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| Dr Baghead 3118th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):I have lost all hope for good DC movies"
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EDIT: I HATE Warner Brothers now. First they cancel Angel in the middle of the season when it was there 2nd highest rated show and now this...
I will stop wearing my Green Lantern shirts if this actually gets made.
Okay, maybe I'm an idiot but I could actually see this working... MAYBE
Remember the episode of Duck Dodgers called "the Green Loonter"... that was great, I could see the movie working like that... the ring goes to Earth and is ment for Hal Jordan, but some random shlub finds it, uses it for wacky mischief then the rest of the GL Corp all playing it serious shows up looking to get Jordan to help them stop Sinestro, they find Jack being stupid, decide there's no time to loose and take him anyway, blah blah blah, Jack saves the day when the other Lanterns are in danger, they thank him and take the ring and give it to Jordan... THE END!
Of course it'll be something completely, or maybe it'll die before getting of the ground just like Vin Diseal as the Flash, Sandra Bullock/the Lady from 3rd Rock as Wonder Woman, and of course every single Superman attempt over the last 10 years...
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the next Batman Movie will suck (A Japanese Ra's Al Ghoul? Are you even trying?)
I'm really tired of that kind of talk from comic fans, how does an actor's race effect their acting ablities?!
Ra's Al Ghoul may have an arabic name, but his nationality has never actually been disclosed... Ken Watanabe doesn't look like Ra's, but I'm sure he has everything else needed for the part and besides:
RUMORED MAJOR POSSIBLE SPOILER:
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
It's rumored Liam Neson is really Ra's Al Ghoul along and Watanabe is just a decoy, so Ra's might be European instead of Japanese anyway
End of Spoiler
there's better things to hate a movie based on then whether or not an actor matches the preconcieved notion of what the character looks like.
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Jude Law is in the running to play the Joker in the next Batman movie after Begins, YAY! I thought he would make an excellent Joker and I hope he gets the part... of course then fanboys will complain the Joker isn't British (or is he?! you don't know where he's from or who he is!)
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Actually, I changed my mind, a jokey GL movie is stupid, GL could be a cool military sci-fi drama movie... a jokey hero movie, if DC really needs one, should star Aquaman... just have him wonder around and be useless, talk to fish, watch people burn up in flaming bulidings being all like "WHOA! I'm *AQUA*man... I think you want like, Firestorm or someone to save your baby, ma'am!"
yeah it's not funny but the naked chick tag was getting annoying.
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| Omar 367th Post
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|  "Re(2):I have lost all hope for good DC movies"
, posted Fri 16 Jul 13:19:
I totally agree with you Dr. As long as they do their job right, almost everything else is meaningless.
Like, for instance, Jessica Alba as Sue Storm in the (Ultimate) Fantastic Four movie. Let's see first how that one goes before people start "OMG SHE'S LATIN SO OBVIOUSLY SHE SUCKS AT ACTING LIKE AN AMERICAN BLONDE".
BTW, that Batman Begins movie looks great so far. I actually agree with the casting, all of them. There's a draft of the script somewhere on the net and it looks kick ass so far (only read the first 25 pages, didn't want to spoil myself more)
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the next Batman Movie will suck (A Japanese Ra's Al Ghoul? Are you even trying?)
I'm really tired of that kind of talk from comic fans, how does an actor's race effect their acting ablities?!
Ra's Al Ghoul may have an arabic name, but his nationality has never actually been disclosed... Ken Watanabe doesn't look like Ra's, but I'm sure he has everything else needed for the part and besides:
RUMORED MAJOR POSSIBLE SPOILER:
there's better things to hate a movie based on then whether or not an actor matches the preconcieved notion of what the character looks like.
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| Cain Highwind 424th Post
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| "Re(2):I have lost all hope for good DC movies" , posted Fri 16 Jul 13:52
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a jokey hero movie, if DC really needs one, should star Aquaman... just have him wonder around and be useless, talk to fish, watch people burn up in flaming bulidings being all like "WHOA! I'm *AQUA*man... I think you want like, Firestorm or someone to save your baby, ma'am!"
