonna be pow, zap, wham, and everything else.

Fuck the matsuri festival.





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"pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 05:49post reply

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I've been having nightmares about this lack of blood. Everything now's gonna be pow, zap, wham, and everything else.


Pow, zap, wham? Holy decapitated samurai, Batman, Adam West was in your nightmare?





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"Re(1):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 05:56post reply

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I've been having nightmares about this lack of blood. Everything now's gonna be pow, zap, wham, and everything else.

Pow, zap, wham? Holy decapitated samurai, Batman, Adam West was in your nightmare?



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"Re(2):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 06:10post reply

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I've been having nightmares about this lack of blood. Everything now's gonna be pow, zap, wham, and everything else.

Pow, zap, wham? Holy decapitated samurai, Batman, Adam West was in your nightmare?



Who knows, but I've been watching a lot of Adam West Batman lately. :p

But tossing a shiruken into someone is supposed to draw blood right? Wrong! Now you just get s shitty hitspark along with a pow sound effect.

This matsuri stuff is also shitty because the music is gonna get modified to something like a circus.





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"Re(3):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 06:14post reply

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This matsuri stuff is also shitty because the music is gonna get modified to something like a circus.



A Japanese festival is a bit different from an American circus, dude.

And ferchrissakes, they're not going to add goofy sound effects just because your precious blood isn't in.





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"Re(4):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 06:28post reply

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A Japanese festival is a bit different from an American circus, dude.

And ferchrissakes, they're not going to add goofy sound effects just because your precious blood isn't in.



They're both celebrations. There are fireworks and everything. The only difference is culture and animals. This is nothing like what previous SS games have been, even the first two. This is all kiddie stuff. Don't be surprised to get goofy sound effects to go along with the shitty hitsparks. Blood is not only a precious trademark to this series, but it's essential. No blood = not a SS game. Fuck everyone who thinks otherwise.





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"Re(5):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 07:11post reply

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A Japanese festival is a bit different from an American circus, dude.

And ferchrissakes, they're not going to add goofy sound effects just because your precious blood isn't in.


They're both celebrations. There are fireworks and everything. The only difference is culture and animals. This is nothing like what previous SS games have been, even the first two. This is all kiddie stuff. Don't be surprised to get goofy sound effects to go along with the shitty hitsparks. Blood is not only a precious trademark to this series, but it's essential. No blood = not a SS game. Fuck everyone who thinks otherwise.


Well, fuck you for forcing us to see nightmares as you do and I'm really sick of your whinings. You know what I hope they wont add blood. What I saw is a nice ss game, so fuck blood.Spark and sword sound thats fine with me. Fuck you, again abster.

I dont want to say this but If your so addicted to blood effect, go find a way to head to the Japan, then find SNKP's building and tie yourself with chains to something and say im not leaving till you add blood to ss tenka.And leave us alone.Arghhh, Im done.





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"Re(5):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 07:24post reply

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They're both celebrations. There are fireworks and everything. The only difference is culture and animals. This is nothing like what previous SS games have been, even the first two. This is all kiddie stuff. Don't be surprised to get goofy sound effects to go along with the shitty hitsparks. Blood is not only a precious trademark to this series, but it's essential. No blood = not a SS game. Fuck everyone who thinks otherwise.



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"Re(5):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 07:36post reply

Abster, you've stopped coming over as somebody who is very upset about this and now seem like nothing more than a raving loon. Please, just stop complaining, we KNOW you're upset, you don't need to tell us another fifteen-hundred times. Give it a rest, complaining here doesn't accomplish anything for you other than annoying others.





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"Re(6):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 09:06post reply

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You know what I hope they wont add blood. What I saw is a nice ss game, so fuck blood.Spark and sword sound thats fine with me.



Well, fuck you for wanting to support soccer moms. Burn in hell you fucking baby.

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I dont want to say this but If your so addicted to blood effect, go find a way to head to the Japan, then find SNKP's building and tie yourself with chains to something and say im not leaving till you add blood to ss tenka.And leave us alone.Arghhh, Im done.



Like I said, if I had a way to get there and make them do it I would.

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you know nothing about Japanese festivals. Don't open your mouth about stuff you know nothing about


Why don't you try to stop me then bitch? I've looked up full definitions of matsuri and not in a single spot did it say anything about lack of bloodshed as being a requirement for any of these kinda festivals. This theme is something those assholes at SNK Playwhore came up with, and are gonna stick in our faces. In exchange for everything else, SS fans get robbed of the legitimacy of one of its best franchises.





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"Re(7):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 09:24:post reply

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Why don't you try to stop me then bitch?


................. this isn't gamefaqs. dont act that idiotic.....

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I've looked up full definitions of matsuri and not in a single spot did it say anything about lack of bloodshed as being a requirement for any of these kinda festivals.


so you know what Japanese festivals are like just from looking up the definition?
wow

quote:
This theme is something those assholes at SNK Playwhore came up with, and are gonna stick in our faces. In exchange for everything else, SS fans get robbed of the legitimacy of one of its best franchises.


afaik, it really isnt Imoya that thought it up. Its just something that fans assume.

i dunno, you're whole attitude seems to fit more into gamefaqs than here......





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"Re(8):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 09:29:post reply

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so you know what Japanese festivals are like just from looking up the definition?
wow

afaik, it really isnt Imoya that thought it up. Its just something that fans assume.


What? You're saying the fans themselves thought of the bloodless matsuri festival? What a joke. I don't believe that for a minute.

Doesn't nobody here have the same view as I do? Message boards are for debate, and I need help getting into SNKP's small brain so I don't get robbed of my favorite series' primary trademark.

At least Red Falcon finally knows what I'm talking about.

