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Zepy
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"RPG Maker XP"
, posted Mon 26 Jul 07:56
Post made for those few people that use RPG maker.
RPG Maker XP just came out a few days ago. This time you can finally have high resolution/full colour graphics! And OGG sound! No limit to character and map chip sizes! You can directly program your own scripts! Variable transparencies in battle animations! Map layers increased from 2 to 3! No more limits on types of chip you can use! You can even encrypt your game now so nobody can open your files in rpg maker and tinker with your stuff. Plus with the triple map layers, you can have cloud or fog overlays! Like DQ6.(I think it was?)
BUT. A lot of all the stuff that had been made for 2000 can no longer be used. People without any knowledge of making use of PNG might have troubles now that the program supports all channel/full colour PNGs. And the scripting language is written in RUBY. You got to understand that.
HOWEVER. The biggest flaw is that the program needs to periodically register itself online, or you can't use the program.
Demo can be found here. Lots of limitations though. But enough to see the new features.
It might be heavy on the processor too, both for the maker and the player. But there's mixed reactions from that. Some find it fast, others find it really slow.
, posted Mon 26 Jul 08:56
You know it's going to take the hackers about 3 weeks to pirate this? Right?
Other than that, it looks really neat, I'm just hoping they fixed the biggest flaw (the really limited battle system).
So...how about those...things....
Ammadeau
1055th Post
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"Re(1):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Mon 26 Jul 10:38:
It's finally high resolution? Yay! It has to register itself online? Boo.
Any copy protection only hurts the people who actually buy the thing. When are companies going to learn that? Pirates crack the copy protection, sometimes even before the retail copy comes out.
Tried it and overall it looks great, but the combat is even duller visually than it was before. They should have some animation there at least.
[this message was edited by Ammadeau on Mon 26 Jul 10:44]
Pollyanna
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"Re(2):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Mon 26 Jul 13:24
What if you don't have the internet? .... .... .... ....
It COULD happen!
Anyway, from what I've read, the program sounds like a pain unless you really know what you're doing. It's a shame, because I'd like to make an RPG that doesn't look kinda...sloppy and that I could incorporate my own art/photos/whatever from without them being messed up. But...this is a dumb thing for me to say. I'm working for a game company on an RPG, why would I want to do this? I suck at programming anyway.
Juan
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"Re(3):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Mon 26 Jul 13:45:
I hope there's enough complaining so they reconsider this lame phone home caca. I wouldnt mind paying the ridiculous amount of money they are asking for if they got rid of the former and made and engrish translation.
[this message was edited by Juan on Mon 26 Jul 13:50]
Pollyanna
348th Post
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"Re(4):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Mon 26 Jul 15:06:
quote: Put that on your tag already.
I hate tags....except your tag, but I have no idea what it's from.
Anyway, I'm sorry if I somehow came across as pompous. I didn't realize that I mentioned that more than once before. I'll never bring it up again, though I think in the context of an RPG MAKER topic, it's at least relevant.
[this message was edited by Pollyanna on Mon 26 Jul 15:09]
Iggy
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"Re(5):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Mon 26 Jul 15:15
quote:Anyway, I'm sorry if I somehow came across as pompous. I didn't realize that I mentioned that more than once before.
I don't think it's what Juan meant, was it ? He kills cats, he can't be that bad of a puppy.
, posted Mon 26 Jul 16:33
Juan is love. Fear not for your cat food.
CrazyMike
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"Re(7):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Mon 26 Jul 20:17
The problem with all these RPG Maker's is they are cool and all, but I never found myself willing to dedicate the time and effort to make a game when very few people will probably play it and there is no money to be made
Henaki 161th Post
Regular Customer
"Re(8):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Mon 26 Jul 20:34
quote: The problem with all these RPG Maker's is they are cool and all, but I never found myself willing to dedicate the time and effort to make a game when very few people will probably play it and there is no money to be made
I just like to fuck around with it :) Generally I don't use it to actually finish an RPG, I just like throwing down random ideas for fun, and seeing how they work.
So...how about those...things....
Ammadeau
1055th Post
Red Carpet Premium Member
"Re(9):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Mon 26 Jul 21:06
I made a complete and short game once. Pretty fun to do if you only want something that will last a couple hours. Some people have made massive epics, but I don't have the time or patience for that.
Gojira
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"Re(8):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Tue 27 Jul 00:56
Ugh, you probably can't answer all of these but I'll ask them anyway because I'm kupo for kupo nuts and I can't download the demo from here
What is RUBY? Does it use english characters at least? Was there any word about global battle events? Is the dynamic memory allocation for all importable elements or just certain things? For instance how many pictures can you load? (RPGM2K capped it at 50, which isn't much) Can MP3s or CDA be used for music now or is it still just MIDIs?
quote: The problem with all these RPG Maker's is they are cool and all, but I never found myself willing to dedicate the time and effort to make a game when very few people will probably play it and there is no money to be made
I never understood the need to call these titles "games", and give them "gamer complaints". By itself it's not a game; it's just a tool. People don't complain about MS Word because they don't have the time and desire to write a 200-page novel, or complain about Painter because they don't want to spend lots of time drawing.
And it's good practice for logic tables and design ideas. I made a non-interactive fighting engine with RPGM2K, with limited success. (Too bad I can't just copy it to another project though... hence one of the many important uses of a scripting language)
AIM: Gorojira
Pollyanna
349th Post
Bronze Customer
"Re(9):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Tue 27 Jul 01:14
quote: Can MP3s or CDA be used for music now or is it still just MIDIs?
You could use MP3s in 2K3 as well as Wavs. With a lot of fanagling I think you could even do it in 2K, but it's available by default in 2K3. If they took that away, it would be idiotic...though it wouldn't surprise me.
Zepy
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"Re(9):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Tue 27 Jul 04:37:
quote:What is RUBY? Does it use english characters at least? Was there any word about global battle events? Is the dynamic memory allocation for all importable elements or just certain things? For instance how many pictures can you load? (RPGM2K capped it at 50, which isn't much) Can MP3s or CDA be used for music now or is it still just MIDIs?
I'm unable to answer the rest of your questions because it's been too long since I used rpg maker and I no longer know how to use it.
[this message was edited by Zepy on Tue 27 Jul 04:43]
TeirusuCSS 111th Post
Regular Customer
"Re(10):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Tue 27 Jul 07:16
This would have been pretty cool if they hadn't thrown away RM2K3's more visual ATB-ish system. As it stands I'll stick with 2K3.
Cats? I much prefer foxes.
Ammadeau
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"Re(2):Re(10):RPG Maker XP"
, posted Tue 27 Jul 07:42
quote: This would have been pretty cool if they hadn't thrown away RM2K3's more visual ATB-ish system. As it stands I'll stick with 2K3.
The way basically everything seems coded in RUBY, you could add it. Or if you don't, someone else might.
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