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| Iggy 4234th Post
 
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|  "Neogeo battle colloseum"
, posted Fri 27 Aug 15:18:
I missed the picture, the uploader is already down, but...
Actually, some guy pretended to have the next Famitsu, with a picture of BC, then said  . It was obviously a fake.
Then some guy said he had a copy of the next Arcadia, then said OTZ . It is credible enough for me to copipe what he said ; if it's a lie, then it's extremely unfair. How can you trick people with AA ?
It's a tag match, you change character at will. The character not on screen replains energy. The bars are Nowave, which mean ugly.
【Original characters】 Hero, Heroin (it's going to be another KOF ?)
【KOF】 K'
【Gar?】 Terry (MOW), Geese
【Samurai】Nakoruru
【Gekka】 Washizuka
【else】Marco (MS)
【background】
Ralf/Leona/clark/Eiji/Kain/Grant/freeman
Marki(some guy in FF? I don't see who...), Kuroko, Bob, Carol, Rocky(Robo Army), Cathy, Anp&Yusa(Cool Cool Toon... So the title is already flawed, they don't use only Neo Geo games).
That smell... it's the conjunction of the smell of CFJ and SvC after it was released... that smell... it's....
I think I'd better look where I stored the unko AA.
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| beto 607th Post
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| "Re(2):Neogeo battle colloseum" , posted Sat 28 Aug 12:49:
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Also, from the shilouettes, it looks like we'll probably see Fio as a hidden character?
Those are supposed to be the all-new characters.
And maybe it´s just the scan, but those sprites do look sharper/cleaner than before. I´ve compared them side-by-side with NeoWave images, and they seem less jaggy.
Mai and Marco are also (obviously) sharper than everybody else, but they don´t seem to stick out like, say, Shiki in SVC.
The roster looks great, so far. Mai and Terry were obvious choices, and at least they made it better by giving Mai a new sprite and Terry his 2003 style.
Nako will most likely play differently from SS. K´ wasn´t in CVS, CVS2 or SVC. Washizuka was a very nice surprise. Marco is awesome.
Geese is the only negative so far, and that because he´s over-exposed, not because he´s a bad character.
Backgrounds are by far the best i´ve seen in a 2D fighting game, kicking CVS1´s ass. Fan-service is great all-around (Kuroko!).
I was terribly afraid of GG-style sprites, and hoping for something like a sharper SF3, Garou or KOF.
I hope the system is good. Tagging is fine as long as they don´t go nuts like MVC. The hitboxes/contact in NeoWave seems old-style, so i hope this one will be too. I like 2003, but i think that engine should be kept in the KOF series.
I would like if this game was just straight, no-bullshit fighting (yes, i know there´s tagging). Stuff like GCFS is risky... I think taking chances in KOF is better, considering it´s a yearly series. A dreammatch is a one-time event, they should be more careful... Full-blown Garou-style would be nice.
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| NARUTO 2565th Post
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| "Re(3):Neogeo battle colloseum" , posted Sat 28 Aug 13:23
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Also, from the shilouettes, it looks like we'll probably see Fio as a hidden character?
Those are supposed to be the all-new characters.
In fatc it's even write, Original characters...^^
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The roster looks great, so far. Mai and Terry were obvious choices, and at least they made it better by giving Mai a new sprite and Terry his 2003 style.
Nako will most likely play differently from SS. K´ wasn´t in CVS, CVS2 or SVC. Washizuka was a very nice surprise. Marco is awesome.
Geese is the only negative so far, and that because he´s over-exposed, not because he´s a bad character.
Agree. It could have been worst with Kyo/Iori and character like Jenjuro oe earthquake who would have been SvC port...
At least Geese Raging storm is different than the one in SvC.
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Backgrounds are by far the best i´ve seen in a 2D fighting game, kicking CVS1´s ass. Fan-service is great all-around (Kuroko!).
Once again STRONGLY agree!!
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I was terribly afraid of GG-style sprites, and hoping for something like a sharper SF3, Garou or KOF.
that was my fear too..
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I hope the system is good. Tagging is fine as long as they don´t go nuts like MVC. The hitboxes/contact in NeoWave seems old-style, so i hope this one will be too.
Well why not IMO a limited tag a la Kizuna encounter would be perfect, but well I'll wait to play it first before crying.
I would like to Add that IMO if you look close to the Characters face near life bar they look really close to the KOF 2002 in game art.
OT now!
