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exodus

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"GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Fri 4 Jun 01:32

yeah, my E3 coverage is still rolling out.

got a sammy studios writeup, in which I get my butt handed to me in GG Isuka, and a large writeup on Ys 6, which did not really impress.

Still got more to write, but will I ever? Time will tell!

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Magus Darkstar
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"Re(1):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Fri 4 Jun 04:14

quote:
yeah, my E3 coverage is still rolling out.

got a sammy studios writeup, in which I get my butt handed to me in GG Isuka, and a large writeup on Ys 6, which did not really impress.

Still got more to write, but will I ever? Time will tell!

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Phoenix

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"Re(1):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Fri 4 Jun 04:56

Nice review. Well, at least they ported it...which is a great sign for future actually. Now I really do want Ys 4 Eternal...and Xanadu Eternal 1 & 2...and Dragon Slayer 2 Eternal...and I want JDK back... Look what you did!

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exodus

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"Re(2):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Fri 4 Jun 10:45

I want JDK back too...
You know, they ported Legend of Xanadu to the PC, so maybe there's hope of a port from Taito? They're porting a lot of other titles, so....maybe.

Amakusa

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"Re(1):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Fri 4 Jun 23:34

Psh. Whatever man.

I don't belong in the camp that says the Attack button is a sin. I've played it both ways, and yes, the no Attack button thing is rather novel, but at the same time it artificially limits what you can do, period.

You take out that Attack button, you may as well not have a Jump button. Or any Magic effects other than something that's completely passive, like health regeneration.

I find it funny that you were complaining about leveling up, because in both Ys III and Mask of the Sun I sat around in the first area and leveled up until I hit the maximum level (I ended up not doing that for Ys V, which kind of hurt later on)-- every frickin' time.

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Spoon

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"Re(2):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Sat 5 Jun 00:27

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because in both Ys III and Mask of the Sun I sat around in the first area and leveled up until I hit the maximum level (I ended up not doing that for Ys V, which kind of hurt later on)-- every frickin' time.

I call it the "classic RPG answer": the moment you get your opening characters, sit around in the opening area and level them until they hit the game maximum. There are few old RPGs that can withstand this strategy. And it's fantabulously boring.
Games shouldn't need you to do BS like that.

Amakusa

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"Re(3):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Sat 5 Jun 00:45

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I call it the "classic RPG answer": the moment you get your opening characters, sit around in the opening area and level them until they hit the game maximum. There are few old RPGs that can withstand this strategy. And it's fantabulously boring.
Games shouldn't need you to do BS like that.

Thing is, you don't actually need to do that, but the game doesn't try to stop you, either.

Such as, I never did something that inane in Faxanadu or The Adventures of Link.

I found Kagami's sword in a junk yard.
I will rule the world

and find that truly good cup of coffee.
"Dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-do."

Iggy

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"Re(4):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Sat 5 Jun 01:38:

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Such as, I never did something that inane in Faxanadu or The Adventures of Link.

Exaggeratedly beefing up characters is one of my favorite things in RPGs... I think I usually hit the maximum level in Link around castle 2 or 3... I remember I ran to kill the blobs in Y's 3 for hours as soon as I was able to make them even 1 point of damage... My whole team was yûshasama before I hit the end of the first CD in DQ7... Beck was nearly level 40 by the end of FM4... I got at least 5 or 6 demons level 255 in Megaten 3 when I finished it the second time...
Who can resist the call of the "Oh, but wait, I only need 100 more exp points to level up this character! Oh, but if I kill 5 more monsters, I will have enough money to buy this armor! Oh, but now, this other character needs only 120 points to level up! (etc)" ?

On the other side of the spectrum, I remember trying a speedrun of FF6 (without ever using the vanish+death combo), and I needed more than 1 hour to defeat the whole ending boss with a team of 6 characters with a level between 25 and 28.
Gnah.

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[this message was edited by Iggy on Sat 5 Jun 01:55]

Spoon

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"Re(5):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Sat 5 Jun 02:03

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Ys 3

Damn those blobs, too slow, I said.

I can't even remember the location names anymore. But I do remember in this one part of a castle/dungeon, after you step out of one of the doors, these flying things swoop down on you. So all I have to do is hold up+attack for the buzzsaw blade and heal periodically. If I'm going to mindlessly level, it may as well be easy :)

Shin_ATproof

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"Re(6):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Sat 5 Jun 05:02

Ahh can't wait to play Isuka again...this time at home. I agree with the "problem" of having to manually turn your character. It is something most of us aren't used to but trust me...it becomes natural really quickly. Took my friends and I about 4 hours(we were mostly messing around since it was a beta) before we felt comfortable with it.
The beat'em up mode should be fun...hope they add a story mode. Finally another reason to buy a multitap...the first was Kinnikuman Generations(freak'n awesome) now this game.

Glad to know the US version of Spy Fiction is still in progress...that has been on my "must play or I will die" list for quite some time.

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exodus

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"Re(7):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Sat 5 Jun 12:31:

well, my point about the leveling up was more that in the other style, I found it fun. In this one, I did not. Plus in the past, I could eat a sandwich while I did it.

And you'll note that I did imply that you might as well get rid of the jump, since it seems to be used only for specific puzzles, not for world exploration, which is kind of lame. That might change, but I definitely couldn't jump on stuff it looked like I should be able to.

I don't follow you to 'get rid of magic', I don't think that comes from what I said at all.

I really liked 3, by the way. It was the easiest one, but it was cool by virtue of the different scenarios it had, quite different from the original two.

Plus the sword was more fun to use there because it looked like a white banana.

oh yes, and Isuka...I don't want it to take me four hours to 'get used to it', because I don't think any of my friends are going to be willing to put in that kind of time investment (they're not gamers, generally). It's going to be a big turnoff for those non-hardcore types.

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Spoon

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"Re(8):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Sat 5 Jun 12:54

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oh yes, and Isuka...I don't want it to take me four hours to 'get used to it', because I don't think any of my friends are going to be willing to put in that kind of time investment (they're not gamers, generally). It's going to be a big turnoff for those non-hardcore types.

So in the end, QOH'99 SE is still the winner?

Shin_ATproof

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"Re(9):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Sat 5 Jun 13:15

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oh yes, and Isuka...I don't want it to take me four hours to 'get used to it', because I don't think any of my friends are going to be willing to put in that kind of time investment (they're not gamers, generally). It's going to be a big turnoff for those non-hardcore types.

Like I said...the reason it took 4 hours(just a guess, it was probably less) was because we were messing around on a beta version(it was very incomplete, some characters didn't even have specials) with crappy joysticks(they were 4 way) and a stupid button layout(it wasn't like a normal Guilty Gear)THAT on top of the fact that none of us were used to having to manually control the turning of a charcters.

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Spoon

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"Re(10):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Sat 5 Jun 13:18

I'm just curious... can you switch facing mid-block/FD?

Because if you can't, crossups followed by ground attacks are going to doom this game.

exodus

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"Re(2):Re(10):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Sat 5 Jun 15:22

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I'm just curious... can you switch facing mid-block/FD?

you can 'block' with your back. looks weird, but it works.

Spoon

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"Re(3):Re(10):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Sat 5 Jun 15:54

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I'm just curious... can you switch facing mid-block/FD?

you can 'block' with your back. looks weird, but it works.

So SFA-style double-side blocking is in, huh?

It's probably for the best.

Pollyanna

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"Re(4):Re(10):GG Isuka and Ys 6 impressions" , posted Sun 4 Jul 16:11

I guess the jump isn't necessary in Ys6, but there is a fair amount of platforming in many of the mazes. Also, you can jump on some things just for fun, and it gives a more "full" feel to the world. Ah...it's also necessary for dodging many bosses.

I mean, sure...it's not NECESSARY, but neither are the spells of having 3 swords or anything else fun.

I'm a bit disappointed with the soundtrack as a whole, though...not because it's bad, but...well, when I go back and listen to Ys I&II (PC-Engine), there's no comparison. At least it has the super awesome boss theme, though.

I'm finally finished doing all the extra junk in Ys6 (as of last week) so it's time to move onto Legend of Heroes 6, I suppose.