"I'm Aquaman, but you can call me, HANDSOME GUY!"
Sorry, I've been playing MMAC.
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Alba is Hot, Sue is Hot, who cares? The Movie is all about Doom anyway. Even the director of the FF Movie acknwledged this in Wizard an issue or two ago.
Damn straight! I still don't know who could play a good Doctor Doom in a live action movie. I thought Tim Curry doing his voice in the cartoon ruled.
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| Hungrywolf 2886th Post
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| "Re(2):I have lost all hope for good DC movies" , posted Fri 16 Jul 16:56
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Okay, maybe I'm an idiot but I could actually see this working... MAYBE
Remember the episode of Duck Dodgers called "the Green Loonter"... that was great, I could see the movie working like that... the ring goes to Earth and is ment for Hal Jordan, but some random shlub finds it, uses it for wacky mischief then the rest of the GL Corp all playing it serious shows up looking to get Jordan to help them stop Sinestro, they find Jack being stupid, decide there's no time to loose and take him anyway, blah blah blah, Jack saves the day when the other Lanterns are in danger, they thank him and take the ring and give it to Jordan... THE END!
Okay, you are an idiot. Just kidding. I see what you mean, but Green Lantern is just as serious as Batman and Superman and should be taken as such. It's no comedy. I think it'd even be cool if they did a Green Lantern/Green Arrow movie.
Actually, Black is supposed to be Kyle Rayner, which he cannot possibly be! I'm an actor, I could be Kyle. Of course since the script is probably gonna suck I'd refuse. Green Lantern is one of my favorites, he can't be done injustice like this.
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| Dr Baghead 3121th Post
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| "In brighest day, in JACK BLACKest night?!?!" , posted Fri 16 Jul 20:10
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Sue Storm will not carry FF. I don't care. Now if someone gets Louie Anderson to play Dr. Doom than I will get pissed.
Alba is Hot, Sue is Hot, who cares? The Movie is all about Doom anyway. Even the director of the FF Movie acknwledged this in Wizard an issue or two ago.
Ray Liotta is the front runner to be Doom right now... I've got no opinion on that since if the movie is a 'comedy' yeah, I could Liotta yelling and scream in a metal mask working... but it boogles my mind someone said "you know who should be Doom... Tommy Vercetti!" and meant it.
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Watanabe as Ra's -
Wrong Age
Wrong Build
Wrong Jaw
Wrong Race
WB says, "Oh, but both are from the continent of Asia! They must be alike!" Wrong, wrong, wrong. WB doesn't give a crap so they can say, "Also starring Watanabe from the last Samurai!"
okay, you're right they wanted to say "and last Samurai's Ken Watanabe as Ra's Al Ghoul" since they worked over time to get him to sign...
and I'll give you his jaw is wrong, but his bulid doesn't seem that off and the Lazarus Pit could always be keeping him young in the movie universe (it did de-age Bruce Wayne in BB anyway so why not here?)... and I'll agree on wrong race since Ra's is clearly European/Middle Eastern, but I think it's a valid change... Ra's is supposed to be a 'complex' character who isn't 'good' or 'evil' but something in between, and because of the level of stupid a lot of Americans have they're likely to see Middle Eastener=Evil and nothing else, so it's best to go to the next most 'mystical' type of people and make him Asian
...Plus Ra's sword fights, Watanabe sword fights, makes sense enough to me. (assuming there's a sword fighting sceen in the movie!)
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Okay, you are an idiot. Just kidding. I see what you mean, but Green Lantern is just as serious as Batman and Superman and should be taken as such. It's no comedy. I think it'd even be cool if they did a Green Lantern/Green Arrow movie.
Actually, Black is supposed to be Kyle Rayner, which he cannot possibly be! I'm an actor, I could be Kyle. Of course since the script is probably gonna suck I'd refuse. Green Lantern is one of my favorites, he can't be done injustice like this.
you're shitting me!!! He's Rayner?! Forget what I said, even if they make the movie like the silly little plot outline I did there's no fucking way that's going to work... I mean anyone can use a GL ring! make up a name and it could work! but making him a real GL is stupid...
