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| Dr Baghead 2976th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):Is it possible to Anime-fy Spiderman?"
, posted Mon 26 Apr 20:55
I mean, give Spider-man an anime series, with a definite ending, and such?
Of course it is... but the question is should it be possible?!
Like say for example Trigun (Wizard had Vash and Spider-man fight in their pointless "East Vs. West" feature so that will be the contrast)it would be very possible to turn it into a US series along the lines of Batman:TAS or Gargoyles, but people would bitch and moan if it was so why bother?
How many episodes (and series) do you think would the entire series span?
maybe 12 told like the story arc in a comic book, there could be any number of 'series/seasons'
Who would be his final enemy?
Good Ol' Norman if they want to be 'classical', Venom if they want to be modern/cool, and Doc Oc if it's one of those animes
How would the characters' personalities change?
Would they need to? If they did probably be like the Ultimate universe (I doubt anyone in Japan is retarded enough to make anything based in Mangaverse... to compare to Trigun again that would be an "Americaniverse" reimaging Vash as a Baseball Player at war for oil who enjoys eating hotdogs and wishes he was a bird)
Will fanservice be incorporated easily into it?
Well Kevin Smith got a shower scene in Black Cat/Spider-man so it would be THAT hard to incorporate.
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Useless fact: In an entertaining debate about Spiderman vs Gaara, it was mentioned that Spiderman in the comic book was as fast as Rock Lee with weights. Or faster. =/ The truth to this might be different, however.
What's a Gaara?
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| Luisinan 856th Post
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| "Re(1):Is it possible to Anime-fy Spiderman?" , posted Mon 26 Apr 22:50
several random thoughts.
I liked Marvel Mangaverse Spider-man. But that's not real manga-- that's just... American psuedo-manga.
Anyhoo, I think Spider-man is getting overexposed. The problem I have with anime-fying Spiderman is that, in doing so, you kinda lose a lot of what Spider-man is.
You see, Spider-man is the classical, American hero. The American hero 'creates' his mythology and his legend as he adventures and saves the day. Whereas the Japanese manga hero usually has a pre-existing mythology and legend that he usually discovers. Spider-man created quite a few spider-gadgets from scratch. He even created some of the villains he fights. Goku learned martial arts from pre-existing figures. He fights pre-existing villains that are usually tied to his past or heritage.
Its not cut and dry like that, but I think the eastern philosophy is more about discovering your heritage/past, paying homage/respect to it, growing from it and conquering any evils that may have plagued your heritage/past. Whereas western philosophy is kinda more individualistic, you set yourself apart, seperate yourself from family, create a new, unique identity, and set out to make your own mark. I mean, look at Goku's super hero family. Spider-man has allies, but he usually fights alone.
Its not black and white. Its just like that. If Spider-man were to be anime-ified, he would discover that his father was a previous spider-man. The Osborns and Parkers had been fighting for millenia. The spider-man costume and webslinger would be mystical talismans that had been handed down through the generations. And it would be his destiny to stop/seal/befriend the current head of the Osborn clan.
Okay, that kind of story interests me. I like your typical and a-typical anime story. It could be a fun series. But, it wouldn't really be spider-man. Just a real big twist on spider-man. Don't know how acceptable that would be. Interesting idea. Maybe a blending of the two would be good. Eastern asthetics and thick mythology/destiny/legend with western sensibilities on identity, relationships and personal conflicts.
And you heard it here first-- thats the type of genre I'm writing in my novels. East meets West in a nice, good, blend.
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| Dr Baghead 2979th Post
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| "Re(2):Is it possible to Anime-fy Spiderman?" , posted Mon 26 Apr 22:56
quote:
several random thoughts.
I liked Marvel Mangaverse Spider-man. But that's not real manga-- that's just... American psuedo-manga.
Anyhoo, I think Spider-man is getting overexposed. The problem I have with anime-fying Spiderman is that, in doing so, you kinda lose a lot of what Spider-man is.
