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Iggy

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"If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 01:06

Cry.

・伝説のエラー部隊
　
　ザ・ロード
　リードエラー、音飛びなどの技を駆使しプレイヤーのスタミナを減少させる。
　
　ザ・スキップ
　イベントを強制スキップしプレイヤーを惑わす。

　ザ・フリーズ
　エラー部隊屈指の強敵。奴の技を食らうと電源リセット以外に
　逃れるすべはない。

　ザ・ノーセーブ
　空き容量のあるなしにかかわらずセーブを阻んでくる厄介な相手。

　ザ・コナミ
　エラー部隊のボス。プレイヤーの攻撃を全て本体のせいにして回避してくる。

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Professor

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MMCafe Owner

"Re(1):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 02:30

quote:
Cry.

・伝説のエラー部隊
　
　ザ・ロード
　リードエラー、音飛びなどの技を駆使しプレイヤーのスタミナを減少させる。
　
　ザ・スキップ
　イベントを強制スキップしプレイヤーを惑わす。

　ザ・フリーズ
　エラー部隊屈指の強敵。奴の技を食らうと電源リセット以外に
　逃れるすべはない。

　ザ・ノーセーブ
　空き容量のあるなしにかかわらずセーブを阻んでくる厄介な相手。

　ザ・コナミ
　エラー部隊のボス。プレイヤーの攻撃を全て本体のせいにして回避してくる。

Jeezus, I just ordered that thing too... OTL

Time Mage

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"Re(1):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 02:36

Can we normal people have an understandable explanation, or is this something that can only be written in Japanese?

Black_hayato
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Regular Customer

"Re(1):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 02:47

Please. What does the above mean? I was going to buy the jp version.

Kikkoken

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"Re(2):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 03:01

quote:
Can we normal people have an understandable explanation, or is this something that can only be written in Japanese?

I guess an English translation would not be apt to render the touch of humour to be found at the 154th line. Too bad.

Iggy

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"Re(1):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 03:16:

quote:
Please. What does the above mean? I was going to buy the jp version.

To make a long story short, the game has many evil powers, amongst which the ability to eventually kill your PS2 if it's not a first gen.
In a way, this is worse than a new MOK-KOS.

And with the brilliant history of Konami's customer service, there's very little chances they ever fix the problems properly.

I didn't think it would be necessary to translate, since this is just for people interested in the japanese version (so fluent enough to play such a game in japanese), but here we go:

The legendary error generals :
　
The Load
The lead error. Uses his powers to make the sound jump or freeze to lower the player's stamina.

The Skip
Automatically skips some events to prevent the player to understand what's happening.

The Freeze
One of the strongest generals. The only way to recover from his attack is to switch the power off.

The No save
Prevents you from saving even if you have enough space in your memory card.

The Konami
The boss of the error generals. Each attack of the player against him will be nullified because "it's not our fault, it's your PS2 which is to blame".

[this message was edited by Iggy on Thu 23 Dec 03:19]

Toxico

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"Re(2):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 03:39

What, do you mean it doesn't kill any dragon quest related save files??

Who said that this was the game of the year XD

See??? He is a God...

CHAZumaru
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"Snake Vs. Worm" , posted Thu 23 Dec 07:06:

Your mission, Raiden, is to neutralize Dead Cell Phone.

メタルギア　シンビャン !

[this message was edited by CHAZumaru on Thu 23 Dec 07:09]

tenguman
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"Re(1):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 11:09

And oh, yeah

quote:
Cry.

・伝説のエラー部隊
　
　ザ・ロード
　リードエラー、音飛びなどの技を駆使しプレイヤーのスタミナを減少させる。
　
　ザ・スキップ
　イベントを強制スキップしプレイヤーを惑わす。

　ザ・フリーズ
　エラー部隊屈指の強敵。奴の技を食らうと電源リセット以外に
　逃れるすべはない。

　ザ・ノーセーブ
　空き容量のあるなしにかかわらずセーブを阻んでくる厄介な相手。

　ザ・コナミ
　エラー部隊のボス。プレイヤーの攻撃を全て本体のせいにして回避してくる。

Iggy > God

「この世に悪があるとすれば、それは人の心だ。」

Professor

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MMCafe Owner

"Re(2):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 12:21:

quote:
Can we normal people have an understandable explanation, or is this something that can only be written in Japanese?

Sorry, I didn't have much time to write yesterday. Anyway, here goes a quick summary:

People that bought MGS3 in Japan are complaining that the game has various issues, mainly concerning the game's loading. And it's not because they have old faulty PS2 consoles. Various people, including users who bought a new PS2 together with the game, are complaining. So there was apparently something that went wrong when Konami pressed the DVDs for the Japanese release.

Issues reported so far are-
- Voices break during the wire communications.
- The noises break on the sounds in the background (birds, grass, etc).
- Loading issues between SEND to the actual conversation
- The game freezes at times, or won't load.
- The movies skips at times.
- Doesn't allow you to save, or fails to save (might be only for PS2 models SCPH-15000)

So people are making fun of the game and summarizing the issues giving them code names like the mercenaries in MGS3. But the worst part, Konami probably won't replace the game judging from their reactions to problems in the past.

Which is really bad, since the game is still on sale in most stores and it's supposed to be the blockbuster title of Xmas.

