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"Games of 2005" , posted Sun 2 Jan 12:06post reply

So what are the games you guys are looking foward in 2005?

So far mine are :

Siren 2
Devil may cry 3
Devil Tuna ( US release )
NGBC
Haunting Grounds ( Demento in JP, right? )





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"Re(1):Games of 2005" , posted Sun 2 Jan 14:18post reply

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So what are the games you guys are looking foward in 2005?

So far mine are :

Siren 2
Devil may cry 3
Devil Tuna ( US release )
NGBC
Haunting Grounds ( Demento in JP, right? )



Hmmm...I'm kinda interested in all of those, if you replace Avatar Tuner with Avatar Tuner 2. I'm not REALLY excited about anything but Jump Superstars and I'm more of -anxious- about that. I guess you can add Final Fantasy 12 and OZ to the list.

Ohoh!!! And the Popolocrois I&II remake!! AM I the only one here who likes Popolocrois? I find that hard to believe.





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"Re(2):Games of 2005" , posted Sun 2 Jan 20:16post reply

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Ohoh!!! And the Popolocrois I&II remake!! AM I the only one here who likes Popolocrois? I find that hard to believe.


I think you are...

My own list has Siren 2, kami, Romancing Sa.Ga Minstrel Song and Zettai Zetsumei Toshi 2.
A little lower are Viewtiful Joe 3, Mina Daisuki Katamari Damashii, Soulcalibur 3 and Nejibako, but I'm looking for them with a "are they going to be good or not" attitude.

And of course, if Gyakuten Saiban DS is released in 2005, we already have our game of the year.





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"Re(3):Games of 2005" , posted Sun 2 Jan 20:29post reply

Ah! I forgot about Okami! I guess it's because nobody has said anything about it for a long time.

I hope Gyakuten Saiban DS doesn't turn into a fiasco where Capcom wants to do it, but the creators don't. It's not that I don't trust that they can make a great game, it's just that they've already made a perfect trilogy. Any more could upset that precious balance.

In other news, it seems really quiet here, like only a few people (most of them with high post counts) are still posting anything. I'm not supposed to be one of the major contributors.





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"Re(1):Games of 2005" , posted Sun 2 Jan 20:34post reply

quote:
So what are the games you guys are looking foward in 2005?

So far mine are :

Siren 2
Devil may cry 3
Devil Tuna ( US release )
NGBC
Haunting Grounds ( Demento in JP, right? )

Well, for my games list this year, I agree with Iggy-san about taking the wait and see approach for all the fighting games(both for arcade and for my PS2)that will be released.
So now, I have to wait and see. Later.





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"Re(4):Games of 2005" , posted Sun 2 Jan 20:37post reply

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Ah! I forgot about Okami! I guess it's because nobody has said anything about it for a long time.

Are you kidding! They have their obnoxious page uploaded every week about how they are using the blood of their children to write the source code of the game !

And stop complaining about the post rate here. If you think there are not enough interesting posts, write them, or shut up.





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"Re(5):Games of 2005" , posted Sun 2 Jan 21:26post reply

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And stop complaining about the post rate here. If you think there are not enough interesting posts, write them, or shut up.


Someone had to say it. Thank you, dear Iggy.





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"Re(4):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 01:15post reply

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In other news, it seems really quiet here, like only a few people (most of them with high post counts) are still posting anything. I'm not supposed to be one of the major contributors.



Personally I enjoy reading Polly-posts. Don't be afraid, Pollyanna, give us all your internet love!





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"Re(6):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 01:30post reply

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And stop complaining about the post rate here. If you think there are not enough interesting posts, write them, or shut up.

Someone had to say it. Thank you, dear Iggy.


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"Re(5):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 01:45post reply

I'm a little confused by the US Devil Tuna release. Is it actually a 2 part game since Atlus's website says something about a 2nd run with the cardboard collector's box. Is that to hold two separate Devil Tuna games, or is it meant to hold SMT3 and Devil Tuna?






