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Cain Highwind

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"How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(US DC)?" , posted Tue 4 May 18:34

Okay guys, I need advice. Of course I've played a little of Rival Schools and Star Gladiator for the PS1. I was just curious how their DC sequels are. I heard the US version of PJ had some stuff removed, and I was just wondering about Plasma Sword (I thought the original PS1 game was somewhat interesting, but kind of bland in extras and overall "presentation")

Thanks a bunch

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Spoon

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"Re(1):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Tue 4 May 18:59

quote:
Okay guys, I need advice. Of course I've played a little of Rival Schools and Star Gladiator for the PS1. I was just curious how their DC sequels are. I heard the US version of PJ had some stuff removed, and I was just wondering about Plasma Sword (I thought the original PS1 game was somewhat interesting, but kind of bland in extras and overall "presentation")

Thanks a bunch

The thing that was removed in PJ was clearly something that would've sold in JP and just about nowhere else... it was a sort of dating game.

In the US ver, they just made a bunch of "bonus" characters out of the school students models combined with random combinations of PJ/RS moves.

Plasma Sword I don't know about.

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"Re(1):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Tue 4 May 19:04

quote:
Okay guys, I need advice. Of course I've played a little of Rival Schools and Star Gladiator for the PS1. I was just curious how their DC sequels are. I heard the US version of PJ had some stuff removed, and I was just wondering about Plasma Sword (I thought the original PS1 game was somewhat interesting, but kind of bland in extras and overall "presentation")

Thanks a bunch

Personally I just didn't like Plasma Sword as much as part 1. Not that I could say one's gameplay was better than the other. But more of the overall aesthetics. Part 1 was like a merge of Star Wars like romanticised sense of adventure, and strange Japanese futurism. Its music and presentation reflected this. I love the mysticism of Gore's theme and the epic marching Bilstein themes, and the easy rock.

But Plasma Sword is like a different beast all together. It felt just cheaper. The tekken style of making characters, easily abusive super art/reversal dependant gameplay, explosive color schemes and the bad cheesy riff music.

In its defense it does have a better story w/ multiple or expanded endings. And it has Rain a very cool character. I kind of wish they hadn't decided to make Plasma a fighting game. Its characters and world would benifit better imo if it was an adventure or rpg. Like a the new modern Phantasy Star rpg that Sega refuses to make.

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"Re(2):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Tue 4 May 19:11

Both are great games in my opinion... and I think they shouldn't be overlooked. Project Justice was stripped down a little in the US... they removed the bonus board game and didn't include some alternate costumes you could download in the JP version. Graphically I think PJ is Capcom's best looking 3D fighter, combined with Edyan's awesome artwork and some interesting new characters. They also added 3 person teamup attacks as well as the ability to counter team attacks. It basically took everything good from Rival School 1 and 2, and made a great game.

Plasma Sword is pretty good also... but graphically less pretty since it wasn't designed for Naomi like Project Justice. It's basically the same deal cast wise... where every character has a counterpart character with basically the same movelist. They toned down the counterattacks from Star Gladiator to make them a little weaker and less cheap. Also they changed the combo system quite a bit... in Star Gladiator you did a chain combo that would end in a super attack... but in Plasma Sword the supers are now done Marvel vs Capcom style. Plasma Sword has some of the most original designs I've seen in a fighting game... Rain and Byakko are just awesome, there's even a guy who fights with a giant chainsaw.

If I had a choice between the two, I'd go for Project Justice first, but they're both worth checking out... so is Tech Romancer.

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"Re(1):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Tue 4 May 19:31

Plasma Sword is teh best game ever and anyone who doesn't agree is a GRAFIX WHORE!!!!!!111111112

It's faster than SG1, and Plasma Strings are generally shorter and more useful, and has shiny Plasma Fields. The backgrounds and music aren't as good as SG1, but I prefer the faster gameplay.

There really aren't that many ways to play cheaply in Plasma Sword thanks to the nature of the normal moves/plasma strings and the fact that a well timed Plasma Field can counter 90% of things in the game.

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"Re(2):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Tue 4 May 19:56

Project Justice is awesome. :) I loved it. Way better than RS1,trust me on this. The music and stages are better,and the story mode plays just like a comic book.

Plasma Sword I can't comment on. Never tried it before.

