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Burning Ranger

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"Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussion" , posted Sat 13 Mar 09:04

Is anyone playing this besides me? I finished the normal mode yesterday, and I have to say that I am impressed with the game. Silicon Knights did a good job with the port, and I love the extras that not only the extra features, but the new cut scenes that add a dramatic (and sometimes funny) ambience. I just love the encounters with Baker, and the part where Ocelot talks to Snake (and to you, the player) before the interrogation sequence. Then there's the too-cool battle with Psycho Mantis (which I won't spoil).

So anyone have any comments? I like this game a little more than the PS original (I never played the PS version, but I played the PC port of it).

Speak up, soldier!

Advanced Cyborg E. Branger AKA Burning Ranger

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threesixtee

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"Re(1):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sat 13 Mar 11:33

I only played up until after the fight with ocelot. CUT SCENES ROCK. man, cyberninja v. snake was better than any fight I've seen in recent tv, film, anime, etc. I can't wait to play further.

having played the original, one of my main complaints now are the voices - while the major players are the same (the snakes, ocelot, colonel, etc), I miss the lesser supporting roles. mei-ling sounded a LOT cuter in the original, I miss her slight chinese accent. same with naomi, didn't she sound british before? I checked, IMDB, the voices are credited as the same actors, but they definitely sound different. cyberninja is played wayy different now as well. did anyone catch steve "spike spiegel" blum as one of the guards in the beginning?

note: meryl stretching in her underwear = top tier fanservice

GekigangerV

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"Re(2):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sat 13 Mar 14:22

quote:
I only played up until after the fight with ocelot. CUT SCENES ROCK. man, cyberninja v. snake was better than any fight I've seen in recent tv, film, anime, etc. I can't wait to play further.

having played the original, one of my main complaints now are the voices - while the major players are the same (the snakes, ocelot, colonel, etc), I miss the lesser supporting roles. mei-ling sounded a LOT cuter in the original, I miss her slight chinese accent. same with naomi, didn't she sound british before? I checked, IMDB, the voices are credited as the same actors, but they definitely sound different. cyberninja is played wayy different now as well. did anyone catch steve "spike spiegel" blum as one of the guards in the beginning?

note: meryl stretching in her underwear = top tier fanservice

The cutscenes are GREAT! I love the bullet slice(those who saw it know what I mean).

As for the new voice actors the only one I mind is the ninja. He doesn't sound as cool as the orignal during the "hurt me more" lines. Is it me or is Mei-Ling Jubilee from the 90's X-Men series?

About the Psycho Mantis fight...

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what games does he read? I got Sunshine and Melee. Anything else?

End of Spoiler

Time Mage

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"Re(1):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sat 13 Mar 15:04

How about the graphics? Don't you find them a little "average" for a GC? I mean, the MGS3 looks better, at least comparing the images and videos I've seem of both.

I'm probably going to pick this one, but I'll let you convince me a little more, if you want ;)

Burning Ranger

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"Re(3):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sat 13 Mar 18:13

quote:

About the Psycho Mantis fight...

Heres the games he read off my memory card:

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Eternal Darkness
The Legend of Zelda (Wind waker, Ocarina of Time, or original Zelda games, I'm not sure which)
Smash Brothers Melee

End of Spoiler

To comment on graphics... well, the original MGS wasn't too involved in the graphics department, so I guess Silicon Knights realized that they didn't need to go overkill with making the game look like MGS3, but rather more like MGS2 in detail.

The only thing that bugged me in the game was the music. Almost all of it has been re-done. I miss the old battle/encounter theme. But I'm not saying I don't like the music. It's kinda catchy, especially some of the boss themes.

And you all just have to see the battle with Rex... it feels so... dramatic when you play through it.

Advanced Cyborg E. Branger AKA Burning Ranger

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Gojira

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"Re(4):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sat 13 Mar 21:45

Any new extras? I have the original PS1 version but extra cutscenes and slightly better graphics alone aren't enough to make me want Twin Snakes (I already made that mistake with Resident Evil). If there's a REALLY cool extra though, I might consider it.

ROSHIIIIIII!!!

