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| Nate
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|  "Re(3):Digital Devil Saga Avatar Tuner 2"
, posted Wed 15 Sep 15:40
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As for Persona 3...as much as I would love to see it, I think Atlus would have to decide that they just need the money to do something like that. I'd like them to make a "sucessor" to Persona, though...because Avatar Tuner isn't it.
What do you think they should do for a successor?
I think what didn't work with Tuner is that they eschewed the modern-day Japan setting. That and some of the other elements of the game made it quite different from Persona.
Then again, I think maybe a setting closer to Devil Summoner or Soul Hackers could work. After all, there are connections to Persona characters in both games, as far as I know (moreso in Devil Summoner?).
Either way, whatever the successor to Persona is, I hope it'll get some more respect, because a lot of people trash it after playing a straight MegaTen game. It's still good in its own right, dammit!
I also hope there'll be some kind of successor to Maya Amano's weird-ass fashion sense.
THIS IS DWARF INVASION!
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| Pollyanna 520th Post
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|  "Re(4):Digital Devil Saga Avatar Tuner 2"
, posted Wed 15 Sep 15:58
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What do you think they should do for a successor?
I think what didn't work with Tuner is that they eschewed the modern-day Japan setting. That and some of the other elements of the game made it quite different from Persona.
Then again, I think maybe a setting closer to Devil Summoner or Soul Hackers could work. After all, there are connections to Persona characters in both games, as far as I know (moreso in Devil Summoner?).
Either way, whatever the successor to Persona is, I hope it'll get some more respect, because a lot of people trash it after playing a straight MegaTen game. It's still good in its own right, dammit!
I also hope there'll be some kind of successor to Maya Amano's weird-ass fashion sense.
Avatar Tuner is just another SMT3...so...I'm not sure why people thought it would be the next Persona. When it was announced it was like "it has impressive cinemas and is voice acted" so everyone (me included) thought "Persona!".
I'm not a "real" Megaten fan *rolls eyes* because I like Persona best. I guess, other than the system, what makes Persona is its setting and characters that I can relate to. I liked the characters in SMT3 and Avatar Tuner, but they lacked the depth of the Persona characters and there was really no way I could relate to any of them.
I really like the SMT/AT fight system, but I don't want it to become the norm. If someone asked me what system gave me the best fights, I would, of course, have to say the SMT/AT system...but I just had more fun getting new Persona.
I'm not sure what I'm getting at here...hmmm...
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| Pollyanna 521th Post
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| "Re(6):Digital Devil Saga Avatar Tuner 2" , posted Wed 15 Sep 18:28
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IIRC or if at all, didn't during the interviews of EP's extra disc, didn't they mention something about a more feudal setting [for persona or another megaten spinoff, I don't remember/where did I put that disc...]?
Regardless, that idea is excellent because it would hopefully insure an Arahabaki that isn't some damn robot.
Oh, and because I preordered some tuna, are a large percentage the enemies nakama from SMT3? Or just regulars like Nekomata and the frost brothers? Oh wait, maybe because there is a mouth moving while text is on screen and it is supposedly making a sound similar to human voice, I won't notice any reused things because of that nice architecture.
I remember hearing something like that as well, but I got the idea it was just an idea they were throwing around.
Anyway, yes...most of the demons in AT are recycled SMT nakama. Well, maybe not "most". Maybe it's "half?" They changed Parvati's voice, though...which infuriated me.
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| Pollyanna 522th Post
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|  "Re(7):Digital Devil Saga Avatar Tuner 2"
, posted Thu 16 Sep 00:41
Well, I think a lot of people find Persona "juvenile" because it deals with young characters and life issues, rather than...erm...universal/spiritual issues. Megaten purists are (from my experience) really scary super intellectuals.
As for difficulty...well, Persona was NOT easy, unless you played the American one, which I assume most people here did. Innocent Sin was...erm...sinfully easy, though. Actually, that's the only thing stopping me from saying it's my favorite RPG ever. It was just too damned easy and you didn't have to make NEARLY enough persona. They totally wasted a good system.
Eternal Punishment, on the other hand, hada great system, but didn't have the character and story focus that IS did...AND the music wasn't nearly as good. So I have to say "together, they're the best RPG, but apart, they're flawed."
I'm not one to complain, though...so I'll take as many Avatar Tuners as they throw at me. It was no work of art in any way, but AT was still a good game, regardless of how it fell short of SMT3.
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| Iggy 4532th Post
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| "Re(8):Digital Devil Saga Avatar Tuner 2" , posted Thu 16 Sep 00:46
I carefully try to not point again how the characters of Persona were all more stupid than the other in this thread, because I'm a nice person, so I'll just say that :
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Really? I didn't like her voice at all, but needless to say it was nowhere near Skadi level aweful.
I kinda like Skadi's voice... It went well along with the design. My main grip with Skadi is that she was Skaha's (whose nmae I never managed to learn) evolved form, so I couldn't keep my favourite witch until the end of the game. I should create an über strong Skaha to go along with my überstrong Dyonisos. Fashion team, go !
And since I'm here : 4 classes of chaos XT have been revealed on the Imagine official site, datenshi, yoma, jaryû and akuryô. Very ugly demons here, nobody very interesting (except if you like the succubus) ; maybe the gaki is a little cute.
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| Pollyanna 523th Post
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|  "Re(10):Digital Devil Saga Avatar Tuner 2"
, posted Thu 16 Sep 13:26
Variable Savior: Eternal Punishment was the same. In terms of direct translation, I would also say it's one of the most true localizations I've seen. As for the first Persona...everything about it was made easier, if I recall. The enemies were made weaker, the items cheaper, the experience greater, and yeah...the Snow Queen Path (it's not so much like a subquest, it's like another game) was taken out.
Iggy/anyone else:
As I said before, SMT purists tend to be highly intelligent. I have found this almost without exception. My belief is that, because they are so intelligent, the Persona characters, who are like normal humans, are "stupid" and cannot be related to. Since I am not of abnormally high intelligence, I can relate quite easily to "stupid" characters.
So, I say the same to those who can relate to "stupid" Final Fantasy 7 characters....but the SMT elitists are the true Yosuga here.
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