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Mosquiton

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"Tenchu: Kurenai preview video" , posted Tue 13 Jul 05:46

Very long, very informative video.

I think anyone who's already a Tenchu fan is going be pleased. The game looks about as good as I could hope for without starting anything over from scratch.

Finally you can kill more than one person at once. Not only will this be incredibly useful, it looks damn nice and is really quite logical. I'm psyched.

I'd like for them to include coop again, which I didn't see in the vids, but so far so good.

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Jigsaw
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"Re(1):Tenchu: Kurenai preview video" , posted Tue 13 Jul 06:59

Those internal organ close-ups during the stealth kills look very much like the sort of thing you'll hate after you've seen them for the 10th time, but the game does look cool. I haven't played any Tenchu but the first one, and even though I found it very hard I did kinda like it.

Mosquiton

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"Re(2):Tenchu: Kurenai preview video" , posted Tue 13 Jul 07:16

quote:
Those internal organ close-ups during the stealth kills look very much like the sort of thing you'll hate after you've seen them for the 10th time, but the game does look cool. I haven't played any Tenchu but the first one, and even though I found it very hard I did kinda like it.

They (X-ray shots) don't seem to go off every time... I'd like for them to make that player controlled (holding the button, for instance).

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Mokona
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Rare Customer

"Re(3):Tenchu: Kurenai preview video" , posted Tue 13 Jul 07:57

I haven't played this series yet, but it sure looks interesting. (I've been meaning to get myself a cheap used copy of Wrath of Heaven for PS2 but never found one! I guess the game is good enough not to be traded back to the store)
I wonder about the AI though... I mean, 2 guards, one of them staring at a wall, the ninja-girl kills the other one and he still does nothing but guarding his wall! I hope all the guards are not this easy to kill, you know!
The bosses seem a bit more of a challenge though.
And the ninja tricks look nice, like the invisible wall-cover or the bees, the log faint, the smoke and flash bombs...

Damn you Microsoft

because of you I can calculate faster than my computer!

Mosquiton

1272th Post

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"Re(4):Tenchu: Kurenai preview video" , posted Tue 13 Jul 08:18

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I wonder about the AI though... I mean, 2 guards, one of them staring at a wall, the ninja-girl kills the other one and he still does nothing but guarding his wall! I hope all the guards are not this easy to kill, you know!

Actually you've got it all wrong, both of those guards are being (instant+stealth)killed within a split-second of each other... and time and angles are manipulated for effect.

A problem with the other games is how ridiculous it looked when you killed someone in close proximity to someone else, then turned around and killed them in a separate cutscene.

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Ishmael

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"Re(5):Tenchu: Kurenai preview video" , posted Tue 13 Jul 10:56

Thanks for the video! It's good to see that Tenchu is still as ruthless as ever. I'm happy to see Tesshu's wire kill and his x-ray death scenes made it in the game even if the that big lunatic didn't. The stealth kill of some poor sap getting his skull crushed on the ground was especially lovely.

Speaking of stealth kills, the double kills look good as well. Some games haven't handled double kills all that well [ex.Mark of Kri] but that stealth kill made it look like both guards had the hell knocked out of them before either could react. I wonder if there's going to be a special command for double kills?

The new items look like fun although I am a bit surprised to see swimming and body dragging back. Hopefully those moves work better than they did in Tenchu 2. I didn't play the Xbox version so I don't know how well the new body lugging feature works? Can you toss bodies down bottomless pits or throw a corpse off a ledge so it lands on a lower platform in order to terrorize any guards that are down there?

Overall the game looks like fun although I wonder how it will play like now that Ayame, the "fast" one of the pair, is now the biggest playable character. Is your ninja options only going to be the fast ninja or the even faster ninja?

Side-notes: I liked the rice ball keychain. Also, who was doing the story narration in the clip?

Undead Fred

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"Re(1):Tenchu: Kurenai preview video" , posted Tue 13 Jul 11:25

quote:
Very long, very informative video.

I think anyone who's already a Tenchu fan is going be pleased. The game looks about as good as I could hope for without starting anything over from scratch.

Finally you can kill more than one person at once. Not only will this be incredibly useful, it looks damn nice and is really quite logical. I'm psyched.

I'd like for them to include coop again, which I didn't see in the vids, but so far so good.

Was it just me, or were they killing civilians at one point? Anyway, the game looks pretty good. I like the looks of the new girl, but I'm really gonna miss Rikimaru and Tesshu... not that I expected him to come back, though. Rikimaru's just about the only one I used in the first two games- I hardly ever used Ayame.

Personally, I think the ultra-slow stealth kills are probably going to be a little irritating after a while. The new ninja tricks look awesome (didn't notice a LOT of new tricks, but any new ones are very good), and I like some of the new characters so far- mostly that guy with the sword in his mouth.

I've got mixed feelings about this new one, but I still think it will be good.

Gojira

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Red Carpet Executive Member

"Re(2):Tenchu: Kurenai preview video" , posted Tue 13 Jul 15:22

Is there a downloadable version of this somewhere?

Ammadeau

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"Re(6):Tenchu: Kurenai preview video" , posted Tue 13 Jul 20:48

quote:
The new items look like fun although I am a bit surprised to see swimming and body dragging back. Hopefully those moves work better than they did in Tenchu 2. I didn't play the Xbox version so I don't know how well the new body lugging feature works? Can you toss bodies down bottomless pits or throw a corpse off a ledge so it lands on a lower platform in order to terrorize any guards that are down there?

Well, hopefully they improved it from the xbox version since it was fairly useless. You could only drag the body over a flat surface and you moved way too slow for it to ever be worth doing. It should be more like a fireman's carry like in Splinter Cell.

For those who don't know, stealth kill animations are skippable, so if you're bored of them (and you will be) you can pass all of them by with a button press.

That said, I'm actually disappointed in the vids I've seen. It doesn't seem as it's improved at all since Tenchu 3 and there was room for improvement there to be sure. I'm passing on this, but really only because to many other games are coming out this month. I don't have time for any more.

Mosquiton

1275th Post

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"Famitsu scores" , posted Tue 13 Jul 21:14:

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That said, I'm actually disappointed in the vids I've seen. It doesn't seem as it's improved at all since Tenchu 3 and there was room for improvement there to be sure. I'm passing on this, but really only because to many other games are coming out this month. I don't have time for any more.

Honestly I would be somewhat disappointed with the videos if my expectations weren't already low. I'd expected a similar product since seeing the first screens some time ago. What I really want is for the series to get a completely overhaul, especially the clunky fighting (and lets be honest, the graphics could use a serious shot in the arm). Somehow I fell in with various Tenchu aficionados who artificially elevate my hype for the series, and I have to admit to being a complete sucker for ninjas.

Edit:
Tenchu Kurenai got 9, 7, 8, 7 - (31 / 40) from Famitsu (according to Magicbox), which could possibly be an indicator of actual quality.

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[this message was edited by Mosquiton on Wed 14 Jul 09:08]