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Juke Joint Jezebel

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"funimation = TRUST?" , posted Tue 24 May 12:14

i'm sure i've asked this before. i swear this is the last time i'll make a new thread about it

anyways, has Funimation messed anything up lately? by that, i mean by any sort of censorship
has anyone grabbed the FMA dvds and noticed if they've been redone at all?
i think i heard that they did a good job with the Fruits Basket dvds. although i might've dreamt that

i've been so happy when i heard that Gunslinger Girl was finally coming here. i didn't even realize it was Funimation doing all the fun until now

you'd think ADV would do it. you know, since they brought the other thing

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Gojira

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"Re(1):funimation = TRUST?" , posted Tue 24 May 12:31

I watched vol. 1 of FMA a few days ago, but seeing as I haven't seen it before, I don't know if it's censored or not. I guess, give me a scene and I'll tell you if it was there.

Off with your nose

Satoshi Miwa

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"Re(1):funimation = TRUST?" , posted Tue 24 May 14:38

quote:
i'm sure i've asked this before. i swear this is the last time i'll make a new thread about it

anyways, has Funimation messed anything up lately? by that, i mean by any sort of censorship
has anyone grabbed the FMA dvds and noticed if they've been redone at all?
i think i heard that they did a good job with the Fruits Basket dvds. although i might've dreamt that

i've been so happy when i heard that Gunslinger Girl was finally coming here. i didn't even realize it was Funimation doing all the fun until now you'd think ADV would do it. you know, since they brought the other thing

ADV doesn't have ties to Cartoon Network, which Funi has. And I think the licensors knew FMA would be better served by going on the CN than a Video on Demand Service.

And Funi has a pretty good reputation for their subtitled stuff, not censoring anything and doing it uncut. Not to sure about their dubs (since I don't watch them) but even those I've heard are quite good. It's just their DBZ tv dub which was edited and censored....

And I really wanna go to Molten Core or Onyxia's lair. Or form a Marimite guild...(Not releated to the topic, but I thought it was worth saying since WoW has taken over my net life).

DarkZero

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"Re(2):funimation = TRUST?" , posted Tue 24 May 20:04

I don't think I've heard a single complaint about Funimation since their decision several years ago to get serious about releasing uncut subbed versions of Dragonball Z. Ever since then, their reputation seems to have gotten better and better. All in all, I think I've heard less complaints about Funimation than any other company.

Then again, Bandai took a $200 Zeta Gundam boxed set with all kinds of goodies in it and dubtitled the whole goddamn thing, but I've never heard anyone breathe a word of complaint about it. So the anime community can be sort of weird in that respect.

Juke Joint Jezebel

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"Re(3):funimation = TRUST?" , posted Tue 24 May 23:45

i like where this thread is going

exodus

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"Re(4):funimation = TRUST?" , posted Wed 25 May 00:56

are there boobs in this?

I like the boobs.

Maou

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"Re(5):funimation = THRUST?" , posted Wed 25 May 03:10

Ya, haven't heard many gripes lately, though I remember thinking it was a waste how they gave the Lupin III movies they got their hands on really stupid names, but at least they had subtitles available, I hear. "Dragon of Doom," "Flight to Danger," though? How lame.

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exodus

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"Re(6):funimation = THRUST?" , posted Wed 25 May 03:22

I like the way the lupin episodes were rewritten. it's the only series I'll watch dubbed. am I a pox on society?

Burning Ranger

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"Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 03:23

I think there is a bigger issue here--theres a concern that due to the popularity of Anime in the US, theres a tendency for distributors to cut corners and/or make shows more acceptable in our Western market. Whenever I go to Best Buy, I'm usually shocked by the growing Anime section that's there, something that wouldn't have been there 10 years ago. The question is: do distributors support the anime fans or the mainstream? It's hard to say. But consider this... there are a lot of titles available in the US, but only a few have a strong following. My point? Well, I think that while Anime has a lot of support in the US, I think the distributors, in the long run, are doing whatever in a desperate attempt to cash in.

RANT! OVER!

