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"A bitter Shinji Mikami?" , posted Sun 25 Aug 13:43post reply


the-magicbox.com, recently unveiled a radio interview with Resident Evil producer, Shinji Mikami. In this radio interview he criticizes Squaresoft and sony for creating "inferior" products. I pasted the whole article below.


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Capcom's Biohazard producer Mikami criticized Sony & Square in a recent radio program interview in Japan.

1. He mentioned that Sony makes their consoles to break to increase their installed base. He said the PS2 is selling so well because many people are buying a second one for replacement.

2. Other than PS2, he mentioned the current PC systems, walkman and Docomo cellphones are also easy to break, he said manufacturers purposely make the systems easier to break, so that customers have to purchase a new one every one or two years.

3. He said he has bought two PlayStation in the past, because the CD lens wore out quickly. When he played Super Robot Taisen on PS, it took one minute to load up each battle, he was so pissed off that he had to get a new PlayStation to play the game.

4. He expressed that Square's Kingdom Hearts is selling so well because of "Aura Purchase", i.e. people buy this game because his/her friends are playing the same game, dispute whether he/she likes the game or not. He said Kingdom Hearts does not deserve the 780,000+ sales, it doesn't worth the 7800 yen price tag.

5. At last he said "Square please forgive me", because he was so angry that Kingdom Hearts has sold a whole lot more than Biohazard on GameCube (both games released at the same time), he thinks Biohazard is a much better quality game, although Kingdom Hearts is not a bad game either.

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It's funny cause I had my ps2 since launch and it still runs fine....Guess i'm lucky...






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"Re(1):A bitter Shinji Mikami?" , posted Sun 25 Aug 13:53post reply


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3. He said he has bought two PlayStation in the past, because the CD lens wore out quickly. When he played Super Robot Taisen on PS, it took one minute to load up each battle, he was so pissed off that he had to get a new PlayStation to play the game.


Maybe he never considered the game actually takes that long to load?

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He said Kingdom Hearts does not deserve the 780,000+ sales, it doesn't worth the 7800 yen price tag.


And RE does?

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5. At last he said "Square please forgive me", because he was so angry that Kingdom Hearts has sold a whole lot more than Biohazard on GameCube (both games released at the same time), he thinks Biohazard is a much better quality game, although Kingdom Hearts is not a bad game either.


Let's see...

Kingdom Hearts = kid-friendly game with Disney/Square characters

Biohazard = mature game with blood and zombies

Gee...I wonder why Kingdom Hearts sold more copies...






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"Re(2):A bitter Shinji Mikami?" , posted Sun 25 Aug 14:25post reply


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5. At last he said "Square please forgive me", because he was so angry that Kingdom Hearts has sold a whole lot more than Biohazard on GameCube (both games released at the same time), he thinks Biohazard is a much better quality game, although Kingdom Hearts is not a bad game either.



That sounds exactly like the parody somethingawful.com did of John Romero when Daikatana tanked.

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Let's see...

Kingdom Hearts = kid-friendly game with Disney/Square characters

Biohazard = mature game with blood and zombies

Gee...I wonder why Kingdom Hearts sold more copies...



Not to mention that the installed base of the PS2 is just a little bigger than that of the Gamecube. I love the RE series, but Mikami only has himself to blame for the low sales. RE is hardly a series people are going to switch system loyalty for and it's not like the PS2 couldn't have handled the new REs.

I read the article before and I don't really understand his point. If Sony creates a low quality product and people have to keep buying systems, doesn’t Sony lose since they're selling the PS2s under cost in order to get more in people's homes?





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"Re(3):A bitter Shinji Mikami?" , posted Sun 25 Aug 14:32post reply


that's wasn't very nice from him!





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"Re(3):A bitter Shinji Mikami?" , posted Sun 25 Aug 14:52:post reply


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Not to mention that the installed base of the PS2 is just a little bigger than that of the Gamecube.



I wouldn't say "just a little bigger"... a LOT bigger would be more appropriate.

