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Ishmael
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"SF Controller Question"
, posted Wed 8 Sep 11:00
Earlier today I was looking at a display featuring the new SF Controllers for the PS2. Not only was I amused by the most insane packaging I have ever seen for a controller, a close-up look at the controller itself left me with a question. Is the directional pad the same as the one that was used on the ASCII fighting control pads that came out for the DC?
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Noh Agents 39th Post
Rare Customer
"it is"
, posted Wed 8 Sep 12:07:
quote: Earlier today I was looking at a display featuring the new SF Controllers for the PS2. Not only was I amused by the most insane packaging I have ever seen for a controller, a close-up look at the controller itself left me with a question. Is the directional pad the same as the one that was used on the ASCII fighting control pads that came out for the DC?
BUT there was a release of the same controller in Japan for the PS2 around the same time Capcom vs. SNK 2 came out. so it's a re-release of the same controller with some slight modifications and Udon art.
[this message was edited by Noh Agents on Wed 8 Sep 12:29]
Variable Savior 217th Post
Frequent Customer
"ASCII Pad FT2??"
, posted Wed 8 Sep 13:57
So you're saying that this new SF pad is just the PSX version of the ASCII Pad FT2 with SF themed artwork then?? If so, I'll save my money - I've already got two PSX ASCII Pads.
Good lord! Who the hell would play with such a controller?
Never underestimate the power of a crowd of stupid people...
Grave
843th Post
Red Carpet Regular Member+
"Re(1):ASCII Pad FT2??"
, posted Wed 8 Sep 19:07
quote: So you're saying that this new SF pad is just the PSX version of the ASCII Pad FT2 with SF themed artwork then?? If so, I'll save my money - I've already got two PSX ASCII Pads.
Kinda disappointing
The d-pad, at least, on the SF controller website, looks different, looks nicer than the ASCII one. The d-pad was my chief problem with the controller. Also, start and select are moved. I'm going to buy one tomorrow assuming I can find it, so I'll report back about how it is.
deisied 112th Post
Regular Customer
"Re(2):ASCII Pad FT2??"
, posted Wed 8 Sep 20:24
uh how is it disappointing? if for one, you already have a couple pads, and thus don't need another one except just for the case of omg new, and two, it's being released in america, where without importing you'd never see such a thing, how is it really bad at all? Not to mention it seems to be improved slightly, can't see where there's a problem here.
ONSLAUGHT
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"Re(1):Re: freaky..."
, posted Wed 8 Sep 20:57
quote: Good lord! Who the hell would play with such a controller?
Me, of course.
Noh Agents 39th Post
Rare Customer
"Better yet"
, posted Wed 8 Sep 22:19
quote: uh how is it disappointing? if for one, you already have a couple pads, and thus don't need another one except just for the case of omg new, and two, it's being released in america, where without importing you'd never see such a thing, how is it really bad at all? Not to mention it seems to be improved slightly, can't see where there's a problem here.
if you think about just collecting them. leave them in the purty box and place them on your topshelf to collect dust.
Good lord! Who the hell would play with such a controller?
Humored horror fans might, 80's punk fans might -- and in general, it could also add to the decor of some rooms I've been in...
... and is it squishy like the Evil Dead DVD cover? :3
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Variable Savior 218th Post
Frequent Customer
"Re(3):ASCII Pad FT2??""
, posted Thu 9 Sep 06:03
quote: uh how is it disappointing? if for one, you already have a couple pads, and thus don't need another one except just for the case of omg new, and two, it's being released in america, where without importing you'd never see such a thing, how is it really bad at all? Not to mention it seems to be improved slightly, can't see where there's a problem here.
It's disappointing because I was hoping for a decent six button pad not made in the vein of the FT2. I like the ASCII pads well enough (they work great on CvS2 and GGXX) but find that they don't work worth crap on the PS2 KoF games (it won't even register a quarter circle motion). I was hoping that I could get a decent pad to use for 00/01 and the upcoming 02/03 pack - I'm sick of using my default PSX pad.
So while the release of an ASCII-style pad in America is great news for most, for me it was kind of disappointing. Although I will say that reading that the D pad has been changed is somewhat reassuring - I might opt for a purchase if the price is agreeable. I just hope that the new D pad has a longer lifespan that the ASCII versions.
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deisied 119th Post
Regular Customer
"Re(4):ASCII Pad FT2??"
, posted Thu 9 Sep 06:10:
fair enough, it's not like i'm a super arcade purist/vet guy, but it's not like any pad is going to be that reliable with kof anyway, assuming the control wasn't just murdered in the game in the first place (like everyone complains about 2001, though i can do a few things in it i couldn't begin to do before, then again i may have just gotten way better in like two seconds, but whatever, gonna end this giant parentheses now)
i.e./dit: use a stick?
[this message was edited by deisied on Thu 9 Sep 06:12]
Ishmael
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"Re(4):ASCII Pad FT2??"