Advanced Cyborg E. Branger AKA Burning Ranger

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Juke Joint Jezebel

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"Re(1):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 03:31

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do distributors support the anime fans or the mainstream?

anime is (or is becoming) mainstream

funny you mention that though. just came from Best Buy and picked up Golden Boy. i'm gonna have one hell of a boner tonight. i was gonna grab Gunslinger Girl but they're still charging $8 extra for the stupid box and accompanying item(s). i'll wait a while. i might get lucky and the price may drastically fall, like Azumanga. i got that "starter box" for about $18

now who's ranting!

exodus

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"Re(2):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 03:33

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i'm gonna have one hell of a boner tonight.

byoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoooon.

Is golden boy cheap? I still have my VHS subs.

VManOfMana

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"Re(3):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 03:39

I think this rant is appropriate for this topic.

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Juke Joint Jezebel

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"Re(3):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 03:46

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i'm gonna have one hell of a boner tonight.

byoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoooon.

Is golden boy cheap? I still have my VHS subs.

YES

i got it for $15, although you might be able to find it for cheaper. comes with two discs

i mentioned that you might find it cheaper because i found this for $8 a couple of months ago. i don't know what this Essential Anime Collection that ADV's releasing, but they seem to come packed with two discs and sell for very cheap

Pollyanna

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"Re(7):funimation = THRUST?" , posted Wed 25 May 04:51

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I like the way the lupin episodes were rewritten. it's the only series I'll watch dubbed. am I a pox on society?

Lupin WORKS in English. I like everything subbed because I don't trust translators and script writers, but at least Lupin "works" in English...so I can stand to watch it that way, myself.

Radish

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"Re(1):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 05:07

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I think there is a bigger issue here--theres a concern that due to the popularity of Anime in the US, theres a tendency for distributors to cut corners and/or make shows more acceptable in our Western market. Whenever I go to Best Buy, I'm usually shocked by the growing Anime section that's there, something that wouldn't have been there 10 years ago. The question is: do distributors support the anime fans or the mainstream? It's hard to say. But consider this... there are a lot of titles available in the US, but only a few have a strong following. My point? Well, I think that while Anime has a lot of support in the US, I think the distributors, in the long run, are doing whatever in a desperate attempt to cash in.

RANT! OVER!

I remember back when manga section of Borders was about 3 series within the graphic novel section. Now it takes up an entire aisle and includes crazy crap that has nothing to do with books like stuffed animals, figures, and porno choose your own adventure DVDs.

They have even started selling (massively overpriced) untranslated stuff. It feels really weird.

Shapermc
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"Re(1):funimation = TRUST?" , posted Wed 25 May 05:42:

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i think i heard that they did a good job with the Fruits Basket dvds.

My wife recently got into Fruits Basket and nabbed that DVD box for about $45. We started watching it subbed, but we then changed when she stated that the dub was much closer to the text in the manga. This has nothing to do with the topic, sorry. I tested out how different the dub was from the sub (watched in english with the subs on) and it was very different. So having no knowledge of either I have deduced that the english translation was done for the readers of the American manga... which makes a little sense.

So a company that does not do anime right: Dreamworks, who put out Ghost in the Shell 2 on DVD. If there was anything I could do to replace my copy I would, but all are the same. The only language option is Japanese (not the problem) and the only subtitle option is English... for the hearing impared. So you get shit like [electronic beeps] or [crash] or [soft music playing]. Needless to say I emailed off a complaint to no avail. I have boycotted their anime. I am not alone

I rebuke my boycott: http://recp.rm05.net/servlet/SignUpForm?f=2318

[this message was edited by Shapermc on Wed 25 May 05:48]

Maou

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"Re(8):funimation = THRUST?" , posted Wed 25 May 07:01

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Lupin WORKS in English.

Exodus, you don't have to be a pox if you don't want to. I would be cool with that, though. Lupin the TV show isn't done by Funimation, I don't think, just certain of the movies/TVspecials. Don't remember liking the second season English voices of the TV Lupin I saw once, but on the other hand, Streamline Pictures' original LupinIII: Mystery of Mamo dub from way back when has the greatest voices I've ever heard, a shame it's off the market!