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"Re(6):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 02:25post reply

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I'm a little confused by the US Devil Tuna release. Is it actually a 2 part game since Atlus's website says something about a 2nd run with the cardboard collector's box. Is that to hold two separate Devil Tuna games, or is it meant to hold SMT3 and Devil Tuna?



It's to hold the two seperate Devil Tuna games.





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"Re(7):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 02:37post reply

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I'm a little confused by the US Devil Tuna release. Is it actually a 2 part game since Atlus's website says something about a 2nd run with the cardboard collector's box. Is that to hold two separate Devil Tuna games, or is it meant to hold SMT3 and Devil Tuna?


It's to hold the two seperate Devil Tuna games.



Sweet thanks. Is there anywhere I can find out more about them? I'm so behind on this one I thought it was only a single game.






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"Re(1):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 06:48post reply

Chaos Field Expanded
Odama
Chibi Robo
Killer 7
Wanda and the Colossus

Giga Wing Gen (Maybe if it turns out good)





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"Re(8):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 07:01post reply

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Sweet thanks. Is there anywhere I can find out more about them? I'm so behind on this one I thought it was only a single game.



What do you want to know?
The only sources I know are me and the Atlus of Japan homepage. The early reviews I read about the game all contained misinformation. I hope that's better now.





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"Re(2):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 08:05post reply

quote:
Odama
Killer 7
Wanda and the Colossus

Ah, add this to my list as well !

And another game : Bga Kykai, a horror porn game. The demo is extremely intriguing.





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"Re(9):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 11:28post reply

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Sweet thanks. Is there anywhere I can find out more about them? I'm so behind on this one I thought it was only a single game.


What do you want to know?
The only sources I know are me and the Atlus of Japan homepage. The early reviews I read about the game all contained misinformation. I hope that's better now.



Anything really I guess. I thought it was simply a single game, so are the two like Persona 2 IS and EP or are they unrelated?

Also I heard it's "Persona-esque" but that might have been early misinformation.






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"Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 11:57post reply

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Anything really I guess. I thought it was simply a single game, so are the two like Persona 2 IS and EP or are they unrelated?

Also I heard it's "Persona-esque" but that might have been early misinformation.


Forgive me if any of this information is a bit flawed. I haven't played the game since I won it and I won it soon after it came out.

It's not like Persona outside of the fact that you have a team of young adults instead of demons. It's more like SMT3's less cool little brother. Fortunately, SMT is SO cool that even the "uncool" brother comes across as pretty awesome.

The battle system uses "points" or whatever you want to call them like SMT3. Actually, everything is like SMT3. You can even switch out characters in battle. You can't recruit or negotiate with demons, however. All you can do to them is consume them (with special attacks) for more AP (or for instant death/healing/whatever). Unlike just about every early preview of it says, you can NOT learn moves from demons by eating them. Actually, eating is more or less a plot device. Every time you beat an enemy you "eat" them and that's how you get AP. There's a point where one character refuses to do so and doesn't get any AP.

The primary system (and use of AP) is the "mantra" system, which you can think of as like a "class" or just "set of skills". There are lots and lots of mantra classes and several levels of each class. So, for example, when you start out, anyone can equip level 1 fire/ice/physical/healing mantra, but cannot equip level 2 until they finish level 1. Each mantra teaches you several skills, some which effect stats and some that give you new techniques. You need however much AP to "buy" a mantra and you learn every skill in that mantra whether you like it or not.

Even though you don't have an immense number of party members (like SMT3) managing skills takes a lot of consideration. All of the characters are different and have different weaknesses. The weaknesses work like they do in SMT3 (you lose a turn), but if you get to the higher level mantra in your opposing element, then you can equip a skill that eliminates that disadvantage.

It's VERY dungeon oriented, just like SMT3, but the cinemas are much more impressive. That is to say, the characters move around a lot, animate well and are fully voice acted. The plot is...hmmm...well, on the surface, it's very basic, but trying to figure out what it's really about is very satisfying. Actually, the first game doesn't even answer all of your questions and ends on a huge cliffhanger...so the 2nd "game" is really just the "second half" of the story. Innocent Sin was complete without Eternal Punishment, but the first AT didn't really complete the storyline.