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I love the RE series, but Mikami only has himself to blame for the low sales. RE is hardly a series people are going to switch system loyalty for and it's not like the PS2 couldn't have handled the new REs.




I don't really know about that. RE was pretty amazing graphically in GC. I really doubt that RE could have been comparable graphically in PS2. It could probably be done, no doubt... but I think the lack of texture RAM would make the characters look much lower quality.

That, and Capcom was pretty adamant about making exclusive games for each of the game systems out there. You can have a case that Devil May Cry 1 and 2 would easily be better on other systems besides PS2, but I'm sure they will stick with the much larger userbase for that system.

It's admirable that Capcom doesn't try to whore out all their licenses just to try and make a quick buck... because that would mean they will focus on that system alone to build the whole game and graphic engine out of. It's disgusting to see how most companies nowadays are producing most/all of their games for all 3 major platforms, but the GC and XBox versions are majorly watered-down versions built off the PS2 version.

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I read the article before and I don't really understand his point. If Sony creates a low quality product and people have to keep buying systems, doesn’t Sony lose since they're selling the PS2s under cost in order to get more in people's homes?



Technically, yes... since they depend on software sales in general (like all other game system companies) to gain profits. But if you buy a new PS2 because your old one broke, you're stating that you're still willing to support Sony by buying more software titles for that system. Thus, you'd still be giving them money.

My personal thoughts on this, if the article is indeed true from MagicBollocks... Mikami may have said a little too much. A lot of his statements are unfounded and doesn't have much concrete statements to support his claims. It seems apparent that his opinions of Square and Sony are more personal-based than anything.

Also, I liked RE for Gamecube a lot. It was a nice gesture to redo it, and it's pretty much the perfect version IMO. However, it's still... RE 1. Kind of like how Capcom made 5 versions of Street Fighter 2, people lose interest on a series if it's redone so much... no matter how many times you dress it up in newer clothing. And from what I remember, I think this is the 4th incarnation of the original RE.

I think the 2 brand-new Resident Evil/Biohazard games will breathe new life to the series. I'm almost certain it will sell much better than RE1 Gamecube.





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"Re(1):A bitter Shinji Mikami?" , posted Sun 25 Aug 16:17post reply


The really sad thing about his comments is if Kingdom Hearts had been released on the Gamecube and Biohazard Remake had been released on PS2 the outcome would have been favorable for both.

I know how he feels though... I work on a top-selling game that makes it into Amazon's top ten, gets mentioned in the NY Times, is praised by 99% of the people who review it, is picked up for Japanese release, and when I need a new job I just get ignored by every fucking developer in the area.
The game industry is full of jackasses. Not because they were born that way, it's what working in the industry will do to you.





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"Everybody's got one..." , posted Sun 25 Aug 16:48post reply


Counterpoints (yawn):

1. I honestly don't understand the problems seemingly everyone else has with their PS2s. I've had once for almost a year now, and it's never given me any trouble whatsoever. (I've had to replace a number of controllers, but the system itself has held up just fine.)

2. Planned obsolence is as old as captialism. My beef (which I still have, BTW) is that video game technology becomes obsolete so friggin' fast that I regularly have to spend hundreds on a new system, game, and peripherals...to say nothing of the endless variations/editioins/verisons, each of which requires its own hardware. (Anyone who cites the bazillion jillion advantages consoles have over arcades has obviously never had to deal with this.) It's an industry-wide phenomenon; I don't see why any one company should be singled out.

3. Case in point. My family had to shell out another hundred or so for the "dual shock" PSX simply because the old PSX wasn't powerful enough to handle some of our games. This was one case where I think it may have been worth it, since the old PSX was clearly inferior.

4. Console RPGs are the most overrated thing on the planet. (Why the hell do you need a processor designed for the likes of Capcom vs. SNK 2 and CART Fury for still-picture battles and single-character walking animations?) I'm still utterly baffled as to how this was supposedly one of the huge drawbacks of the Dreamcast.

