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Fuchikoma

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"Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Tue 15 Jun 11:30:

I'm sure by now some of you have watched the first episodes of Samurai 7... and while it's a good show, I don't see why there was this fuss that it costs $300,000 an episode. The CG wasn't really above the level of Last Exile or Bakuretsu Tenshi... hell even at first I could have sworn they were reusing some of their models from Vandread. CG aside at least the characters and story are really interesting so that makes it a good show... but WAAAAYYY overhyped.

[this message was edited by Fuchikoma on Tue 15 Jun 13:14]

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Holiday

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"Re(1):Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Tue 15 Jun 19:43

I though the first two episodes were ok?
Anyway, if I remember correctly from the website (or was it in an interview?), it cost a lot to produce because it was made especially for Japanese HDTV broadcast.

FYI, Japan uses NTSC D1 for its broadcast signal which has a pixel resolution of 720x486 (non-square), but HDTV uses either 1280x720 or 1920x1080 pixels... I'm not sure which format they're using.
Of course, they could just blow up their normal 720x486 output to HDTV size, but it's not the same :)

So basically it's a lot more work to produce an anime at higher resolutions, hence the big increase in cost.

Satoshi_Miwa

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"Re(2):Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Tue 15 Jun 23:14

Probably half of that went to Kurosawa's estate for the use of the name....:P

Actually, I think alot of that went into background and fluid animations. Sure the 3-D stuff looks like typical Gonzo but the rest seemed to animate more smoothly than say...Baku-tenshi.

As for the show itself, I kinda of liked the first 2 episodes. They weren't too bad and kinda of enjoyable.....But I can't help but like Champaloo more. And I find Samurai Jack has the future Samurai world down a bit more. And if they continue following the orginal film too closely for the rest of the series...well...

Separated at Birth?

Iggy

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"Re(3):Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Wed 16 Jun 02:02

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But I can't help but like Champaloo more.

I loved the first episode, but the two others were a huge disapointment. It's like the main team worked only on the first episode, then left some random hobo to do the rest of the series. If the 4th episode doesn't improve drastically, it will be the last episode of the series I will watch.

To be honest, so far, Bôkyaku no Senritsu is a far more interesting series, even though it is flawed from the very beginning and the character design is horrible. I have the feeling Enokido Yôji had the stupid scenario of the first episodes in hand and since then dedicaces all his genius to find things that would make each episode intriguing in spite of the general plot. The Nezumi Kôdani arc was extremely interesting, the idea was charming...
Well, my main problem is that I would have loved to see all those brilliant and/or funny ideas (the WTF-ejaculating-CuteyHoney-arrow) in a series of the level of Utena. But it's still better than the total waste of time the 2 last episodes of Champloo have been. I continue to wait for every new episode of Senritsu with anticipation, to see all the flaws and the brilliant ideas they had to cover them ; my only motivation to search Champloo episodes so far is that they trade well in WinMX, so I can get my episodes of Senritsu faster.

これだけは主張しておく魂の叫び：
わたくしカエルの肛門にストローさしたり爆竹つっこんだりした経験はありません。

Holiday

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"Re(4):Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Wed 16 Jun 08:47

Iggy, you follow Boukyaku no Senritsu (The Melody of Oblivion)? Approval rating up!

I like this series as well, although I nearly dropped it after watching the first 1 or 2 episodes. I think I'm up to ep10 now.
It's one of the more (most) erotic anime being shown now. Well, erotic in a trippy symbolic artistic (hah) way, and not shoved in your face style.

And yes, that Cutey Honey creamy arrow episode... there was a lot of pink in tht one.

NariHibiki .....no meros!

Iggy

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"Re(5):Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Wed 16 Jun 09:01

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Iggy, you follow Boukyaku no Senritsu (The Melody of Oblivion)? Approval rating up!

Of course I do, Enokido worked on it. I could look down the bottom of his toilets for days if I was sure what's inside came out of him.

quote:
I like this series as well, although I nearly dropped it after watching the first 1 or 2 episodes.

Yeah, the first 2 episodes were terrible. Thank god the other (female) monster showed up in the next part... I love her.

quote:
I think I'm up to ep10 now.

