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TalbainEric

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"What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 17:02

With the sudden news emerging from E3 over the brand new handhelds being developed,Sony's PSP and Nintendo's DS,which do you prefer,and which one will you get?

I wasn't too thrilled until I heard that Darkstalkers is gonna be for the PSP system. I'd love to have the game on a handheld system. The thought of playing my Talbain on the small screen is not too be missed. Of course,I will still await the lineup of games for it. So,I might get a PSP.

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Hungrywolf

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"Re(1):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 17:08

quote:
With the sudden news emerging from E3 over the brand new handhelds being developed,Sony's PSP and Nintendo's DS,which do you prefer,and which one will you get?

I wasn't too thrilled until I heard that Darkstalkers is gonna be for the PSP system. I'd love to have the game on a handheld system. The thought of playing my Talbain on the small screen is not too be missed. Of course,I will still await the lineup of games for it. So,I might get a PSP.

DS. So far I've heard Animal Crossing DS, Mario Kart DS, Metroid Prime: Hunters, NEW Super Mario Bros., Super Mario 64X4, WarioWare Inc. DS not to mention what else will surely show up on the system at some point. I'm excited about the DS though. It's something a little different from other handhelds. Plus I'll admit, I'm a huge Nintendo fan.

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OmegaDog

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"Re(1):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 17:11:

There's going to be good games on both. But just because there's the potential of different experiences on the DS, I'd most likely go for that first. Even if my first impressions of the design aren't that great. (I know that shouldn't be an important factor -- but doesn't the design just look PLAIN?!)

Ah, well -- I'll probably eventually warm up to the design.

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"Re(2):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 17:19

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There's going to be good games on both. But just because there's the potential of different experiences on the DS, I'd most likely go for that first. Even if my first impressions of the design aren't that great. (I know that shouldn't be an important factor -- but doesn't the design just look PLAIN?!)

Ah, well -- I'll probably eventually warm up to the design.

I think the DS sounds the most interesting.
But the psp sounds like it has better wifi. (not bluetooth but 802.11((g, hopefully))Which of these do u think will be able to surf the net with or listen to music with better.

Also the psp has wipeout......
decisions, decisions.

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"Re(2):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 17:26:

I suppose I should mention in this thread also why I find the design botheringly plain: Normally, I only see loads of unmarked & featureless plastic and those kinds of round edges on cheap electronics. And I know this won't be a cheap toy.

We'll see how it looks with logos, though.

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"Re(2):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 18:04

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DS. So far I've heard Animal Crossing DS, Mario Kart DS, Metroid Prime: Hunters, NEW Super Mario Bros., Super Mario 64X4, WarioWare Inc. DS not to mention what else will surely show up on the system at some point. I'm excited about the DS though. It's something a little different from other handhelds. Plus I'll admit, I'm a huge Nintendo fan.

Hmmm that's the first I've heard of all that on the DS, sounds tempting. I will probably keep my eyes on both, but I hope Nintendo can do something truly original (and entertaining).

But unless either system does something really exciting, I hope to stick with the Gameboy Advance for as long as possible.

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"Re(3):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 18:16

I don't know if Wipeout will be the same, though... didn't the original team who made Wipeout 1-3 break up?

The DS sounds pretty interesting and innovative, while the PSP seems to have tons of promise. I'll definitely get both if I can, but I'll have to see more of the DS before I'm convinced. Hopefully, it'll be quite a leap graphically compared to a GBA... and the two extra buttons are a plus.

Dragon-Warrior

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"Re(3):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 18:17:

even thought i am a big nintendo fan i would say the PSP looks better to me.
but THE GAMES are the most important factor which will make me buy the system, so far Most of the PSP games are ports nothing impressive on the other hand the DS might be way more interisting if Animal Crossing , New Super mario Bros. , Mario kart DS... have Online functions it will be a blast!
also remember the DS have a wireless LAN(bluetooth) AND a wifi.
if the PSP got really neat looking NEW games i would be way more interisted also i know IT WILL COST ALOT-_- .
in the END I AM GETTING BOTH!

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Ammadeau

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"Re(4):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 21:13

New Nippon Ichi SRPG on PSP = PSP wins by landslide.

PS - Metroid DS looks laughably bad and the other DS games don't look much better.

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Radish

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"Re(1):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 21:57

Most of the Nintendo games are just [Nintendo franchise] DS so I'm not very interested as of now. Not that the PSP isn't like that too, but Nintendo has a history of milking their franchises.