Uhm...oh, and the music is good. Lots of guitar and very original. It's also pretty challenging at times. Roughly equivalent to SMT3. Actually, I thought that by the end SMT3 had thrown every dirty trick they could at you on bosses, but they had a few new ones in AT that surprised me. One boss, in particular is "smart" enough to do the best possible thing in every situation (it never attacks with something that will be reflected or miss and hammers the weakest character with their weakness until they die) and the last boss, while not difficult, is rather devious.

I hope this helps. I can answer anything else, unless you want me to spoil the plot for you.





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"Re(2):Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 12:24post reply

No thanks a lot that was very informative. I don't want to get spoiled and it's coming out soon so I'll just hold off.

Thanks again!






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"Re(2):Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 12:27post reply

I have a shorter explanation. Avatar Tuner is the love child of SMT3 and FFX. Combat and 'end of the world' type setting from SMT3, characters, story, and other gameplay systems from FFX. Though the main character Serf never speaks, so he's more like a throwback to early mute RPG heroes.

In the end, I did not like it though I was a huge fan of SMT3. I did not like the story, the characters, the reusing of demons from SMT3, the inability to recruit them, and other minor elements. Not that it was a bad game in itself, but it felt inferior to SMT3 in nearly every way.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 13:23post reply

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Not that it was a bad game in itself, but it felt inferior to SMT3 in nearly every way.



Yeah, whether you like the game or not, this is undeniably true.

In my case, I'm just happy with more Megaten. I'm not particularly pumped about the second half, but...if it's like the first, then it won't give me anything to complain about...it just won't rock my world. (well, maybe the music will...?)





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"Re(4):Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 21:20post reply

I have no complaints when it comes to the music or art direction, though some of the new demons were pretty lame. It just left me with that 'watered down wiskey' sort of feeling. Coming off SMT3 though, my expectations were probably too high.





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"Re(1):Games of 2005" , posted Mon 3 Jan 23:59:post reply

Boktai 2 (I know it was released in 2004 but I'm still waiting to get it)
Zelda: Minish Cap
Castlevania DS
Zelda GC
and...
RE4... just for kicks.






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"Re(2):Games of 2005" , posted Tue 4 Jan 02:53post reply

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Castlevania DS

Oh god...





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"Re(3):Games of 2005" , posted Tue 4 Jan 03:03post reply

None. I'll practice my usual habit of "wait for stuff to come out and either randomly buy it or listen to what people say about it and THEN randomly buy it regardless of feedback."





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"Re(4):Games of 2005" , posted Tue 4 Jan 07:29post reply

I am now less excited about Demento now that I know that the character with the big curls in her hair is a woman and not a man.

The new Castlevania looks pretty, though...and I'm surprised (in a good way) to see Soma back again. I've never really liked a Castlevania character before...they're just "icons", but Soma is an icon for men who wear bell-bottoms and that's a step towards sexy in my book.





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"Re(5):Games of 2005" , posted Tue 4 Jan 07:49post reply

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The new Castlevania looks pretty, though...and I'm surprised (in a good way) to see Soma back again.

Me no. I would've preferred to see AoS as an epilogue for the series, I thought it was a rather good way to solve the question of Dracula's immortality and whatnot.

A pity, but given the comment at the end of it, guess it was thought to be this way all along.
Let's see how this one comes out.





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"Re(6):Games of 2005" , posted Tue 4 Jan 08:58post reply

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I would've preferred to see AoS as an epilogue for the series, I thought it was a rather good way to solve the question of Dracula's immortality and whatnot.

A pity, but given the comment at the end of it, guess it was thought to be this way all along.
Let's see how this one comes out.



I bother following Castlevania plot continuity like I do for Rockman or Mario. It seems like it can only lead to stress. Kinda like trying to keep up with all the inconsistancies in Biohazard.