[this message was edited by Professor on Thu 23 Dec 12:23]

KTallguy

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Gold Customer

"Re(3):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 13:08

quote:

Issues reported so far are-
- Voices break during the wire communications.
- The noises break on the sounds in the background (birds, grass, etc).
- Loading issues between SEND to the actual conversation
- The game freezes at times, or won't load.
- The movies skips at times.
- Doesn't allow you to save, or fails to save (might be only for PS2 models SCPH-15000)

I'm playing on my friends PS2, (beat it last night actually). I only have serious skipping at one part in the game... and then it's a very small part. Other than that, I have skipping in the music whenever I call someone on the codec, like it's reading the disc or something. I've never had it freeze, or anything like that.

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thebigword
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"Re(4):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 13:24:

quote:
Issues reported so far are-
- Voices break during the wire communications.
- The noises break on the sounds in the background (birds, grass, etc).
- Loading issues between SEND to the actual conversation
- The game freezes at times, or won't load.
- The movies skips at times.
- Doesn't allow you to save, or fails to save (might be only for PS2 models SCPH-15000)

these problems exist with the US version, too. I have a first generation Playstation 2, and the new slim PSTwo, and the Voices breaking during the wire communications, the noises breaking on the sounds in the background (birds, grass, etc), and Loading issues between SEND to the actual conversation are all there. If you go to other messege boards like Gamefaqs, this has come up quite a bit.

[this message was edited by thebigword on Thu 23 Dec 13:27]

D`Cloud
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Regular Customer

"Re(3):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 15:09

Issues reported so far are-
- Voices break during the wire communications.

never happened to me (US version)

- The noises break on the sounds in the background (birds, grass, etc).

never happened

- Loading issues between SEND to the actual conversation

yep. this happened alot.. not disturbingly long, but long.

- The game freezes at times, or won't load.

never happened

- The movies skips at times.

nope. mine just paused and continued

- Doesn't allow you to save, or fails to save (might be only for PS2 models SCPH-15000)

never happened

konami should replace the game if it freezes or sound breaks.. i think this is a dvd issue so some dvd may work while some may not.

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Digitalboy
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Occasional Customer

"Re(5):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 15:09

quote:
Issues reported so far are-
- Voices break during the wire communications.
- The noises break on the sounds in the background (birds, grass, etc).
- Loading issues between SEND to the actual conversation
- The game freezes at times, or won't load.
- The movies skips at times.
- Doesn't allow you to save, or fails to save (might be only for PS2 models SCPH-15000)

these problems exist with the US version, too. I have a first generation Playstation 2, and the new slim PSTwo, and the Voices breaking during the wire communications, the noises breaking on the sounds in the background (birds, grass, etc), and Loading issues between SEND to the actual conversation are all there. If you go to other messege boards like Gamefaqs, this has come up quite a bit.

WHEW! I thought I was the only guy in America with this problem...I have been experiencing these problems as well. At first I thought it was because of my Action Replay but then I played it without the AR and I was still experiencing these problems. I have only played this game a few times and now I am hesitant to play because I do not want to kill my PS2 any time soon since I have bought it this past April.

Have you heard? Konami is now making a sub-division of their publishing branch called "Crap-nami." You will never see this label only due to the fact that will deny it's existence if you find any bugs or any crappy games for that manner. But any games that are not up to par will fall underneath this umbrella.

Mozex

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Copper Customer

"Sound skipping on radio calls" , posted Thu 23 Dec 15:32

My PS2 is sick, it won't load some games at all and others only load some of the time.

Often when I make a radio call I can here the read head trying to track to the correct sector and failing, when this happens the background music is sometimes paused breifly(while waiting to load), but I've never had the conversation skip on me.

Be kind to goblins.

KTallguy

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Gold Customer

"Another note about Japanese and US versions" , posted Thu 23 Dec 15:43:

I don't know who's played both so that they can compare. But I've watched videos of the story in English here.

I mainly did this so that I could watch the story in English so I could fully understand some of the more complex cutcenes(particularly the end). However, I was kind of shocked... Volgin and Ocelot's voices are ... well... much better in the Japanese version. Ocelot has MUCH more personality, and Volgin sounds MUCH more menacing. This is not because I can't understand what they are saying(I can), but more that their personalities fully come out on screen. Ocelot especially is much more subtle and sarchastic, and the famous 'hand gesture' fits him better when paired with the Japanese voice, I think.

I don't know if anyone else agrees... just my 2 cents. But yea, but bugs are bugs... none of them have broken the gameplay for me, and for that I'm thankful.

Edit: Clarification

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[this message was edited by KTallguy on Thu 23 Dec 15:55]

Time Mage

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"Re(5):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Thu 23 Dec 19:55

So, at least some of this errors are present in the US release... I hope they fix this issues in the European version: if I buy something for 60€, I'm expecting it to have at least some quality control.

Pollyanna

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"Re(6):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Fri 24 Dec 07:28

Konami is really trying hard to make me hate them this year. It's been so easy to hate Capcom until I played Gyakuten Saiban and so hard to hate Konami, but now the tables are turning.

Ammadeau

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"Re(6):If you bought the Jp version of MGS3" , posted Fri 24 Dec 12:11

quote:
So, at least some of this errors are present in the US release... I hope they fix this issues in the European version: if I buy something for 60€, I'm expecting it to have at least some quality control.

Just wait for MGS3:Solid, which I'm sure is six months away or less.

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Iggy

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