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"Re(2):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 22:49

Nintendo has a history of milking their consumers. How long after the DS launch will the GBA2 come? I give it a year or less. And that one will have a bad design too.

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"Re(3):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 23:16

Given that I'm only really intrested in the GBA as a the final home for 2-D, and given that alot of PSP and DS titles look like PSX/PS2 titles and N64 titles I think I'll pass on both machines and stick with the home consoles.

Although I think the DS will have a leg up just because Sony has a habit of shipping very touchy hardware during the first generation of the console. You can fight through that in the home market, but given the wear and tear a portable goes through I worry about the PSP...

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"Re(3):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 23:32

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Nintendo has a history of milking their consumers. How long after the DS launch will the GBA2 come? I give it a year or less. And that one will have a bad design too.

The only real ways I can think of Nintendo as a milking company would be as regards Pokemon, and possibly even Mario Party. And those were software. I wouldn't really say Nintendo has a milking history.

Or what examples might I be leaving out?

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"Re(4):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 11 May 23:49

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The only real ways I can think of Nintendo as a milking company would be as regards Pokemon, and possibly even Mario Party. And those were software. I wouldn't really say Nintendo has a milking history.

Or what examples might I be leaving out?

Uhh, have you seen the DS release list? It's all ports and horrible looking additions to old franchises. There's not a new game to be seen. Yet people are already jumping for joy to play portable versions of games they played on the N64. Lame.

And it's odd that every DS title so far is 3D, but the PSP has at least two 2D titles thus far, even if Vampire Savior is only just a port.

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OmegaDog

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"Re(5):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 00:16:

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Uhh, have you seen the DS release list? It's all ports and horrible looking additions to old franchises. There's not a new game to be seen. Yet people are already jumping for joy to play portable versions of games they played on the N64. Lame.

And it's odd that every DS title so far is 3D, but the PSP has at least two 2D titles thus far, even if Vampire Savior is only just a port.

I've seen the list. Yeah, there is a lot of stuff I've seen before on home consoles -- stuff that I might just pass up.

But when I think of a history of milking, I tend to think more of stuff like what Capcom has done -- even if we see it as perfecting the formula. Either way, unless I'm forgetting missing something, I wouldn't say Nintendo's software habits have been like Capcom's -- or that their hardware habits are analogous to Capcom's actions with some of their more well-known franchises.

EDIT: Dammit -- and even then, I can't think of too many series Capcom has milked outside of MegaMan and Street Fighter. Dammit, I'm gettin' OLD!

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"Re(6):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 02:08

My prediction is that the DS will keep Nintendo on top with the PSP in second, but the PSP will offer the biggest competition Nintendo has seen in the portable market and will have the potential to overtake Nintendo in time.

So long as the big N keeps the software for it quality though, I don't think they should worry too much.

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"Re(7):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 02:39

Yeah, Sony has the PSP. Never underestimate Sony. If any other company had made a portable, we all knew they would have probably been dead in the water. But this is Sony...

The PSP does have a cool factor. But for me, that's going to be overtaken by the 'ouch that's expensive factor' and the 'ooh, doesn't have any good games/just ports' factor. Its cool that you can play movies on it. But hey, that just means you'll have to re-buy your favorite movies on the UMD format. No thanks.

The DS on the other hand-- scares me. It can be something real great or just a GBA plus nearly useless gimmicks. We'll see. The Mario 64x4 interests me. If its just crawling around the castle, kicking and punching other players-- well, that sounds like enough fun for me. Seriously. But we'll see. I think the DS has the most to offer gamers. The PSP is just a portable PS2-- that may be good enough for some folks though. Not me.

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"Re(5):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 02:51

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New Nippon Ichi SRPG on PSP = PSP wins by landslide.

If Gyakuten Saiban on DS is a new game, then the DS explodes the PSP, the X Box 2, the PS3 and the Superball.
That, or SNKP makes a Card Fighters 3 on PSP, and then I will cry and sell my body to buy both.

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"Re(6):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 02:54

quote:
New Nippon Ichi SRPG on PSP = PSP wins by landslide.
If Gyakuten Saiban on DS is a new game, then the DS explodes the PSP, the X Box 2, the PS3 and the Superball.
That, or SNKP makes a Card Fighters 3 on PSP, and then I will cry and sell my body to buy both.

