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| Time Mage 2121th Post
 
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|  "Re(2):Tales of Symphonia" , posted Mon 9 May 17:02:
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Coincidentally, I just started my second playthrough of ToS, this time with four players. It's loads of fun, but does anyone know of a way to make the camera stop following Lloyd in battle? I tried turning off camera auto-zoom, but that seemed to make it even worse.
P.S. As for your question, I can't help you out since this is my first Tales game as well.
About the camera issue, I've read that the only way to stop it for sucking is setting your group's spellcaster (if you have any) to P1, and that way, since usually the distance between the spellcaster and his/her target is large, the zoom will be open enough for the rest to see something.
In the PS2 they fixed this camera issue, but you'll have to resort to tricks in the GC game. At least the GC users get to (ab)use the Tech Glitch, hehe. Having Indination and Prism Swords at the same time, or Resurrection and Revitalize are a blessing.
Oh, Hungrywolf, about Skies of Arcadia Legends: Buy it, you won't regret it. This game has "something" (maybe it's the characters, in my opinion), that makes people enjoy it, even if from a distant point of view it could seem a mediocre game.
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| Pollyanna 1093th Post
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| "Re(2):Tales of Symphonia" , posted Mon 9 May 18:49
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Tales of Phantasia - awesome
Tales of Destiny - Good
Tales of Eternia - Average
Tales of Destiny 2 - Garbage
Tales of Rebirth - Meh
Skies of Arcadia - Average
These are just my personal opinions and are based on the Jpn version of each game.
When ToP first came out, it was totally amazing. Now, I wouldn't have as much fun with it, but...for its time, it blew my mind.
I don't think ToD2 is garbage though. Or...well, I don't think the gameplay is garbage. The story was absolute crap, but there's not one Tales game that has an even decent story as far as I'm concerned. They all have typical plots with anime stereotype characters that are charmingly executed, but hardly engaging. So when the plot to ToD was especially lame, it didn't bother me because I LOVED the battle system and the graphics.
I like Tales of Rebirth fairly well, but the weapon/armor upgrading system is SO STUPID that it practically ruins the game for me. That, and the characters aren't interesting enough. They talk all the damned time and they just don't have enough to say.
The characters in ToS had a lot of interesting things to say, but...not enough for the length of the game. They had 25-30 hours of interesting things, and after that, they were tiring.
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| Saiki
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| "Re(3):Tales of Symphonia" , posted Tue 10 May 01:46
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I don't think ToD2 is garbage though. Or...well, I don't think the gameplay is garbage. The story was absolute crap, but there's not one Tales game that has an even decent story as far as I'm concerned. They all have typical plots with anime stereotype characters that are charmingly executed, but hardly engaging. So when the plot to ToD was especially lame, it didn't bother me because I LOVED the battle system and the graphics.
I like Tales of Rebirth fairly well, but the weapon/armor upgrading system is SO STUPID that it practically ruins the game for me. That, and the characters aren't interesting enough. They talk all the damned time and they just don't have enough to say.
The characters in ToS had a lot of interesting things to say, but...not enough for the length of the game. They had 25-30 hours of interesting things, and after that, they were tiring.
TOD2 is garbage bcuz it had a horrible battle system with that stamina bar.
The story was weak and the characters couldn't make up for it either.
The same really applies to ToR as well though. And I was bitter that they only had all of like 3 classic Tales of battle moves and didn't have a single cameo from past Tales of games....
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| Maou 620th Post
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| "Re(3):Tales of Symphonia" , posted Tue 10 May 02:42
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Tales of Phantasia is what the Gods play in their SFC, PS and GBAs.
Exactly what Rid said. SFC Phantasia is less polished than the PS one and has WAY too many fights...but the PS one is a glorious piece of work with fun acting and a LOT of it (on the map screen), good systems, pretty music, and a lot of charm and personality, archtypal characters or not. The battle system is just too fun. In fact, I remember there being a partially translated script for the PS one, so get that one even if you don't know Japanese. It really is one of the most fun RPG's I've ever played.
Arcadia? I think there's a thread on the previous page about that (hmm, now where was it, the Cafe needs a Search tool) that basically said it had a lot of generic stuff that somehow combined into something really fun that was more than the sum of its parts. I always wanted to play it.
人間はいつも私を驚かせてくれる。不思議なものだな、人間という存在は．．．
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| Pollyanna 1094th Post
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| "Re(4):Tales of Symphonia" , posted Tue 10 May 05:22
I'm surprised to see so much hate for the ToD2 system. The Tales fans I've talked to before mostly regarded it as the best in the series. This is the first complaint I've heard about stamina.
Which game do you think has the best fight system, then? ToS? I thought the ToP system was very good, but...in a different way. It was more like a traditional RPG in that you're directing your party, more than using someone in it.
System aside, I guess my opinion is biased because I think all the Tales games have pretty bad plot and characters, so when you get a horrible stinker like ToD2, it doesn't matter as much. ToS had a few decent plot points, as did ToP, but both run you around unecessarily and have typical, unsatisfying conclusions. I play all the Tales games, but I'm not a fan per se, so I can see people telling me I'm an idiot that doesn't understand anything.
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| Maou 622th Post
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| "Re(5):Tales of Symphonia" , posted Tue 10 May 07:13
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so I can see people telling me I'm an idiot that doesn't understand anything.
..........heheheh, nah, I'd leave that to Rid, since it's really only PSX Phantasia that I adore. Granted, I wish certain things were fleshed out more, particularly the villain, who becomes very interesting but only in the finale. Which leads me to "typical, unsatisfying conclusions." I dunno, I thought Phantasia had a great ending (the song, "I Miss You" is one of Sakuraba's best), especially regarding the villain, and I felt genuinely sad when I had to leave those characters behind when my game was over. I wonder if it's possible to categorize characters as "anime stereotypes" too early and then miss some legitimate charm. I'll remember Chester vs. Archie forever, along with Klarth and Cless's banter.
Something about Phantasia's world, I'd call it its 「世界観」, is very intriguing and appealing, and each village has its own music and character. Get this one, Hungrywolf, you won't regret it.
人間はいつも私を驚かせてくれる。不思議なものだな、人間という存在は．．．
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