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Radish

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"Read or Die TV End (Avast! Thar be spoilers!)" , posted Sun 21 Mar 10:24:

Got around to watching the ending which has been out for a day or two. I enjoyed the series, but hate to say I'm a little dissapointed with the ending. There are lots of spoilers here so please don't continue if you haven't seen it yet. I don't want to have to put everything in tags.

It seemed really rushed with all the action taking place in the last 5 minutes and then a super quick "where are they now" showcase. Questions were still left unanswered like what happened to Tony, is Anita the next Gentleman, what the hell was up with the magic time machine thing (which was SORTA explained but still seemed silly), what did Joker see when Junior touched him.

Also Wendy's personality kept changing which seemed weird (which was in addition to the amount from the OAV). The part where special needs Joker sees the dog and then Wendy takes off her apron was seriously a "WTF?" moment.

In my opinion the series could have taken out a few of the Anita at school episodes and some of the episodes where they sit around and talk about stuff that ends up being totally unimportant and spend a little more on some backstory (a lot of which we were hit in the face with and later wasn't mentioned) it would have been better. I would have liked to have known exactly what Joker was doing a little earlier too. Most of the main characters were like "Well it's Joker so we'd better stop his plan since it must be evil even though we have no clue as to what he's doing."

Overall I definetely liked the series. I just was a little underwhelmed by the end which seemed very abridged.

Anyone else have any opinions?

[this message was edited by Radish on Sun 21 Mar 10:27]

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"Re(1):Read or Die TV End (Avast! Thar be spoi" , posted Sun 21 Mar 13:21

The story build up in ROD TV has been the best in a long time. The ending in some way, was an let down when compared to the rest of the series. When Anita, Michelle, and Maggie infiltrated the Douksensha, it had me on the edge of my seat for two and a half weeks just waiting for the sub.

However, the ending is much like radish says, quite anti-clamatic. The action really does take place in 5 minutes and gives little to no pay off to all the build up. It was also awkward to have the main character review their history for about 15 mins of film time for them to infiltrate a building they saw the episode before. I do like the "where are they all now" segment even though this one was rather long and could have been used for a bit more action. Many anime tend to be like Hong Kong movies ending right after the climax or without a fufilling resolution.

Personally, I'm a bit curious to whether Gentleman would have even condoned world domination, or was it all Joker just going insane. Even though it has been a while since the OVA, the personality changes in Joker and Wendy could have been explained instead of just mentioned. Wendy does sound like OVA Wendy in the conclusion. The only thing that still bothers me is whether Neya Michiko is the seiyuu for Nancy because I can't tell.

Quite enjoyable, but the exceution of the end is not satisfactory for a series that had excelled in story construction for twenty four earlier episodes.

Freeter

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"Re(1):Read or Die TV End (Avast! Thar be spoi" , posted Sun 21 Mar 13:55

Ending was crap. Art was horrendous, fight scenes were far too brief (the ROD music lasted all of five seconds then bam, done), and all logic went out the door.

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
-Wendy goes from uptight serious woman to bumbling bimbo overnight.

-Nenene pulling the papers out from under her shirt despite not having any tape or anything to hold them down.

-Anita and co. magically changing into their fighting outfits.

-No explanation of the connection between Drake and Maggie (unless the manga touched on this, which I doubt).

End of Spoiler

All that buildup for nothing. They should've ended it at ep 13.

JJWE

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"Re(2):Read or Die TV End (Avast! Thar be spoi" , posted Sun 21 Mar 14:56

Anita, Maggie and Michelle's outfits are made out of paper, so...

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Radish

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"Re(2):Read or Die TV End (Avast! Thar be spoi" , posted Sun 21 Mar 15:06:

quote:
-Anita and co. magically changing into their fighting outfits.

-No explanation of the connection between Drake and Maggie (unless the manga touched on this, which I doubt).

End of Spoiler

Well just to touch on these. The paper sisters make their fight clothes out of paper so I guess they just did that really fast. It was kind of odd that they'd waste paper on that though I agree. There is no connection between Maggie and Drake. Drake's daughter is also named Maggie. His reaction when he hears her name in the van is very odd though. Most people don't go "BOBBY!!" when they learn that yes someone else has the same name as their kid.

I liked the epilogue; I just wish it was longer instead of Joker is a vegtable, Anita like reading, Yomiko is somewhere doing something, bye!!

edit BEATEN! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[this message was edited by Radish on Sun 21 Mar 15:10]

JJWE

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"More "quality" animation" , posted Mon 22 Mar 09:42

My favorite has to be either when they turn the key for the final phase of the process, or when the "key" is destroyed in the end. Take your pick.

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Gestahr
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"Spoilers in tow" , posted Tue 23 Mar 13:49

I was hoping the series, on the whole, would be better than it ended up being. At times it seemed like the writers would write themselves into a hole and use the cheapest method possible to escape from it. How many times could Yomiko, or any of the Paper sisters, have killed Joker and stopped the entire plan dead in it's tracks? Like at the end, when Yomiko heroically went off to stop Joker on her own, politely asked him to stop, and gave up as soon as he said no.

I think I agree with the idea that the story should have ended at 13 episodes.

Radish

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"Re(1):Spoilers in tow" , posted Tue 23 Mar 18:45:

quote:
I was hoping the series, on the whole, would be better than it ended up being. At times it seemed like the writers would write themselves into a hole and use the cheapest method possible to escape from it. How many times could Yomiko, or any of the Paper sisters, have killed Joker and stopped the entire plan dead in it's tracks? Like at the end, when Yomiko heroically went off to stop Joker on her own, politely asked him to stop, and gave up as soon as he said no.

I think I agree with the idea that the story should have ended at 13 episodes.

Haha that was pretty funny. "I'm going to stop Joker as long as he is totally ok with that idea." Another thing was that Joker asked "a favor" of Nenene before he started the Library up but this was never mentioned again. If she rejected it, would it be too much to ask for the show to tell us?

I liked the whole idea of the British Library rebuilding itself, but it was much more fun in the OAV when it was like MI5 only with lots of books, crazy pseudo science and resurected historical figures than another generic "We must redo the world for its own good!" illuminati organization.

EDIT: Seeing the US Navy getting mashed by crazy weird crap in both the OAV and tv show was slightly disheartening.

[this message was edited by Radish on Tue 23 Mar 18:53]