, posted Thu 9 Sep 07:54
quote: So while the release of an ASCII-style pad in America is great news for most, for me it was kind of disappointing. Although I will say that reading that the D pad has been changed is somewhat reassuring - I might opt for a purchase if the price is agreeable. I just hope that the new D pad has a longer lifespan that the ASCII versions.
That's my main concern about ASCII pads as well. The way the D pad rested on a tiny spindle on the DC pad I once had never struck me as a good design choice for a controller built for something like fighting games. I never thought of myself as having giant meathooks for hands but that ASCII pad seemed to be built for someone with much more delicate digits than mine.
Noh Agents 41th Post
Rare Customer
"can't say"
, posted Thu 9 Sep 08:37
quote: So while the release of an ASCII-style pad in America is great news for most, for me it was kind of disappointing. Although I will say that reading that the D pad has been changed is somewhat reassuring - I might opt for a purchase if the price is agreeable. I just hope that the new D pad has a longer lifespan that the ASCII versions.
That's my main concern about ASCII pads as well. The way the D pad rested on a tiny spindle on the DC pad I once had never struck me as a good design choice for a controller built for something like fighting games. I never thought of myself as having giant meathooks for hands but that ASCII pad seemed to be built for someone with much more delicate digits than mine.
i was planning to buy TWO but i thought about it again. i will never use those controllers so it is pointless for me to possess them. go for the arcade sticks, IMO is better than the 30 dollars that you have to pay for a Udon special controller and will last longer than the Udon. Play-Asia has a great selection of arcade pads. but stay away from the KOF arcade stick not a good choice.
Oroch
710th Post
Red Carpet Regular Member
"Re(1):can't say"
, posted Thu 9 Sep 09:02
quote: So while the release of an ASCII-style pad in America is great news for most, for me it was kind of disappointing. Although I will say that reading that the D pad has been changed is somewhat reassuring - I might opt for a purchase if the price is agreeable. I just hope that the new D pad has a longer lifespan that the ASCII versions.
That's my main concern about ASCII pads as well. The way the D pad rested on a tiny spindle on the DC pad I once had never struck me as a good design choice for a controller built for something like fighting games. I never thought of myself as having giant meathooks for hands but that ASCII pad seemed to be built for someone with much more delicate digits than mine.
i was planning to buy TWO but i thought about it again. i will never use those controllers so it is pointless for me to possess them. go for the arcade sticks, IMO is better than the 30 dollars that you have to pay for a Udon special controller and will last longer than the Udon. Play-Asia has a great selection of arcade pads. but stay away from the KOF arcade stick not a good choice.
are controllers region independent
and could someone suggest a good arcade stick?
真剣勝負
Noh Agents 44th Post
Rare Customer
"let me think about it"
, posted Thu 9 Sep 10:39:
quote: So while the release of an ASCII-style pad in America is great news for most, for me it was kind of disappointing. Although I will say that reading that the D pad has been changed is somewhat reassuring - I might opt for a purchase if the price is agreeable. I just hope that the new D pad has a longer lifespan that the ASCII versions.
That's my main concern about ASCII pads as well. The way the D pad rested on a tiny spindle on the DC pad I once had never struck me as a good design choice for a controller built for something like fighting games. I never thought of myself as having giant meathooks for hands but that ASCII pad seemed to be built for someone with much more delicate digits than mine.
i was planning to buy TWO but i thought about it again. i will never use those controllers so it is pointless for me to possess them. go for the arcade sticks, IMO is better than the 30 dollars that you have to pay for a Udon special controller and will last longer than the Udon. Play-Asia has a great selection of arcade pads. but stay away from the KOF arcade stick not a good choice.
are controllers region independent
and could someone suggest a good arcade stick?
no the region does not matter on ANY controllers. i got both SVC fighter stick and you need to break them in, just as any controllers. check out PLAYASIA.com DAMMIT!
EDIT: X-Arcade pad is also great and they have a life time warranty if your arcade stick goes bust
[this message was edited by Noh Agents on Thu 9 Sep 10:41]
Oroch
711th Post
Red Carpet Regular Member
"Re(1):let me think about it"
, posted Thu 9 Sep 11:24
quote: So while the release of an ASCII-style pad in America is great news for most, for me it was kind of disappointing. Although I will say that reading that the D pad has been changed is somewhat reassuring - I might opt for a purchase if the price is agreeable. I just hope that the new D pad has a longer lifespan that the ASCII versions.
That's my main concern about ASCII pads as well. The way the D pad rested on a tiny spindle on the DC pad I once had never struck me as a good design choice for a controller built for something like fighting games. I never thought of myself as having giant meathooks for hands but that ASCII pad seemed to be built for someone with much more delicate digits than mine.
i was planning to buy TWO but i thought about it again. i will never use those controllers so it is pointless for me to possess them. go for the arcade sticks, IMO is better than the 30 dollars that you have to pay for a Udon special controller and will last longer than the Udon. Play-Asia has a great selection of arcade pads. but stay away from the KOF arcade stick not a good choice.
are controllers region independent
and could someone suggest a good arcade stick?
no the region does not matter on ANY controllers. i got both SVC fighter stick and you need to break them in, just as any controllers. check out PLAYASIA.com DAMMIT!