DarkZero

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"Re(2):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sat 13 Mar 23:41

quote:

having played the original, one of my main complaints now are the voices - while the major players are the same (the snakes, ocelot, colonel, etc), I miss the lesser supporting roles. mei-ling sounded a LOT cuter in the original, I miss her slight chinese accent. same with naomi, didn't she sound british before? I checked, IMDB, the voices are credited as the same actors, but they definitely sound different. cyberninja is played wayy different now as well. did anyone catch steve "spike spiegel" blum as one of the guards in the beginning?

I don't know if it came from Konami, Silicon Knights, or whoever else, but one of the mandates for this game was that they get rid of the multiple roles for certain actors. Therefore, because the guy who played the Cyborg Ninja also played another character, they had to get a new actor to play the Cyborg Ninja. It was intended to make the game seem less cheap, but instead it's caused minor complaints in previews, reviews, and message board posts ever since the first trailer was released.

CrazyMike

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"Re(3):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sun 14 Mar 00:50

Well concerning the graphics, from my impressions in screenshots, it appears like the environments were re-used with new textures added in. That is why it seems a little blocky with the exception of a few props and character models. But maybe thats just me.

Burning Ranger

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"Re(5):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sun 14 Mar 01:07

quote:
Any new extras? I have the original PS1 version but extra cutscenes and slightly better graphics alone aren't enough to make me want Twin Snakes (I already made that mistake with Resident Evil). If there's a REALLY cool extra though, I might consider it.

Well, there is a Boss Survival Mode (like in MGS2), Dogtag collecting, and a badass Briefing mode where you actually see Campbell brief Snake before the mission.

As for the Ninja's voice... I think it's so much better. I didn't like his 'shreiky' voice from the original game, and in Twin Snakes, he sounds cooler.

Advanced Cyborg E. Branger AKA Burning Ranger

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NARUTO

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"Re(6):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sun 14 Mar 04:38

Well I should wait till the end of this month for the european release.

Can you tell me if there is the same stuff to unlock than in the PS1 version?

Slayerz
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"Re(1):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sun 14 Mar 17:53

Overall I enjoyed MGS:TW, but most of the action scenes are ridiculous and way too overdramatic. I hate the Matrix style cutscenes. Many of the new cutscene looks very lame like when snake throws a grenade at the metal flying at him, then he jumps off that missle and fires a stinger back at liquid while still in the air.....Grey Fox backflip/kicking a huge chunk of rock at Snake..... Snake jumping 10 feet in the air.... Those scenes does not impress me but me thinking WTF?!

The biggest flaw in this game for me is the soundtrack...it just doesn't have the same feeling as the first one. I was very dissappointed that they changed the Boss Music. I loved the atmosphere in the original game's music, and the boss music was great. TS's music is too techno-ish and it doesn't really fit in this game IMO.

It is an awesome game, but it doesn't live up to the originals. A simple port with updated graphics(think REmake) would've been so much better.

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Burning Ranger

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"Re(2):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sun 14 Mar 18:38

quote:
The biggest flaw in this game for me is the soundtrack...it just doesn't have the same feeling as the first one. I was very dissappointed that they changed the Boss Music. I loved the atmosphere in the original game's music, and the boss music was great. TS's music is too techno-ish and it doesn't really fit in this game IMO.

I happen to like the Boss music. I think each boss has their own theme (I like Sniper Wolf's theme... even though it has a techno beat, it still sounds dramatic). But I do miss the original battle theme, but one of the battle/encounter themes (there is more than one) has motifs from the Metal Gear Solid theme we all know and love from MGS2.

I just finished the game with the Otacon ending and got some more stuff unlocked. But a question lingers:

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
In the PS MGS, how did you get the tuxedo?

End of Spoiler

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Radish

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"Re(6):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sun 14 Mar 18:44

quote:
Well, there is a Boss Survival Mode (like in MGS2), Dogtag collecting, and a badass Briefing mode where you actually see Campbell brief Snake before the mission.

There was a debriefing in the PSX version where you get to see Snake with his wild flowing mane before it is cut off. I think you just had to let the game sit at the title screen or something, I don't really remember.

Not sure if this is the exact same one as in the Gamecuber version since I haven't played it yet.

Rid Hershel

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"Re(7):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sun 14 Mar 19:07

About Burning Ranger's question, finish the game with both endings and the third time you'll have it.

GekigangerV

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"Re(7):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Sun 14 Mar 19:10

AS for your spoiler Burning Ranger.

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It appears after you complete the game two times. So that would make it every third time you go through.