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"Re(1):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Tue 4 May 20:18

Plasma Sword rules. I liken it to playing a 2D fighter with side-steps. Yes, half the characters are clones of each other (the only difference being esthetics and super moves-- EXCEPT the two hidden characters are a bit more different than the character they're based off of. I speak of Kaede - Rain and Rai-On - Byakko). As someone who has played the arcade version, the DC's graphics are a significant improvement over what was probably meant for the PS1 (the arcade's graphics were extremely blocky-- man, you guys harping on the DC version's graphics don't know how much worse it was). Oh, and there is a somewhat of a story to it (the manual would have you think it centers around the Ghost of Bilstein, but it doesn't), but you can't really piece it together until after you played through with all of the characters.

I do have a crappy gameplay movie I made of it as a demo sitting around if you want to see it (it involves Zelkin fighting Omega and my rather shitty attempts to finish him with a super move-- and ended up finishing in a Plasma Field instead).

Oh yeah, and Bilstein's got an Optimus Prime helmet this time around.

Project Justice is a very direct arcade port; can't really go wrong with that. You won't really miss the board game/create-a-character.

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Cain Highwind

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"Re(2):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Tue 4 May 22:17

Thanks a bunch guys for the opinions. I was mostly wondering since I haven't been able to find Project Justice anywhere except Amazon.com (charging between 40-50 dollars for a used copy). And as for Plasma Sword, they're selling it at Gamestop for 15$ (aside from continously getting crappy copies of KoF99:DM, they do have some great service, free shipping for returns and occaisional deals on Preowned stuff like Buy-one-get-onme-free and 20% off, etc).

Oh and, about PJ again, does the story fold out in the same way as the first RS, dialog and all? Because I honestly liked that feature, it makes me hope a KoF game could fold out in the same manner.

Cain Highwind

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"Re(3):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 00:36

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If I had a choice between the two, I'd go for Project Justice first, but they're both worth checking out... so is Tech Romancer.

I plan on checking out the game too, mostly in consideration for a friend of mine who loved the first Cyberbots and has a fancy for Mecha in general.

Iggy

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"Re(1):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 01:32:

"Project Justice" is a watered down version of the japanese version, which had a board game, great but which missed the feature to have your ways with Kyôko, Daigo or Hayato at the end of the year (doing a dance around the fire is just not the same). I would have loved to date Momo or Zaki... (sigh)
But if the dating aspect of the game was removed since Seishun nikki 2, the board game allows to create a character with much more freedom than its predecessors. You could really create what you wanted, the parameters where easy to understand, it was really well done, the kind of things that more than tripled the time I would normally have played the fighting game alone (which is good, better than the first one, but still quickly boring). The graphical customization of your character was a bit lacky though.
Oh, and the scenario mode doesn't have voices, when Jusgaku had some. SHAME ON YOU CAPCOM !

Edit : to sum up my opinion, Justice >Tech Romancer (I don't know what they changed in the US version)> Plasma Sword.
Then, Moejus (JP) >>>>>> Project Justice US, and Seishunnikki 2 >>>>>>>>>> everything other Justice game, and Katamari Damacy >>(unsurpassable wall)>> any other game.

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[this message was edited by Iggy on Wed 5 May 01:40]

Ammadeau

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"Re(2):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 04:24

I have both Japanese and US versions of Project Justice and US Plasma Sword. I love them all and have played them a heck of a lot, both alone and with friends. Good stuff.

Updated when I can... which isn't very often. ^_^;;

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"Alternate costumes" , posted Wed 5 May 05:12

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they removed the bonus board game and didn't include some alternate costumes you could download in the JP version.

Actually, they are in there. Hold START when playing as Shoma, Boman, and Hinata.

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"Re(3):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 05:23

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I have both Japanese and US versions of Project Justice and US Plasma Sword. I love them all and have played them a heck of a lot, both alone and with friends. Good stuff.

Im sorry but plasma sword is weak. i can barely play 3 rounds without turning popping the lid of my dreamcast and putting in something fun like Jojo's bizarre adventure.

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Iggy

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"Re(4):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 05:33

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putting in something fun like Jojo's bizarre adventure.

Ah, at last, someone talks about a fun fighting game...

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Dante
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"Re(3):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 05:59

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Thanks a bunch guys for the opinions. I was mostly wondering since I haven't been able to find Project Justice anywhere except Amazon.com (charging between 40-50 dollars for a used copy).

There was a reprint of the game in Japan. Probably easier and cheaper to find, but it obviously won't be in English.

