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EddyT

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"Nintendo survey: classic NES games to GBA" , posted Sat 12 Jun 19:05:

http://www.nintendo.com/classic.jsp

You can choose 15 classic NES games that you would like to see re-released on the GBA, but out of that amount, 12 choices are restricted to a pre-set list. The 3 games I chose that weren't on the main list were Bionic Commando, Ninja Gaiden and Castlevania 3.

Just passing this along, and I hope everyone takes part in the survey.

[this message was edited by EddyT on Sat 12 Jun 19:06]

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Undead Fred

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"Re(1):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to " , posted Sat 12 Jun 19:09

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http://www.nintendo.com/classic.jsp

You can choose 15 classic NES games that you would like to see re-released on the GBA, but out of that amount, 12 choices are restricted to a pre-set list. The 3 games I chose that weren't on the main list were Bionic Commando, Ninja Gaiden and Castlevania 3.

Just passing this along, and I hope everyone takes part in the survey.

I thought they were already putting ones like Excitebike on the GBA? It's been a million years since I've even SEEN Wrecking Crew, though.

EddyT

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"Re(2):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sat 12 Jun 19:29

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I thought they were already putting ones like Excitebike on the GBA? It's been a million years since I've even SEEN Wrecking Crew, though.

Yeah, I know... it's strange. I just voted for ones that weren't out yet. I'm hoping that they take the results seriously.

Radish

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"Re(1):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to " , posted Sat 12 Jun 19:38

While I kinda want to playt these, I still think they're a huge rip off at the current pricing structure.

Undead Fred

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"Re(2):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sat 12 Jun 19:41

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Yeah, I know... it's strange. I just voted for ones that weren't out yet. I'm hoping that they take the results seriously.

Yeah, good idea.

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While I kinda want to playt these, I still think they're a huge rip off at the current pricing structure.

Yeah, I agree. I've been thinking of getting a GBA, but I would avoid getting these retro games just on principle... "Look, I know these are antiques, but I ain't paying antique prices..."

Hungrywolf

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"Re(3):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sat 12 Jun 20:29

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Yeah, I know... it's strange. I just voted for ones that weren't out yet. I'm hoping that they take the results seriously.
Yeah, good idea.

While I kinda want to playt these, I still think they're a huge rip off at the current pricing structure.
Yeah, I agree. I've been thinking of getting a GBA, but I would avoid getting these retro games just on principle... "Look, I know these are antiques, but I ain't paying antique prices..."

I think the classic NES games on GBA are only 15 dollars at Circuit City, but that's just what I heard.

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Grahf
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"Re(3):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sat 12 Jun 20:31

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While I kinda want to playt these, I still think they're a huge rip off at the current pricing structure.

Yeah, I agree. I've been thinking of getting a GBA, but I would avoid getting these retro games just on principle... "Look, I know these are antiques, but I ain't paying antique prices..."

Yeah, NES emulation has been so prevalent for so long, it seems so strange to me that they are able to release individual ports at these kinds of prices. But I guess if somehow you never knew about or used an emulator, it might be pretty cool to see these games back on the market. Even so, it seems kinda steep for one game, especially since so many collections of classic games have been released in the past.

Radish

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"Re(4):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sat 12 Jun 20:41

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While I kinda want to playt these, I still think they're a huge rip off at the current pricing structure.

Yeah, I agree. I've been thinking of getting a GBA, but I would avoid getting these retro games just on principle... "Look, I know these are antiques, but I ain't paying antique prices..."Yeah, NES emulation has been so prevalent for so long, it seems so strange to me that they are able to release individual ports at these kinds of prices. But I guess if somehow you never knew about or used an emulator, it might be pretty cool to see these games back on the market. Even so, it seems kinda steep for one game, especially since so many collections of classic games have been released in the past.

I'd be all about these if they were packs with themes like "Classic Konami Hits! Castlevania & Contra!" or "Capcoms Greatest Challenges! Megaman, Ghouls and Ghosts, and 1942!" for $30. However how many MORE times do they need to repackage Super Mario Brothers 1? I mean it's good and all, but really this is like the 4th time. Also half these games are available for the e-reader anyway.

Also what's the deal with shafting us in terms of packaging? Japan got the pretty famicom styled boxes while we just get shitty regular ones.

Burning Ranger

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"Re(4):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sat 12 Jun 20:43

quote:

Yeah, I agree. I've been thinking of getting a GBA, but I would avoid getting these retro games just on principle... "Look, I know these are antiques, but I ain't paying antique prices..."Yeah, NES emulation has been so prevalent for so long, it seems so strange to me that they are able to release individual ports at these kinds of prices. But I guess if somehow you never knew about or used an emulator, it might be pretty cool to see these games back on the market. Even so, it seems kinda steep for one game, especially since so many collections of classic games have been released in the past.

Pfeh... I'm not too keen on playing these games on a GBA... not when I can play them on my NES and get the games at less than half the price of the GBA versions. 4Also, I have the special Zelda GC disc with the NES Zeldas on it.

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Hungrywolf

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"Re(5):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sat 12 Jun 20:58

quote:

Yeah, I agree. I've been thinking of getting a GBA, but I would avoid getting these retro games just on principle... "Look, I know these are antiques, but I ain't paying antique prices..."Yeah, NES emulation has been so prevalent for so long, it seems so strange to me that they are able to release individual ports at these kinds of prices. But I guess if somehow you never knew about or used an emulator, it might be pretty cool to see these games back on the market. Even so, it seems kinda steep for one game, especially since so many collections of classic games have been released in the past.

Pfeh... I'm not too keen on playing these games on a GBA... not when I can play them on my NES and get the games at less than half the price of the GBA versions. 4Also, I have the special Zelda GC disc with the NES Zeldas on it.

I'd love to be able to play Zelda and Zelda 2 when I'm not around my GCN though, so I'm happy with the release of Zelda on GBA and I hope Zelda 2 will be in the second group of games.

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Undead Fred

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"Re(5):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sat 12 Jun 21:05

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Yeah, NES emulation has been so prevalent for so long, it seems so strange to me that they are able to release individual ports at these kinds of prices. But I guess if somehow you never knew about or used an emulator, it might be pretty cool to see these games back on the market. Even so, it seems kinda steep for one game, especially since so many collections of classic games have been released in the past.

Yeah, I know. They're available everywhere now- emulators, e-readers, the original NES, even in Animal Crossing...

If they weren't severely over-priced, I'd probably get one or two so I could play them while I was on a long drive or something along those lines. Otherwise, I've got a million other options in terms of playing those games.

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I'd be all about these if they were packs with themes like "Classic Konami Hits! Castlevania & Contra!" or "Capcoms Greatest Challenges! Megaman, Ghouls and Ghosts, and 1942!" for $30. However how many MORE times do they need to repackage Super Mario Brothers 1? I mean it's good and all, but really this is like the 4th time. Also half these games are available for the e-reader anyway.

Also what's the deal with shafting us in terms of packaging? Japan got the pretty famicom styled boxes while we just get shitty regular ones.

Yeah, I know. They'll keep re-packaging SMB1 as long as we'll keep buying it. And you know there are a lot of people out there that are saying, "Yes! I'd love to go back in time. $20 for one of your oldest games? Certainly, Nintendo. I know you guys are hurting for money over there, so I'll make sure to show my approval of your products by buying my 15th copy of Super Mario Brothers. Thanks!"

Heh heh.

Luisinan

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"Re(1):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to " , posted Sat 12 Jun 22:03

Well, the $15 is probably the absolute minimum they could probably charge in order to turn some kind of profit. Yeah, the cost of porting the game to the GBA is next to nothing and of course, they are not developing a new game from scratch but you have to take into account the marketing, packaging, manufacturing, delivery and material costs for the games.

Having said that, Big N shoulda made these into 3-packs at the very least. That way we could justify each game at $5 a piece in a $15 3-game cartridge.

But for the complainers, just remember, this is Big N's world, we're just lucky enough to play their games. I say that sarcastically, and seriously.

The funny thing for me though, is that all my truly favorite NES games have been remade (or will be remade) for the GBA. Or there are better sequels on the GBA. This stuff is just a lot of fun, for nostalgia's sake. I'll probably pass on this though.

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Undead Fred

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"Re(2):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sat 12 Jun 22:59

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Having said that, Big N shoulda made these into 3-packs at the very least. That way we could justify each game at $5 a piece in a $15 3-game cartridge.

Well, yeah. That's basically the point we're trying to make- this "oh, look at the nostalgia you can experience with the re-release of these ancient NES games!" thing that Nintendo's doing is just another chance for them to milk their classics dry. It's not so much that they're releasing them for the 5th time, but it's that they're selling them SEPARATELY for $20 EACH. That's ridiculous. I really hope no one buys them (although, like I said before, there are some who will).

CrazyMike

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"Re(3):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sat 12 Jun 23:29

I can understand charging to make up for the packaging and cost of the plastic/chips, but come on, they can fit more than one game on a catridge. Collections would be better, such as Zelda 1 and 2, or Mario 1-3.

...I voted for Solomon's Key by the way @_@

Undead Fred

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"Re(4):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sun 13 Jun 00:13

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I can understand charging to make up for the packaging and cost of the plastic/chips, but come on, they can fit more than one game on a catridge. Collections would be better, such as Zelda 1 and 2, or Mario 1-3.

...I voted for Solomon's Key by the way @_@

Oops, I meant to mention that in my response. Heh heh. Sorry, I'm pretty tired today.

Spoon

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"Re(4):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sun 13 Jun 00:14

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...I voted for Solomon's Key by the way @_@

You, sir, are a true man of taste.

They should do this like Jaleco: they released a GBA cart with a pack of good 8-bit games (CITY CONNECTION, in addition to others!) and with a new GBA ver. of one of their old games.

But what I really wanted was multiplayer City Connection, where players can either compete to paint the city within a given time, or cooperate.

And in the competitive mode, police cars that you knock away will paint your color (with painting duration increased by combo count), and you can turn in the air multiple times, and you can shoot each other with paint cans (causing the opponent to temporarily paint YOUR color). The result would be a fast-paced paintfest complete with Matrix-style aerial station wagon duels. Oh yeah, and different vehicles, with varying jump/speed/heaviness (for knocking police cars etc.). Fug, I want to make that game.

Magus Darkstar
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"Re(1):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sun 13 Jun 00:49

I WANT CLASH AT DEMONHEAD GODDAMMIT

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Ishmael

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"Re(2):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sun 13 Jun 14:03

I like that Golgo 13 and the NES version of Strider somehow made it onto that list. While I enjoyed both of those games I'm not really sure I consider them classics. Would the games be updated to have less clunky controls or have added features like an in-game map for all those mazes Duke Togo kept bumbling his way into?

Undead Fred

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"Re(3):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sun 13 Jun 15:30

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I like that Golgo 13 and the NES version of Strider somehow made it onto that list. While I enjoyed both of those games I'm not really sure I consider them classics. Would the games be updated to have less clunky controls or have added features like an in-game map for all those mazes Duke Togo kept bumbling his way into?

I consider Golgo 13 a classic... But yeah, an in-game map would be nice.

That, and some kind of much less irritating version of those mazes on Metal Gear... I swear, there's no possible way to figure those out unless you sit there all day long just racing through the mazes to try and stumble on the right combination of directions. I mean, it's not like it'll tell you if you're getting them right...

Spoon

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"Re(4):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Sun 13 Jun 20:21

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Strider not being a classic

I thought it was pretty damn cool back then, no matter how easy the enemies were to beat. It had so many design elements put together all at once and had way cool music. Ok, the triangle jump programmer deserves DEATH, but even that could be overcome with time/luck. Classic? I wouldn't say an instant one. One of the best 8-bit games? Certainly.

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Metal Gear mazes

I know what you mean. I have no idea where exactly the "repeating screen maze" fad started (somewhere between Zelda 1 and Mario 1, I imagine, seeing as how they both have them), but THANK GOODNESS it died like the fad it was. The first one of those batards in Metal Gear was actually manageable. The second one caused me significant and unwarranted stress.

EddyT

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"Re(5):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Mon 14 Jun 00:36

I didn't anticipate this thread to turn into what it did, but I can't blame it for doing so. I also don't like the idea of Nintendo overcharging for the privilege of playing NES games on a GBA, but I decided to post the survey for anyone's interest anyway. Just hoping the next wave of games doesn't involve games that aren't that great or have appeared in previous GBA collections for a much better value.

Iggy

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"Re(6):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Mon 14 Jun 01:21

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Just hoping the next wave of games doesn't involve games that aren't that great or have appeared in previous GBA collections for a much better value.

There is one game that was already re-released on GBA but was absolute crap : Boulder Dash. I think it's my favourite NES game, cute, hard and catchy, and the GBA version was the crappyest crappy piece of crap they could crap on the name. So I do hope they will release the original NES version. I would really pay 20$ for this.

But then, if they don't, the rom is here to stay.

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Ishmael

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"Re(7):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Mon 14 Jun 13:02

Hmm, maybe I should clarify my remark about Stider and Golgo not being "classic" NES games. My main reason for being suprised at seeing them listed was that I didn't think they had the name recognition among casual players that your Zelda or Mario games enjoy and wouldn't be able to cash in on that sense of nostalgia. It didn't have anything -or at least not much- to do with how the games played.

Now that I think about it, why doesn't somebody bring Golgo 13 in all his violent, misogynistic glory to the current generation of consoles? With games like the Max Payne and Hitman series out there one would think the time is ripe for Golgo to return to games.

Also, Stider's triangle jump was the worst thing ever. The first Batman NES game [a game based on a movie based on a comic] had a beautiful wall jump but one of the videogamedom's greatest super ninjas couldn't do a wall jump correctly? What was that all about?

Undead Fred

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"Re(8):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Mon 14 Jun 13:17:

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Hmm, maybe I should clarify my remark about Stider and Golgo not being "classic" NES games. My main reason for being suprised at seeing them listed was that I didn't think they had the name recognition among casual players that your Zelda or Mario games enjoy and wouldn't be able to cash in on that sense of nostalgia. It didn't have anything -or at least not much- to do with how the games played.

Heh heh. True, I didn't think of it that way. I could see the commercial now- the guy with the CRAIZY 80'S CLOTHEZ playing his retro-style GBA and the voice-over says, "Go back in time with Golgo 13 on the Game Boy Advance!" And 95% of the viewing audience either says, "Gol... wha? 13? What the hell is that? A time travel game?"

Or just simply, ". . ."

Meanwhile, people like the MMCafe board members will be saying, "Ah, the man with the custom M16! Those mazes were a pain."

[this message was edited by Undead Fred on Mon 14 Jun 13:18]

Spoon

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"Re(8):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Mon 14 Jun 13:34

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Now that I think about it, why doesn't somebody bring Golgo 13 in all his violent, misogynistic glory to the current generation of consoles? With games like the Max Payne and Hitman series out there one would think the time is ripe for Golgo to return to games.

Problem is, Golgo's harshness might not seem very interesting to today's audiences, where back then it was Mortal Kombat shocking. Plus the whole custom M16 thing to me always sounded silly, and would sound even sillier today.

It's like the comic Punisher POV: damn if that isn't the best Punisher ever, complete with some of the best over-the-top noir-style writing, but since most kids today have seen Max Payne first, they'll think "Max Payne ripoff!111!!!11!". Which is sad.

Undead Fred

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"Re(9):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Mon 14 Jun 13:45

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Problem is, Golgo's harshness might not seem very interesting to today's audiences, where back then it was Mortal Kombat shocking. Plus the whole custom M16 thing to me always sounded silly, and would sound even sillier today.

Heh heh. The game only seemed slightly harsh to me in the first place, because when I first played the game, I was so young I didn't understand the true reason why Duke Togo's health went up in those hotel scenes after the lights went out....

Spoon

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"Re(10):Nintendo survey: classic NES games to" , posted Mon 14 Jun 13:48

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Problem is, Golgo's harshness might not seem very interesting to today's audiences, where back then it was Mortal Kombat shocking. Plus the whole custom M16 thing to me always sounded silly, and would sound even sillier today.
Heh heh. The game only seemed slightly harsh to me in the first place, because when I first played the game, I was so young I didn't understand the true reason why Duke Togo's health went up in those hotel scenes after the lights went out....

Togo pre-empted GTA3, I know.

Undead Fred

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"Re(2):Re(10):Nintendo survey: classic NES ga" , posted Mon 14 Jun 14:49

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Togo pre-empted GTA3, I know.

Well, I was trying to make the point that I didn't really pick up on the grittiness of the game or whatever when I first played it because I only saw it as a spy story and you were running around shooting people. The feel of the game still had this sort of unsettling quality to it that I couldn't quite put my finger on, though.

I will say this, though... having the game lock up at the final boss fight after you spent all day fighting through it is aggravating.