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exodus

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"Re(2):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 07:20

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Now it takes up an entire aisle and includes crazy crap that has nothing to do with books like stuffed animals, figures, and porno choose your own adventure DVDs.

more frightening than that, every time I go in that section to pick something up, there are scads of 15 year old girls reading yaoi manga, staring at me hungrily like I'm some kind of snack. I swear they're hoping I'll start making out with the next guy I see. Or them, whichever. I'm not sure. Guess it's partially my fault for dressing the way I do though.

Either way, I try to grab stuff and hightail it out of there.

Radish

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"Re(3):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 07:52

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Either way, I try to grab stuff and hightail it out of there.

You don't know true horror until you've heard a 15 year old girl explain to some stranger how she glomps people at school.

exodus

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"Re(4):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 08:10

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You don't know true horror until you've heard a 15 year old girl explain to some stranger how she glomps people at school.

hah! I've heard that. at least I wasn't in the line of fire.

Burning Ranger

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"Re(4):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 09:47

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Either way, I try to grab stuff and hightail it out of there.

You don't know true horror until you've heard a 15 year old girl explain to some stranger how she glomps people at school.

Now THAT is creepy.

I'm just hoping this popularity (and bastardization) of Anime in the West dies down (I think it has, to some extent). I'm hoping its just a phase, but I don't know what will replace it soon.

Advanced Cyborg E. Branger AKA Burning Ranger

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Radish

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"Re(5):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 11:32

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I'm hoping its just a phase, but I don't know what will replace it soon.

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Red Falcon

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"Re(6):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 12:20

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Curling, the sport of kings!

I'm glad somebody agrees! We should get a bit of the old caber toss going, as well.

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DarkZero

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"Re(5):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 13:55

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I'm just hoping this popularity (and bastardization) of Anime in the West dies down (I think it has, to some extent). I'm hoping its just a phase, but I don't know what will replace it soon.

Why? I like the fact that I can actually get the anime stuff that I want in a timely and convenient fashion. When my mother went shopping for my birthday a few days ago, she knew that I was reading the Hellsing manga, so she picked up three more volumes at Suncoast and then picked up a great Hellsing shirt at Hot Topic. What is wrong with that?

The only thing I'm hoping for is that the industry levels out a bit and instead of having tons and tons of titles shoved onto the shelves by dozens of companies, we get a smaller number of releases that have an overall higher quality. I wouldn't have minded waiting another two years for a Zeta Gundam box set if I knew that some time and care was going to be spent on it. As it is, I'm always sort of wary about buying licensed DVDs. Definitely not because of the money, but rather because I almost always find them inadequate, whereas I'm rarely disappointed by fansubs.

Take Froth-Bite's fansubs of Black Jack, for example. When they knew that the title of an episode wasn't going to make sense to most viewers, they left a note up on the screen for several seconds that explained that it was taken from a famous haiku, which they printed on the screen in English and Japanese and then briefly explained. Every domestic anime DVD I've ever bought has led me to believe that if a domestic translator ever encountered that, they would either leave it unexplained or, more likely, just change it to something as pathetically generic as the titles of most domestic anime DVDs. It's like they're intentionally amateurish and unprofessional because they think that helpful things like translation notes are crass or unprofessional.

Ishmael

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"Re(6):Bigger Issue?" , posted Wed 25 May 23:37

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Why? I like the fact that I can actually get the anime stuff that I want in a timely and convenient fashion.

Exactly. Why anyone would pine for the days of crummy VHS fansubs is beyond me. Not only do I enjoy the convenience of being able to walk into a store and purchase the item I want but I don't have to deal with anime fans in order to get it. It's the best of both worlds.

DarkZero

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"Re(7):Bigger Issue?" , posted Thu 26 May 16:24

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Why anyone would pine for the days of crummy VHS fansubs is beyond me. Not only do I enjoy the convenience of being able to walk into a store and purchase the item I want but I don't have to deal with anime fans in order to get it. It's the best of both worlds.

As with all things, if you long for the gold old days, it's probably because you're too young to remember them.

Pollyanna

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"Re(8):Bigger Issue?" , posted Thu 26 May 19:09

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As with all things, if you long for the gold old days, it's probably because you're too young to remember them.