End of Spoiler

As for the briefings. In the PSX version it is one of the menu options. In the PSX version it is 2D, while in TS it is completely 3D. There are some pretty funny things the characters are doing when they dont talk. For example,

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I think it is during the talk of Big Boss' remains. Cambell walks to the corner and zips up his pants.

End of Spoiler

Juan

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"DOG TAGS" , posted Sun 14 Mar 19:31

Allright, i know they dont do anything, but im getting them anyway.

I got all the regular soldier's tags in normal mode, then from the bosses I have Vulcan Raven, Sniper Wolf, Psycho Mantis, and Liquid Snake.

Which are the ones that im missing and how do i get them? I was thinking Revolver Ocelot and Decoy Octopus, but you never really get to knock them out in the game.

STFU

Mozex

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"Re(1):DOG TAGS" , posted Sun 14 Mar 20:01

quote:
Which are the ones that im missing and how do i get them? I was thinking Revolver Ocelot and Decoy Octopus, but you never really get to knock them out in the game.

Not sure about twin snakes, but in MGS2:Substance you could see exactly which dogtags you were missing(and what areas they are in) by going to the tag viewer.

Be kind to goblins.

Burning Ranger

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"Re(1):DOG TAGS" , posted Sun 14 Mar 20:04

quote:
Allright, i know they dont do anything, but im getting them anyway.

I got all the regular soldier's tags in normal mode, then from the bosses I have Vulcan Raven, Sniper Wolf, Psycho Mantis, and Liquid Snake.

Which are the ones that im missing and how do i get them? I was thinking Revolver Ocelot and Decoy Octopus, but you never really get to knock them out in the game.

I don't know about Ocelot or Octopus, but I did figure out how to get the tags off of the soldiers. The trick is that you have to hold up soldiers, then disarm the gun (SOCOM or M9), but rearm the gun but don't aim. Then go in front of the held up soldier, go into first person mode, and aim the gun at the soldier's face. He'll say something like "don't shoot me", then he'll do some wiggle dance and cough up the dogtag.

Also, something cool about the Otacon ending:

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I love the "Hal and Dave" joke. I never really caught the significance of this joke when I played the original MGS port for the PC (I should, since I love the movie the joke references), but in Twin Snakes, they mention it and it becomes really obvious.

End of Spoiler

Advanced Cyborg E. Branger AKA Burning Ranger

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Juan

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"Re(2):DOG TAGS" , posted Sun 14 Mar 20:10

I know how to get the dog tags, but I only have 92% of them.
Since im pretty sure i got all the genome soldier tags i am assuming the two left are of those two boss characters.

quote:
I don't know about Ocelot or Octopus, but I did figure out how to get the tags off of the soldiers. The trick is that you have to hold up soldiers, then disarm the gun (SOCOM or M9), but rearm the gun but don't aim. Then go in front of the held up soldier, go into first person mode, and aim the gun at the soldier's face. He'll say something like "don't shoot me", then he'll do some wiggle dance and cough up the dogtag.

STFU

Gojira

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"Re(3):DOG TAGS" , posted Sun 14 Mar 21:18

quote:
I know how to get the dog tags, but I only have 92% of them.
Since im pretty sure i got all the genome soldier tags i am assuming the two left are of those two boss characters.

This is just a shot in the dark, since I haven't played it, but

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Did you try Meryl? In the original at least you could knock her out before the fight with Physcho Mantis, but this didn't have any significance in that version. But that's how you got Snake's dog tag in MGS2, so...

End of Spoiler

ROSHIIIIIII!!!

Juan

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"Re(4):DOG TAGS" , posted Sun 14 Mar 21:34

quote:
Not sure about twin snakes, but in MGS2:Substance you could see exactly which dogtags you were missing(and what areas they are in) by going to the tag viewer.

Ok cool, i dont think they tell you this info but i will double check.

quote:
This is just a shot in the dark, since I haven't played it, but

Thats a good possibility, i will try it on the second run.

Konami's records dont track dog tags >:o

STFU

DarkZero

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"Re(5):DOG TAGS" , posted Mon 15 Mar 00:14

Gojira's spoiler is correct. GamePro actually devotes a little blurb to telling where and when to get that dog tag just to make sure you don't skip over it. And I'm pretty sure that it happens exactly when Gojira suggested, as well.

Other than that, there's only one thing that I can think of:

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I haven't played the game, but does the DARPA Chief's corpse stick around after he has a heart attack? That guy is really Decoy Octopus, so you might be able to get his dog tag that way.