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| snkneoshingo2k3
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| "Re(1):Neogeo battle colloseum" , posted Sat 28 Aug 22:47
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I missed the picture, the uploader is already down, but...
Actually, some guy pretended to have the next Famitsu, with a picture of BC, then said . It was obviously a fake.
Then some guy said he had a copy of the next Arcadia, then said OTZ . It is credible enough for me to copipe what he said ; if it's a lie, then it's extremely unfair. How can you trick people with AA ?
It's a tag match, you change character at will. The character not on screen replains energy. The bars are Nowave, which mean ugly.
【Original characters】 Hero, Heroin (it's going to be another KOF ?)
【KOF】 K'
【Gar?】 Terry (MOW), Geese
【Samurai】Nakoruru
【Gekka】 Washizuka
【else】Marco (MS)
【background】
Ralf/Leona/clark/Eiji/Kain/Grant/freeman
Marki(some guy in FF? I don't see who...), Kuroko, Bob, Carol, Rocky(Robo Army), Cathy, Anp&Yusa(Cool Cool Toon... So the title is already flawed, they don't use only Neo Geo games).
That smell... it's the conjunction of the smell of CFJ and SvC after it was released... that smell... it's....
I think I'd better look where I stored the unko AA.
Well, this game is surely the coolest looking Taisen Kakutou Game I've ever seen in my life.For the rest though, we'll start to get some answers in a few days' time at the AM show.BTW, does anyone think that just like the Professor said, we may finally see starting from Thursday, something concrete on The King Of Fighters 2004? I mean if the new KOF would look like this, then it could easily be da bomb.Even THE ONE(not just fighting, but looking cool).See y'all later.
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| Dante
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| "Re(1):..." , posted Sun 29 Aug 09:19
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I love how you people say "oh yes, the roster is more interesting than the one in CFJ!", "My god, this lineup of characters blows up the CFJ crap!", "I already forgot about that CFJ game, this new SNK got me excited!".
Seriously people, this is ridiculous, how can you forget a game that you haven't played yet??
Why can't we love both games? We are starving for fighters for god's sake, we should be grateful for having several 2D fighters coming up.
CFJ really isn't a game, it's a collage of things we can play already. There isn't even any adaption and SF3 characters are down a super art. Am I going to buy a game for Ingrid and to be able to play Warzard plus Hauzer and Nool? I think not.
Wouldn't be so bad if you could use the different play systems, but you can't. Inbalanced, inconsistent, no effort, but the roster rocks IMO. I really can't reward that.
On the other hand. NBC is shaping up nicely and it looks as if there won't be too many characters from KOF.
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| Grahf
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| "Re(7):is that you final answer?" , posted Sun 29 Aug 22:38
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uh that's what cfj does, and what that guy up there was complaining about, relatively validly. honestly that's pretty exceedingly boring kinda, just go play them in their own game then.
I dunno, in a way I'd rather play a character the same way I have before than have them tweaked to fit some generic playing style. Example: I would much prefer that Yun and Chun-Li have played more like their SF3 selves in CvS2 (Ryu, Ken, and Akuma as well, for that matter). It's different than just playing their own game because you're fighting different characters on different backgrounds to different music, etc.
Obviously there's a benefit to having old characters play in a new way, because it's new (although not as new as an original character). But characters that come from games with very distinct gameplay (Samurai Showdown, for example) often suffer when they have to be changed to fit in a game they weren't designed to be in. So I guess my point is that I'd rather have a character play the same old way than a crappy new way. Also, I don't want Alex to change.
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| snkneoshingo2k3
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| "Re(5):Neogeo battle colloseum" , posted Sun 29 Aug 23:05:
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I mean if the new KOF would look like this, then it could easily be da bomb.Even THE ONE(not just fighting, but looking cool).See y'all later.
hole-lee cow. i never thought of the next King of Fighters as the "ONE." until you brought it up. it makes sense, great characters, excellent controls, and now excellent graphic sprites. i think i will have to buy adult diapers before seeing the screenshots for playing the next KOF. better yet if there is a KOF 2004.
Thanks for the consideration man, but because you're a newbie, you didn't know about Shingo "THE ONE" Yabuki.But anyhow just like you said, better hope it will be so.Catch you later.
d'oh
Well, there are already some surprises in this NeoGeo Battle Coliseum.While Terry Bogard is in his best version, the 2k3 one, K' apparently isn't? I hope that when we'll get more on the roster probably right at the beginning of the AM show on Thursday, the picture should start to get more clearer.And for the record, if you guys think about bringing in The One, bring forward his 2k3 version, that kicks ass!
