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| Luisinan 1007th Post
 
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|  "Wake Up! Its the PS3" , posted Tue 17 May 15:21
From Firstadopter.com
They have the piccies.
They have the specs. Here are the speccies:
-Blu-Ray media support with 6x today's DVD storage
-Support for CD-ROM, CDR+W, DVD, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD+R
-Backwards compatibility to PS2 and PS1 (touche Xbox 360)
-Memory Stick Duo, SD, and Compact Flash memory slots
-Detachable 2.5 inch hard-drive
-Support for 7 Bluetooth controllers
-6 USB slots (4 in front, 2 in the back
-3.2 Ghz Cell processor with 2.18 teraflops of performance
-255mb XDR RAM at 3.2ghz, 256mb GDDR VRAM at 700mhz
RSX "Reality Synthesizer" graphics based on Nvidia technology is the eye catcher. It will have 128 bit pixel precision, support 1080p resolution (wow!), and take 300 million transistors. The RSX is more than twice as powerful as the best PC graphics cards today. The console will also support video conferencing, internet acccess, digital photos, etc. It's a home media entertainment Battle Royale vs. Microsoft.
Lol. The industry and the gamers are so fscked. How is anyone going to be able to afford the technology and the games? Will game prices go up as development costs sky rocket? Will Nintendo trump everyone with affordability and inovation? Will Sega stop their skyscraper drop of suckiness?
So many questions....
Bored? "160"
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| EternalNewbie
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| "Re(3):Wake Up! Its the PS3" , posted Tue 17 May 16:09
It's looking nice, but between this and the X-box 360, I am getting kind of sad that the term 'video game console' is going out the window. I mean, I like having a multi-media entertainment complex, but you know, sometimes I want to buy something for games and just games. Not only that, but I am sure the customer is still paying extra for all these added benefits. I just want to play games. Plus, sometimes that is all I have extra pocket money to do. If I want to do other multi-media stuff, I got a computer for that. Otherwise, I wouldn't be posting this on the web while downloading stuff. If I want a multi-media home media entertainment center machine thingie that also plays games... well... computers also already do that. They play these kinda widely known things called PC games.
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| EternalNewbie
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| "Re(2):videos up at gametrailers" , posted Tue 17 May 19:42
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That Killzone 2 trailer, if that's real time... I don't know what to say...
I'm still picking my jaw up off the floor.
PS: EternalNewbie, there's always Nintendo(?)
True, but I am a bit worried. As one can see from the other reactions for the next generation consoles, Nintendo has some tough competition. They will need to focus their resources to really wow people. In order to wow people, they will at first need to focus on what their main strong point always has been, first party games.
However, the reason I am worried is that it seems Nintendo has alot of energy invested in current projects around the DS and the Gamecube. Nintendo has spread its first party resources a bit thin right now. Hype, if over done, can be a bad thing, but it is also important. One of E3's main purposes is hype. Nintendo needs to do something to grab some of that hype already being spread out among the next gen consoles. If Nintendo doesn't pull something out to wow people at E3, it will be a fairly big defeat against them. They are already taking a gamble following the traditional game console route, and they need show stuff to the people that will make them think "Hey, Nintendo has something cool here. Better than the competition".
It would seem Sony and Microsoft are a bit blood-thirsty this E3, what with X-box 360 showing off some nice stuff and Gates mentioning Halo 3 (even if there is nothing to show for it) and then we have Sony which, well, just look at this thread. My personal hope is first, the soon to be revealed Revolution will wow the people, and Nintendo will pull out some of their big guns as well. Either a complete new first party game, a new super-fun looking Mario game, the graces of a wonderful 3rd party game, or what I am really hoping will happen, a new Smash Bros. game. Let's face it, Smash Bros. was a hit for the N64 and Melee moved alot of Gamecube consoles. Nintendo can't afford to sit back on this E3. Come on Nintendo, I know you are hyping the new Legend of Zelda, and it does look great, you got some good DS games being made as well (Advance Wars DS is looking great), but remember to give the Revolution some loving. Please, remember to give the Revolution some loving...
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| Iggy 6517th Post
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| "Re(5):videos up at gametrailers" , posted Tue 17 May 20:11
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We're already seeing the disadvantage of having high production costs. The market today is crowded with sequels...many of which come way too soon after their predecessors.
I was more thinking of shorter games (Shadow Heart 1 comes in mind, with his 2-3 screen dungeons).
But I'm not very afraid for the game market. Of course, Ea, evil, etc, but Sony has the funds to lend to smaller developer teams, and guys like Square use the money (and reuse part of the models and work) they made on big FF titles in smaller games for gamers like us (FFX -> U : Saga, FFX2 -> Romamin).
It's simple : Japan has a lot of real gamers, if they don't make games for them, these people won't have anything to do and will have to rape 4 years old children in the street, so they just have to make games for them.
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| DarkZero 1226th Post
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| "Re(4):Wake Up! Its the PS3" , posted Tue 17 May 20:48
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It's looking nice, but between this and the X-box 360, I am getting kind of sad that the term 'video game console' is going out the window. I mean, I like having a multi-media entertainment complex, but you know, sometimes I want to buy something for games and just games. Not only that, but I am sure the customer is still paying extra for all these added benefits.