I guess DC heard Fantastic Four is going to be 'comdeic' and decided to sacrafice GL as a counter (although I'm serious, a comedy based on Aquaman and his sucking would be terrific!... hell they could even do a pretty good 'comedy' that doesn't defame a character by using the Wally West Flash as characterized in the JL cartoon [not played by Black of course] there's no reason to make a 'real' GL movie a comedy)
PS: do you like the subject line? I think it would be a good (read: attempt at humor that fails) tag-line for the Green Lantern movie!
yeah it's not funny but the naked chick tag was getting annoying.
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| Omar 367th Post
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|  "Re(4):I have lost all hope for good DC movies"
, posted Fri 16 Jul 23:13
So getting an Oscar nominated actor for beloved comic book vilian seems wrong because he doesn't look like his comic book character?
OMG HE IS THE WRONG RACE AND HIS JAW IS DIFFERENT!!1%1!
You know, Michael Keaton doesn't look like Bruce Wayne, heck, he is smaller, and way older yet he has been so far the best Batman we have seen on the big screen (sorry Adam West heh) And not just that, he is a comedian!
And WB not even trying...have you seen the cast? the whole list? Gary Oldman? Micheal Caine? Liam Neeson? Go see the cast yourself (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372784/) and then think if they are trying.
And with that, ends my participation in this topic. Later.
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Watanabe as Ra's -
Wrong Age
Wrong Build
Wrong Jaw
Wrong Race
WB says, "Oh, but both are from the continent of Asia! They must be alike!" Wrong, wrong, wrong. WB doesn't give a crap so they can say, "Also starring Watanabe from the last Samurai!"
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| Sano 900th Post
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| "Re(5):I have lost all hope for good DC movies" , posted Sat 17 Jul 17:42
I hated the first Batman Movie, but for the time that it came out it was OK and the only decent Batman Hollywood Movie ever made. Didn't have much to do with Michael Keaton who I think is still a very very very wrong choice to play Batman. Keaton's a wimp. They had to put Muscles on his costume. At the very least, don't show the guy later on with a T-Shirt and in a robe for christ's sake. Batman is supposed to look like a dark version of Superman so he would need just about the same build as say, a Christopher Reeve or so, and in the current crop of Hollywood Skeletons, you're just not gonna find it so you have to go for an unknown.
The biggest issues I have with the first Batman Movie is Tim Burton. He admits he doesn't read Comic Books. I'm sorry WTF are you doing making a Batman Movie if you don't read the comics?
Second, Batman is killing people and not only is he killing people HE HAS GUNS ON THE BATMOBILE. Batman would NEVER use a gun. Why do you think he uses Batarangs and such in the first place? A gun robbed him of his family. You really do not understand Batman if you have him with guns on the Batmobile.
Third, the Joker. Instead of using his real origin from Killing Joke they turned him into a two bit thug you shouldn't pity for one second. And he's the killer of Batman's parents at that which could only end in Joker dying in the hands of Batman. Oi vey... Do you know why people loved Doc Ock in Spidey 2? Because you could sympathize with him on some levels. The same thing could of been done with the Joker who OWNS Doc Ock as a villain but no.
Now, for the cast of the new Batman Movie. And yes, I know the parts so no need for me to go look at that Website.
Christain Bale as Batman - WB's getting better, I still don't see him as Bats, but he might pull it off.
Gary Oldman as Jim Gordon - WHAT? Oldman can act, but a whopping 90% of his rolls are that of villains. This is just the WB putting another big name on the Movie to a part that could be played by an unknown or a little known Actor and they are going to have to give Oldman big bucks, stuff that could of gone into special effects.
Michael Caine as Alfred - Oh, poor Elder British Actors. They can't even land roles in Hollwood flicks like Austin Powers 3 because this Academy Award winner keeps taking Roles that are BENEATH him. Geez, Caine as Alfred? How stereotypical can you get? Another actor WB will have to pay big bucks to when they should get an unknown for this part no one cares about when this Money could of gone to special effects. Sigh.