Episode 11 was showed yesterday (or the day before?)

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It's one of the more (most) erotic anime being shown now. Well, erotic in a trippy symbolic artistic (hah) way, and not shoved in your face style.

Erotic ? It's a strange word to discribe the series... I wouldn't have thought to it by myself. I mean, of course, there are the two girls special-Sailormoon-style attack, and the way the blue haired girl got her iber machine, but...
Oh, well. The more the series goes, the more I think it may have the potential to climb near Utena.

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NariHibiki .....no meros!

NarihibikE.

And I would love to know if the "M" letter was there from the beginning or if someone had to add it because it was too obvious without it.

これだけは主張しておく魂の叫び：
わたくしカエルの肛門にストローさしたり爆竹つっこんだりした経験はありません。

Zepy

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"Re(6):Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Wed 16 Jun 09:17

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And I would love to know if the "M" letter was there from the beginning or if someone had to add it because it was too obvious without it.

It must have been added on accident in a typo. The girls are definitely pronouncing it the wrong way.

Holiday

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"Re(7):Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Wed 16 Jun 09:48

Oh yeah, Narihibike. I think was thinking of Hibiki or something.
Anyone here read the Boukyaku no Senritsu manga? I heard that there's one, but I don't think I've seen it before. That, and I actually haven't looked for it.

I still think it's more erotic than sexual, in a hinted sort of way. Maybe it's the way it's directed? Or I just see eroticism in everything. Or the fact that repeatedly shouting Meros has a brainwashing effect.

Sorry, Fuchikoma, for hijacking your S7 thread >_>

Fuchikoma

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"Re(8):Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Wed 16 Jun 09:59

Ah no problem, I've actually watched the first two episodes of Boukyaku no Senritsu myself... I was interested since it was the same writer as FLCL. I hadn't watched anything studio AIC in a while and yeah it's a pretty good show so far. I like the whole archery aspect and a guy who rides a charging bus with bull legs is just weird enough to keep me watching... speaking of stuff done by FLCL staff... Dead Leaves will be coming out next month.

Spoon

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"Re(6):Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Wed 16 Jun 21:09

quote:
the potential to climb near Utena.

But without eroticism???
How???

Satoshi_Miwa

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"Re(8):Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Wed 16 Jun 21:22

Okay, I'll go back and releech some Melody of Oblivion this week thanks to the hype from Iggy and Holiday. I've been avoiding it thanks to the Gainax name and the fact This Ugly and Beautifull world got damn boring really fast. But then it does have JC Staff to cancel out the Gainax factor so I should of been more open minded...

As for other series on that I'm watching now, well lets just say that the Midori no Hibi anime ending is going to suck unless they can conjure up a miracle. Madlax has actually become good (I know, it shocked me too), and the pace of Godannar and Keroro subs makes me cry hot tears...

Separated at Birth?

Holiday

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"Re(9):Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Wed 16 Jun 23:37

It's a good time to pick up English fansbs of Melody right now, as Rice-Box has just released episodes 1-5. Fansubs of this show are going terribly slow.
Just remember to force yourself through episodes 1+2.

This Ugly and Beautiful World = no. At least geting this series is unbelievably easy as tons of people seem to have the raws. I don't even know why I'm following this? Oh well... only one more episode to go.

Midori no Hibi = just an average series, but has its funny moments.

Madlax is actually good now?!? I hated the first episode so much that I deleted it as soon as I finished watching it. Maybe I'll try this once someone releases a batch torrent.

Zepy

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"Re(8):Samurai 7 costs how much to make now?!" , posted Thu 17 Jun 04:07

quote:
Oh yeah, Narihibike. I think was thinking of Hibiki or something.
Anyone here read the Boukyaku no Senritsu manga? I heard that there's one, but I don't think I've seen it before. That, and I actually haven't looked for it.

I've read it. It's quite different from the anime, though there are similar scenes and characters.

It's pretty good, I'd reccomend it together with the anime.

I hate the Homo no hibi manga now. Except when it has all those homo stuff. The homo stuff is quite entertaining compared to the recent chapters.