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"Yay! new Summon Night" , posted Mon 28 Mar 08:05post reply

http://www.summonnight.net/snworld/snex/index.html

Pretty, with good music and great voice acting - Banpresto 100%

What's a correct romanization of its title? can't get it's meaning.






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"Re(1):Yay! new Summon Night" , posted Mon 28 Mar 08:47post reply

Ex Thesis? X-Thesis?

Well, it's not an SRPG, so I can't really be excited about anything (yet) but the costume designs, which I LOVE. I mean...it might be a great game, it's just that I don't have any basis for feeling that way.

The song is probably just the main theme. Did you like the music in SN3? I thought it was horrible. Well...let me rephrase that...it was mediocre, but unforgivably repetitive.





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"Re(2):Yay! new Summon Night" , posted Mon 28 Mar 12:16post reply

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The song is probably just the main theme. Did you like the music in SN3? I thought it was horrible. Well...let me rephrase that...it was mediocre, but unforgivably repetitive.
Yes, but I've been playing SRW OG2 lately and it has terribly good music (but in low quality sadly) so my Banpresto standards are high at the moment.





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"Re(3):Yay! new Summon Night" , posted Mon 28 Mar 12:50post reply

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Yes, but I've been playing SRW OG2 lately and it has terribly good music (but in low quality sadly) so my Banpresto standards are high at the moment.



But...Banpresto just publishes SN. Flight Plan (?) does it. Sure, they could announce that the SRWOG2 composer is doing the SN music and totally make me look like a fool, but I think it's safe to say that there's no connection.

I've heard that OG2 is really excellent...is it? Keep in mind that I'm not especially fond of most of the original characters and I think SRW, since it has such rotten level design, is 90% novelty.





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"Re(4):Yay! new Summon Night" , posted Mon 28 Mar 14:32post reply

yeah, flight plan - the black matrix guys.

this game is to be an arpg, which makes me happy. I haven't played SN Craft Sword Story, but I've heard very good things!





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"Re(5):Yay! new Summon Night" , posted Mon 28 Mar 18:25post reply

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yeah, flight plan - the black matrix guys.

this game is to be an arpg, which makes me happy. I haven't played SN Craft Sword Story, but I've heard very good things!



Did you really like Black Matrix? You mentioned it before, so I wanted to ask you if you had played the Summon Night games. They're similar...enough.

I can't really get into SN. I liked SN3 enough to play it for quite a while, but the plot was soooooo uninteresting and even though nothing was going on, the characters managed to talk a hell of a lot. That would have been fine if they were interesting, but only about half of them were. Or maybe just Scarell.





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"Re(6):Yay! new Summon Night" , posted Mon 28 Mar 21:46post reply

The Craftsword Monogatari games aren't exactly ARPG's, their battle ssytem is a downgraded version of the Tales of system. Still, very good games.

Original Generation 2 is way too cool, I still can't believe they did all that on a GBA, things like the Fairlions combination attack are amazing. But while it has a solid story (that started in OG1) and a very good gameplay (starts quite hard, but gets easier later if you know what you're doing), I don't think it'll be worth of you don't like the original characters... I love them personally, can't get bored with Rätsel and Leona. Plus the units in this game are just great, even the new ones.





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"Re(7):Yay! new Summon Night" , posted Tue 29 Mar 01:54post reply

yes! I really do like Black Matrix. Quite a bit. I played through most of the Dreamcast one, but got disillusioned when I realized I'd missed a hidden character that would've been really useful. I'd like to finish it though, now that I have a working DC again.

I want the GBA game too...it's really pretty.

I couldn't get into SN either. I think it's the music? Music is really important to me in an SRPG, since it's almost all you hear.

I know it's a good game, objectively. It just doesn't grab me.





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"Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Tue 29 Mar 03:01post reply

quote:
yes! I really do like Black Matrix. Quite a bit. I played through most of the Dreamcast one, but got disillusioned when I realized I'd missed a hidden character that would've been really useful. I'd like to finish it though, now that I have a working DC again.



So, is there any Black Matrix that's actually available in English in any possible form?

I remember one title was supposedly going to make it to the US way back in the 90s...





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"Re(1):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Tue 29 Mar 03:08post reply

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So, is there any Black Matrix that's actually available in English in any possible form?


As far as I know, no.





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"Re(2):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Tue 29 Mar 03:21post reply

quote:

As far as I know, no.



that is correct, unfortunately.





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"Re(3):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Tue 29 Mar 05:53:post reply

quote:

As far as I know, no.


that is correct, unfortunately.