Fear not, a good Batman Movie does exist! It's called 'Dead End' and features Batman fighting the Joker, Aliens, and Predator. (Perform an Online Search for it, you should find this Movie relativly easy. If not, let me know.) The Movie was made to teach the WB how to make Batman Movies. Did they learn their lesson? I fear not.
And as far as WB/DC Movies go, they made two of the best - Superman 1 and Superman 2. I hold the WB to the high standard of these Movies. No way they can touch Marvel Movies.
WB/DC - Better Cartoons
Marvel - Better Live Action Movies
- That's how I see it.
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| Dr Baghead 3125th Post
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| "Re(6):I have lost all hope for good DC movies" , posted Sat 17 Jul 19:47
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I hated the first Batman Movie, but for the time that it came out it was OK and the only decent Batman Hollywood Movie ever made. Didn't have much to do with Michael Keaton who I think is still a very very very wrong choice to play Batman. Keaton's a wimp. They had to put Muscles on his costume. At the very least, don't show the guy later on with a T-Shirt and in a robe for christ's sake. Batman is supposed to look like a dark version of Superman so he would need just about the same build as say, a Christopher Reeve or so, and in the current crop of Hollywood Skeletons, you're just not gonna find it so you have to go for an unknown.
Remember on Tiny Toons when Plucky went to Hollywood and he was a valle at a fancy resteraunt and a giant muscular Batman pulled up in the Batmobile, then Plucky asked if he would like to check his coat and he unzipped himself and a dumpy little Micheal Keaton stepped out? HAHAHA! It's funny because he was a duck AND green!
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The biggest issues I have with the first Batman Movie is Tim Burton. He admits he doesn't read Comic Books. I'm sorry WTF are you doing making a Batman Movie if you don't read the comics?
remember the whole 'contraversy' where he 'stole' the ending of planet of the apes (the shitty remake!) from a Jay and Silent Bob comic and he said "I don't read comics... and I'd never read ANYTHING written by Kevin Smith!" but Kevin Smith wrote the draft of the Superman Lives script when Tim was directing it! LOLOLOLOL!!! He doesn't read what he directs! (and aside from Edward Scissorhands and Beatlejuice he's not a very good director... Sleepy Hollow's okay but it's no great shakes and none of his other stuff is worth watching either)
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Second, Batman is killing people and not only is he killing people HE HAS GUNS ON THE BATMOBILE. Batman would NEVER use a gun. Why do you think he uses Batarangs and such in the first place? A gun robbed him of his family. You really do not understand Batman if you have him with guns on the Batmobile.
"Rubber bullets... I swear!"-Batman, DKR on the subject of a Batmobile mounted gatling gun
do you know for a fact his guns in the movie shot lead bullets?
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Third, the Joker. Instead of using his real origin from Killing Joke they turned him into a two bit thug you shouldn't pity for one second. And he's the killer of Batman's parents at that which could only end in Joker dying in the hands of Batman. Oi vey... Do you know why people loved Doc Ock in Spidey 2? Because you could sympathize with him on some levels. The same thing could of been done with the Joker who OWNS Doc Ock as a villain but no.
yeah, Joker sucked too 1960's not even... you know, good charactization...
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Now, for the cast of the new Batman Movie. And yes, I know the parts so no need for me to go look at that Website.
Christain Bale as Batman - WB's getting better, I still don't see him as Bats, but he might pull it off.
who do you see as Bats then? not "an unknown" but the type of person you think should play him... discribe!
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Gary Oldman as Jim Gordon - WHAT? Oldman can act, but a whopping 90% of his rolls are that of villains. This is just the WB putting another big name on the Movie to a part that could be played by an unknown or a little known Actor and they are going to have to give Oldman big bucks, stuff that could of gone into special effects.
poor Oldman, type cast as a villian and not a character actor
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Michael Caine as Alfred - Oh, poor Elder British Actors. They can't even land roles in Hollwood flicks like Austin Powers 3 because this Academy Award winner keeps taking Roles that are BENEATH him. Geez, Caine as Alfred? How stereotypical can you get? Another actor WB will have to pay big bucks to when they should get an unknown for this part no one cares about when this Money could of gone to special effects. Sigh.
at least they didn't go with Hopkins
so what's your view on Neeson and Murphy? Scarecrow actually has more screen time then Ra's according to early script reports so maybe you should decide based on Cillian Murphy rather then Ken Watanabe if the movie will suck.
