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| KTallguy 547th Post
 
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|  "Re(4):MGS4 FOR PS3:NO HIDEO!" , posted Fri 4 Mar 13:44
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Mario 128: No jumping, No Miyamoto
Ok, so I couldn't help it.
I honestly read this as 'No humping,' at first... so yeah, I have nothing to contribute to this thread, except ask where's my Zone of Enders 3 at?
Hear Hear! Where's my ZOE3 at ?? ?
I mean, ZOE2 being the pinnicle of mecha action games and all... =P
And if Kojima sits out, I'm going to be kind of sad. I'm hoping he sits out for a while, and then goes and looks at the project, and says 'god damn it, you're doing it all wrong' and goes back to being director =)
"手前がやくぶそくなんだよ!"
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| KTallguy 551th Post
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| "OT: ZOE3 etc." , posted Sun 6 Mar 11:18
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Hear Hear! Where's my ZOE3 at ?? ?
I mean, ZOE2 being the pinnicle of mecha action games and all... =P
Well, I wouldn't go that far... unless you were being sarcastic, but it was great and was also the sort of game that left you feeling there was going to be a third game somewhere soon down the road. Maybe it just didn't sell well enough.
Well... for me, no game has combined a really good combat system, excellent weapons, and an interesting story quite like ZOE2. I can't think of another Mecha game I've gotten more enjoyment out of honestly. Unless you want to start diving into the past... I was a HUGE fan of Mechwarrior II back in the good old days, I played Microsoft's MW4 and it wasn't bad, but it just got too arcady for me.
That's one of the reasons that Capcom is a great company. They made a game like Steel Batallion, that basically is every old Mechwarrior fans' wet dream: An insanely detailed, immersive, and complicated Mecha game with a realistic feeling, interesting controller.
They had that game on display at my local Frys in San Diego (Frys is a huge computer warehouse type store in California). I remember going back to the store at least 3 times with my friend just to play. I swear, if I had a lot of expendable cash, I would bu y Steel Batallion and play it until my ears bleed, but I just don't have that kind of money, and X-box games, besides a few really good gems, don't really do it for me.
I was the kid that had the flightstick joystick for my PC and was playing flight simulators, mech-games, anything with complicated controls where you had to read a manual the size of a paperback mystery in order to play. I LOVED those games. I loved the 'realism' and the immersivism of it all.
This is all funny, because ZOE isn't really like that at all, but it feels so fast, so perfect. If they make a sequel, I want bascially more Frames and weapons to play with, a 2 player coop mode with maybe some sub-campaign that's unrelated to the main story, and a good VS battle mode. They could change the system a little, maybe make the sword combat more complex... I dunno... honestly it's great how it is... I don't know how they could improve it...
Does anyone have any ideas for improving ZOE? I mean, I'm sure if/when they make it, they'll think of something, but... I dunno what they could do really...
"手前がやくぶそくなんだよ!"
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| Ammadeau 1293th Post
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| "Re(1):OT: ZOE3 etc." , posted Sun 6 Mar 16:43
Actually, the best mecha game is on xbox, but it isn't Steel Battalion, it's Phantom Crash, whose sequel will be coming to the PS2 relatively soon. I'm also a big fan of the mechwarrior series and was pissed as hell by the abomination known as Mechassault. Gah, what horrid mech series.
Steel Battalion is great, but it's almost too slow paced, even with the fastest mecha. This might be more realistic, but it makes it hard to want to replay a mission you nearly finished.
Only thing I would change really for ZOE is a drastic reduction of the boring conversations and make the movement a little more fluid, as it was moving without a lock-on felt clunky. Online co-op play would be nice. The base gameplay was pretty refined, so maybe that's why no sequel. No new place to really take it.
Got Next - it's a gaming site I write stupid things for
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| Shingo The One 436th Post
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| "Re(3):OT: ZOE3 etc." , posted Sun 6 Mar 18:41
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Only thing I would change really for ZOE is a drastic reduction of the boring conversations
ugh ? I fely the conversations were great, well played and most of all well written. I really, really loved Ada.
Same as well, Iggy-san.In fact, ZOE2 is one of those elite games that I definitely enjoyed for everything it had.The story, the voice acting, the action, the sense of power and evolution, and for me, the best weapon ever created, the Vector Cannon.Now that is what is a true weapon.Can't say anymore than this, other than why would we need another one, when the story is perfectly and happily concluded?
