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Ikari Loona
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"Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Thu 24 Jun 09:47

Please do correct me if I'm wrong or simply misinformed about this, but if the Streets of Rage series are one of Sega's licenses, and if Sammy is taking over Sega, doesn't that mean we could see them developing a sequel of the game someday?...

I'm not sure if the SoR games were handled by a part of Sega that might not be included in the "package" Sammy is taking over, but the prospect of them reviving the series is surely a pleasant one - an great beat-em-up with excellent music by the makers of Guilty Gear...

Wishing for the likes of Shiva in Sammy vs Capcom would be too much, so I'm left to simply wonder about a "simple" SoR sequel...

Puchu?

"Beat the machine that works in your head!" - Guano Apes "Open Your Eyes"

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Jigsaw
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"Re(1):Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Thu 24 Jun 10:03

Just to set things straight: There hasn't been any news or anything that specifically implies a Sammy produced Bare Knuckle game is in the works, right? If there were, it'd definitely be cool, though. Actually, any news related to BK would be cool.

exodus

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"Re(1):Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Thu 24 Jun 11:04

quote:
Please do correct me if I'm wrong or simply misinformed about this, but if the Streets of Rage series are one of Sega's licenses, and if Sammy is taking over Sega, doesn't that mean we could see them developing a sequel of the game someday?...

yes, but...
there was also a chance of sega doing it before this. I mean, the fact that they merged with a company doesn't make it any more likely. There was a 3D version planned for the DC and they scrapped it. And uh...it certainly looked terrible.

IkariDC
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"Re(2):Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Thu 24 Jun 12:42

Yuzo's attemps of bringing back the series were useless, and that's too bad. If Sammy resurrects the Bare Knuckle franchise, I'll die of pure happiness. But the music must be done by Yuzo, it wouldn't be the same without him. His sister Ayano's designs would come handy too, she even designed the characters to that scrapped Bare Knuckle 4.

exodus

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"Re(3):Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Thu 24 Jun 12:48

quote:
she even designed the characters to that scrapped Bare Knuckle 4.

which looked awful, need I remind anyone.

IkariDC
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"Re(4):Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Thu 24 Jun 13:19

quote:
she even designed the characters to that scrapped Bare Knuckle 4.

which looked awful, need I remind anyone.

I agree, but it was just a demo. I mean, the graphics were obviusly unfinished, but some of the gameplay seemed interesting. I'm talking about the attacks cooperating with a second player, not that FPS view gameplay.

exodus

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"Re(5):Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Thu 24 Jun 13:24

quote:
I agree, but it was just a demo. I mean, the graphics were obviusly unfinished, but some of the gameplay seemed interesting. I'm talking about the attacks cooperating with a second player, not that FPS view gameplay.

the fps view stuff is really what threw me off. but then, I've heard that it's done really well in the riddick game, so...hmmm.

Oroch

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"Re(6):Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Thu 24 Jun 13:53:

quote:
I agree, but it was just a demo. I mean, the graphics were obviusly unfinished, but some of the gameplay seemed interesting. I'm talking about the attacks cooperating with a second player, not that FPS view gameplay.

the fps view stuff is really what threw me off. but then, I've heard that it's done really well in the riddick game, so...hmmm.

i hope they get yuzo koshiro to make the music, if they ever make it

真剣勝負

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Omar

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"Re(7):Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Thu 24 Jun 23:16

Didn't Sammy said that they wanted Sega to focus more on the arcades? A Streets of Rage Arcade would kick ass.

DarkZero

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"Re(2):Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Fri 25 Jun 00:18

quote:
Please do correct me if I'm wrong or simply misinformed about this, but if the Streets of Rage series are one of Sega's licenses, and if Sammy is taking over Sega, doesn't that mean we could see them developing a sequel of the game someday?...

yes, but...
there was also a chance of sega doing it before this. I mean, the fact that they merged with a company doesn't make it any more likely. There was a 3D version planned for the DC and they scrapped it. And uh...it certainly looked terrible.

Doesn't it make it more likely because:
A) Their combined company owns some quality 2D hardware (Atomiswave)
B) Their company is expected to continue to produce games for that hardware because it's a cartridge/CD-based hardware, unlike, say, the Initial D Special Stage hardware, which is really never expected to play anything else
C) Sammy wants them to focus on the arcade market, which would probably include the Atomiswave

I mean, if they were ever going to produce another 2D or 2 1/2D Streets of Rage, now's the time, right?

Argus
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Rare Customer

"Re(3):Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Fri 2 Jul 18:42

SOR4 was on the cards for a good while during the Saturn/Dreamcast era... but do you know the behind the scenes reason it was canned? This is from no less a horses mouth than Yuzo btw, when he did an interview at Segaweb.com (when it was still around).

The president of Sega of America at the time (Bernie Stollar?) was handed a brief, which included Yuzo's sisters new character designs and ideas for gameplay. His response? That "nobody would buy it" and he didn't even know about the existence of the series till that point. If he didn't know it... why would the punters?

Madness, I tell you. If the president of the company doesn't even know of one of its most successful and loved franchises... well it's a pretty striking insight into the sinking ship that was Sega.

nobinobita
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"Re(4):Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Fri 2 Jul 20:55

quote:

The president of Sega of America at the time (Bernie Stollar?) was handed a brief, which included Yuzo's sisters new character designs and ideas for gameplay. His response? That "nobody would buy it" and he didn't even know about the existence of the series till that point. If he didn't know it... why would the punters?

Bernie Stoller was a horrible horrrible man who drove Sega of America into the ground. He used to be a gym teacher (not making that up), and he considered himself well versed in gaming because he would ask his son for advice. I'm guessing his son was probably one of those modern gamer types who grew up with no taste. You know, the kinda kid who ignores "kiddy" games like Mario in favor of more "mature" fare like Blood Rayne. Anyway, the guy just didn't understand games. He was just some guy who knew the right people and knew how to present himself well enough to get the job, but didn't have any real qualification for it. He had no heart, but even worse, he didn't even have much good business sense.

The funny thing is, i bet old Bernie would fare better in today's gaming climate now that game's have gotten so mainstream and games are targeted at Joe Schmoe, rather than the "hardcore" gaming enthusiast.

But yeah, shame that he was the reason they never developed the beloved Streets of Rage property for any next gen systems.

LeMalta
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New Customer

"Re(1):Sammy and Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle" , posted Fri 2 Jul 22:37

I would love to see a part 4 in 2D using hi-res graphics or at least see those characters in that Sammy vs Capcom game. Who knows what will happen. I did hear that someone is working on a new Black Belt game, you know that old school Sega Master System game?

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