You see, Spider-man is the classical, American hero. The American hero 'creates' his mythology and his legend as he adventures and saves the day. Whereas the Japanese manga hero usually has a pre-existing mythology and legend that he usually discovers. Spider-man created quite a few spider-gadgets from scratch. He even created some of the villains he fights. Goku learned martial arts from pre-existing figures. He fights pre-existing villains that are usually tied to his past or heritage.
Its not cut and dry like that, but I think the eastern philosophy is more about discovering your heritage/past, paying homage/respect to it, growing from it and conquering any evils that may have plagued your heritage/past. Whereas western philosophy is kinda more individualistic, you set yourself apart, seperate yourself from family, create a new, unique identity, and set out to make your own mark. I mean, look at Goku's super hero family. Spider-man has allies, but he usually fights alone.
Its not black and white. Its just like that. If Spider-man were to be anime-ified, he would discover that his father was a previous spider-man. The Osborns and Parkers had been fighting for millenia. The spider-man costume and webslinger would be mystical talismans that had been handed down through the generations. And it would be his destiny to stop/seal/befriend the current head of the Osborn clan.
[stands up and starts clapping]
Beautiful explaination of the two cultures and the stories created by living them!
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| EternalNewbie
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| "Re(2):Is it possible to Anime-fy Spiderman?" , posted Tue 27 Apr 00:45
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several random thoughts.
I liked Marvel Mangaverse Spider-man. But that's not real manga-- that's just... American psuedo-manga.
Anyhoo, I think Spider-man is getting overexposed. The problem I have with anime-fying Spiderman is that, in doing so, you kinda lose a lot of what Spider-man is.
You see, Spider-man is the classical, American hero. The American hero 'creates' his mythology and his legend as he adventures and saves the day. Whereas the Japanese manga hero usually has a pre-existing mythology and legend that he usually discovers. Spider-man created quite a few spider-gadgets from scratch. He even created some of the villains he fights. Goku learned martial arts from pre-existing figures. He fights pre-existing villains that are usually tied to his past or heritage.
Its not cut and dry like that, but I think the eastern philosophy is more about discovering your heritage/past, paying homage/respect to it, growing from it and conquering any evils that may have plagued your heritage/past. Whereas western philosophy is kinda more individualistic, you set yourself apart, seperate yourself from family, create a new, unique identity, and set out to make your own mark. I mean, look at Goku's super hero family. Spider-man has allies, but he usually fights alone.
Its not black and white. Its just like that. If Spider-man were to be anime-ified, he would discover that his father was a previous spider-man. The Osborns and Parkers had been fighting for millenia. The spider-man costume and webslinger would be mystical talismans that had been handed down through the generations. And it would be his destiny to stop/seal/befriend the current head of the Osborn clan.
Okay, that kind of story interests me. I like your typical and a-typical anime story. It could be a fun series. But, it wouldn't really be spider-man. Just a real big twist on spider-man. Don't know how acceptable that would be. Interesting idea. Maybe a blending of the two would be good. Eastern asthetics and thick mythology/destiny/legend with western sensibilities on identity, relationships and personal conflicts.
And you heard it here first-- thats the type of genre I'm writing in my novels. East meets West in a nice, good, blend.
I think you skillfully hit the problem right on the head. Well done. East Asian culture tends to focus more on a pre-existing destiny, whether family-related or just basic sense of destiny, whereas American culture tends to focus more on created destiny aspect, changing as someone goes along. I mean, the American aspect goes more than beyond Spider-Man, you see it in Super Man to an extent (he chose how to use his power, and even though his past does bring villains, it is his actions that change everything as along, kinda hard to describe but hopefully you get my point), and X-men you have people making choices along the way that then later catch up to them (although there is some destiny aspect, it is not as strong and can be changed alot easier than if it was an East Asian type story). However, you get more into anime, and as you mentioned with the DBZ aspect, more fate and destiny are playing themselves out rather than being changed or created. I mean, even if you take into Naruto for those of you that know it, Naruto may be making changes along the way following his path of the ninja, but there tends to be a destiny kinda tying everyone together (the Nine-Tails, Naruto Vs Sasuke rivalary, etc.) and is being played out. Same with lots of other manga/anime type stuff.
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