Ishmael

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"Re(3):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 06:02

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Thanks a bunch guys for the opinions. I was mostly wondering since I haven't been able to find Project Justice anywhere except Amazon.com (charging between 40-50 dollars for a used copy). And as for Plasma Sword, they're selling it at Gamestop for 15$ (aside from continously getting crappy copies of KoF99:DM, they do have some great service, free shipping for returns and occaisional deals on Preowned stuff like Buy-one-get-onme-free and 20% off, etc).

Oh and, about PJ again, does the story fold out in the same way as the first RS, dialog and all? Because I honestly liked that feature, it makes me hope a KoF game could fold out in the same manner.

$40-50 for PJ? Considering the game was released new in the US for $19.99 someone is making a nice profit on used copies of that title.

PJ is the only fighting game I can think of where the bad guy's master plan consists of nothing more than a flute and a rubber mask that sort of makes him look like the main character. It may not be the deepest fighting game ever it is great fun. I'm not sure if it's fifty bucks worth of fun, but still fun.

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"Re(2):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 13:44

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. I would have loved to date Momo or Zaki... (sigh)

Wait, wasn't the date held with the character you interacted the most in the draw board??? And I somewhat knew what was going on, I was playing with a fluent japanese speaker next to me....I remember it was really hard to catch in Yurika XD

And for what I have seen tech romancer US port is very faitful to the JP port, it has tons of options, a few galeries that are actually fun to unlock and jp voice settings, no dubbed around.... And the storyline didn't feel like capcom US made up XD.

Storyline wise both games are a bloody blast to play, with events after every fight, several paths to take and involving storyline with lots of things for you to find out, so if you can't read japanese go for the US. Storyline wise Tech Romancer is better, but if you don't like mechas you could enjoy more PJ.

Two fine games in my book.

Plasma Sword is OK but as it has been stated it would lose appealing if out next to other classics; I figure that that might be because Plsama Sword is oriented to a very specific audience design wise, and the storyline is cool but you don't get story secuences until the final battles.

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"Re(3):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 15:16

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Wait, wasn't the date held with the character you interacted the most in the draw board??? And I somewhat knew what was going on, I was playing with a fluent japanese speaker next to me....I remember it was really hard to catch in Yurika XD

Yes, but it was not half fun as Seishun nikki.
I mean, there was no event where you had to choose between helping a drunk Kyôko or leave her collapse in her own vomit.

And no, I didn't made this up.
And you wouldn't guess which was the right answer.

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Spoon

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"Re(2):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 16:09

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Katamari Damacy

I wonder if it's still true that this will come out in NA in Q3 2004...

Is there a multiplayer Vs. mode? XD

Iggy

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"Re(3):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 16:27

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I wonder if it's still true that this will come out in NA in Q3 2004...

Oh, it will be great, they will change all the soundtrack with songs of random boysband and replace the main character with Mary Cate & Ashley.

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Maou
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"Re(4):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 18:28

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I mean, there was no event where you had to choose between helping a drunk Kyôko or leave her collapse in her own vomit.

Yeah, both Seishun Nikki's were great--really did make the Justice characters come alive, and all that. Too bad gym teacher Hayato's training and my choices netted me a guy student character with Tiffany's 'beautiful exciting' kick (!).

Ammadeau

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"Re(5):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 20:15

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Yeah, both Seishun Nikki's were great--really did make the Justice characters come alive, and all that. Too bad gym teacher Hayato's training and my choices netted me a guy student character with Tiffany's 'beautiful exciting' kick (!).

Heh, I once accidently made a male character with Tiff's breast hugging attack. It looked hilarious in action though. :p

My best character was a female student armed with a wooden sword that had most of the weapon-based attacks, including four supers. Could wipe out anyone with her.

I know not many people like Plasma Sword, but it's a fun game for me, unlike Jojo which I found to be incredibly boring.

Updated when I can... which isn't very often. ^_^;;

Amakusa

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"Re(4):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 20:23

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Im sorry but plasma sword is weak. i can barely play 3 rounds without turning popping the lid of my dreamcast and putting in something fun like Jojo's bizarre adventure.

Funny, I say the same for Jojo.

I found Kagami's sword in a junk yard.
I will rule the world

and find that truly good cup of coffee.
"Dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-do."

Spoon

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"Re(4):How is Project Justice + Plasma Sword(U" , posted Wed 5 May 21:03

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I wonder if it's still true that this will come out in NA in Q3 2004...
Oh, it will be great, they will change all the soundtrack with songs of random boysband and replace the main character with Mary Cate & Ashley.

And then get sued by Mary Cate & Ashley.