SNKP will make Card Fighters 3, but it will suck and you will curse Imoya's name for it. Again.

Iggy

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"Re(7):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 02:55

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SNKP will make Card Fighters 3, but it will suck and you will curse Imoya's name for it. Again.

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"Re(8):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 03:09

PSP...

The current demo of some of the games gave me two reasons:

1)Darkstalkers
2)Metal Gear

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Ammadeau

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"Re(8):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 03:44

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'ooh, doesn't have any good games/just ports' factor.

NEW NIPPON ICHI SRPG!!

Seriously, with a 100 hours worth of gameplay you're not even going to need other games for a long, long time. Heck, I haven't cracked a hundred on CFC2 yet and that's lasted me over a year of portable gaming.

DS seems to be pushing multiplayer games, which doesn't interest me on a portable system at all. It's inconvenient and limits when, where, and for how long I can play. Leave that to the consoles.

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"Re(9):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 04:55

quote:
NEW NIPPON ICHI SRPG!!

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Joe Randel
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"Re(1):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 06:13

Man... the DS is some kinda ugly... it's like, fugly ugly. How am I supposed to fit that in my pocket? And I'm not sure about using the second screen to diplay maps... that's a bit lame if you ask me.

Ultima

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"Re(2):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 07:23

At the moment, I see this as N64 vs. PS1 redux.
Nintendo has the advantage, but the PSP looks really nice (but what about the price?) and seems very promising. But in the end, I think it could very well end up with DS = All your Nintendo Favourites, and PSP = Better for Everything else.

Prediction: WHichever system gets a port of a Final Fantasy (a real one that is, not something like Tactics or =Cystal Chronicles) or Dragon Quest will win.

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"Re(3):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 07:46

quote:
At the moment, I see this as N64 vs. PS1 redux.

Actually, if you look at the specs, it's a N64*2 vs PS2.

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Ultima

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"Re(4):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 08:31

> Actually, if you look at the specs, it's a N64*2 vs PS2.

Meh. You get the idea. :p

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"Re(2):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 09:06

Both of the systems look awesome. On the DS I was expecting something better than picto chat. Maybe a new version of Mario Paint. It is also nice of them to include the ability to play gba games on it.

quote:
With the sudden news emerging from E3 over the brand new handhelds being developed,Sony's PSP and Nintendo's DS,which do you prefer,and which one will you get?

I wasn't too thrilled until I heard that Darkstalkers is gonna be for the PSP system. I'd love to have the game on a handheld system. The thought of playing my Talbain on the small screen is not too be missed. Of course,I will still await the lineup of games for it. So,I might get a PSP.

DS. So far I've heard Animal Crossing DS, Mario Kart DS, Metroid Prime: Hunters, NEW Super Mario Bros., Super Mario 64X4, WarioWare Inc. DS not to mention what else will surely show up on the system at some point. I'm excited about the DS though. It's something a little different from other handhelds. Plus I'll admit, I'm a huge Nintendo fan.

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"Re(1):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 09:21

quote:
With the sudden news emerging from E3 over the brand new handhelds being developed,Sony's PSP and Nintendo's DS,which do you prefer,and which one will you get?

I wasn't too thrilled until I heard that Darkstalkers is gonna be for the PSP system. I'd love to have the game on a handheld system. The thought of playing my Talbain on the small screen is not too be missed. Of course,I will still await the lineup of games for it. So,I might get a PSP.

DS.
The PSP lineup just doesn't appeal to me, AT ALL.

Then again, I probably won't have money to get either so I should stop whining.

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OmegaDog

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"Current DS design a non-final prototype" , posted Wed 12 May 09:45

Some of you might've already seen it, but here anyway:

... Nintendo demonstrators were keen to point out that the system shown was actually a non-final prototype that will more than likely go through a few more revisions before its debut at the end of the year.
(Source: IGN: E3 2004: Hands-on: Nintendo DS)

So they do have a hands-on model of the DS, but it won't be the final hardware design. With that in mind... the casing won't be such an issue for me then.

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Phoenix

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"Re(1):Current DS design a non-final prototype" , posted Wed 12 May 13:25

It's always more a matter of software than hardware. Although PSP looks rather huge to me and I wonder about PSP's battery life as well. They should have just named it PS2 Pocket Color...except it doesn't fit in your pocket...and maybe weaker than PS2. DS seems much more innovative. We'll see.