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Fear not, a good Batman Movie does exist! It's called 'Dead End' and features Batman fighting the Joker, Aliens, and Predator. (Perform an Online Search for it, you should find this Movie relativly easy. If not, let me know.) The Movie was made to teach the WB how to make Batman Movies. Did they learn their lesson? I fear not.
yeah I've seen Dead End... the best part is the Joker costume! that's the coolest idea for the Joker ever... I don't think it's that great a movie though, especially to teach the WB what they're doing wrong they should have made the movie Batman Vs Batman Villians to do that, not some crazy BvAvP crap... although maybe the WB enjoyed the movie since it's rumored the trailer is being pushed back from I,Robot/Catwoman to AvP... LOL! we'll get to see Batman then Aliens and Predator just like in Dead End!
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And as far as WB/DC Movies go, they made two of the best - Superman 1 and Superman 2. I hold the WB to the high standard of these Movies. No way they can touch Marvel Movies.
I don't like Superman
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WB/DC - Better Cartoons
Marvel - Better Live Action Movies
- That's how I see it.
Because you're not giving them a chance... remember it wasn't until Spider-man Marvel had a good movie (or was it X-Men? I forgot which came first) they've had a bus load of stinkers too... Fantastic Four, Captain America, BOTH Punishers...
the only reason DC has better cartoons is because the creators know the characters... and without knowing the storyline to Batman Begins you don't know it's going to suck, remember movies aren't comics... comics are just visual a movie needs more then 'looking like the character' to work
yeah it's not funny but the naked chick tag was getting annoying.
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| Omar 368th Post
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| "X3 dead? Superman?" , posted Sun 18 Jul 12:21
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Actually, it all started with Blade
Wich was written by David S. Goyer, who wrote the script for Batman Begins. :D
Oh, what the heck, I said i would not post more, but this is worth it.
As long as we are beliving AICN, here's something new from them...
http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=17972
"As of Today, the deals for Bryan Singer, Michael Dougherty & Dan Harris have been closed to helm & write from scratch the new SUPERMAN film. This is the X2 team. The team that made, arguably the best of the Marvel Films (arguable only because Raimi nailed the hell out of SPIDER-MAN 2).
The J.J. Abrams script has been completely tossed out. Not of shred of it will remain. That McG ordered SUPERMAN cybersuit (Brilliant Ideas From Mr Hot Wheels, eh?) that Stan Winston's brilliant craftsmen were paid zillions to create is GONE! Today, long time sources like Frosty Skywalker, Sir Etch-A-Sketch and Sir Magnadoodle... those last two have been in the hallways of Warners for the better part of the past decade... and have access to every room. Frosty wrote to tell me that Bryan was signed, and that LOGAN'S RUN and X3 were now dead. While the first part of that is true... LOGAN'S RUN and X3 are not dead. The word from the halls of Warner Bros is that LOGAN'S RUN will be the film that Bryan Singer will make immediately after the Man Of Steel lands in theaters near us all. HOWEVER - if you begin talking to spies at Fox in Tom Rothman's offices and adjoining offices... X3 will be made after SUPERMAN by Singer, or Fox will leave him behind and continue forward with a new director."
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| Hungrywolf 2889th Post
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| "Re(1):X3 dead? Superman?" , posted Sun 18 Jul 21:21
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Actually, it all started with Blade
Wich was written by David S. Goyer, who wrote the script for Batman Begins. :D
Oh, what the heck, I said i would not post more, but this is worth it.
As long as we are beliving AICN, here's something new from them...
http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=17972
"As of Today, the deals for Bryan Singer, Michael Dougherty & Dan Harris have been closed to helm & write from scratch the new SUPERMAN film. This is the X2 team. The team that made, arguably the best of the Marvel Films (arguable only because Raimi nailed the hell out of SPIDER-MAN 2).