EDIT: X-Arcade pad is also great and they have a life time warranty if your arcade stick goes bust
, posted Thu 9 Sep 12:09
to me it still looks as it did when it was released in Japan. only SLIGHT differences. the directional pad looks the same and so does the button set up with the EXCEPTION of the start and select.
Hm... anyone care to venture a guess on the rest of the controllers?
I can clearly see Guile's, Cammy's and Vega's (Bison's) Super SFII portraits there. The top right one looks like it could possibly be a SnH Ryu. I guess the bottom left MIGHT be Sagat.
I could only hope they'd make a Sakura controller, but I'm pretty sure it won't happen. :\
deisied 122th Post
Regular Customer
"Re(2):dare to compare"
, posted Thu 9 Sep 14:58
sagat, bison, guile, cammy, and evil ryu i guess. i dunno i guess that other one could be vega/balrog, but i dunno.
Hm... anyone care to venture a guess on the rest of the controllers?
I can clearly see Guile's, Cammy's and Vega's (Bison's) Super SFII portraits there. The top right one looks like it could possibly be a SnH Ryu. I guess the bottom left MIGHT be Sagat.
I could only hope they'd make a Sakura controller, but I'm pretty sure it won't happen. :\
why? so you can watch her kick high?
you pedo
真剣勝負
deisied 124th Post
Regular Customer
"Re(3):dare to compare"
, posted Thu 9 Sep 15:35
pedophile isn't a descriptive term at mmcafe
Maou
318th Post
Bronze Customer
"Re(4):dare to compare"
, posted Thu 9 Sep 15:39
quote: pedophile isn't a descriptive term at mmcafe
, posted Thu 9 Sep 17:11
People have supposedly had these in their possession, but online stores say the 16th and nobody around me has them, so... blah. I was looking forward to trying one of these out. Guess I have to wait a bit longer.
deisied 126th Post
Regular Customer
"Re(7):dare to compare"
, posted Thu 9 Sep 17:40
the 16th now? jeeesus.
hm, no one even really pretends to have a date too much, lik-sang and the like.
hikarutilmitt 241th Post
Frequent Customer
"Re(3):dare to compare"
, posted Thu 9 Sep 18:12
quote:why? so you can watch her kick high?
you pedo
So be it. :)
sushi_bunny
317th Post
Bronze Customer
"The SF controllers were sturdy.."
, posted Thu 9 Sep 23:27
Hey,
I think Luisinan and Isaw them there at Comic - Con, but I hadn't seen one plugged into a ps2, but I thought they were pretty nice. They are vinyl, and kinda sturdy. I kinda thought it was better than the old HORI pads for psx a long time ago, because they were too stiff.
cheers,
sushi
CrazyMax
374th Post
Silver Customer
"Re(1):The SF controllers were sturdy.."
, posted Fri 10 Sep 18:45
I am not a big fan of the joystick thus far.
The presentation is very good, the packaging first rate, it does make you want to leave it in it's unopened case. It includes an 'instructional' manual that flips to be a Udon comic. The comic is a literal reprint of some issues after #6, I have no idea which ones since to me the story hasn't been that memorable. But the reprint is a straight reprint so much that it has an editor's note in the last story referring to the 'last issue'. But with little explanation, it doesn't really make you want to go get any other issues. I did think it was interesting that the ad for the trade had a different Shinkiro cover than the ones at Blockbuster's.
I think I am just not used to the joystick, so I'm having a little difficulty getting the response I take for granted at the arcades. Also the default controls of the game do NOT match the joysticks, so you have to set them. They are different for each game.
Did get the Akuma which like I said in the packaging looks very sharp. Will have to put more time in the game with the joystick though. Unfortunately, Burnout 3 is calling and it kicks waaaayyyyy to much ass!
Grave
846th Post
Red Carpet Regular Member+
"Re(2):The SF controllers were sturdy.."
, posted Fri 10 Sep 18:58
quote:Also the default controls of the game do NOT match the joysticks, so you have to set them. They are different for each game.
Unsurprising. I initially rejected SFAC's R1 HP and R2 HK because I was used to HP on the left trigger and HK on the right. However, once you get used to it, it's a lot easier. However, the fact that their SF pad wasn't designed for the most recent version of SF's controls is... well, odd.
I bought a Pelican Real Arcade stick tonight, because I figure it's less trouble than building a stick when it has PS2 and Xbox cables included. I'm going to get a decent stick and buttons to drop in the base once I get settled at school. Should turn out well.
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