PS What I mean as in 2k3 version is not graphics-wise, but moves-wise.Hope that cleared it up.Later.
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| Iggy 4298th Post
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| "Re(1):I'm old, I have no hopes" , posted Mon 30 Aug 18:44
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For example let's say that you meet someone that can play DS and suck at every capcom game (sorry Iggy, I had to use the example), in that case you'll be able to meet his skill with your invincible Guile + Zangief team.
Oh, don't worry for me.
I think if they manage to have the SF2 characters powerful, not overpowered, and fun to play, they may succeed in making many people who left the 2D fighting scene back for the game. It's something a game filled with zany subsystem like every new game will surely completely fail to accomplish.
My personal grips with CFJ are : if they only have only 21 characters, it sucks ; the SF3 character don't play exactly like in their games since they don't have red parries, and Pharaoh has been replaced by a vile impersonator again. But actually, if the 2 last are for balance purpose and the 1st one is improved in the 3-4 month they have between the last beta test and the release, hell, we'll see then.
But Colloseum sure looks nice. I just don't want to put my hopes too high with this company, that's it. betrayed 4 times, not 5.
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| Spoon 575th Post
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| "Re(2):I'm old, I have no hopes" , posted Mon 30 Aug 20:49
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For example let's say that you meet someone that can play DS and suck at every capcom game (sorry Iggy, I had to use the example), in that case you'll be able to meet his skill with your invincible Guile + Zangief team.
Oh, don't worry for me.
I think if they manage to have the SF2 characters powerful, not overpowered, and fun to play, they may succeed in making many people who left the 2D fighting scene back for the game. It's something a game filled with zany subsystem like every new game will surely completely fail to accomplish.
My personal grips with CFJ are : if they only have only 21 characters, it sucks ; the SF3 character don't play exactly like in their games since they don't have red parries, and Pharaoh has been replaced by a vile impersonator again. But actually, if the 2 last are for balance purpose and the 1st one is improved in the 3-4 month they have between the last beta test and the release, hell, we'll see then.
But Colloseum sure looks nice. I just don't want to put my hopes too high with this company, that's it. betrayed 4 times, not 5.
I just hope that the DS people aren't able to pushblock escape from anything the SF2 people throw at them. That wouldn't be very fun.
Just imagine it: runaway DS. I thought that was supposed to be an oxymoron.
But that's just hearsay. I'll wait for the game itself to cast judgement.
KOF2k2: Let's not forget that while it may have played alright and had some characters very well animated in places (Kim ate King...), it also had the dubious qualities of being ugly both musically and visually. I remember my good SNK games looking AND sounding good, however well they played.
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| Victor
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| "Re(3):I'm old, I have no hopes" , posted Mon 30 Aug 21:03
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But Colloseum sure looks nice. I just don't want to put my hopes too high with this company, that's it. betrayed 4 times, not 5.
Faith?? Hope?? I'm sorry Iggy, but let's look at our history lessons...
What where the last fun and balanced games on the MVS -> SS games and KoF 2002...
Where they SNK? -> No
What WAS the last fun balanced SNK game?? -> Hard to tell if either it was Garou or Last Blade 2. Year -> more than 5 years ago....
So, considering this what I'm truly looking foward on this game is to have an excellent 'library' game, completely messy and unbalanced; maybe fun to play alone, but with an extraordinary cast that will most likely won't show up again.
I'm sorry to sound pichy and negative but I lost faith on SNK the moment they began focusing on KoF, and for the record the last SNK game that I completely worshiped was from 96...
I just hope that just one time fate proves me wrong and we get to see a neat game...
obscene voodoo dance teleport
Samsho balanced? Lastblade 2 balanced?
......Yea. I'd ask for you to send me the copies of these games that you have been playing, but I'm pretty sure my Imaginobull 2000 console hasn't worked in years.
I tripped over one of the controller wires and ripped the whole thing right off of the tv. I swear they should'nt have made them that color pink.
Makes it hard to see them with those glasses on.
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| NARUTO 2588th Post
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| "Re(5):I'm old, I have no hopes" , posted Tue 31 Aug 01:30
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SS0S is definitely balanced. Where have you been? And when the hell did I say LB2 was balanced? No comment on your jokes.
It's no you Phoenix but Papa Mono who said that LB2 is balanced and the game is at the moment you learn how to play it. (Of course Kouryu is out of the picture).