End of Spoiler

Burning Ranger

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"Re(6):DOG TAGS" , posted Mon 15 Mar 05:07

quote:

Other than that, there's only one thing that I can think of:

Actually, I tried lifting up Octopus's body afterward, but it wouldn't let me. *shrug*

Advanced Cyborg E. Branger AKA Burning Ranger

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DarkZero

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"Re(7):DOG TAGS" , posted Mon 15 Mar 08:36

quote:
got all the regular soldier's tags in normal mode, then from the bosses I have Vulcan Raven, Sniper Wolf, Psycho Mantis, and Liquid Snake.

According to one FAQ, you're only missing two. There are six special dog tags, four of which are bosses.

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One is Meryl and the other is Johnny Sasaki (the diarrhea soldier), who is also, technically, Meryl. You have to knock Meryl out and shake her once when she's in disguise ('cause it's Johnny's uniform!) and then again when she's in her normal clothes.

End of Spoiler

Also, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that dog tag 018, the first soldier in Warehouse North, is Chris Kohler of Insert Credit.

Shin_ATproof

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"Re(8):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Mon 15 Mar 12:42

Good lord this game is awesome.

The change in gameplay makes it feel....complete. It took me a while to get used to not only playing a Metal Gear game again (haven't touched a Metal Gear since Substance several months ago) and the GC controls. I like the change in movie direction. Very well done and just makes everything a lot more fun...I like how they add comedy to so scenes. Like in the briefing room Snake does a silly pose going "sounds like a spy movie"...who thought Snake could be funny?

Gotta go play some more...

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Juan

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"Re(8):DOG TAGS" , posted Mon 15 Mar 13:05

Ok cool found the faq you talk about. The key are the tranq darts.

Didnt see Kohler because they put him on easy mode, otherwise he would have been on my collection of PWNED genome soldiers.

quote:
got all the regular soldier's tags in normal mode, then from the bosses I have Vulcan Raven, Sniper Wolf, Psycho Mantis, and Liquid Snake.

According to one FAQ, you're only missing two. There are six special dog tags, four of which are bosses.

Also, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that dog tag 018, the first soldier in Warehouse North, is Chris Kohler of Insert Credit.

STFU

exodus

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"T3H KOHLER" , posted Mon 15 Mar 16:13

can anybody get a screencap of kohler in the game? I don't own it.

NARUTO

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"Re(1):T3H KOHLER" , posted Tue 16 Mar 02:29

The question that I wish to know the answer the most, Can we play as the NINJA????

sabo10

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"Re(2):T3H KOHLER" , posted Tue 16 Mar 02:39

NIN NIN

Welcone
Needless to say
Please give me the Jesus advent

Slayerz
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"Re(2):T3H KOHLER" , posted Tue 16 Mar 21:13

quote:
The question that I wish to know the answer the most, Can we play as the NINJA????

I don't think you can since getting 100% dogtags didn't unlock anything. I guess theres probably no more unlockables. :(

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exodus

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"Re(3):T3H KOHLER" , posted Wed 17 Mar 02:19

quote:
NIN NIN

homeboy's just a voyeur.

Spoon
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"Re(8):DOG TAGS" , posted Wed 17 Mar 10:40

quote:
Also, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that dog tag 018, the first soldier in Warehouse North, is Chris Kohler of Insert Credit.

Looks like they "got" Kohler.

Grave

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"Re(9):DOG TAGS" , posted Wed 17 Mar 16:05

I saw the Kohler tag, only name I recognized, other than mine. 21st tag in Extreme mode.

Slayerz
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"Re(10):DOG TAGS" , posted Wed 17 Mar 16:48

quote:
I saw the Kohler tag, only name I recognized, other than mine. 21st tag in Extreme mode.

What did you do to get your name in the game? also whats your name?

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DarkZero

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"Re(2):Re(10):DOG TAGS" , posted Wed 17 Mar 18:46

Someone has finally posted a Dog Tag FAQ on GameFAQs. I just thought you might be interested to know that, Mike L. No, wait, that's too obvious... M. Lisman!

And before anyone makes the same mistake that I did, note that the "Tricky Tags" section currently has the tags numbers mixed up. Grave is not the soldier who sways her hips... but damn, would it be funny if he was.