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OmegaDog

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"Re(2):Current DS design a non-final prototype" , posted Wed 12 May 13:37

quote:
It's always more a matter of software than hardware. Although PSP looks rather huge to me and I wonder about PSP's battery life as well. They should have just named it PS2 Pocket Color...except it doesn't fit in your pocket...and maybe weaker than PS2. DS seems much more innovative. We'll see.

It might fit into a jacket pocket -- and it might have its own battery.

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"Re(3):Current DS design a non-final prototype" , posted Wed 12 May 13:50

I think both the PSP and DS look very interesting and promising so far. It's too early for me to say which one I prefer, but I can say that I really like the PSP's design at least. I probably won't buy any of them though... I really never had a large interest in handhelds. Then again, GBA is almost changing that, and if the PSP or DS offer even more interesting stuff I might end up buying one of them. Who knows?

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TeirusuCSS
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"Re(9):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 15:20

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DS seems to be pushing multiplayer games, which doesn't interest me on a portable system at all. It's inconvenient and limits when, where, and for how long I can play. Leave that to the consoles.

How is being able to take your game and play it almost anywhere limiting when and where you play? I can understand batteries making your playtime somewhat limited (Though I'm sure the battery life won't be THAT terrible, it isn't on GBA) but the rest makes no sense to me at all. Unless your friends are cheap and just won't get their own DSes.

Overall I really like the potential the DS has for new gaming experiences wheres the PSP just feels like I'm carrying a PS2 around, which I really would rather play at home.

Also, I don't care if it's 2.5D. It's about DAMN time Nintendo made a new 2d-ish Mario game.

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talbaineric

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"Re(10):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 19:49

Yeah,the majority seems to want a DS. But isn't this gonna be priced in this 150 dollar range? That's mucho dinero.

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"Re(1):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 20:29

I read it somewhere that the PSP's battery life is around 10 hours and the PSP will cost $150.

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"Re(2):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 20:37

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I read it somewhere that the PSP's battery life is around 10 hours and the PSP will cost $150.

So ok the DS is gonna have wifi compatible. So does that mean it will be able to connect to the internet and find other players? It said it supports up to 16 players (for bluetooth im assuming.)

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"Re(2):Re(10):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 20:58

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Yeah,the majority seems to want a DS. But isn't this gonna be priced in this 150 dollar range? That's mucho dinero.

Why do you care what other people think!? Geeze, your constant mewling about critics reviews, sales data and general popularity on everything is getting annoying. And if you think the DS is pricey at $150, the PSP is probably going to be even more expensive.

BTW, add something meaningful to the conversation, instead of constant 'me too' comments. You don't have to post everytime.

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"Re(3):Re(10):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 21:48

quote:
BTW, add something meaningful to the conversation, instead of constant 'me too' comments. You don't have to post everytime.

Fear of this kind of talk is why I rarely post.

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"Re(3):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Wed 12 May 21:50

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So ok the DS is gonna have wifi compatible. So does that mean it will be able to connect to the internet and find other players? It said it supports up to 16 players (for bluetooth im assuming.)

PSP is also wifi. Yes, you can connect to the internet, though you'll need additional hardware for your computer.

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"^_^" , posted Wed 12 May 21:54

quote:

Fear of this kind of talk is why I rarely post.

Me too

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"Re(1):^_^" , posted Wed 12 May 21:56

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Fear of this kind of talk is why I rarely post.

Me too

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"Re(2):Re(10):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Thu 13 May 00:19

quote:
Yeah,the majority seems to want a DS. But isn't this gonna be priced in this 150 dollar range? That's mucho dinero.

Well, that's what a GBA SP costs over here, so if the DS will be in the same price range, I won't be complaining. :P

lordbyronius
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"Re(1):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Thu 13 May 01:23

DS, but with some trepidation. Nintendo has a history of coming out with neat, awesome-o gadgets on their hardware that are somewhat cumbersome and end up severely underused. The touch-screen is a nifty trinket, yeah, but damned if I'm coming up with any logical applications it could have in a video game.

That said, seeing as the PSP and the DS will probably cost about the same, I'm still sticking by Nintendo. To put it simply, and to borrow what another posted as an argument AGAINST Nintendo: The DS will have ports and/or continuations of poplular Nintendo franchises. Mario Kart, Mario 64x4, Metroid, YAY. A PSP Metal Gear sounds nice, as does the Darkstalkers port, but nothing short of a sexual relationship can come between me and my love of Mario Kart.