PAPA MONO!!!!! YOU MISERABLE UNFAITHFULL ONE!!!! you should have faith on SNK at every moment!
OK Sadly KOF is become their main horse, and they forget some good series like GAROU, Kizuna E, AOF (even if I didn't really well know this one only have tried characters of those games). And yes some KOF were bad IMO 2000 are the last good KOF since 01/02 sucks and 2003 Isn't bad but not as good as 96/2000 edition.
IMO I have high hopes for NG-BC, not for a marvelous game sysytem pushed to the wazoo,( even if it would be really nice!) but more for a chance to play with an really original cast, and even new faces. (2 at least).
this game remind me KOF 94 when he who out, a senseless game whit many characters just for fun, and IMO the fact that KOF turns storyline oriented isn't a problem since if each year they pull out OR a Good KOF with uber nice characters, sharp system and story OR a new NG-BC game with funny things in it just for fun it would be nice. And me a happy man!^^
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| Iggy 4302th Post
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| "Re(3):I'm old, I have no hopes" , posted Tue 31 Aug 01:40
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Faith?? Hope?? I'm sorry Iggy, but let's look at our history lessons...
I think that's kinda what I was saying, no ?
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What WAS the last fun balanced SNK game?? -> Hard to tell if either it was Garou or Last Blade 2. Year -> more than 5 years ago....
Hum... Last Blade 2 had these infinites all over the place, and Garô had Kevin... But anyways, I don't care that much about balance, but about fun. And SvC, in spite of having a great cast and me having a heart big enough to like the backgrounds and not be bothered by the music, can't have fun with this stupid system and that GODAWFUL controls. The other betrayals of SNKP can be KOF 2003, or the ports of 02 on PS2, the censorship of SS0S and the way it was hidden, the port of SS0 so late SS0S was already by the end of its life in the arcades when it came out, NW itself, the card system in it...
There are plenty of reasons to have some grudge against this company.
 (Sarara... where are you...)
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| Iggy 4306th Post
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| "Re(5):I'm old, I have no hopes" , posted Tue 31 Aug 02:07
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that's what I'm curious to know about, like I've said before, I home the card system to be useless for NG-BC. If they wish hidden characters or such, makes some codes or a time release system.
The card system is loathed by everyone, absolutely everyone, but it gives bucks to SNKP/Sammy, so I'm afraid they'll continue with it.
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And Iggy what have you agaisnt Kevin??? his a nice guy! Of course he got that Dm you can pull out twince in a row but.....you're mean...that's it!
Yeah, yeah, he's nice for sure... And it's not like I had played MOTW enough to have been fed up with him.
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| DarkZero 898th Post
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| "Re(6):I'm old, I have no hopes" , posted Tue 31 Aug 02:40
Question:
In this picture, who is the character in the background that is in the top row, second from the right? The screenshot to the left of Kain, where Geese is getting smacked around. It's too difficult to see from such a small picture, so I'm assuming that I'm supposed to know who it is from the caption... but I can't read Japanese.
Also, many thanks to SNKP for their choices of screenshots. Since the characters in the background are always a good indicator of who won't be in the game, it's nice that almost every screenshot shows a different background character. Too bad about the choices, though. I liked Kain and Gato a lot, even though they were too overpowered to play, and Freeman was one of my best "Okay, you've kicked me around long enough, it's time to end your winning streak" characters in MOTW.
Here's hoping that we see Hotaru, Shigen, Jenet, or some other second-tier Garou/LB2 characters. And please, please God, keep Akari out of the game. I can't take that shit again. I really can't.
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| NARUTO 2597th Post
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| "DarkZero..." , posted Tue 31 Aug 02:47
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Question:
who is the character in the background that is in the top row, second from the right?
I was curious too at the beginning but my weak japanese knowledge have answered for me.
Eiji Kisaragi it seems...
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Also, many thanks to SNKP for their choices of screenshots. Since the characters in the background are always a good indicator of who won't be in the game, it's nice that almost every screenshot shows a different background character. Too bad about the choices, though.
Agree too that! IMO Kuruko would have been a very good hidden character to play with same for Eiji or some other
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I liked Kain and Gato a lot, even though they were too overpowered to play, and Freeman was one of my best "Okay, you've kicked me around long enough, it's time to end your winning streak" characters in MOTW.
I agree once again Grant and Freeman are my fav in MOTW with Jennet at least she still can be in.