About that "aura" thing...well, I can't speak for anyone else, obviously, but I have never, ever, in my LIFE so much as RENTED a game just because other people loved it. In many cases, I've avoided a game because it had so much hype surrounding it (hello, Grand Theft Auto 3!). I've played a number of these games, and my experience has invariably ranged from kinda enjoyable to horrendously torturous.

5. "Look Darrell, most of the other people on this site have no problem whatsoever with depressing, unreadable stories and unbelievably vulgar criticism, so YOU'RE WRONG!"

"Everyone on this site except you, Darrell, has no problem with massive, impossible cascades of notes, so YOU SUCK!"

"Well, Darrell, you're the ONLY person on this site who hasn't jabbed sharp spikes through his feet, so obviously YOU'RE the weirdo!"

Can you tell that I don't buy popularity as an indicator of quality? One bit?


Look, people, games generate strong emotions. Lord knows I've been there. There's a lot of competition, toes get stepped on, and people complain. Big whoop.





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"Re(3):A bitter Shinji Mikami?" , posted Mon 26 Aug 00:55:post reply


In response to the original article: Good for this guy. I've always thought the Playstation 1 was a crappy system.

If we were a criticism-less society then we'd be a society where there are continual problems and no one says a word or lifts a finger to change things, a.k.a. a society of prison bitches to The Microsoft Gangsters. Criticism as a whole has value and benefit even if some individual criticisms are wrong or if not everyone agrees with an individual criticism.

Too bad the whole interview isn't there so we can see everything that was actually said. Sense it's a short summary instead of a transcript, I can't tell if he's only pissed because his game didn't sell as much as another, or if that's only part of what he's pissed about, or something else.

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If Sony creates a low quality product and people have to keep buying systems, doesn’t Sony lose since they're selling the PS2s under cost in order to get more in people's homes?



In response to the above quote:

Good point. If they're still loosing money on selling new systems, then all that Sony would get out of it is an inflated total of Playstations. They could have an accurate number of Playstations sold, but that number would not include broken unused Playstations. It would not match the number of Playstations on which new games are being bought for and played on. The figure would mislead game developers on the the system's attractiveness; barring that they have better marketing information on user base.

Maybe that's one of the reasons that Playstations were so cheaply made, to reduce the loss Sony would have to take on selling them under costs.






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"A few things I gotta say..." , posted Mon 26 Aug 01:41post reply


1)Never buy a first gen Sony product or any product at all...PERIOD! Chances are there are design flaws in those models...it pays to wait. I got a PSX first gen...it died on me...got a 4th gen model...works wonderful to this day. PS2 first and second gen had problems I waited for the 3rd-4th gen and my system has no problems at all.

I do this for stereo, TV, computer and even car. Anyone who buys a first gen anything should be well aware of the risk of that purchase.

2)While Sony may be getting many sales from people buying another system because the previous was defective may be true a MAJOR part of the PS2 large sales was that it lived up to the hype of the PSX which was a great system and dominated the previous system generation.


3)Mikami appears to be an jealous asshole venting on some issue unrelated to Sony or Square...it seems to be some rant on a tangent...probably mad that KH sold more than BH/RE and he refused to take the blame for making a game on a system with inferior sales to it's competitor and his game was basically a flop in Japan while the other sold like crazy.

4)Kingdom Hearts with the hype or no hype or it's niche gaming or what content is...it is is STILL a fantastic game





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"Re(1):A few things I gotta say..." , posted Mon 26 Aug 02:53post reply


Yah, I never bought a PS1 but ended up with a bad used one, which broke it self. I got a PS2, so late that it was probably not 1st generation, and I've had no problems with the main system.





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"Re(2):A few things I gotta say..." , posted Mon 26 Aug 05:12post reply


I just think it's funny that an executive of a videogame company is acting like one of the kids at the atlus.com boards that think if people like games that are anything more than remotely obscure it’s because they are all sheep and can't think for themselves. It never crosses their mind that the reason for certain levels of popularity is overall quality.