Awww...isn't that cuuuute? Brandon may be a fashion snob like Iggy and me, but he's not an import snob.

Edit: Make=May. Ooops.





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"Re(4):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Tue 29 Mar 06:29post reply

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Awww...isn't that cuuuute? Brandon make be a fashion snob like Iggy and me, but he's not an import snob.


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Notice how the executionner behind Brandon is fashionable. I'm sure he wears a semi formal light uniform with a quiver. Can you be more sexy than that?





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"Re(4):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Tue 29 Mar 06:49post reply

quote:

Awww...isn't that cuuuute? Brandon make be a fashion snob like Iggy and me, but he's not an import snob.



well, I AM pretty cute.

yeah, I gave up being an import snob when I realized several things:
1) I don't have enough time to play games at all, so I don't care when I get them.
2) I will never bother to learn to read japanese as well as I can speak it.
3) Everyone's opinions about everything are wrong.

I doubt my fashion snobbery will ever be in question though.





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"Re(5):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Tue 29 Mar 06:53post reply

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2) I will never bother to learn to read japanese as well as I can speak it.
3) Everyone's opinions about everything are wrong.



Hahaha...everyone's opinions on everything ARE wrong. Mine are wrong AND awesome, though.

And I'll never bother to learn to speak Japanese as well as I can read it.





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"Re(6):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Tue 29 Mar 08:42post reply

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And I'll never bother to learn to speak Japanese as well as I can read it.



LET US FIGHT TO THE DEATH.





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"Re(7):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Tue 29 Mar 09:05post reply

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And I'll never bother to learn to speak Japanese as well as I can read it.


LET US FIGHT TO THE DEATH.



Or better yet, the two of you can get cracking on some fan translation. Heh.





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"Re(8):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Tue 29 Mar 09:13post reply

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Or better yet, the two of you can get cracking on some fan translation. Heh.



hah!! sonnanihimadewanaiyooooooooo.





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"Re(9):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Tue 29 Mar 10:00post reply

Hmm....maybe I'll do a translation of my old favorite "Bird Week." Or perhaps I'll do a new fully voice-acted (by me, of course) remake.





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"Re(10):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Wed 30 Mar 03:20post reply

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Hmm....maybe I'll do a translation of my old favorite "Bird Week." Or perhaps I'll do a new fully voice-acted (by me, of course) remake.



I can do male voices :)
I've been meaning to get into voice acting for a while...I've only done it for my own projects.





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"Re(2):Re(10):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Wed 30 Mar 04:53post reply

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I can do male voices :)
I've been meaning to get into voice acting for a while...I've only done it for my own projects.



I'll do my own damned male voices! Kids are my specialty! Of course, there are only birds in Bird Week. A mother bird, and baby birds. No...wait...you can be the chipmunk...and maybe the flying squirrel. That's half the cast, actually.

So you've done fandubs before? That sort of thing? I used to practice that way. I'd dub every character in a show.

Rid: I forgot to reply to you about SRWOG2. After what you said, I still don't know how to feel, but I guess I was being close-minded in assuming that you felt the way I feel about SRW to begin with. Every SRW I've played has a good system, decent to excellent music, a great cast of characters and awesome graphics. I EXPECT this from SRW games. Since they implement the system SO poorly, though (bad difficulty balance, terrible level layout) I'm forced to play the game for novelty alone. When I read reviews of SRW games, people seem to think they're perfect. They don't seem to notice the unreasonable challenge/level design issues. Furthermore, they think the plot is good, which is just SILLY.

So what I'm asking, assuming that you agree or at least understand these points, is if OG2 transcends SRW. If it has a good plot...that's an improvement, but graphics don't mean anything to me, because I expect that. I'm interested in the game, but if it ends up just being another SRW with characters I'm not as familiar with, then it's a waste of time and money.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Black Matrix Tangent" , posted Wed 30 Mar 08:07:post reply

oh, real birds? hmm.

well, carry on, then. heh.

also, not so much fan-dubs as ADR for short filmsssssssssssssss

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"Original Generation 2" , posted Thu 31 Mar 11:29post reply

The only big problem that OG2 has in its storyline, is how related it is to OG1, where most of the cast and relationships were introduced.

OG1/2 overall has a good story, way better than your regular SRW. There's plenty of twists (specially in the latter half of OG2) and they managed to make all the storylines more or less cohesive, with interesting relationships between the characters. Of course the SRW characters are usually stereotyped and lack depth (like any Tales game, for example) but that's something to expect.

So yes, while not great, the story is better than the rest. And I'm sure you'll find a character you like, there's tons of them, and everybody gets some development sooner or later.