Grave

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"Re(2):Re(10):DOG TAGS" , posted Wed 17 Mar 20:11

quote:
What did you do to get your name in the game?

Konami's been running dog tag contests since MGS2. And I guess I got really, really lucky.

ONSLAUGHT

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"No" , posted Wed 24 Mar 20:06

quote:

Speak up, soldier!

I bought a Gamecube just for this game, and it's not what I was expecting...

I'm having a lot more fun with Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, a superior game.

Grave

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"Re(1):No" , posted Wed 24 Mar 20:18

quote:
I bought a Gamecube just for this game, and it's not what I was expecting...

You got me. I'm curious. What exactly were you expecting?

ONSLAUGHT

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"Well..." , posted Wed 24 Mar 20:51

quote:

You got me. I'm curious. What exactly were you expecting?

Well, I have mixed feelings about this, but I'll try to explain.

I was expecting something along the lines of the Resident Evil Remake (same story as the PSX one, updated graphics, better music, extra stages, etc.).

Same story? check

Updated graphics? Don't count on it... This game looks horrible, just look at Silent Hill 3 and then at Twin Snakes, and tell me wich one has better animation and better models.

Better music? Not quite. While the new music on the Twin Snakes is not bad (even though most of the boss themes are quite bland), the music from MGS on PSX is better.

Extra stages? Can't say if including lockers count as estra stages...

The new stuff (the new cinematics) is way over the top, but don't get me wrong, they look pretty cool, it's just that after the cinematics end, you get a solid snake that can only punch>punch>kick, wich breaks the transition of the game.
I always loved the fact that Snake was a mere human fighting against super humans (the Ninja, Vulcan Raven, Psycho Mantis, Vamp) and incredible machines (the Metal Gears), but now, he's some kind of Neo that can dodge bullets and can jump the highest building with a single leap...
I want to remark that they look extremely cool, but they're out of place in a game like Metal Gear.

The gamplay is a bit better than the original, but the horrid GC controller ruins it (at least at first, I got used to it pretty fast), and the framerate drops horribly when there's action on the screen.

Also, I don't like the Nintendo plugs on this game.

I really wanted to love this game, but I just can't, I think I wasted 60 dollars.

At least I can have fun with PoP.

Gojira

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"Re(1):Well..." , posted Thu 25 Mar 01:16

Now that I've rented and played it, I have to agree with Onslaught (mostly). Not what I was hoping for. New cinematics amount to jack squat in a game that already had good cinematics to begin with. And the new look for the briefings made me wish they hadn't bothered... the briefings in the original with Shinkawa's artwork were dark and moody and cool. Here they're just plain lacking.

ROSHIIIIIII!!!

Time Mage

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"Re(1):Well..." , posted Thu 25 Mar 05:00

quote:

Well, I have mixed feelings about this, but I'll try to explain.

I was expecting something along the lines of the Resident Evil Remake (same story as the PSX one, updated graphics, better music, extra stages, etc.).

Same story? check

Updated graphics? Don't count on it... This game looks horrible, just look at Silent Hill 3 and then at Twin Snakes, and tell me wich one has better animation and better models.

Better music? Not quite. While the new music on the Twin Snakes is not bad (even though most of the boss themes are quite bland), the music from MGS on PSX is better.

Extra stages? Can't say if including lockers count as estra stages...

The new stuff (the new cinematics) is way over the top, but don't get me wrong, they look pretty cool, it's just that after the cinematics end, you get a solid snake that can only punch>punch>kick, wich breaks the transition of the game.
I always loved the fact that Snake was a mere human fighting against super humans (the Ninja, Vulcan Raven, Psycho Mantis, Vamp) and incredible machines (the Metal Gears), but now, he's some kind of Neo that can dodge bullets and can jump the highest building with a single leap...
I want to remark that they look extremely cool, but they're out of place in a game like Metal Gear.

The gamplay is a bit better than the original, but the horrid GC controller ruins it (at least at first, I got used to it pretty fast), and the framerate drops horribly when there's action on the screen.

Also, I don't like the Nintendo plugs on this game.

I really wanted to love this game, but I just can't, I think I wasted 60 dollars.

At least I can have fun with PoP.

Hmmm... This is exactly what I was suspecting... So maybe I'll skip this one.

If I've played and enjoyed the original MGS, TWICE (both endings), is this remake worth the 60€ (around 75$)?