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"Re(7):Games of 2005" , posted Tue 4 Jan 13:48post reply

Devil May Cry 3
Kingdom Hearts 2
Kenju
Jump Superstars
Whatever that Darkstalkers Arcade Game turns out to be
KOF 94 Rebout
Berserk Game by Sammy





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"Re(8):Games of 2005" , posted Tue 4 Jan 16:00post reply

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Devil May Cry 3
Kingdom Hearts 2
Kenju
Jump Superstars
Whatever that Darkstalkers Arcade Game turns out to be
KOF 94 Rebout
Berserk Game by Sammy



The Berserk game's been out for quite a while. Is it coming to America or something? That would be kinda....dumb. Asking for a release over here for a game like that is sort of "selfish" like people who complained when Capcom didn't bring over the PS2 JoJo, which, by all means, needs to stay in Japan.





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"Re(5):Games of 2005" , posted Tue 4 Jan 17:48post reply

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but Soma is an icon for men who wear bell-bottoms and that's a step towards sexy in my book.



agreed, that's why I like him. and his fur collar. I could pull off feathers, I think.

I'm reaaaaaaaally looking forward to castlevania DS, because it looks pretty, and because it's castlevania. I shall play it with the full force of my being. now that I know the SotN composer is putting a few of her songs in it, I'm even more sold than I was before.

I want to work with igarashi on a game. I think that would be fun.





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"Re(9):Games of 2005" , posted Wed 5 Jan 00:16post reply

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The Berserk game's been out for quite a while. Is it coming to America or something? That would be kinda....dumb. Asking for a release over here for a game like that is sort of "selfish" like people who complained when Capcom didn't bring over the PS2 JoJo, which, by all means, needs to stay in Japan.



JoJo Anime started being released in the US... last year. And try finding the volumes in stores with it's poor distribution. The only JoJo we got was the Capcom Games. For Berserk in the US we had the Dreamcast Game, the Anime, the Manga and Action Figures. Releasing the Game here is a fore gone conclusion. Only problem at this point would be massive spoiler... but the Dreamcast Game spoiled lots too. Who knows.





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"Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Wed 5 Jan 01:41post reply

The first part of 2005 is going to be an all ninja girl party with Tenchu Kurenai/Fatal Shadows and the almost forgotten Red Ninja: End of Honor coming out in the US. Tekken 5 is also supposed to hit home consoles around that time but since Kunimitsu, Tekken's resident ninja girl, didn't make the cut that game can go to hell.





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"Re(9):Games of 2005" , posted Wed 5 Jan 04:26:post reply

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Asking for a release over here for a game like that is sort of "selfish" like people who complained when Capcom didn't bring over the PS2 JoJo, which, by all means, needs to stay in Japan.



Was is that bad? I was planning to get the game when capcom said they were going to release it here. But when they canned I was somewhat disapointed





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"Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Wed 5 Jan 10:55:post reply

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Was is that bad? I was planning to get the game when capcom said they were going to release it here. But when they canned I was somewhat disapointed



I heard terrible things about it myself. Not that you should listen to what others say but with me when it comes to importing games, it's something I weigh heavily.





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"Re(2):Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Wed 5 Jan 13:34post reply

I knew what was out and not out, but I just wondered if you were mixed up, since this topic was about upcoming games.

Anyway...

I wrote a review on the Jojo game for Gamefaqs. I think it's thorough enough. It's not a good game, it's just an OK "anime" game. In retrospect, I think I may have been too kind to the game, considering that I only played it for 3 days, then had no desire to ever touch it again. Even if Jojo had a so-so following in America, that would only guarantee so-so sales at BEST...and on the whole, the Jojo following is less than so-so. The game, I guess...is about so-so as well.

The Berserk game...ah...I guess I could write a review on that. It's not a great game. It has great boss fights if you like the series, but the levels are terrible. They come up with ways to make you suffer. Like...finding children, or talking to every townsperson or trash like that for objectives. You don't even have tof ight the enemies and sometimes your trekking from one end of the map to the other takes quite a while. It makes me think "ah, this is what Berserk is about...looking for children for hours. I sure am glad I'm not fighting." People who like the series shouldn't miss the game, though. The renders and character animations are wonderful, despite the occasional (or frequent) pain of poor level design. Anyway, it follows the manga very closely, which is a catch 22, because if you haven't read the manga, the execution is confusing, but if you have, then you've seen it all already. There are quite a few delightful fan services in the game, though...including a completely unecessary, but very appreciated lengthy FMV.