The J.J. Abrams script has been completely tossed out. Not of shred of it will remain. That McG ordered SUPERMAN cybersuit (Brilliant Ideas From Mr Hot Wheels, eh?) that Stan Winston's brilliant craftsmen were paid zillions to create is GONE! Today, long time sources like Frosty Skywalker, Sir Etch-A-Sketch and Sir Magnadoodle... those last two have been in the hallways of Warners for the better part of the past decade... and have access to every room. Frosty wrote to tell me that Bryan was signed, and that LOGAN'S RUN and X3 were now dead. While the first part of that is true... LOGAN'S RUN and X3 are not dead. The word from the halls of Warner Bros is that LOGAN'S RUN will be the film that Bryan Singer will make immediately after the Man Of Steel lands in theaters near us all. HOWEVER - if you begin talking to spies at Fox in Tom Rothman's offices and adjoining offices... X3 will be made after SUPERMAN by Singer, or Fox will leave him behind and continue forward with a new director."
Either way, X3 isn't dead, though I think Singer could possibly do a good job on Superman. Better than McG.
Baghead, you don't like the first Superman movie?
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| Dr Baghead 3129th Post
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| "Re(2):X3 dead? Superman?" , posted Sun 18 Jul 21:28
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Either way, X3 isn't dead, though I think Singer could possibly do a good job on Superman. Better than McG.
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I hope X3 has Sabretooth, Toad, Beast, and Nightcrawler! They should cut Mystique instead of more/new mutants if the reason Beast has been cut twice is because she takes to long to make up...
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Singer would make a better director then McG... but I'd still like to see Shamalan's take on Superman, it'd either be really good (he's a huge comic fan) or good, but not really fitting of the character (a la Burton's Batmans)
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Baghead, you don't like the first Superman movie?
No, I said I don't like Superman meaning over all... what I've seen of the movie isn't bad, although since I've not seen it begining to end I've no right to say "I liked/disliked it"
yeah it's not funny but the naked chick tag was getting annoying.
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| MrWhitefolks
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| "Re(5):X3 dead? Superman?" , posted Mon 19 Jul 00:59
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this is THE Xmen2 team that made X2 the superhero movie to beat until Superman2 came out.
You mean Spider-man 2? Personally I've liked M. Night's stuff a lot so far, especially Signs. But I don't know what you are talking about about a reshoot so I'm sure you have a good valid point.
Why don't you like Supes, baghead? To each his own. I like Superman. I would advise you to rent the Superman movie on DVD then, since it's an extended version and watch it from beginning to end. It's good. There are some interesting screen tests and stuff on it too.
lol i r teh typ0 mast3r.
yeah, long story short; the village script got leaked to the net...and got bashed SEVERELY for having like 4 twist endings right after each other. word gets out and the next thing you know, m night busts out a reshoot.
and as far as signs go...if you find me an alien race that has the technology to transverse space and time to take over earth, why the fuck didnt they have a scout squad to find out that 80% of both the planet, and it's main species are made up of the ONLY thing that can kill them?
and after finding out what kills them, the whole scene in the rainforest was just fucking retarded(sorta like how lucas said all the SW's were written together, but luke kisses leia in the first movie...yeah...think about that one for a minute).
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| Dr Baghead 3130th Post
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| "Re(6):X3 dead? Superman?" , posted Mon 19 Jul 11:15
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by god i REALLY hope you're not talking about mr m night everymovieimakehasalameasstwistending shyamalan. dude is surrounded by a "comfort zone" of people that never tell him anything he does is retarded and that almost completely ruined that film The Village(and had to do a reshoot).
Yes I am talking about M.Night (who I don't think is that bad of a director, yeah the twist endings are getting old but Sixth Sense still scares the shit out of me so it gets bonus points for effort) and the Village (and I'll even say Signs although I liked it) is retarded, yeah... but Unbreakable wasn't that bad, both 'twisted' worked out well in that, and a Superman movie *could* have fit rather well into a similar model, the only problem is he probably would have really been Superman but rather M.Night's version of what Superman would be like.
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Why don't you like Supes, baghead? To each his own. I like Superman. I would advise you to rent the Superman movie on DVD then, since it's an extended version and watch it from beginning to end. It's good. There are some interesting screen tests and stuff on it too.
I don't like Golden/Silver Age Superman... I'm starting to like him a little more now that they've given him self loathing/self doubt issues but I'm still not a fan
(adds Superman 1 and 2 to his Netflix list) but I'll watch the movies anyway.
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I don't like this. I really wanted to see a complete X-Men trilogy by the same director.
Aren't X3 and X4 going to be filmed back to back? so techincally even if Singer did stay on you wouldn't be getting a 'triology' by him anyway!
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I still don't see what's so much crazier or wackier about it. Your idea of a "better" outfit looks just as stupid to me. Goggles, full-body suit, LOL. GO GO POWER RANGER!
The comicbook costume is crazy and wacky in the same was the X-Men/Daredevil movie costumes are crazy and wacky sure it's still stupid to have someone wear a leather body suit, but it bets the alternative (and how are goggles Power Rangery? googles would still allow for facial emotions to come through... no one called Doc Oc a 'power rangers villian' like they did GG anyway)
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and as far as signs go...if you find me an alien race that has the technology to transverse space and time to take over earth, why the fuck didnt they have a scout squad to find out that 80% of both the planet, and it's main species are made up of the ONLY thing that can kill them?
the Irkens! (hey, you don't know for a fact M.Night isn't a HUGE Vasquez fan and the whole movie an homage to Invader Zim... I mean, yeah...)
We eat salt... salt contains both Sodium and Chorline... both of which will kill humans in their natural form, but as salt it's harmless! (unless you eat too much) we don't know the aliens can't handle water if it's mixed into blood and organs, I mean they weren't here to take over... they wanted to eat us... and even if the water in humans is leathal to them, maybe they try to avoid it by dry aging or smoking the meat or something, and what little water is left provides them with a buzz, like why people eat Fugu! (of course, I'm doing what should NEVER have to be done... making up excuses for a plot over sight)
yeah it's not funny but the naked chick tag was getting annoying.
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| Hungrywolf 2892th Post
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| "Re(1):Leave Superman alone..." , posted Mon 19 Jul 16:06:
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Really, leave it alone... that's what these guys should be doing. Superman of the 70's with Christopher Reeve is one of the definitive superhero movies ever made. Why bother doing another one? I don't think anyone can fell Reeve's shoes, except maybe for the Smallville guy who plays Clark. Hell, he looks so much like Reeve!
But still, how can anyone do a Superman film that continues the series started by Reeve? How? Maybe if the Smallville guy is in it (he is the closest match to Reeve).
Personally, I would try to avoid treading old ground. Singer should work on another movie that is NOT Superman or X-men related. Something new. Hell, a Wolverine movie if need be... just don't tread old ground.
I think there needs to be another Superman movie. At the moment Marvel is churning out at least one superhero movie a year if not more. Some are good (Spiderman and Spidey 2, X-men, X2) and some are not as good (Hulk, Daredevil (though I loved it more than Spidey 1, but I'm talking overall opinion), and The Punisher (the new one that I liked, but a lot of people didn't)) but the movies are doing well enough no matter what and a lot more are on the way.
DC needs a new Superman movie if they want to capitalize on the superhero success right now because Superman is there #1 hero. He isn't my favorite DC character, but I can't deny that. Superman, Batman (who is getting a new movie), and Wonder Woman are there big three.
I do think a new Superman movie should start over though and not continue from the old movies, like the new Batman (unfortunately I have seen it referred to as a sequel though by some sources). I also think that Welling would be an excellent choice to portray Superman in the movies (especially after seeing the Alex Ross renderings of Tom Welling as Superman). However, if they don't get Welling, then they should get an unknown that can pull it off.
DC movies are always done by WB though so that will be the downfall, if the kind of stupidity like on the GL movie (which I pray to God gets changed or pulled, he's close to my favorite DC character, at least the Hal Jordan GL is, and I'd hate for GL to become a joke.)
Another unfortunate thing about Superman though is the last I heard, they were trying to make a costume for him that, well, I'll just say wouldn't be true to the comic at all. Superman is NEVER successful with a costume other than his classic one. I heard something about foam rubber... In any case, let's hope that with Singer on board all that will change.
Let's also hope some mistakes from the original films are changed... Like Superman jumping out of a window and his clothes automatically changing to his costume. Or the powers they gave him that he doesn't really have.
Sorry this is so long, but I really care about comic books and this subject.
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| Dr Baghead 3131th Post
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| "Re(2):Leave Superman alone..." , posted Mon 19 Jul 21:17
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I also think that Welling would be an excellent choice to portray Superman in the movies (especially after seeing the Alex Ross renderings of Tom Welling as Superman). However, if they don't get Welling, then they should get an unknown that can pull it off.
I thinking of something lately and I'm just going to throw it out there:
If Tom Welling was going to be Superman in a movie, why not just wait until Smallville ends (it's only gotta have just a couple more seasons right? they can't stay young forever) then have the restart of the Superman movies take over from the end of the series? That way the first Superman movie doesn't need to have the whole set up! people know it... they know Clark/Supes, Lex, Lana, Lois, etc... they can jump right into the action and adventure!
Also spin-offs are big money... Batman Returns spawned Catwoman, Daredevil spawned Elektra, X-Men seems likely to spawn Wolverine in the future, and I'm sure if she's ever in a Spider-man movie well see a Blackcat movie too...
Why do I say this? because the WB seems to be rushing the Superman project now, they've let it sit around for 10 years and now are pushing like hell to get it out by 2006... my theory is it's so they can get their 'core' Superman franchise off the ground, then when Smallville ends launch it into a movie series... TWO SUPERMAN FRANCHISES!! Each with a different set of plots and different character interactions and most likely slightly different core audiences...
so the long of the short is, I think the only way Tom Welling will play Superman on the big screen is if it's in "Smallville:the movie"
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For Sixth Sense I saw the ending coming a mile away. No one else speaking to Bruce Wilis other than the kid was the big tip off.
Where you informed before going to see the movie or did you piece it together yourself? (I'm not being accusing saying "the only way you could have guessed that is if you knew!!!" the movie was ruined for me before I went to see it so the clues were obvious to me and I wanted to know... not knowing do they really pop out that much?)
yeah it's not funny but the naked chick tag was getting annoying.
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| "Re(3):Leave Superman alone..." , posted Tue 20 Jul 06:39
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If Tom Welling was going to be Superman in a movie, why not just wait until Smallville ends (it's only gotta have just a couple more seasons right? they can't stay young forever) then have the restart of the Superman movies take over from the end of the series? That way the first Superman movie doesn't need to have the whole set up! people know it... they know Clark/Supes, Lex, Lana, Lois, etc... they can jump right into the action and adventure!
I think the problem with this idea is that the WB most likely wants the movie to have as much of a mass appeal as possible. People who aren't fans of the series (including myself) would be much less likely to see what they considered to be "Smallville, the Movie".
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For Sixth Sense I saw the ending coming a mile away. No one else speaking to Bruce Wilis other than the kid was the big tip off.
Where you informed before going to see the movie or did you piece it together yourself? (I'm not being accusing saying "the only way you could have guessed that is if you knew!!!" the movie was ruined for me before I went to see it so the clues were obvious to me and I wanted to know... not knowing do they really pop out that much?)
I didn't think that the clues were all that obvious (until the twist is revealed). As far as Bruce Willis not talking to anyone, the movie is shot with such a stange, methodical pacing that you don't really notice. It's not like there's a bunch of lively dialogue going on between characters other than Bruce.
When I saw the Sixth Sense, I didn't even know there was a twist ending at all (let alone what the twist was), so I was caught completely off-guard. Luckily, the same was true with me for Fight Club. Even if I do hear that there's going to be a surprise ending in a movie, I usually make a conscious effort not to guess while I'm watching it.
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