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| Spoon 796th Post
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| "Re(3):OT: ZOE3 etc." , posted Sun 6 Mar 19:04
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Only thing I would change really for ZOE is a drastic reduction of the boring conversations
ugh ? I fely the conversations were great, well played and most of all well written. I really, really loved Ada.
Well in the english version more than a few come across as melodramatic and all the things that you can hook onto the big tree that is melodrama.
And you have lines like,
Dingo: "That's too rough!"
Who cares about the context; it sounds dumb.
I have no issue with ADA, though. That may possibly be because of all the main characters, she speaks the least. And her voice fits. Some of the other voices aren't outright bad, but I don't have much desire to listen to them.
If the guys that made Armored Core agreed for once that they should just implement all the sensible things into one game rather than introducing each sensible thing as a feature of a new AC game, and then joined forces with the crew and wallets of Konami, THEN you'd have the greatest mech game ever. I had sworn off AC since... like the first PSX game. But AC Nexus came across as both fun and cool, something which some 6 years of AC iterations failed to come across as. So yeah. AC team + ZOE team + Konami buckets of cash for the win.
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| CHAZumaru
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| "Re(5):OT: ZOE3 etc." , posted Mon 7 Mar 07:11
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[ZOE]Well in the english version
Ah. Sorry, I keep forgetting.
But AC Nexus came across as both fun and cool
I never touched an AC game in my life, but was Nexus on GC?
I think the GC AC was the only one of the 5 worst kusoge of 2004 which was not by Konami and didn't have a spawn from hell sold with the LE.
Nonononono.
You're talking about AC Formula Front (AC:FF), the PSP one, which is almost a game.
Nexus is the new PS2 episode, yet it actually is more a "best of" the best missions in the previous episodes. Seems really good if you're a long time fan of the series. The regular AC series is quite nice from the second AC2 (AC2AA). AC3SL (the second AC3) is the best episode so far in my book. I don't think there's a single AC on the Gamecube.
I like the AC series (remember, AC:FF on PSP is almost a game, so it doesn't count). It is cheap but humble, mistake-baren but fan-loving, and progressing with each episode.
You wouldn't like it, though, Iggy : it's the antithezis of a charage.
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| Spoon 797th Post
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| "Re(6):OT: ZOE3 etc." , posted Mon 7 Mar 08:16
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[ZOE]Well in the english version
Ah. Sorry, I keep forgetting.
But AC Nexus came across as both fun and cool
I never touched an AC game in my life, but was Nexus on GC?
I think the GC AC was the only one of the 5 worst kusoge of 2004 which was not by Konami and didn't have a spawn from hell sold with the LE.
Nonononono.
You're talking about AC Formula Front (AC:FF), the PSP one, which is almost a game.
Nexus is the new PS2 episode, yet it actually is more a "best of" the best missions in the previous episodes. Seems really good if you're a long time fan of the series. The regular AC series is quite nice from the second AC2 (AC2AA). AC3SL (the second AC3) is the best episode so far in my book. I don't think there's a single AC on the Gamecube.
I like the AC series (remember, AC:FF on PSP is almost a game, so it doesn't count). It is cheap but humble, mistake-baren but fan-loving, and progressing with each episode.
You wouldn't like it, though, Iggy : it's the antithezis of a charage.
He may also be thinking of Custom Robo on GC, which is a totally different game.
The Revolution disk in Nexus is definitely the "best of" part. But I liked the mercenary theme throughout Nexus (like how you'd work for terrorists to disable to a city's power plant, then aid the blacked-out city), which is also present in Revolution (seems every mission can be played from two persectives).
Yeah, I heard AC3SL was good, but it seemed to lack a bunch of features that I had wanted for ages that appeared in Nexus (like dual analog control and overheating).
What the hell was this topic about again? Who knows.
On that note, Magic Pengel Quest for Color needs a NDS sequel.
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"Re(1):MGS4 FOR PS3:NO HIDEO!" , posted Fri 4 Mar 00:41
bien sûr mais pourrions nous quitter le milieu de la route et discuter de cela sur le trottoir?
