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| DKW 253th Post
 
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|  "Is FotNS *cursed* or something?"
, posted Thu 1 Apr 00:09
Okay, I just finished reading the thread on the cancellation of the Raijin comics magazine, and I was stunned to learn that they may be pulling the plug on Fist of the North Star. I'm aware that it's a messy situation right now and not a lot's been determined it, but the mere possibility shook me.
I first learned of this moving, stunningly beautiful manga when Viz started doing translations. I'd never seen anything so pure...the deep, powerful characters, the complex storylines, the memorable battles, and of course plenty of unapologetic, uncensored violence. Best of all, Viz didn't even feel the need to give any warnings; just one look at Kenshiro and you knew that he was going to make people bleed.
I waited lord knows how long for the fifth installment...which never came. I wrote them at least three times asking what the hell happened without getting a response. The Jagi arc had just ended; they weren't even a fifth of the way through at that point. (Later, someone somewhere suggested that "it didn't sell".)
You can imagine how overjoyed I was when Raijin Comics picked it up. Their methodology was a little different from Viz's (e.g. they apparently subscribed to the notion that the original Japanese terms for the attacks were extremely important), but I barely even noticed; one of the all-time greats was coming home again.
And now it seems that not only has the run stopped at volume 9, but Raijin Comics may soon cease all operations. (And believe me, I'd gladly welcome any reports to the contrary.)
*Sigh*...it shoulda been Tokyopop, dammit. Whatever criticims you may have of them, at least they understand the concept of finishing what you start. Whether it's a frivolous 4-volume fantasy romp like Wish or a multilayered shojo epic like Card Captor Sakura, if you see the first, you'll see the last.
I don't care about glorious full color. I don't care about parental concerns. I don't care about cultural differences, the current political climate, the state of the manga industry, or what the flippin' katakana for North Star Dragon Attacks Tiger is. I just want this groundbreaking series translated and distributed in its entirety. Why is it that nobody can get any appreciable run out of one of the greatest manga series of all time?
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| "Re(1):Is FotNS *cursed* or something?" , posted Thu 1 Apr 00:43
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Okay, I just finished reading the thread on the cancellation of the Raijin comics magazine, and I was stunned to learn that they may be pulling the plug on Fist of the North Star. I'm aware that it's a messy situation right now and not a lot's been determined it, but the mere possibility shook me.
I first learned of this moving, stunningly beautiful manga when Viz started doing translations. I'd never seen anything so pure...the deep, powerful characters, the complex storylines, the memorable battles, and of course plenty of unapologetic, uncensored violence. Best of all, Viz didn't even feel the need to give any warnings; just one look at Kenshiro and you knew that he was going to make people bleed.
I waited lord knows how long for the fifth installment...which never came. I wrote them at least three times asking what the hell happened without getting a response. The Jagi arc had just ended; they weren't even a fifth of the way through at that point. (Later, someone somewhere suggested that "it didn't sell".)
You can imagine how overjoyed I was when Raijin Comics picked it up. Their methodology was a little different from Viz's (e.g. they apparently subscribed to the notion that the original Japanese terms for the attacks were extremely important), but I barely even noticed; one of the all-time greats was coming home again.
And now it seems that not only has the run stopped at volume 9, but Raijin Comics may soon cease all operations. (And believe me, I'd gladly welcome any reports to the contrary.)
*Sigh*...it shoulda been Tokyopop, dammit. Whatever criticims you may have of them, at least they understand the concept of finishing what you start. Whether it's a frivolous 4-volume fantasy romp like Wish or a multilayered shojo epic like Card Captor Sakura, if you see the first, you'll see the last.
I don't care about glorious full color. I don't care about parental concerns. I don't care about cultural differences, the current political climate, the state of the manga industry, or what the flippin' katakana for North Star Dragon Attacks Tiger is. I just want this groundbreaking series translated and distributed in its entirety. Why is it that nobody can get any appreciable run out of one of the greatest manga series of all time?
Indeed... this is sad... I just got back into my FotNS just recently, buying 4 volumes in one go and loving each and every one, even knowing that it might finish altogether... not fair.
I hope Raijin can keep both Kenshiro mangas as well, he like a star of this universe and I'm sure we've all seen some of him when we was younger...
Such a shame... I will pick up the rest of the volumes released anyway but to see this get dropped breaks my heart. Just like Patlabor :(
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| Sano 516th Post
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| "Re(1):Is FotNS *cursed* or something?" , posted Thu 1 Apr 09:29
DKW - I agree. We didn't even get all the Anime Episodes translated, and the ones we got include Manga Video's Dumb Ass Techno Intro. If Manga Video wants to do Dumb Ass Intros like they did for SF2V, they should at least include the Original Japanese Intros and Outros as Bonuses on the DVD.
And the Movie! The Dub REALLY SUCKS! We still don't have a Sub nor do we have the official Director's Cut that reveals that Kenshiro and Raoh got up to hit each other at the same time before Lynn stopped the fight making the battle a tie so people in the US still think Raoh kicked Kenshiro's Ass.
I've got Fan Subs of the entire Fist series, but the Manga goes past the series so it's important for us to get the Manga in the US too.
At least, the new Fist OVAs should be coming out in the US in 2004. The Fan Subs for it are HORRIBLE. At the Big Apple Anime Convention, the director brung a copy straight from his studio Subbed by them and the Subtitles made a whole lot of sense, so any confusion I had with the Fan Sub like when the story takes place and stuff was instantly cleared up with the Sub he brought. The quality of Fan Subs in General has gone way down over the years.
So, yeah, I feel your pain. I hope the new OVAs sell well in the States, and maybe then more people will get into the Manga and Animes and stuff, and we'll finally get the full Fist of the North Star. Well, I can dream...
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| "Re(2):Is FotNS *cursed* or something?" , posted Thu 1 Apr 09:49
The quality of fansubs has dropped over the years because it's gone from people who really wanted to do it, and had to pay quite a bit for the necessary machinery to do it, to "Hey, this whole anime thing is kinda cool, my parents just bought a new computer and my friend knows a little Japanese! We can call ourselves AnimeJunkies!".
The obvious upside of all of this is that it's all much faster; in some instances, we're seeing fansubbed episodes the week, or the week after, they've aired in Japan. The obvious downside is the codec/bt client/player bullshit we constantly have to trudge through because every group needs to be different and use shitty Russian codecs....oh, and poor translations/subbing.
And I too long for a single, complete, english release of FotNS in manga form. ;-;
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