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Here's hoping that we see Hotaru, Shigen, Jenet, or some other second-tier Garou/LB2 characters. And please, please God, keep Akari out of the game. I can't take that shit again. I really can't.
Why?? Akari is a nice little girl!! as for Shigen and jennet I fallow you...
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| Pollyanna 467th Post
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|  "Re(6):I'm old, I have no hopes"
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But... After 02 arcade or DC, you can't find these controls good, can you ?
Plus the issues of the PS2 version of 02 aren't just for me, I think.
I can't say. I haven't played '02 on PS2 or DC. '01 on PS2 was a little "funny", but no big deal. I've never had troubles on arcade versions. It may be that I'm not "advanced enough" and that I would find difficulties if I tried complex combos or something, but as far as simply doing the moves/simple combos, I have no trouble.
I would believe the controls aren't as good as before, but certainly not awful. I'm sure you're not making this up, though...I just don't get it.
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| DarkZero 899th Post
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| "Re(1):DarkZero..." , posted Tue 31 Aug 04:53
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Here's hoping that we see Hotaru, Shigen, Jenet, or some other second-tier Garou/LB2 characters. And please, please God, keep Akari out of the game. I can't take that shit again. I really can't.
Why?? Akari is a nice little girl!! as for Shigen and jennet I fallow you...
Once a character's attacks get any whackier than those of Hotaru, Athena, or any of the other magical girls, I start to get pissed off. Akari and Hokutomaru both teleport wildly around the screen, use overhead attacks that may or may not be unblockable depending on whether or not you're a half-centimeter to the right or the left, and are, quite simply, too damn small. I don't mind full-size teleporters like Zantetsu or midgets like Choi, but once you combine midgets and teleportation, I have to cut my character's move list in half and get a four leaf clover and a rosary out every time I block an attack.
Then again, the worst part about them is that they interrupt the nice, even flow of well-balanced (barring tournament-ruining infinites and such) games like MOTW and Last Blade 2. They're completely unlike all of the other characters and they just don't work as well. But if Marco's going to be whipping out a Metal Slug and going to town on Nakoruru's face with it, maybe Akari would fit right in.
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| NARUTO 2603th Post
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| "Re(3):DarkZero..." , posted Tue 31 Aug 12:27
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I think Akari is just fine, and you can deflect her out of her teleports, anyway... (out of the bouncy bits, I mean)
Well small or teleport characters were never a problem forme...And akari is a nice little girl she can not be like that.
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Edit: Although come to think of it, you probably wouldn't be able to in this... Ah well, I'd still like to see her in it, although I'd prefer to see Juzo.
No that Juzo is a bad character, far from it, but from LAst blade I wish to see some character who asks for a minimum of practice, like Amano for exemple.
as for Juzo he would be fine team-ed with Gandara!!!
Well Iggy I hope that Marco have some gun moves, I wish to see a DM where he truns Fat with huge projectile. Mwahahaha!!!!
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| Iggy 4376th Post
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| "1 character / game ?" , posted Thu 2 Sep 13:20:
Random thought... Are they trying to limit each game to one character ?
If we except the FF (maybe one by game ? Kim and Tung seem to be considered from Real Bout / special...) we have 1 character for :
KOF, World Heroes, Samurai spirits 2D, Agressor of dark combat (Fûma made a cameo in this, right?) Last Blade, and Samurai 3D... (and MOTW)
I think they MAY be following something. If so, we can kiss goodbye to Rasputin, Mudman or Captain Kid, to anyone else from Last Blade or SS (even Shiki/Assquake or Masupi) but wait some CRAZY things. They are hinting KOTM, if they plan to go with characters from sports games... (and I still wait G Mantle)
EDIT : And we still need someone from Buriki one and Ryûkô (hopefully no Sakazaki).
If no kyokugen character and neither Kyô nor Iori appears in the game, I will call this company Imoyatan from now on.
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"Re(7):Re(10):Neogeo battle colloseum" 
"when?" 
"phone check" 
"Re(1):Marchello Rossi, i love your punch!!!" 
Best site EVER: 
"is that you final answer?" 
"Re(3):..." 
"Re(2):I hope. . ." 
Yay, cautious pessimism! XD <insert 2ch Mona-kitty with 2 thumbs up here, I can't do ASCII art ;_;> 
"Re(4):I'm old, I have no hopes" 
which I had some difficulty with on a pad, but not on a joystick.
"Re(10):DarkZero..." 
"They won't escape alive ;P"