Izek
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"Re(3):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Thu 25 Mar 06:13

quote:

As for the new voice actors the only one I mind is the ninja. He doesn't sound as cool as the orignal during the "hurt me more" lines.

Yeah that hurt me more part was just too cool in the original. The reason theres a different dude is cuz the original voice actor passed away a couple of years back.

BTW anyone know where I can download just the cutscenes of the game? I don't have a GC and since pretty much everything aside from the cutescenes is the same they are all I want to watch.

Jason
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"Re(4):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Thu 25 Mar 11:00:

quote:

Yeah that hurt me more part was just too cool in the original. The reason theres a different dude is cuz the original voice actor passed away a couple of years back.

Eh? Greg Eagles/George Byrd , who voiced both the DARPA Chief as well as Gray Fox in the original MGS, is back as the voice of the DARPA Chief in MGS:TTS.
BEHOLD!
From what I understand, someone somewhere along the line decided that each part should be played by a different voice actor, and so, Mr. Byrd/Eagles got booted off his second role.
Wait a second . . . Byrd . . . Eagles . . . heh, that's pretty funny.

quote:

BTW anyone know where I can download just the cutscenes of the game? I don't have a GC and since pretty much everything aside from the cutescenes is the same they are all I want to watch.

The 27 minute trailer over here has a many, but not all, of the new cutscenes.

I knew I would do it

and I know this

I know what I am doing now

that I am doing something both beautiful but gruesome because I am destroying its beauty by knowing that it might be beautiful

know that if I know that I am dong something beautiful

that it's no longer beautiful. - Dave Eggers

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[this message was edited by Jason on Thu 25 Mar 11:36]

Gojira

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"slightly OT: Camo Campaign" , posted Thu 25 Mar 15:45

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Konami's been running dog tag contests since MGS2. And I guess I got really, really lucky.

BTW, for MGS3 Konami isn't doing a dog tag contest. Now, it's... camoflauge?

Quoted from IGN:

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The Camo Campaign
In an effort to blow out the Camo aspect of MGS3 Snake-Eater to even larger proportions, Konami will be launching a massive campaign around the idea later this year. Inviting players to use their creativity, ingenuity, and humor, Konami will launch a contest this summer for people to send in their own camo concepts with the idea that the best ones will be made into workable textures and implemented into the game. Kojima showed off the use of a classic Konami corporate image as an example. Snake appeared with his military gear on, and patterned across his body was a silly set of duck face images. Kojima dryly explained that if Snake found ducks in a pond he could hide using this design, and then he showed off another Snake model with the plain text reading "Konami" on it. He added that anyone wearing this pattern would be able to hide within the confines of the Konami offices. (Such a card, that Kojima.)

Konami is using three criteria to judge the contest entrees for The Camo Campaign: 1) Effectiveness; 2) Funny concepts; and 3) Cool ideas. Effective designs will be smartly applicable and useable in the game. Funny concepts are those silly and irrational ideas that make strange or little logical sense in the game, but are whimsical and humorous nonetheless. Cool ideas are those that are stylish in nature, whether they are effective or not. Kojima said he hoped that even corporations would send in their own company-inspired designs.

The entire Camo Campaign is designed to get people involved in Kojima's upcoming game, but also to utilize the newly implemented online aspect, too. As explained last year, MGS3 Snake-Eater will enable players to upload data to the game, such as camo designs. MGS3, however, will not be a playable online game. Konami is working on a separate MGS title that will be playable online.

The campaign will begin this summer, and all major media outlets, including this one right here, are sure to be big parts of it. Get your designs ready now!

Hmmmm... actually I never noticed that "playable online" thing until now.

ROSHIIIIIII!!!

Ishmael

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"Re(5):Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes discussio" , posted Fri 26 Mar 06:25

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The 27 minute trailer over here has a many, but not all, of the new cutscenes.

Thanks for the link but... "Best story of the 20th century?" Whomever is writing the promos at Konami isn't going short on the hyperbole, are they? I'm not sure why Ryuhei Kitamura is the current go-to guy for directing in Japan since everything I've seen from him so far seems to be either hyperactive and/or obviously borrowed from another source. Here's to hoping he doesn't mess up the next Godzilla movie.

I was hoping that this remake of MGS would have something going for it but after reading this thread it sounds like a missed opportunity and that I would probably have a better time replaying my PSX copy. Too bad, really.