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"Re(4):A bitter Shinji Mikami?" , posted Mon 26 Aug 12:21:post reply


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If we were a criticism-less society then we'd be a society where there are continual problems and no one says a word or lifts a finger to change things, a.k.a. a society of prison bitches to The Microsoft Gangsters. Criticism as a whole has value and benefit even if some individual criticisms are wrong or if not everyone agrees with an individual criticism.



Criticism is worthless if it's not utilized by the party that is criticized. It doesn't matter how much one complains. Sony's yet to prove they can make a durable system the first time around.

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Good point. If they're still loosing money on selling new systems, then all that Sony would get out of it is an inflated total of Playstations. They could have an accurate number of Playstations sold, but that number would not include broken unused Playstations. It would not match the number of Playstations on which new games are being bought for and played on. The figure would mislead game developers on the the system's attractiveness; barring that they have better marketing information on user base.



That doesn't make sense. Maybe 1 out of 10 people (if even that) would have to buy a new PS or PS2 in their lifetime, at best. Most of the time, a PS/PS2 owner wouldn't need to buy another system as long as it's not 1st gen. If every person bought 4 or 5 PS/PS2s, then yes the figures would be inflated. But that's not the case.

The userbase numbers may not be 100% accurate, but I would say the actual ratio of PS2-to-user base would be at least 80% of the estimated figures Sony puts out.

I've bought a PS and PS2, and have never had any problems with them (although I was smart enough not to buy it until a year or two after initial release).





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"Re(3):A few things I gotta say..." , posted Mon 26 Aug 12:27post reply


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I just think it's funny that an executive of a videogame company is acting like one of the kids at the atlus.com boards that think if people like games that are anything more than remotely obscure it’s because they are all sheep and can't think for themselves. It never crosses their mind that the reason for certain levels of popularity is overall quality.



I also find it is funny, in a way, when they do this. It's funny in a similar fashion to when musicians make songs about each other.





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"Re(1):A bitter Shinji Mikami?" , posted Mon 26 Aug 12:43post reply


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the-magicbox.com, recently unveiled a radio interview with Resident Evil producer, Shinji Mikami. In this radio interview he criticizes Squaresoft and sony for creating "inferior" products. I pasted the whole article below.


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Capcom's Biohazard producer Mikami criticized Sony & Square in a recent radio program interview in Japan.

1. He mentioned that Sony makes their consoles to break to increase their installed base. He said the PS2 is selling so well because many people are buying a second one for replacement.

2. Other than PS2, he mentioned the current PC systems, walkman and Docomo cellphones are also easy to break, he said manufacturers purposely make the systems easier to break, so that customers have to purchase a new one every one or two years.

3. He said he has bought two PlayStation in the past, because the CD lens wore out quickly. When he played Super Robot Taisen on PS, it took one minute to load up each battle, he was so pissed off that he had to get a new PlayStation to play the game.

4. He expressed that Square's Kingdom Hearts is selling so well because of "Aura Purchase", i.e. people buy this game because his/her friends are playing the same game, dispute whether he/she likes the game or not. He said Kingdom Hearts does not deserve the 780,000+ sales, it doesn't worth the 7800 yen price tag.

5. At last he said "Square please forgive me", because he was so angry that Kingdom Hearts has sold a whole lot more than Biohazard on GameCube (both games released at the same time), he thinks Biohazard is a much better quality game, although Kingdom Hearts is not a bad game either.

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It's funny cause I had my ps2 since launch and it still runs fine....Guess i'm lucky...



Y'know, I think he's kinda bitter because he's just now realized that he MAY HAVE made a bad decision by putting the Resident Evil games (except RE Online) on the GC. I DO, however, believe what he said about the PS2's breaking and selling good. I've never thought of it that way. Because the PS2 is a great console with great games. If yours broke and you couldn't get it fixed you just might go without one for a while then go buy another one.





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"Re(2):A bitter Shinji Mikami?" , posted Mon 26 Aug 12:46post reply


You have to give him credit though. Anyone that goes out there and bashes Sony these days has got some BALLS! Usually it's someone bashing Microsoft.

I have a new respect for him. NO MORE DISC READ ERRORS!!!!