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| Time Mage 1844th Post
 
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|  "Re(3):Tenjou Tenge... the animation?!"
, posted Fri 2 Apr 02:08
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Looks awful. Maybe someday SOME company will be able to make an anime adaptation of a manga I like that isn't sinfully ugly.
But for those who don't like manga, don't have a sense of art or don't mind blindingly bad color schemes...it's a gift from heaven!
At last, someone that thinks like me. Most of the anime adaptations of a manga are pretty bad (art wise and action wise). I remember with pain in my eyes the two last I checked: Love Hina (BUARGHHH!!!) and Naruto (RE-BUARGHHH!!). Both display, as Pollyanna says, awful colors, standarized (is that a word?) designs with all the same oval shape for the face, the same eyes, etc... and sloooooooooooow action, to keep with the manga publication.
Of course, some others are good, but they are a minority. I'm thinking right now about Golden Boy, which is pretty accurate to the manga art style, as well as equally funny and a bit more ecci. ^_^
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| Pollyanna
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|  "Re(1):It sucked!!!"
, posted Fri 2 Apr 17:42
Ah, how's the opening? That's the only redeeming quality I can find in a lot of anime from manga adaptations because it's often the only part of the show they put any kind of artistic effort into. Like...I can barely watch the Naruto anime, but the 2nd opening is quite good. Similarly, I can't watch GTO, but the opening is interesting at least.
I could cry...I'm so happy to hear that other people feel the way I do about adaptations from manga. So many anime fans don't seem to see any problems with the horrible color schemes, flat, generic character designs, cheap music, poor direction etc etc that plagues most anime.
I won't cry harder than I did for One Piece, though...they flattened the normally round characters, made them hideously ugly and colored them with the most obnoxious primary and neon colors they could find. Furthermore, that's the only show I've seen that I've actually disliked the voice acting in.
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| beto 299th Post
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| "Re(4):Tenjou Tenge... the animation?!" , posted Sat 3 Apr 09:32:
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I dunno, I liked this a lot better than Airmaster. The funny parts are funnier, the serious parts are cooler. Better character design and plot development too IMO.
There was nothing serious on episode 01. I mean, what? A couple seconds with Bob?
And if your idea of funny is making a scene that takes a couple pages into a long montage where Aya change outfits constantly (LOL! She´s a nurse now! LOL! Now a geisha! OhmyGodsofunnyyyy) and Nagi runs around screaming, or making a scene that takes one panel into a looong shot of Bob exchanging blows in the background and Nagi stand there...
Hell, crap like Mouse and Ikkitousen had more character development and werenpt as silly (!!!) than this in their first episodes.
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I guess what I was referring to was the quality of the drawing as opposed to the animation itself. But I didn't notice any particular choppiness except when it was intentional (for a slapstick reaction or stylized combat).
If you consider Aya´s massive (and orange) head and the designs changing from shot to shot "quality"... Hell, Masa´s face looked like a rough sketch in most of the shots.
And last time i checked, when you´re going for a "stylized" shot, you don´t skip one or two frames only. You make it ALL look consistent, all in the same style. Same for the shots where Nagi is shocked - "ok, so we start animating... a fuck, jump to the last frame". It wasn´t funny or stylish. It was just cheap.
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| Daisetsu
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| "Re(5):Tenjou Tenge... the animation?!" , posted Sun 4 Apr 07:24
I don't see what the big deal is. Comparing character development and overall nuttiness to that of Airmaster and Ikkitousen in the first episode is more than a bit harsh IMO.
First off, the anime stays almost completely true to the manga in terms of plot(first/second chapters). The only major difference I noticed offhand was the addition of that nurse transformation during Souchiro's chase scene(that wasn't funny in the manga either).
The characters are actually drawn pretty well, although I don't like the coloring for Maya much. Masataka's hairstyle got changed a bit, but I guess that typical shonen cut is a bit of a hassle to put out all the time(since it's a bit random). The only gripe I really have is with Bob, who does noticably change in almost every scene where he shows up(wtf, can't decide?) Profile shots are pretty high quality, and background shots are better than most.
You're complaining about animation, but who cares about how well animated dialogue scenes are? There were about 3 brief moments where actual fighting breaks out(not Bob and Souchiro's beating up thugs), and those weren't badly animated at all. The next episode has an actual FIGHT in it, and the few clips of it look pretty well animated.
Moving on to character development... again, where's the fire? The characters behave EXACTLY like they do in the manga. Maya with her 'fufufu'-like attitude, Aya with her ditz-like chasing after Souchiro, Masataka with his schoolboy crush on Aya, Souchiro with his "I'm a punk!" gimmick, etc. But none of them are stuck into lame supporting roles(except maybe Bob), and they aren't empty. By comparison, the majority of Airmaster's focal characters were shallow/pathetic from day one for that reason(the only real reason to watch that anime is the fighting anyway).
The only thing Airmaster beat Tenjou Tenge in by the first episode was animation, and that's because the manga didn't have a direct fight from the get-go. Whoopie.
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| beto 312th Post
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| "Re(6):Re(10):Tenjou Tenge... the animation?!" , posted Wed 7 Apr 19:47
The two things i can´t stand in animation are irregular animation and when they can´t follow the damn model sheets.
I already accepted this thing was going to look bad. Poor character designs and the painful, painful colors.
But when i got into the episode, all i saw was shortcut after shortcut after shortcut. It´s like an episode where they run out of budget... Except this is episode 01 (which usually look the best).
Every time Masakata´s face changed, i cringed. Long shots had no facial features to speak of. Frames were skipped in every scene, even people walking or talking.
There was no detail in anything. It looked like a hentai from a small company. It didn´t have "heart" anywhere.
They followed the manga scene-by-scene but they forgot this is the animated version. They put comedy sound effects in there. Sound effects that even half-decent comedy shows chose to skip when changing from media (manga is not anime, you know).
They made the comedy bits drag on and on (the "i don´t know" scene, the chase scene, Masakata in the shower, all Masakata and Nagi facial expressions). They added the already massive T&A (Aya/Maya fight). They added jokes in scenes that already had jokes (nurse outfit!!!! climbing the building!!!).
They made the show more stupid than Ikkitousen of all things!
Instead of doing like the manga and going back and forth, winking but still hanging the balance, they just went ALL into the comedy, head-in. The manga was funny but never forgot it was a fighting manga with comedy. The tone was right.
Ikkitousen, the cheap TenTen rip-off, has a better first episode than TenTen itself! How sad is that?!?
Not only that, but you can almost randomly pick a show, any genre, and it´ll have more consistent animation and design than this first episode had.
Midori no Hibi had a better fight scene than TT. MnH didn´t have disappearing features, didn´t have faces changing from scene to scene! Hell, the animation as a whole looked better than this Madhouse action anime!!!
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| Pollyanna 255th Post
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|  "Re(4):It sucked!!!"
, posted Thu 8 Apr 16:17
I don't think that someone who can enjoy "bad" animation has low standards, they just have a different set of values. I have the curse (or blessing) of being into both art and direction. When something is lacking in originality in both categories, then I can't tolerate it. To me, there is absolutely no advantage to watching an anime over reading the manga if the anime isn't on par with the manga in some level of artistry.
Being able to say "this artist draws hands badly" or being able to pick out different assistants drawing backgrounds/characters/etc may have its advantages when reading manga, but these same values only ruin enjoyment when it comes to anime.
In my opinion, 90% of anime is bad, 5% is watchable, and 5%, if even that much, is actually worth your time.
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