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Re(7):Legend of Proust or what's in an Iggy
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I'll take some time this week-end to set this entire article on fire and tie Maou in the middle of the blase. But just on this: [QUOTE]Moncrieff, who was Uranian It took me a little while to figure out that this meant a person from the Urals, not a person from Uranus. [/QUOTE] It actually means "from Uranus"! Homose.... Urgh, not the correct word. [i]Men from upper classes sexually exclusively interested in men[/i] (let's just say MsM) in the late XIXth century in France were fighting to find the correct word to identify themselves. It was the time medecine was starting to pathologize them, and they were slowly being re-imagined from "criminals" to "dudes that have something wrong in their heads" (and would end up locked into an asylum instead of a prison), so the need was there. The problem was that the practice itself was not solidified in the way we currently put all MsM in the same "gay" category (which is a problem all by itself, and the same for our current use of the artificial concept of "heterosexuality"). Also all categories despised each other, and refused to be associated with each other. Some were exclusively in a sort of "ancient greek" fantasy and only liked young men in a sort of intellectual formative way (Gide, and his fight to impose the word Pederast), others thought they were women trapped in men's body (but only in that they'd be sexually interested in men, not in the way we'd understand trans women now) like Proust and his favored word "invert", and then you'd have manly men who only liked manly men, like Jean Lorrain (who were interestingly the most looked down upon by the likes of Gide, and seen as brutal, unrefined beasts with no understanding of culture), and also probably many others I forget. Anyhow, esoteric nonsense were all the rage at the end of XIXth century, and that created a renaissance in the art of astrology. Some of it passed into the literary circles, and "Saturnian" and "Uranian" were adopted by poetically-minded MsM as code words to describe themselves. In astrological terms, "Saturnian" personalities would be more moody, lonely and prone to daydream alone (an experience many MsM teenagers at the time probably experienced) while "Uranian" personalities were supposed to be forward thinking, on the forefront of everything, and shunned for being too avant-garde compared to the current state of society. Both words include "loner" aspects, which MsM people of the time thought expressed particularly well a certain area of their experience.
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