Not only have I looked at the matsuri definition, I've also seen such festivals on tv, and I've read about them in a number of other cases.





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"Re(7):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 09:34post reply

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and not in a single spot did it say anything about lack of bloodshed as being a requirement for any of these kinda festivals.


Holy cow, I just came up with the greatest thing ever: FETAL BABY-based food/beverages for Christmas. omg. The brilliance of this is amazing. I'm off to stock up on uterine discharges and used placentas for what I KNOW is going to be a revolutionary holiday product.

Don't ban Abster. I wouldn't have been able to come up with that joke without him.





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"Re(6):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 10:03post reply

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Well, fuck you for wanting to support soccer moms. Burn in hell you fucking baby.

Wrong,I'm not supporting soccer moms I'm just pissed off.

Fuck you for wishing me to burn in hell for a simple game.

Fuck you for your continously cryin' about blood weeks and weeks.

Fuck you...


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Abster, you've stopped coming over as somebody who is very upset about this and now seem like nothing more than a raving loon. Please, just stop complaining, we KNOW you're upset, you don't need to tell us another fifteen-hundred times. Give it a rest, complaining here ....


I wish that noone asked him "what is soul calibur route?" ever.He never stopped since then. He's complaining in neo-geo.com forums,too and it is not enough for him complaining there.

Abster,Just stop ok,we get that you desperately want blood in sstenka,you dont see matsuri as an excuse. Please tell me whats my fault to hear these endless whinings.And theres no official confirmation about no blood in the game.
Please just stop.





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"Re(7):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 10:16:post reply

Ban Abster? This is the most entertainment we've had around here since we saw the "strongest woman in the world" thread where that Japanese girl german suplexed a guy in an elevator. I say make Abster a moderator or something, LOL!





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"Re(7):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 10:18:post reply

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I wish that noone asked him "what is soul calibur route?" ever.He never stopped since then. He's complaining in neo-geo.com forums,too and it is not enough for him complaining there.

Abster,Just stop ok,we get that you desperately want blood in sstenka,you dont see matsuri as an excuse. Please tell me whats my fault to hear these endless whinings.And theres no official confirmation about no blood in the game.
Please just stop.



Well, Iggy convinced me a while ago that there is a link between the lack of blood and the matsuri festival. It makes me go back to the question I started with, and that is, what is this link between matsuri and lack of blood? Can't someone just explain this to me?

The Soul Calibur route is very simple. You get a huge axe going halfway through your body and not a single ounce of blood.

You're just complaining to my complaints and not offering to help me out on my request.

There is official confirmation that SNKP doesn't intend to put the blood in. Just look at the Arcadia screenshots, and loketest reports. It's more than obvious SNKP is hellbent on keeping blood out of this game. They don't need to place an official confirmation statement on their site or anything. A picture says 1000 words.





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"Re(8):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 10:24post reply

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There is official confirmation that SNKP doesn't intend to put the blood in. Just look at the Arcadia screenshots, and loketest reports. It's more than obvious SNKP is hellbent on keeping blood out of this game. They don't need to place an official confirmation statement on their site or anything. A picture says 1000 words.



I mean, it is kind of sucky. Still won't effect me buying this game or not though.





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"Sorry Rid" , posted Mon 18 Jul 10:53post reply

But I was _way_ ahead of you. Scroll up a few umpteen messages and you'll find this, and I quote:
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"I use duracell :p" , posted Mon 18 Jul 11:19post reply

And Rid's prolonged battery message makes this thread take twice as long to load now. :p

One of my weaknesses is that I do tend to be obsessive. I don't want my favorite character coming back under kid-orientated circumstances such as these. I bump this topic because no one answered my question about a matsuri/bloodless circus link.





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"Re(1):I use duracell :p" , posted Mon 18 Jul 11:40:post reply

Does this post make my Avatar look fat?





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"Re(2):I use duracell :p" , posted Mon 18 Jul 11:50post reply

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Does this post make my Avatar look fat?



Nah. I think it looks fine.





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"Re(3):I use duracell :p" , posted Mon 18 Jul 12:54post reply

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Nah. I think it looks fine.



Awe, you just like it 'cuz Sagara Sanosuke has bleed on occasion. Meep!





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"Re(4):I use duracell :p" , posted Mon 18 Jul 13:09post reply

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Awe, you just like it 'cuz Sagara Sanosuke has bleed on occasion. Meep!



Nah. I don't see any stretching of the avatar, so it looks fine.

Perhaps I can make some kinda deal. If SNKP brings blood back into SS Tenka before the final version, you can ban me for a whole month.





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"Re(8):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 13:15post reply

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The Soul Calibur route is very simple. You get a huge axe going halfway through your body and not a single ounce of blood.


On that regard, you might as well complain about a huge axe going halfway through your body and you don't die.

(Or as the case is sometimes, a huge axe goes halfway through your body and you don't even get hurt.)





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"Re(9):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 13:24:post reply

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On that regard, you might as well complain about a huge axe going halfway through your body and you don't die.

(Or as the case is sometimes, a huge axe goes halfway through your body and you don't even get hurt.)



Why do I need to? I just gave an example of how lame something like this is to a game that was basically built on bloodshed.





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"Re(10):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 15:45post reply

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Why do I need to? I just gave an example of how lame something like this is to a game that was basically built on bloodshed.



I'm now convinced you won't shut up just because you wanted to get this thread over 200 replies.





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"Re(2):Re(10):pow, zap, wham" , posted Mon 18 Jul 16:33post reply

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I'm now convinced you won't shut up just because you wanted to get this thread over 200 replies.



Actually, I was thinking of starting a new thread to pick up where this one leaves off after 200 replies.





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