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"Tactile screen" , posted Thu 13 May 05:44:

Someone reports about the tactile screen of the DS : while playing Made in Wario, a minigame of "hit them!" or slash them!" where you have to use the pen to kill ennemies, the guy was caught in the game and began to slash like a madman and point ennemies with strength, but the screen had absolutely no scar after. Also, neither the swet nor the fingerprints were a problem. It's a relief to see Nintendo made his gadget with good products ; Sony would have made it with a crappy screen that would break in 3 month so you would have to buy new console to play.
...
...
...Too bad Nintendo is doing it... I can foresee lots of interesting uses of the tactile screen in... a few third party adventure games...

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"Re(2):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Thu 13 May 05:48

quote:
but nothing short of a sexual relationship can come between me and my love of Mario Kart.

I like that quote. Best thing I've read today. Of course, it's still early.

I also love Mario Kart and the fact that I know that Nintendo franchises will be on the DS is one of the reasons I prefer it to a PSP. Especially because I'm pretty sure Zelda will show up at some point.

I also want to say that I'm pretty sure the PSP is going to cost $100 more than the DS. Of course that is based purely on assumption. I just seriously doubt it will be $150, like an earlier poster said they heard.

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"Re(3):Re(10):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Thu 13 May 18:11

quote:
Yeah,the majority seems to want a DS. But isn't this gonna be priced in this 150 dollar range? That's mucho dinero.

Why do you care what other people think!? Geeze, your constant mewling about critics reviews, sales data and general popularity on everything is getting annoying. And if you think the DS is pricey at $150, the PSP is probably going to be even more expensive.

BTW, add something meaningful to the conversation, instead of constant 'me too' comments. You don't have to post everytime.

Yeah yeah,whatever. I'm not posting to please you or anyone else.

Something that recently came to mind,concering the PSP's disk size,how much memory will that small of a disk hold?

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VManOfMana

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"Re(4):Re(10):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Thu 13 May 19:10

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Yeah,the majority seems to want a DS. But isn't this gonna be priced in this 150 dollar range? That's mucho dinero.

Why do you care what other people think!? Geeze, your constant mewling about critics reviews, sales data and general popularity on everything is getting annoying. And if you think the DS is pricey at $150, the PSP is probably going to be even more expensive.

BTW, add something meaningful to the conversation, instead of constant 'me too' comments. You don't have to post everytime.

Yeah yeah,whatever. I'm not posting to please you or anyone else.

Something that recently came to mind,concering the PSP's disk size,how much memory will that small of a disk hold?

Eric, Luisinan has a point. There is a reason why you are not the most liked person in this forum. What Luisinan said, what Baghead says and what others say is for a reason. Stop for a second and THINK why do you think is that.

And concerning your question, that has been answered before. At least one of the links related to the PSP should have the answer.

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Kaepora

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"Re(4):Re(10):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Thu 13 May 19:29

quote:
Something that recently came to mind,concering the PSP's disk size,how much memory will that small of a disk hold?

Sony's Universal Media Disc spec says it'll hold up to 1.8 GB. Essentially, just a bit more than a GameCube disc will hold.

More important to me is that the disc itself will be enclosed in a protective caddy (like the very old Macintosh CD drives needed) at all times. That should cut down the chances of scratched discs.

Regarding the topic: I'm not too thrilled about either one. Don't have a GBA either. I don't think handhelds are my thing, so I'm not going to try and rain on anyone's parade.

ONSLAUGHT

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"You big meanie" , posted Thu 13 May 19:53

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Eric, Luisinan has a point. There is a reason why you are not the most liked person in this forum. What Luisinan said, what Baghead says and what others say is for a reason. Stop for a second and THINK why do you think is that.

Don't be so mean.

Poor eric

beto

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"DS - 199 bucks" , posted Thu 13 May 20:15

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/13/news_6098137.html

Radish

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"Re(1):DS - 199 bucks" , posted Thu 13 May 20:31

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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/13/news_6098137.html

If the PSP debuts in that range I might have to get one. Admitedly $200 for all the crap packed into the DS seems like a good deal.

Cain Highwind

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"Re(2):DS - 199 bucks" , posted Thu 13 May 22:22

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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/13/news_6098137.html

If the PSP debuts in that range I might have to get one. Admitedly $200 for all the crap packed into the DS seems like a good deal.