This may be true, but I think this is an elitist issue as well.

As for overcrowding the market, a lot of that can be attributed to ADV, which just laid off a large number of people and moved all of their offices to one building. Not because theyw eren't making money, but because they were setting up a market where they were in too much competition with themselves and overall profit loss was inevitable.

Radish

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"Re(7):Bigger Issue?" , posted Fri 27 May 02:39:

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Why? I like the fact that I can actually get the anime stuff that I want in a timely and convenient fashion.

Exactly. Why anyone would pine for the days of crummy VHS fansubs is beyond me. Not only do I enjoy the convenience of being able to walk into a store and purchase the item I want but I don't have to deal with anime fans in order to get it. It's the best of both worlds.

Anime was cooler when you had to watch low quality fan subs of Sailor Moon in rooms full of fat, smelly bearded guys.

[this message was edited by Radish on Fri 27 May 02:43]

exodus

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"Re(8):Bigger Issue?" , posted Fri 27 May 03:43

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Anime was cooler when you had to watch low quality fan subs of Sailor Moon in rooms full of fat, smelly bearded guys.

I agree.

Zepy

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"Re(9):Bigger Issue?" , posted Fri 27 May 12:19

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I agree.

I accept.

Satoshi Miwa

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"Re(10):Bigger Issue?" , posted Fri 27 May 15:42

Yeah! We need more Artic Animation fansubtitles and we need them stat! And forget this funky PC stuff, we need Amiga's with Video Toasters. And DVD's? Puh-lease...Laserdiscs forever, but only if you can't rent the series from the local Japanese grocery on VHS...

sklathill
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"Re(2):Re(10):Bigger Issue?" , posted Sat 28 May 04:11

I am not fond of the dubtitled Gunslinger Girl. Not fond of it at all.

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exodus

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"Re(10):Bigger Issue?" , posted Sat 28 May 04:32

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I agree.

Radish has a beard!

.......I think!?

Spoon

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"Re(2):Re(10):Bigger Issue?" , posted Sat 28 May 17:45

Screw everybody.
Just give me Samurai Pizza Cats on DVD...
... with the French and German versions of the OP. Goddamn they sounded funny.

Maou

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"Re(3):Re(10):Bigger Issue?" , posted Sun 29 May 02:36

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Screw everybody.
Just give me Samurai Pizza Cats on DVD...
... with the French and German versions of the OP. Goddamn they sounded funny.

Here here! The US OP is essential, too... I don't care if the US script is completely hilariously irrelevant to the original dialog in every way, it's just too funny, and I remember every lyric of the OP for no good reason at all. "Bad news for Bad Bird!" Samurai Pizza Cats, all over town~

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Radish

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"Re(2):Re(10):Bigger Issue?" , posted Sun 29 May 09:15

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I agree.

Radish has a beard!

.......I think!?

Sometimes I'm a beared anime fan, othertimes a female MMORPG character, but in truth I'm...!

Juke Joint Jezebel

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"Re(3):Re(10):Bigger Issue?" , posted Sun 29 May 12:18

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I am not fond of the dubtitled Gunslinger Girl. Not fond of it at all.

what is wrong with it sir 8(

Spoon

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"Re(4):Re(10):Bigger Issue?" , posted Sun 29 May 14:41

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The US OP is essential, too...

Actually, the US/FR/GER OPs are all translated versions of the same song, sung by equivalent-sounding narrator-persons. Fact is, it is possibly the only example in the history of creation where the localized OP blows away the original.

Holy cow I just realized that I STILL remember the lyrics to the song. Crazy.

It'd also be really funny if they included a JP language track and actual translations of what the JP track says. It'd be like getting two shows on each disc!!! Super value!!!

Maou

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"Re(5):Re(10):Bigger Issue?" , posted Sun 29 May 16:41

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Holy cow I just realized that I STILL remember the lyrics to the song. Crazy.

See, see? The frantic energy of that title made me love that show. And the "translation" created independently of the original script is just too hilarious and clever not to be enjoyable, there's no way around it. It would be weird seing Kyattonindenteyande in Japanese for me!

人間はいつも私を驚かせてくれる。不思議なものだな、人間という存在は．．．