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| DarkZero 767th Post
 
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|  "New DMC3 Info"
, posted Wed 12 May 20:32
The new Devil May Cry 3 demo at E3 cleared up a lot of the questions that we had about the game. From GameSpot and, unfortunately, IGN, who has the better article and better images:
- Yes, Virgil is in the game. No one has any screenshots of him yet, but he appears as a swordman who wears a blue version of Dante's outfit and has Dante's hair. And if he's alive, then we can probably assume that Dante's mother is alive, because Trish indicated in DMC that they had died/disappeared around the same time.
- The game will feature a behind-the-back camera option for those who hate the fixed camera angles.
- The new characters include Lady, a female demon hunter who wants to eradicate all demons (including Dante), and Arkham, "a mysterious dark man".
- A strange bit of feature-laden word vomit from IGN: "The ability to fly, use tricked out guitars as a weapon, and enjoy more interactive backgrounds are all part of the fold; as is the ability to equip four different kinds of weapons at one time that can further be switched between on the fly for some interesting combo variations."
- As always, the team is going to add more bonus stuff if they can, in this case more fighting classes than the four already announced.
- The areas will be a lot tighter, so there will be fewer cheap shots from unseen enemies.
And finally, something I just found on Capcom's English Devil May Cry site:
"Note: In PSM's June 2004 issue, the Devil May Cry 3 article contains misinformation. Ryuhei Kitamura is not involved with the project. The action director, Yuji Shimomura is actually the person involved in Capcom's Devil May Cry 3 game."
And PSM confirms it.
And finally, I really wonder how the story will turn out. In Devil May Cry, Dante never knew who was responsible for what happened to his mother and brother. The story seems to be consistent so far, so I wonder if the game will have any real resolution at the end.
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| Mosquiton 1191th Post
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| "DMC3 hands-on + swimming in word vomit" , posted Mon 17 May 14:20:
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- A strange bit of feature-laden word vomit from IGN: "The ability to fly, use tricked out guitars as a weapon, and enjoy more interactive backgrounds are all part of the fold; as is the ability to equip four different kinds of weapons at one time that can further be switched between on the fly for some interesting combo variations."
I can tell you what triggered IGN's gag reflex in this case... bullet points from a press release! In fact the text is so similar they probably forgot to chew!
I think I can clarify the 'equip four different kinds of weapons at one time' part.
What I believe this refers to is that you can switch between guns (in the demo, the pistols and a shotgun) with L2. Presumably, because the in-game description of Dante's 'Swordmaster' style says you can utilize different swords, you can switch melee weapons with R2. It might even be printed on cardboard instructions... I can't remember.
I'd think that in the menu you can set two ranged and two close weapons, then switch freely without constantly disrupting the action. The DMC3 demo at E3 didn't even have a menu screen (yet). I hope RE4 does something similar... goddamned menus.
Some other interesting things...
'Swordmaster' style gives you a standing buzzsaw move and lets you throw your sword (ala DMC's 'round trip') and bust out a few martial arts moves while you wait for it to get back.
'Gunslinger' style gives you a -useful- version of 'rain storm' (ala DMC2) that, instead of having Dante shoot straight down like a dipshit, makes him spin and lays down fire in a small radius, providing enough stun to keep you from being hit by those enemies right when you land. 'Twosome time', like all style-specific moves in the demo, is handled with circle. So, unlike DMC2 you can shoot at multiple targets whenever you want, making it cool-looking and useful.
'Trickster' is press circle to flip-dodge and wall-run. It's bascially DMC2 Dante with no frills, really a little boring, but man do you miss the dodge when you play the other styles.
The rapid thrusting 'million stab' (that's what they call it in the trailer) move is back, and I was able to do it fairly consistently, but I'm still not sure if combo variation relies on timing, direction, or both. Likewise I wasn't quite able to figure out the lock-on system, but it always seemed to go with the closest enemy.
Really everything seemed much closer to the original DMC than DMC2. That is, the mechanics weren't sloppy as all hell and progression seemed fairly focused. If I didn't say already, I liked it.
If they do end up putting in an alternate camera mode, I hope it's more clever than simply fixing the camera right behind Dante. That seems like it would lead to more off-screen sucker shots than it would prevent.
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| DarkZero 779th Post
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| "Re(1):DMC3 hands-on + swimming in word vomit" , posted Mon 17 May 17:25
Thanks for the info, Mosquiton. I do have a couple more questions, though...
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'Swordmaster' style gives you a standing buzzsaw move and lets you throw your sword (ala DMC's 'round trip') and bust out a few martial arts moves while you wait for it to get back.
Does Round Trip actually work in this version, though? In DMC, you could toss Alastor and then pull off some bare-fisted Ifrit-style punch and kick attacks, but I never used it because A) it took too long to charge, and B) even at full charge, it still came back too quickly to follow up with a bare-fisted attack.
And did you get to see the flying "Aeriel Rave" attack at all? That was one of the coolest attacks in the trailer, with Dante attacking an enemy, flinging him up in the air, and then continuing to attack him in the air. I even saw the Air Hike symbol in there somewhere. I sort of wondered how it worked in practice.
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| Mosquiton 1193th Post
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| "Re(2):DMC3 hands-on" , posted Tue 18 May 06:26:
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Does Round Trip actually work in this version, though? In DMC, you could toss Alastor and then pull off some bare-fisted Ifrit-style punch and kick attacks, but I never used it because A) it took too long to charge, and B) even at full charge, it still came back too quickly to follow up with a bare-fisted attack.
No charge time at all. Just pressing forward on the analog stick and circle and it's as good as flung.
I was able to go through two or three fist and foot combos before the sword returned, Dante also has a nice diving kick from the air... I'd say the move lasts around five easy seconds.
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And did you get to see the flying "Aeriel Rave" attack at all? That was one of the coolest attacks in the trailer, with Dante attacking an enemy, flinging him up in the air, and then continuing to attack him in the air. I even saw the Air Hike symbol in there somewhere. I sort of wondered how it worked in practice.
This happened once by accident, but it was more like two swings and sans air-hike (which may be an unlisted Trickster move, I fooled around with that style the least). I had no idea the enemy would stay suspended in the air like that... it amuses me that it's like a much more stylish version of Legacy of Kain: Defiance's airplay (who copied 'high time' directly). Could be another Capcom counter-rip-off, or just more VS inspired combo-madness.
Now that I think about it, there seems to be another Dante move that may be style specific. I found that holding the button, or direction, or both, put the sword in a reverse grip behind your back... then swinging ripped a force wave across the ground. Ah, in the trailer it's called 'Drive'.
This wasn't listed in the Swordmaster text, but 'Fireworks' (fancy shotgun shooting that's just badass looking) wasn't listed under Gunslinger, either.
Actually, the reps seemed pretty impressed I was even able to pull off the 'million stab'. It just pays to screw around.
It wasn't possible to buy upgrades in the trailer unfortunately, so no hints of moves to come other than what was seen...
And just so I don't hold anything back, I don't think there's an official answer on whether or not you're stuck with a style once you choose it, but before the available mission there were two options, 'mission start' and 'customize'(thankfully not called 'My Dante', nothing stylish or hard about that...) that let you switch styles... my bet would be you can switch between stages.
Edited because I wanna.
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| DarkZero 782th Post
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| "More DMC3 Info" , posted Wed 19 May 01:18
I decided to pick up this month's issue of PSM so I could read all of the stuff that I couldn't make out in the scans. All of it is rather suspect, given that PSM A) made a really big deal out of Ryuhei Kitamura's involvement with DMC3 when he really has no involvement with it at all, and B) repeatedly referred to the boss that appeared in the E3 demo as a "Cerebus" monster, a creature which you will not find in any dictionary, but that apparently has some relation to Cerberus.
- Dante is the only playable character in DMC3. Not "only playable character, not including the secret unlockable ones". He's just the only playable character. Officially, Tsuyoshi Tanaka, the producer of the DMC series, reportedly said that we "won't see a second character who's playable for the entire game". Then again, he also allegedly told them that, "Kitamura and the game's director meet weekly to discuss the cinemas", which is just completely not true, so maybe there's hope for a playable Virgil after all.
- Styles are based on a levelup system. It says that "Once the required level is met," you will be able to buy a new skill, but it wasn't clear if this "level" is an overall level, a style level, or a skill level (like using Stinger 100 times to get Stinger Level 2 or something). Either way, it seems to be based on a "use it to improve it" kind of upgrade system, which strikes me as very strange. It seemed to me that most people swore off using Ifrit in DMC1 until they had gotten enough red orbs to buy most of their Ifrit skills. If you couldn't do that, then I think most people would've just stuck with Alastor, using only one fighting style for the entire game. Isn't that what people will do with this system?
- You might be able to change styles WITHIN missions. PSM has a picture of the Pause menu and if you look very closely, you'll see that the options under "Equip" are "Guns", "Swords", and "Styles". The equip menu in DMC1 let you switch guns and swords on the fly within every mission, so if styles are there, then they probably work the same way.
- Taunts are still in. Even though there doesn't seem to be a devil trigger any more, or at least not until much later in the game, there's still a screenshot of Dante using taunts.
- Each mission will have an intro and ending movie.
- The producer promises that there will be lots of "cool" moments in the game, both through camera tricks and player actions, but that they probably will be (were?) excluded from the E3 demo. I have no idea what this means, other than maybe some kind of tate-like system?
- PSM is dumb. In one section of the article, they say that, "The game opens with a shocker: Dante is not the only son of the legendary Dark Knight. In fact, he has a brother..." It then goes on to describe the opening movie and the way that the conversation between Dante and a mysterious man (Arkham?) who comes into his office often matches the conversation between Dante and Trish in DMC1 almost word-for-word. Somehow, in their in-depth analysis of the DMC1 intro movie, they fail to notice that Trish mentions Dante's brother in that intro movie. And even though the article makes frequent references to DMC1, how great it was, and how it differs from DMC3, they somehow managed to completely forget who Nelo Angelo is. It's as if they got that whole section of the article from a press release and then chopped it to pieces with their foolishness.
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| Ishmael 1399th Post
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| "Re(1):More DMC3 Info" , posted Wed 19 May 07:54
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I decided to pick up this month's issue of PSM so I could read all of the stuff that I couldn't make out in the scans. All of it is rather suspect, given that PSM A) made a really big deal out of Ryuhei Kitamura's involvement with DMC3 when he really has no involvement with it at all, and B) repeatedly referred to the boss that appeared in the E3 demo as a "Cerebus" monster, a creature which you will not find in any dictionary, but that apparently has some relation to Cerberus.
At some point in DMC3 you get to beat up Dave Sim? This game is going to be great!
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- Styles are based on a levelup system. It says that "Once the required level is met," you will be able to buy a new skill, but it wasn't clear if this "level" is an overall level, a style level, or a skill level (like using Stinger 100 times to get Stinger Level 2 or something). Either way, it seems to be based on a "use it to improve it" kind of upgrade system, which strikes me as very strange. It seemed to me that most people swore off using Ifrit in DMC1 until they had gotten enough red orbs to buy most of their Ifrit skills. If you couldn't do that, then I think most people would've just stuck with Alastor, using only one fighting style for the entire game. Isn't that what people will do with this system?
- You might be able to change styles WITHIN missions. PSM has a picture of the Pause menu and if you look very closely, you'll see that the options under "Equip" are "Guns", "Swords", and "Styles". The equip menu in DMC1 let you switch guns and swords on the fly within every mission, so if styles are there, then they probably work the same way.
The styles thing sounds interesting even though I still have concerns about how it is going to be implimented. Will it be possible to level up all the styles during the course of a regular game? If not, will you still be able to make it through the game if you only concentrate on one or two styles? I would hate to get up to some late boss and find I need some style I've neglected in order to beat it. Or will there be enough overlap between the styles that you can muck your way through no matter what? I do, however, like the leveling up method of gaining moves instead of using orbs. In DMC1 I could never shake the feeling I was buying moves out of some sort of supernatural vending machine.
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| Mosquiton 1196th Post
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| "Re(2):More DMC3 Info" , posted Wed 19 May 08:56:
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The styles thing sounds interesting even though I still have concerns about how it is going to be implimented. Will it be possible to level up all the styles during the course of a regular game? If not, will you still be able to make it through the game if you only concentrate on one or two styles? I would hate to get up to some late boss and find I need some style I've neglected in order to beat it. Or will there be enough overlap between the styles that you can muck your way through no matter what?
One thing to keep in mind is that no matter what style you choose you (judging from the demo) still have all your basic moves and weapons. You always have stinger and high-time, and all three styles can pick up the shotgun and put it go good use.
Unless they artificially make enemies vulnerable to only one type of move, you'll always have metal, lead, and the means to deliver them.
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I do, however, like the leveling up method of gaining moves instead of using orbs. In DMC1 I could never shake the feeling I was buying moves out of some sort of supernatural vending machine.
Well, you still collect orbs and there's a non-functioning (in the demo) supernatural vending machine right before the boss...
From things I've read, I think you may put points into the style as a whole. For example, bring the style's overall level to level 2 and you get a couple more style specific moves.
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| Mosquiton 1197th Post
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| "Re(4):More DMC3 Info" , posted Wed 19 May 17:09
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While PSM mistakingly said the name of the action director, they did not reveal the name of the game's main director. They said it is being kept secret. Also, they said it's not Shinji Mikami or Kamiya since they are busy with other projects. All they said was the new director was famous for "Throwing Fireballs." which leads me to believe the main director of the game will be Noritaka Funamizu, the main person behind Street Fighter.
Also, the two drawings in PSM regariding DMC3 are obviously done by Kinu Nishimura who's worked with Funamizu time and time again providing artwork for SF2, Cyberbots, SF3 and the CVS series.
Hmm, that's interesting. Funamizu doesn't often direct, but he did direct the arcade version of The Punisher... I believe he was producer for DMC2.
Surely it couldn't be Tanaka (director of DMC2) again. Regardless, the E3 demo felt good. Good enough to where I didn't even mind Dante shouting "Breakdown!" for no apparent reason during combat. I hope I feel this way about the finished game.
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| Ishmael 1402th Post
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| "Re(3):More DMC3 Info" , posted Thu 20 May 11:51
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One thing to keep in mind is that no matter what style you choose you (judging from the demo) still have all your basic moves and weapons. You always have stinger and high-time, and all three styles can pick up the shotgun and put it go good use.
Unless they artificially make enemies vulnerable to only one type of move, you'll always have metal, lead, and the means to deliver them.
Ah, okay, the styles are more variations on a theme than different items altogether like Infrit and Alistor were in DMC1. I think my main concern was that you were going to get into a situation where an enemy was a pain in the neck except for one particular weapon that can only be equipped if you have a high enough standing in one style. But I'm sure the game producers had more sense than to do something like that... I hope.
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Well, you still collect orbs and there's a non-functioning (in the demo) supernatural vending machine right before the boss...
From things I've read, I think you may put points into the style as a whole. For example, bring the style's overall level to level 2 and you get a couple more style specific moves.
A purchase/earn mixture for moves wouldn't be bad either. That, and you still need orbs to buy healing items, extra life, and all that sort of stuff.
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| Vava
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| "NEW?New DMC3 Info" , posted Sat 22 May 19:39
Quoted from gamestop forums:
Here are some confirmed facts about Devil May Cry 3. Most of which are from PSM, and some of them are from Mr. Ben Judd. A confirmed Capcom-VIP from japan who visits the gamefaqs.com message boards time to time.
I call it, 24 reasons why DMC3 is aimed to please.
1) This time there will actually be somwhat a story, as this explains how Dante realizes who he is, we meet his brother, a female counterpart who actually has a purpose (unlike the friggin Lucia), DMC1 had a poor story, whereas DMC2 has, if at all, a horrible story.
2) Whereas it will be produced by the producer of DMC2, this guy was new when he was enlisted for DMC2, he went on producing Resident Evil: Outbreak as well as the well-received Monster Hunter (in Japan), hes probably learned his mistakes from DMC2. However, he is only the producer, not the brains behind the game content.
3) The game will be directed by a Capcom legend who's "very good at throwing fireballs" who is the creator of Street Fighter 2, Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo, and the Street Fighter Alpha series, and that is a VERY good thing. (( if this is true, the director will be NORITAKA FUNAMIZU ))
4) Dante will actually TALK a lot this time, unlike part 2, and hell be doing it in a way where we can truly call him "badass" again.
5) The games cutscenes and CGs will be directed by Ryuhei Kitamura (Metal Gear Solid - Twin Snakes) whom, if you played Twin Snakes, can make the best cutscenes EVER.
6) The graphics have changed highly. DMC2 uses a repurposed DMC1 engine, while DMC3 will use a brand new fully 3D engine - special effects, lighting, shadow, weather effects (rain n fog), reflections, even destructible environments.
There is even high attention to detail - any weapon NOT equipped will be shown on Dantes body, unlike DMC1 & 2.
7) The brand new Style system will provide new things for the DMC world - different styles of play, different moves, its like reasons to play again n again or leveling up in many different ways which makes fighting enemeies even more fun.
The games length will not be short this time around like DMC2's 5 hours (with BOTH characters ) this time its going to be at least as long as the first one, which is a good 10 hours+ and thats great for an action game.
9) There will be a decent amount of puzzles here unlike the coarse supply of puzzles in DMC2.
10) There will be a new arsenal of moves this time - and they will serve a purpose this time not like 2 had - not to mention kicks, punches, even blocks and counter attacks.
11) After trying out the game, PSM said that the combo system of DMC3 will blow away the combo system of DMC1. Did u read right? Blow away the combo system of DMC1!!!!!!!!!
12) The levels in DMC3 are designed to test players long range AND melee abilities EQUALLY, whereas in DMC2 the game was too easy due to the large environments.
13) Much of the staff members who worked on the first DMC are present here.
14) There will be intro movies for EVERY mission as well as completion movies, whereas in DMC2 not only did we get 1 intro movie for every 4 missions, but boring ones as well.
15) Err...this game will have a stylish pause screen.
16) Almost all the enemies are brand new and Tanaka said the game will be much more "challenging" than u think.
17) The bosses are said to be smart, bad, big, and hard. Not like the ones in DMC2 who didnt even look good (except the tower or building or whatever.)
1 The game will have a great orchestral soundtrack that consists of rock, techno-trance, and haunting tunes like castlevania.
19) The game environments are much more interesting this time around, as the game contains 2 different worlds (the real world and the demon realm), so far there is a demon arena (looks like a colisseum), dantes shop, the streets that dante shop is in, a strip club, several shops, a demon tower, and much more to be revealed. In DMC1 the whole game took place in only 1 area.
20) Not much of a reason, but as proof that this game will be awesome, people will get to try it out on e3 and see for themselves, so this time, capcom isnt trying to hide it till release.
21) Hideki Kamiya (director of DMC1) is back to supervise DMC3. Kamiya will be working on three games at once, DMC3, VJ2, and Okami. That is why he is considered the co-director of DMC3 and VJ2. Not head director.
22) There will be hours+ of cinemas directed by the genius behind movies such as Versus, and Returner as well as motion capture work for MGS: Twin Snakes.
23) DMC3 has four gameplay styles (GunSlinger, SwordMaster, Trickster, and Royal Guard) as opposed to DMC1's two gameplay styles. (Alastor and Ifrit)
24) Nobody from the DMC2 development team will touch DMC3.
25) Stephanie Cheeva, a 30-time gold medalist in martial arts will conduct the motion capture. Under the direction of Ryuhei Kitamura.
--GunSlinger sets more priority to gun moves and has it's own set of upgradable gun related moves.
---SwordMaster sets more priority to sword moves and has it's own set of upgradable sword related moves.
---Trickster sets more priority to parry's and evasive moves.
----Royal Guard sets more priority to the martial arts. And has it's own set of upgradable martial arts moves. (Ifrit)
It has been said that more will be announced at E3.
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| DarkZero 793th Post
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| "Re(1):NEW?New DMC3 Info" , posted Sat 22 May 19:56
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5) The games cutscenes and CGs will be directed by Ryuhei Kitamura (Metal Gear Solid - Twin Snakes) whom, if you played Twin Snakes, can make the best cutscenes EVER.
22) There will be hours+ of cinemas directed by the genius behind movies such as Versus, and Returner as well as motion capture work for MGS: Twin Snakes.
23) DMC3 has four gameplay styles (GunSlinger, SwordMaster, Trickster, and Royal Guard) as opposed to DMC1's two gameplay styles. (Alastor and Ifrit)
25) Stephanie Cheeva, a 30-time gold medalist in martial arts will conduct the motion capture. Under the direction of Ryuhei Kitamura.
If you had actually read even a small part of the thread before posting, you would know that this is crap. PSM and Capcom have already confirmed that Ryuhei Kitamura is NOT involved with DMC3. But if your "confirmed Capcom-VIP from japan" says it, then I guess they must be wrong.
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It has been said that more will be announced at E3.
E3 was about a week ago. Hence all of the E3 reaction articles linked in this thread.
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| DarkZero 807th Post
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| "Re(3):NEW?New DMC3 Info" , posted Mon 31 May 18:23
Gametrailers.com has some new DMC videos up. There's a gameplay video from E3, a video of the intro movie from E3, and a funny, but somewhat lame Viewtiful Joe PS2 trailer featuring Dante and Trish. The E3 videos are basically bootlegs, which means that the sound is pretty much crap. You can hear some of the louder portions of the gameplay video, but the intro video is completely drowned out by the sound of other people playing the demo.
The gameplay video shows off some impressive graphics, but it also makes me worry a bit. The game is either pretty easy or the AI is incomplete. The enemies mostly stand around doing nothing or launching really ineffective attacks that can only hit you if you're standing perfectly still, and the boss let the video's somewhat crappy player execute the same combo four or five times in a row with no real punishment. He wasn't able to just stand back and keep shooting it like everyone says you could in DMC2, but it didn't try to fight back very often, either.
One thing I found interesting is the way that the low level enemies (the scythe-wielding demons) fight. They attack you in swarms that are large enough to fill the screen (eight or nine at a time) and they constantly try to swarm you, but all of their attacks knock Dante back about a screen to a screen and a half away. So they have the visual effect of swarming you without ever actually overwhelming the player.
Also, I don't know if this was in DMC2 or not, but it seems like all of Dante's sword attacks now have a sort of "force field" of splash damage around them. And it seems like all of his normal combos cause Dante to swing his sword above, behind, and beside his body. So whenever you attack an enemy, you inevitably end up hitting at least two or three others around you. The whole thing kind of reminded me of Dynasty Warriors with guns...
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| Mosquiton 1205th Post
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| "Re(4):NEW?New DMC3 Info" , posted Mon 31 May 21:47:
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The gameplay video shows off some impressive graphics, but it also makes me worry a bit. The game is either pretty easy or the AI is incomplete. The enemies mostly stand around doing nothing or launching really ineffective attacks that can only hit you if you're standing perfectly still, and the boss let the video's somewhat crappy player execute the same combo four or five times in a row with no real punishment. He wasn't able to just stand back and keep shooting it like everyone says you could in DMC2, but it didn't try to fight back very often, either.
Well if you'll notice the player actually gets killed by those scythe-wielding enemies in that first part. That's why the screen goes red.
The AI may very well not be incomplete, but I died several times while screwing around with the demo. It felt a lot like the original DMC to me in terms of how and when I got hit.
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Also, I don't know if this was in DMC2 or not, but it seems like all of Dante's sword attacks now have a sort of "force field" of splash damage around them. And it seems like all of his normal combos cause Dante to swing his sword above, behind, and beside his body. So whenever you attack an enemy, you inevitably end up hitting at least two or three others around you. The whole thing kind of reminded me of Dynasty Warriors with guns...
Don't assume too much from this relatively crappy gameplay video. I only saw one combo that was perpetually interrupted by the swordmaster twirly trick. Anyway, a lot of the basic sword combos do cover more area (as was the case in DMC2), but there's no 'force field' effect or anything... the blurring effect on the blade is more or less the same as it's always been.
I can certainly say the game feels nothing like Dynasty Warriors...
As for the boss, that's not a complete capture of the fight... it also breaks out from the wall and charges you at certain points. Getting all up in his face works well for some good damage, but if he catches you with an attack you seem to lose at least 1/4th of your life.
Sorry I didn't have someone vid me when I played. Heh.
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| DarkZero 808th Post
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| "Re(5):NEW?New DMC3 Info" , posted Mon 31 May 23:09
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Well if you'll notice the player actually gets killed by those scythe-wielding enemies in that first part. That's why the screen goes red.
The AI may very well not be incomplete, but I died several times while screwing around with the demo. It felt a lot like the original DMC to me in terms of how and when I got hit.
I actually thought that the enemies had knocked him into the next room and that the red was sort of like the zoom/swirl effect when changing rooms in DMC. So it's good to know not only that it's hard, but that there isn't any cheap and/or buggy shit like enemies knocking you into other rooms.
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Don't assume too much from this relatively crappy gameplay video. I only saw one combo that was perpetually interrupted by the swordmaster twirly trick. Anyway, a lot of the basic sword combos do cover more area (as was the case in DMC2), but there's no 'force field' effect or anything... the blurring effect on the blade is more or less the same as it's always been.
I can certainly say the game feels nothing like Dynasty Warriors...
It's just that in the video, when the fights were close-up, it looked like the damage actually started at the blur effect, rather than the actual sword, which would mean a much larger hit area when using the sword. Am I wrong about that?
And the Dynasty Warriors thing wasn't really referring to the gameplay, but rather the look of the game. It has that cool One Man Vs. The World appearance (at least in the first level) that Dynasty Warriors has, but it doesn't do it by actually sending a million lame-ass enemies after you... like Dynasty Warriors does. It's just a nice aesthetic touch for an action game.
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As for the boss, that's not a complete capture of the fight... it also breaks out from the wall and charges you at certain points. Getting all up in his face works well for some good damage, but if he catches you with an attack you seem to lose at least 1/4th of your life.
Sorry I didn't have someone vid me when I played. Heh.
Actually, around 2:15 and 2:37, you can see the boss charge at him. He just managed to dodge it perfectly both times. Then again, that could have been his eighteenth try, so I'll take your word for it.
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| Mosquiton 1206th Post
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| "Re(6):NEW?New DMC3 Info" , posted Tue 1 Jun 21:09:
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I actually thought that the enemies had knocked him into the next room and that the red was sort of like the zoom/swirl effect when changing rooms in DMC. So it's good to know not only that it's hard, but that there isn't any cheap and/or buggy shit like enemies knocking you into other rooms.
There's no way this is one continuous play, since there are swordmaster and gunslinger moves shown...
Although, looking back it is possible that Dante was knocked into the next area (you could run through the first few areas without killing all the enemies). His health is a sliver at the most, though.
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It's just that in the video, when the fights were close-up, it looked like the damage actually started at the blur effect, rather than the actual sword, which would mean a much larger hit area when using the sword. Am I wrong about that?
I guess I'm not exactly sure what you mean... as far as I can tell the blur never extended past the length of the blade (as in DW). The swings themselves are quite broad though.
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Actually, around 2:15 and 2:37, you can see the boss charge at him. He just managed to dodge it perfectly both times. Then again, that could have been his eighteenth try, so I'll take your word for it.
He's not quite on par with the lava spider, but he hits pretty hard.
Wish I had a copy of the demo...
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