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"Re(3):Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Wed 5 Jan 13:46post reply

Well let's see, for me:

Kingdom Hearts II
New GC Zelda
Final Fantasy XII
NeoGeo Battle Coliseum





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"Re(4):Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Fri 7 Jan 14:28post reply

In no particular order for me it has to be...

Batman Begins- a stealth action Batman game in a year one style story? Hell yeah! I'm sure I'll be let down by it though.

Marvel vs EA- this one I just want to see out of pure curiousity... especially since they've been so tight lipped about it. Def Jam Fight for NY was surprisingly good... don't drop the ball on this one EA.

Destroy All Humans- I liked Under The Skin for the quirky Capcom game that is was... but this looks like it's really taking that same concept... but bringing out a whole lot more innovation.

Wario Ware Touched and Jump All Stars- the reason I got a DS in the first place... I'm sure Nintendo won't let me down.

Star Wars: Republic Commando- I'm sure the PC port of KOTOR 2 will be the Star Wars game to have in '05... but for some reason I like the idea of a Stormtrooper FPS... it seems to have some elements from Metroid Prime with the whole visor thing too.

Of course I'll also be grabbing any game based on an anime I like... so that goes for the new Naruto and One Piece PS2 games.





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"Re(5):Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Wed 12 Jan 06:26post reply

Ah, the more games I learn about, the more I'm interested in them! Some of these games are out already.

Full Metal Alchemist - The buzz is good on this Anime based game for once.

Megaman X 8 - Prolly would of bought it anyway, but the screens are looking really good, and the response it a bit better than X 7, which I liked myself.

Red Ninja - She's hot! Hope the Gameplay's tight.

The New Brave Fencer Musashi Game - Manga Shading? This is BEAUTIFUL! Can't wait!

Zelda the Minish Cap - I thought the premise was stupid, but people are saying it's gonna be better than Oracle of Seasons and Ages! Woot! Woot!

I might get either Full Metal or Zelda the Minish Cap this week. Martin Luther King Day, time to get my game on!





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"Re(6):Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Wed 12 Jan 12:51:post reply

So far, all I really want is Minna Daisuki Katamari Damacy and the Doom 3 expansion pack... there are still a few games left over from fall '04 that I've been thinking about getting, but I'm not sure when I'll be getting those...

And I'm still wanting to get RE4, but that's out today or tomorrow or something.

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"Re(1):Games of 2005" , posted Thu 13 Jan 07:49post reply

So far mine are :

- Kingdom Hearts II (especially now that we know KH: Chain of Memories and some new characters)
- Jump Superstars (even though no one announced my favorite characters like Sanosuke (RK) and Kurama (YYH) yet...)
- Donkey Kong: King of Swing (finally Dixie Kong is coming back!!)





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"Re(1):Games of 2005" , posted Thu 13 Jan 10:22:post reply

Super Robot Wars Original Generation 2, the sequel to my favorite SRW game. Can't wait. Nothing else matters.





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"Re(2):Games of 2005" , posted Thu 13 Jan 14:39post reply

I found out like a day or two ago that there's going to be a new Ico, so I'm going to get that (assuming they didn't manage to screw it up somehow).





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"Re(10):Games of 2005" , posted Thu 13 Jan 16:39post reply

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Well let's see, for me:

Kingdom Hearts II
New GC Zelda
Final Fantasy XII
NeoGeo Battle Coliseum

Well, I think it's now time for me to do my list for the games of 2005.
For me, anything concerning anime and with fighting galore is down with me.And that means, at least, the following:
Naruto:Narutimate Hero 3
The New King Of Fighters
Dragonball GT Budokai
I may even get something cool in Japanese, like DBZ3(the true 100% Jap version of B3) or Naruto Adventure(the RPG action game), but of course, like any other game I may get besides those in the list, it depends if the (extra) features are worth it.Well, I made my contribution to this cool thread.Now, the patience kicks in yet again.Peace out.





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