I originally heard the DS was going to be 150 and the PSP was going to be 250. *shrug* Don't know if there'll be the same kind of drastic difference in price. If there is, I'd probably go with the DS for that reason alone.

Other things that I like about the DS

+Finally an SNES style button setup!
+Nintendo Franchise games look interesting (something somewhat fresh and new, and not just N64 ports ala the "Advance" series)
+Touch screen, Dual Screen, and Voice supported games sound fun
+Backwards compatibility with GBA (an essential feature IMHO)
+Wireless connectivity and only one game needed (sounds fishy as Gamespot says you could do this with a GBA, but if it's true...)

-Plain Design
-Haven't seen much interesting 3rd party support.
-Doesn't look quite as powerful as the PSP

And my summary of comments on the PSP

+Nice, slick design
+Looks powerful (spec wise)
+Portable DVD!
+Definetely a better attempt than the NGage

-It's Sony (there's probably some part that's flimsy and/or easily wears out in a short period of time like it's bigger brother, the PS2)
-I'm not too thriled on buying the same movie I have on DVD at the same if not greater price JUST to watch it on the go.
-Asides from Vampire Chronicle, I haven't seen anything worthwhile in the PSP lineup.
-Possibly more expensive than the DS

Joe Randel
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"Re(1):DS - 199 bucks" , posted Fri 14 May 06:15

$199 bucks seems a bit pricey for me and I can't imagine the PSP being any cheaper. I might hold off on this one. PLus I'm in Canada so if it's $199 bucks US then it'll be like $249 CAN :(

VManOfMana

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"Re(2):DS - 199 bucks" , posted Fri 14 May 07:23

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$199 bucks seems a bit pricey for me and I can't imagine the PSP being any cheaper. I might hold off on this one. PLus I'm in Canada so if it's $199 bucks US then it'll be like $249 CAN :(

Well, that's the price that some retailers are putting for preorder. AFAIK an official price has not been given by Nintendo yet.

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"Re(3):DS - 199 bucks" , posted Fri 14 May 07:56

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$199 bucks seems a bit pricey for me and I can't imagine the PSP being any cheaper. I might hold off on this one. PLus I'm in Canada so if it's $199 bucks US then it'll be like $249 CAN :(

Well, that's the price that some retailers are putting for preorder. AFAIK an official price has not been given by Nintendo yet.

I can't believe they are taking pre-orders for 200 dollars when the actual MSRP hasn't even been named yet. I hope the $150 rumored price is what it ends up at. In either case, I think it'll still cost less than the PSP. And in either case, I'll still buy the DS.

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Radish

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"Re(4):DS - 199 bucks" , posted Fri 14 May 08:15

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$199 bucks seems a bit pricey for me and I can't imagine the PSP being any cheaper. I might hold off on this one. PLus I'm in Canada so if it's $199 bucks US then it'll be like $249 CAN :(

Well, that's the price that some retailers are putting for preorder. AFAIK an official price has not been given by Nintendo yet.

I can't believe they are taking pre-orders for 200 dollars when the actual MSRP hasn't even been named yet. I hope the $150 rumored price is what it ends up at. In either case, I think it'll still cost less than the PSP. And in either case, I'll still buy the DS.

Well if you don't preorder now you'll never be able to get one and have to spend $1000 on ebay. The guy at Gamestop told me so, so I preoredered 5 just to be sure.

Mozex

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"Re(3):DS - 199 bucks" , posted Fri 14 May 09:31

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+Wireless connectivity and only one game needed (sounds fishy as Gamespot says you could do this with a GBA, but if it's true...)

You CAN do this with the GBA. Some examples:
You can play Advance wars with limited maps/commanders/units.
You can play Mario cart with limited tracks and drivers.

Basically the game data is sent to the other GBA over the link cable and held entirely in internal memory. This is limiting because the link has very low bandwidth and GBA doesn't have a whole lot of memory.

Most games don't support it though because you'll (probably) sell fewer copies of the game - as you won't need 1 cart per player.

Be kind to goblins.

x977
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"Re(1):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Fri 14 May 11:17

I will most likely get both of them,but the main thaig that im woried about is...

Battery life!!

DS might have a good battery life since there's no moving parts inside.

PSP on the other hand,has to spin that UMD and hopefully,it wont drink up batteries like a nomad.

Other than that....they both look pretty good. just don't drop em!!

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Hungrywolf

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"Re(2):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Fri 14 May 11:50

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just don't drop em!!