You're not really paying extra for the added benefits. Take a look at the original Xbox, for example. The Xbox has a hard drive, an ethernet port, and high quality TV video outputs, all of which are used by many Xbox games, but you can't transfer video files off your PC and play them on an HDTV in another room with your Xbox. With a modded Xbox, however, you can. The difference? A ridiculously small amount of software that probably wouldn't take more than a few hours for Microsoft's programmers to code. That's it. A modded Xbox is just "unlocking" what the hardware is already capable of and the Xbox 360 is just doing the same thing right out of the box.
Same thing with the PS2. Everyone complained that it "wasn't a game console any more" because it played DVD movies, but the only reason why it played them was because it had a DVD-ROM drive for bigger games. DVD-ROM drives, by their very nature, play DVD movies very easily, so what was Sony supposed to do? Leave the cheap DVD feature out for the sake of "purity"?
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I also don't get why Blue Ray is going to be necessary... it's like what.. 6 times the size of a DVD? How many PS2 games have actually used up the full 9 gigs on two layers? ummm Xenosaga, GT4, God of War... that's about it.
I think that after the Nintendo 64, every console maker learned the lesson that "more is better". Blu-Ray DVDs may seem useless now, but five years from now when you're burning videos onto your own Blu-Ray DVDs, or buying DVD movies on the Blu-Ray DVD format (if Sony gets their wish!), you'll be glad that your Sony hardware isn't totally gimped until the PS4 is released seven or so years from now.
The PSP is also a good example of this. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony added CompactFlash and SD card slots to the PS3 after realizing that using only the Memory Stick format on the PSP has been a small disaster. Its multimedia capabilities are gimped by the fact that the Memory Stick is the most cost prohibitive memory card format, but Sony probably isn't really getting a massive revenue boost from it because most people are probably buying the licensed SanDisk or Lexar versions instead of ultra-high-margin Sony brand Memory Sticks anyway. And so far the response to the Memory Stick format on the PSP has been pretty universal: "1) Wow, the Memory Stick format sucks! 2) Wow, Sony sucks, too!"
All in all it seems pretty good to me. I just wish we had more non-FMV demos so we could actually evaluate its capabilities instead of asking each other, "Is that FMV? Yeah, I think that's FMV. Are you sure? Kinda sure, yeah."
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| Pollyanna 1113th Post
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| "Re(6):videos up at gametrailers" , posted Wed 18 May 16:00
I don't know where to say this, since there's topics about everything all over the place, but after seeing the DOA4 trailer, I'm sold. I don't think I've said a single nice thing about DOA on this board, because I was a fan that was betrayed, but I feel quite good about DOA4 after seeing it in motion.
I still don't like the renders, but the interactions with the environments and the tons of extra animations they've added to the characters look amazing. The environments didn't feel like part of the fights in DOA3/DOAU, but now they seem well integrated and the characters seem to belong in them as well. It's not just that, though...the characters interact with EACH OTHER better than before, so you have a real feeling that a fight is going on, which many 3D fighters lack.
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| Time Mage 2131th Post
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| "Re(7):videos up at gametrailers" , posted Wed 18 May 18:44
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I don't know where to say this, since there's topics about everything all over the place, but after seeing the DOA4 trailer, I'm sold. I don't think I've said a single nice thing about DOA on this board, because I was a fan that was betrayed, but I feel quite good about DOA4 after seeing it in motion.
I still don't like the renders, but the interactions with the environments and the tons of extra animations they've added to the characters look amazing. The environments didn't feel like part of the fights in DOA3/DOAU, but now they seem well integrated and the characters seem to belong in them as well. It's not just that, though...the characters interact with EACH OTHER better than before, so you have a real feeling that a fight is going on, which many 3D fighters lack.
I have to agree. DOA4 trailer is the one that has impressed me more, maybe because is the only one that's really showing in-game footage, and because the great environment interaction. Heh, the temple stairs scene is great.
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| Pollyanna 1115th Post
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| "Re(8):videos up at gametrailers" , posted Wed 18 May 19:36
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I'm just curious why you were betrayed? How so?
I'm going to get into another argument about DOA that won't be resolved for saying this, but...whatever.
DOA3 didn't make many improvements over DOA2, and with nothing to offer but marginally improved gameplay, it got very old, very fast. DOAU was a complete waste of time (excluding its online capabilities), especially for people who had already spent enough time with DOA 2 and 3.
Also, I don't like the renders or the character designs, I think they look generic and dated. This can easily be overcome by good costume design, though. I really hope they do something with DOA4 like they did with Tekken 5, where they have outside artists design costumes, as I'm convinced that nobody at Tecmo has any sense at all.
When DOA first came out, and moreso with DOA2, it felt like something new and fresh with edgey design. Now, those old designs are laughable and they haven't progressed enough to match the times.
I may end up feeling betrayed after DOA4 as well, but for now, it looks reasonably promising. Of course, I think I'm a minority, because most people who like DOA don't see any of the problems I see. They probably also like "mainstream" anime characters and aren't picky about design.
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"Re(4): Wake up ! It's the PS3 !" , posted Tue 17 May 19:53:
