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| Hungrywolf 2878th Post
 
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|  "Megaman Battle Network question"
, posted Tue 13 Jul 15:52
Alright, I've read some FAQs, but I still need help with this one fight. The first fight with Protoman, immediately following Elecman, is giving me a hard time. I have no trouble with Elecman. I'm really getting tired of beating him (I hate not being able to save before the fight with Protoman). Anyway, I have a little luck sometimes on the battle chips that I have to choose from, but it's not enough to really win that fight for me. I may just be making the fight hard for myself (it does seem pretty easy in theory). Anyway, if anyone can help, I appreciate it.
I'm loving the game. I think it's a lot of fun and I like the story. I've been a fan of Megaman games for a long time, but didn't have interest in Battle Network until I saw the Megaman NT Warrior show. (Luckily I found Megaman BN and Megaman BN3 Blue at Circuit City for 5 bucks a piece)
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| DarkZero 859th Post
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| "Re(1):Megaman Battle Network question" , posted Tue 13 Jul 20:11
The key to Protoman, and this applies to most of the fights that you'll ever have with him, is that you have to fight him in a specific way. It's not like other bosses, where there are a dozen "right" ways to beat them that correspond to whatever chips you prefer. With Protoman, you have to fight him only one or two different ways, which may require using certain chips when you're still new to the series.
Basically, you have to wait for him to attack you. As soon as he disappears from his back row, wait just a split second and then dodge backward. Protoman will swipe thin air in your front row and you can either A) move in for a sword attack, B) using a buster attack from your middle line, or C) pull off a cannon attack if you're really, really good with the timing. That's pretty much it.
Just get used to the rhythm of waiting and dodging and you'll eventually figure out an attack that you can time correctly. It's probably going to turn out to be the Sword or Widesword, but some people fair better with the cannon. And if I remember correctly, never use bombs. If you throw one into his back line, he'll teleport in front of you and slash you before you're finished with the bomb throw. That might not have been added until MMBN2, but I think it was in MMBN1, as well.
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| DarkZero 860th Post
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| "Re(2):Megaman Battle Network question" , posted Tue 13 Jul 20:13
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The key to Protoman, and this applies to most of the fights that you'll ever have with him, is that you have to fight him in a specific way. It's not like other bosses, where there are a dozen "right" ways to beat them that correspond to whatever chips you prefer. With Protoman, you have to fight him only one or two different ways, which may require using certain chips when you're still new to the series.
Basically, you have to wait for him to attack you. As soon as he disappears from his back row, wait just a split second and then dodge backward. Protoman will swipe thin air in your front row and you can either A) move in for a sword attack, B) using a buster attack from your middle line, or C) pull off a cannon attack if you're really, really good with the timing. That's pretty much it.
Just get used to the rhythm of waiting and dodging and you'll eventually figure out an attack that you can time correctly. It's probably going to turn out to be the Sword or Widesword, but some people fair better with the cannon. And if I remember correctly, never use bombs. If you throw one into his back line, he'll teleport in front of you and slash you before you're finished with the bomb throw. That might not have been added until MMBN2, but I think it was in MMBN1, as well.
Minor spoiler:
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And yes, he does get WAY nastier in the next game. When I saw what he could do in MMBN2, I just sat there for a second trying to think of how the fuck I could possibly survive his new moves. It took many, many tries to kill him.
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| EternalNewbie
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| "Re(4):mm battle network trade" , posted Thu 15 Jul 07:54
Its been a while since I have last played the first one, but you sure you aren't trying to get into one of the secret areas? Usually, the secret areas in the game require you to collect the most to all of the chips, but usually the story doesn't require that (well, sometimes you have the rare occasionally required chip trade, but usually those chips in the trade are not hard to find). The secret area in the first game has ShadowMan,PharoahMan, and Bass, so I think you only have to collect the chips if you want to face them. You said you beat Protoman, but have you also already beat Bombman? Also, on the note of the EXE series, one of the main reasons I like them is because they make fairly signifigant advancements per number in the series (also, I like to see all the old robot masters given an art upgrade and turned EXE). For instance, EXE 1 is good, but really needed some polish to it. EXE 2 turned up the difficulty and made some changes to the chip system that were nice (also, made it so that you didn't heal after every battle, which I thought made more sense). EXE 3 added some more advancements to the entire system, also throwing in the Navi Customizer which was nice. Now, I am playing EXE 4: BM, and having a good time. They did a slight upgrade to the graphics in 4, added in the Soul Unision system which I prefer over the Style Change, and gave the game some nice replay value into the hard mode. Already, I have my eye on EXE 4.5 Real Operation, where unlike the other games, you choose your navi (one of the 12 Soul Unision Navis from 4, Rockman, or there is a special preorder bonus of getting a StarMan Navi chip, enabling StarMan) and the operator is supposed to be you. However, because of that, the game really has no plot except for an internal clock and different parts of the net world to explore with varying things happening different days. Well, anyway, morale of the story is the EXE series is quite nice to due the various advancements each one tends to make to the series.
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| EternalNewbie
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| "Re(7):mm battle network trade" , posted Thu 15 Jul 10:03
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Checked the Non Spoiler Free Walk Through at Gamefaqs. I'm up to the part where you have to speak to 3 people, and the last one I talked to was Ms. Yuri in Dentown. She, Megaman AND Lan are all re-inforcing me filling up my folder, but in Gamefaqs it says I have to talk to all three in order to progress. Well, thanks Megaman, Lan and Ms. Yuri for the Bad advice. You guys suck. And the Game Makers suck for allowing this snafu.
Also, even though the first game was pretty good, remember that it was pretty much the worse in the series compared to the other ones (see my earlier post). So, if you want to judge the series, you could go from the first one upward (which you would see a nice evolution), or play just the most recent one. For the EXE series, to judge the series by the first game, is not a good idea. It would be like playing Super Mario 1, saying it was good but had some flaws, and then not playing Super Mario 3 and Super Mario World. That would be a travesty! Travesty indeed.... *puff* *puff* *puff*
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| DarkZero 864th Post
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| "Re(7):mm battle network trade" , posted Thu 15 Jul 20:18
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Checked the Non Spoiler Free Walk Through at Gamefaqs. I'm up to the part where you have to speak to 3 people, and the last one I talked to was Ms. Yuri in Dentown. She, Megaman AND Lan are all re-inforcing me filling up my folder, but in Gamefaqs it says I have to talk to all three in order to progress. Well, thanks Megaman, Lan and Ms. Yuri for the Bad advice. You guys suck. And the Game Makers suck for allowing this snafu.
Now I remember this. This is probably the biggest bug (more like a design mistake) in Megaman Battle Network 1. What happens is that there's a break in the hints that people give you. The game gives you hints via Megaman.EXE and other NPCs up until you get toward the end, and at that point you're supposed to stop receiving hints... until you beat the game, at which time you can keep playing and start receiving hints for the sidequest. That's how it's supposed to work, at least. In actuality, what happens is that the characters jump directly from giving you hints for the main quest to giving you hints for the side quest, which sends you in the wrong direction. It's only a problem for about a half hour of the game, but it's damned annoying for that half hour.
Just follow along with the FAQ for a couple of paragraphs and ignore the "fill up your folder" thing until after you've seen the credits roll and then continued your game afterward.
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| Sano 892th Post
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| "Re(8):mm battle network trade" , posted Fri 16 Jul 07:31:
OK, I got passed the part, here's what I discovered.
Ms. Yuri still told me to fill up my Data Library ((that's what I was confusing with Folder. You can't even play if your Folder is not full.) but what I was missing was all she really wanted me to do is use the Sky Lab Memo and enter that Area in the Undernet to get the few Chips there. After only three more chips, she finally gave up her Memo. The Old man wanted me to increase MM's Level, so I had to buy two memory chips to increase that.
So, I think you can avoid all of this if you have 60 + in your Data Library and have Megaman above level 30, or just visit every new Area once you get a Memo for that Area.
Anyway, breezed past Bombman and I'm up to the end. Thanks everybody for all the help even if I went my usual Asshoe way about it. Can't really help it, I am an Asshoe, LOL! Still not crazy about the game but once I finish it I'll be sure to give MMBN 2 a chance.
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