At least don't drop the PSP. My Nintendo products can all take a pretty good beating though, and I don't think the DS will be an exception. Time will tell.

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Ammadeau

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"Re(3):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Fri 14 May 20:34

Battery life of PSP is rumored to be 3 hours.
What's the battery of the DS supposed to be?

Updated when I can... which isn't very often. ^_^;;

Cain Highwind

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"Re(4):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Sat 15 May 00:58

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Battery life of PSP is rumored to be 3 hours.
What's the battery of the DS supposed to be?

It was confirmed by Gamespot to be 2.5 for video and 10 hours for Audio only. Not to reassuring if you ask me.

I haven't been able to find the EXACT specs for the DS as far as batter life goes, other than it's the same type of rechargable battery of the GBASP which I believe is 10 hours.

I really think Miyamoto said it best that while the PSP is a powerful handheld console, the DS will offer features not seen before. I really look forward to that. So far I would hardly call the DS games "laughingly horrible" Metroid Hunters looked and played fantastically so I've heard. The Super Mario Brothers DS looked great as well.

I found this article by the way. Well written, showing some nice comparisons and thoughts between the two handhelds. Check it out.

http://www.ferrago.com/story/3620

And some more DS game shots here. Looks like the second screen won't be JUST maps after all.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0405/game051304e.shtml

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Ammadeau

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"Re(5):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Sat 15 May 01:47

No way is the DS going to have the same battery life. It's a more demanding system. Sure, it doesn't have a disc to spin and eat up juice, but the GBA is a pocket calculator in comparison.

In truth, I have nothing against the DS and it looks much better than I thought it would, but really none of the games even remotely interest me.

I use a stylus with my tablet all the time and the mouse on my notebook computer is a touch pad. Sure, you can make gimmicky games for such things, but nothing that's going to sustain my interest for long.

PSP isn't overflowing with gaming goodness at this point, but I'd even buy an N-gage if it had a nippon ichi srpg on it and Metal Gear Acid looks suprisingly interesting.

The battery life is harsh though.

Updated when I can... which isn't very often. ^_^;;

VManOfMana

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"Re(6):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Sat 15 May 04:30

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No way is the DS going to have the same battery life. It's a more demanding system. Sure, it doesn't have a disc to spin and eat up juice, but the GBA is a pocket calculator in comparison.

The DS is using ARM processors. What makes you think that it will have a shorter battery life than a PDA (other than maybe it may consume twice as much energy because there are two processors)?

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Mozex

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"Re(7):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 18 May 23:33

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The DS is using ARM processors. What makes you think that it will have a shorter battery life than a PDA (other than maybe it may consume twice as much energy because there are two processors)?

An ARM is just a type of processor. Without knowing the exact processors, there really isn't a way to accurately state anything.

Be kind to goblins.

DarkZero

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"Re(7):What will it be-PSP or DS?" , posted Tue 18 May 23:46

quote:
No way is the DS going to have the same battery life. It's a more demanding system. Sure, it doesn't have a disc to spin and eat up juice, but the GBA is a pocket calculator in comparison.

The DS is using ARM processors. What makes you think that it will have a shorter battery life than a PDA (other than maybe it may consume twice as much energy because there are two processors)?

Well, I think it's really just basic math. If a PDA, which typically has one color LCD screen and one processor, eats up a certain amount of juice, then two color LCD screens and two processors will eat up a greater amount of juice. I doubt that the DS will actually run out of battery power twice as fast as the average PDA, but I wouldn't be surprised if the battery drain was around 1.5x that of a PDA. And it's also powering a sound system and constant external data access (the DS or GBA cartridge), which are two things that you can do with a PDA, but that you only do every so often, rather than 100% of the time that you're using it.

Mosquiton

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"Not games... demos that may become games" , posted Wed 19 May 09:35

Everything that Nintendo showed for the DS was to be treated like an interactive tech-demo that may, someday, become a game. Possibly. I hope Metroid Prime: Hunters isn't one of them, because honestly it sucked badly.

Using the stylus to control your view is a rotten idea. It's like holding a lightgun -right- up to the screen. I don't really want to bring foreign objects into the game world. Not only that, all you need to do to kill someone is hold the small shoulder button to 'lock on' and just pound the hell out the screen with the stylus. I can vouch for how sturdy it is, because my friend was murdereing the damn thing and draining full life in about three seconds.

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